0:00 - Introduction
4:02 - Nicotine and Intellectual Stimulation
8:07 - Question on UPB and Surrogate Pregnancy
10:29 - Effects of Parental Divorce on Children
17:51 - Universality and Positive Moral Obligations
28:38 - Reciprocity and Exploitation in Relationships
40:21 - Unbalanced Transactions and Expectations
54:35 - Unveiling the Devouring Mother
1:03:29 - The Antidote to Verbal Abuse
1:10:31 - Insights and Avoiding Radicalism
1:15:53 - The Urge to Strike
1:22:24 - Overcoming Urge with Gratitude
1:33:36 - Accepting the Perfection
1:43:40 - Stop Judging, Start Living
1:51:16 - Respect Every Part

Long Summary

In this thought-provoking episode of Wednesday Night Live in 2024, I lead a compelling discussion on the UK's endeavor to create a smoke-free generation by banning tobacco sales to individuals born after 2008. We critically examine the government's position on nicotine and its health implications, delving into its effects on creativity and intellect. A fascinating comparison with the legalization of marijuana sparks intriguing insights. Our exploration extends to societal perceptions of smoking and cannabis, shedding light on cultural implications, parenting dynamics, and broader ethical considerations.

The conversation evolves organically, navigating intricate moral dilemmas and universal ethical principles. We traverse diverse scenarios, contemplating issues like altruism towards the less fortunate and the nature of moral imperatives. With engaging dialogue and nuanced perspectives, we challenge conventional viewpoints and push the boundaries of ethical discourse, encouraging audiences to reflect on their beliefs and values. As the episode culminates, we address viewer inquiries on wealth distribution and moral responsibilities, fostering a deeper understanding of societal dynamics and individual accountability.

Switching gears, I reflect on a scenario where a young man refrained from escorting his female friend back to her dorm after his romantic advances were rebuffed. I unpack the concept of exploitation in relationships, pondering if reciprocity in gestures defines mutual value or exploitation. By incorporating audience feedback and personal anecdotes, we explore varied viewpoints on the dynamics of relationships, emphasizing the significance of communication, boundaries, and mutual respect in fostering healthy connections.

Transitioning to a discussion on dating dynamics and relationship paradigms, I delve into gender roles, subtle cues in interactions, and the essence of equality in personal connections. By examining the impact of maternal influences on men and delving into behaviors like "simping," I underscore the importance of empathy, understanding, and compassionate communication for navigating emotional complexities. The discourse highlights the profound influence of verbal abuse and advocates for supportive dialogues that foster emotional healing and relational growth.

Delving deep into the realms of compassion, inner strength, and moral clarity, I challenge prevailing societal norms around self-judgment and emotional acceptance. We interrogate the concept of duality and self-categorization, emphasizing the value of embracing emotions without prejudice. As we embark on a journey of self-discovery and introspection, we explore the transformative power of self-acceptance and the liberation found in embracing our authentic selves without reservation or fear.

In a poignant exploration of self-appreciation and gratitude, I underscore the significance of acknowledging one's evolutionary journey and embracing all facets of one's being with kindness and understanding. By rejecting self-judgment and recognizing the evolutionary forces that have shaped our existence, I advocate for a holistic approach to self-compassion and acceptance. This profound discussion illuminates how self-acceptance can pave the way for enhanced relationships and harmonious coexistence within our communities, underscoring the transformative potential of embracing our true selves with humility and gratitude.


[0:00] Introduction

[0:00] Good evening, everybody. Welcome to your Wednesday Night Live. On this year, the 17th, this year of our Lord, 2024, the 17th of April, and we're just going to go straight in, man. No ramble, no intro, no nothing. Well, maybe a little. No, no. The UK has moved to create a smoke-free generation with a bill to make it a defense to sell tobacco to anyone born after 2008. Now it is possible for everyone to prefer prohibiting selling tobacco to those individuals. Even the individual who could prefer it is unlikely to be sure yet possible. Now, do you know why the government is against nicotine? I'm not a fan of smoking. Don't smoke. But do you know why the government is not a fan of nicotine? Because you'd be surprised. This is something I read. Whether it's true or not, you can double check. Don't take anything I say as gospel in the medical field. but I was reading that even if you smoke for like 20 years a pack a day your increased chances of lung cancer are like 15 percent now there's other issues and I get all of that but.

[1:08] It's you know your lifetime chance of getting cancer is like what 30 40 something like that so yeah 50 for lung cancer now that's way up it's 0.5 for lung cancer if you don't smoke so it's a lot a lot higher, 30 times the risk, but not crippling in that way. You'd think it was like 90% or something like that. So, yeah, there's a love of weed and a hostility to nicotine, which I think is quite interesting in a public health, right? They've hated nicotine, but the governments are beginning to really love weed, which I think is quite interesting. So, let's see here. Good evening, good evening.

[1:51] Yeah, so nicotine, it does make you more creative. It sharpens your intellect. It gives you, I assume, some sort of intellect energy and so on. Healthcare costs more for smokers. Well, what are the lifetime costs of smokers? Of course, healthcare costs are probably higher, but pension costs are kind of lower because they die younger, right? Right? So, yeah, nicotine is a stimulant and alcohol and weed are depressants, right? They make you foggy, they make you dissociated, they make you stupid. Nicotine sharpens the intellect, not recommending it, I'm just saying that seems to be the effect. And yet, the legalization of weed, which dumbs you down and makes you passive and, right? So, it makes you bovine, right? Alcohol and weed make you bovine and cigarette smoking makes you sharp.

[2:45] And it's sad but true that a lot of great intellectual work was done powered by nicotine, Ayn Rand and others, right? Even Christopher Hitchens, right? So a lot of really top tier intellectual work is done by people powered by nicotine. Not so much, not so much drugs. So yeah, I just wanted to mention that again, not smoke recommending smoking, but there's a reason why governments are keen on stuff that makes you stupid and not so keen on stuff that makes you sharper. Right. So let's see here.

[3:26] The biggest health research paper, bro. I know it's been experimenting with nicotine for months, toothpicks, lozenges, just patches, et cetera. Interesting. Interesting.

[3:40] Lord Stephen of House Molyneux, speaker of truth and bestower of wisdom, lay down the knowledge for us. Well, it's a, uh, it's a, uh, uh, I tried cigarettes for a little while. I mean, I certainly did notice the acute mental clarity and increased creativity. So, but, you know, it wasn't really worth the risk for me in the long run.

[4:02] Nicotine and Intellectual Stimulation

[4:02] Uh, at the Apollo program, tons of the engineers smoked. Yeah. I mean, it is a brain stimulant and anything which sharpens the mind seems to be not great for the powers that be, anything that makes you stupid and defensive, right? So I'm against banning, but when the Canadian government legalized weed, it became much more rampant and part of the culture here. It's sad. Well, I've never smoked drugs, weed. I've never smoked a bowl. I didn't even know what that means. It's something to do with cornflakes, but I've never done mushrooms. I've never done hash. I've never tried any of that stuff. And so, but you know, the only, the only, what kept me from, from ever trying weed was, you know, a basic cost benefit calculation. If I like it a lot, I've got a big problem because I'm going to want to do it again. If I don't like it that much, what's the point? And if I hate it, then I'm just signing up for a negative experience. It's not that complicated to figure out whether to do these things or not. But the biggest turnoff for smoking weed was the weed smokers. Hey, man.

[5:07] You know, it's like, I really, really dislike it when people take on a prefabricated personality. You know, hey, man, like I'm a weed smoker. I got to talk like this. I got to have that hair. I got to have that, you know, I got to have the raster locks. I got like, I just got to be this. It's this whole thing that's just okay. I think it's stupid to smoke weed, But when it becomes part of a whole culture that replaces your personality, I remember once many years ago being at a party and there was a guy there who had taken on Paul Schaeffer's entire personality, spoke that way, he gestured that way. He'd just been possessed by Paul Schaeffer, who was the band leader for David Letterman, of course, and was a keyboardist for the Honeydrippers or something like that. Anyway, he's a keyboardist and bandleader and so on. Dave, you know, he had this, you know, kind of particular way and style of speaking. And he was pretty funny. It's in the Stu Stu Studio, Dave. So he was talking about Su Su Studio. Su Studio by Phil Collins. He recorded it in the Stu Stu Studio. It was pretty funny. It's pretty funny. But when people get inhabited by other people's personalities, it's, to me, it's almost like a demonic possession. session. And I just really, really disliked the people who do weed. I just really, really dislike the people who do weed.

[6:36] And the weed is, uh, the weed is, I still come for caffeine. Okay. That, yeah, you, you could be right.

[6:49] But the problem with the weed is it sets you against any kind of rational honesty that you're having, right? Because you can't just say, yeah, I'm a drug addict, right? Yeah. I'm a, I'm a, I'm a drug addict. It's always got to be like I'm exploring the outreaches of the Matrix, man, and I'm doing this, and it's opening my third eye, and my chakra is spreading like Stormy Daniels. And it's like, it can't just be, yeah, I'm addicted to weed as a painkiller for emotional trauma. So, yeah, it's the lying. It's the lying, the constant lying of the weed heads that bothers me. And the constant emotional manipulation. A weed has a certain dysfunctional feminine quality to me that I just find, maybe it's my old Anglo-Saxon common sense, but there's a certain amount of just dysfunctional female manipulation in the weed world. They've got to lie and make things up and counterattack and they can't admit when they're wrong. They've always got to be right and they've got to insult everyone who questions them. It's all just so girly. How do you live like that? How do you live like that? Blech.

[8:07] Question on UPB and Surrogate Pregnancy

[8:08] UPB's question and comment section. Yes, I saw that. So your question is regardless of the sexual orientation of the couple with regards to a woman who carries a surrogate baby for another couple. It's not a violation of UPB. No particular force is involved. However, if the baby she gives up to the couple to raise, if the baby ends up being abused, then the baby would be able to sue the mother, right? So you'd want to make sure that that was the protection, right? All right. Tobacco smells amazing until it's being smoked. I love the smell of tobacco, but I don't smoke. Oh, you mean just smelling the tobacco itself? Yeah. I enjoy my chewing tobacco. Tobacco. Tobacco. That's what I was going to say. Tobacco. Ah, let's see here.

[9:05] Does that mean prohibiting the sale of tobacco to anyone born after 2008 is UPB?

[9:13] You! You! Universal! What's the magical difference between 2008 and 2007? Right, son? You is universal, right? I don't smoke, drink alcohol, or do drugs. Well, unless you include sugar. That I did have a problem with, but I have enough mental health issues already. Well, I'm glad that you don't do those things. Ah, it is the female plants that are smoked the strongest weed is grown in the absence of male plants. Is that right? I didn't know that. It harms the child by unintentionally depriving him of a mother. Okay, so but the universal stuff would be then if the child, let's say it's a gay couple, the child is deprived of a mother, well, then all children who are deprived of a mother would have the right to sue, right? If it's by choice. So, it would be interesting in a free society, in a free society, i could certainly see the case where children of divorced parents might be able to sue their parents if the parents divorced based on not some massive issue right but if the woman the mother was just kind of dissatisfied and wanted to grass is greener on the other side of the fence and she blew up her children's childhoods and destroyed the family that would that does produce objective Objective harm to children.

[10:29] Effects of Parental Divorce on Children

[10:30] So it'd be interesting to see if your children, when they grew up, could sue you for breaking up the family. Because it does objective harm to children.

[10:41] Drugs rewire your dopamine receptor. So I stay away from drugs. And extreme external stimuli. All right, I'll try not to scream.

[10:50] I was once invited to celebrate 420 with some friends. I'm sure everybody knows this 420, 420 PM is supposed to be the right time to smoke weed. And that tells you exactly what their work ethic is like that. I joined them, but I did not partake the smart, intelligent people that I knew disappeared and were replaced by idiots. Yeah. Yeah. A guy I used to hang out with would, would talk about when he was younger, he would do drugs, but he wouldn't, they wouldn't really affect him, but he'd pretend that they really affected him. Oh, I can't find my feet, you know. He's so funny, man.

[11:27] A while ago, I met a girl online who I found out liked weed. When I mentioned I found it yucky, she was enraged, and it was like I attacked her religion. Right, right. So the parents who abuse children sit in the children's heads and say, do drugs. Take drugs. Smoke weed. Take painkillers. Take opioids. Drink. Be promiscuous, right? You know why, right? Why do the abusive demon parents in the head continually order the children to drug and dissociate themselves? I'm sure we all know. So I've rarely, like certainly when you're talking to an addict, you're just talking to his parents, right? So the parents want to keep the child drugged so that the child can't accuse the parents and wake up to the abuse. Yeah, she suffered if he was abused, right?

[12:25] So...

[12:30] I really, you, you really talk to the people themselves in the world, right? You're mostly talking to their alter egos, to their possessors, their inhabiters, their alters. You're not usually talking to the actual person, right? So, I mean, uh, drugging dissidents in a totalitarian system. It's common. It's almost endemic to totalitarian systems to drug people, right? I mean, this happened with Ayahuasca. ago this happened assassins right were powered by hashish and i think that's one of the ways that the name is derived so they they were drugged of course uh you look at the wehrmacht and the way that it rolled across in the in the lightning war the ritz creek war in the summer of 1940 in france they were all fueled by amphetamines and and drugs and drugging dissidents is uh absolutely Absolutely de rigueur. It's completely natural for, and of course in communism, since communism was perfect, if you had any problems with communism, clearly you had a mental illness, so you needed to be institutionalized and have horse tranquilizers stuffed up your nose.

[13:46] The drug use in Vietnam was rampant so yeah when you're making people do absolutely terrible things and subjecting them to endless trauma, you drug them well enough about public school my kids got ADD all different dads is that what you mean.

[14:09] Alright All right. So, happy to take questions and comments? Certainly, I have the topics. We have the topics. We have the topics. Do I have the topics? Why do I have to log in again? I wonder if... I wonder... I wonder if...

[14:42] I wonder if you. Oh, there we go. Oh, I just did it. I just was able to log in. I know that sounds like I'm supposed to be so proud of all of this. Yet nonetheless. Yet nonetheless.

[15:00] Ah, have you, have you heard of this? Somebody posted this on, on X. It said, uh, one, how long do you end up sick? Roughly 50% of the year when you have your first kid, does it ever stop? Opposite just the entire time they're in school two does it get better with the second kid like do you ever end up immune to everything again or you just all sick forever all just sick forever that was kind of interesting, so did you have that uh the case i mean i love having kids over uh but i i have to be fairly strict about whether the kids are sick or not i love having kids over i love a house full of of people i love a house full of kids but not at the point where i get sick so uh especially i don't particularly mind getting a cold and it's the stuffiness or whatever it's the sore throat that drives me crazy i can't stand the sore throat especially because you know i kind of talk for a living and i need this sort of vocal flexibility to be able to express myself and hopefully keep interest engaged and so on but did you have that when you were when you were a kid oh no i guess when you were an adult, if you have kids, right? Do you have that where they're just sick all the time? Obviously, I think it's better if you're not in government schools or public schools as a whole. I didn't find that too bad as a whole when Izzy was out and about and roaming around. Roaming in the Glowman, I didn't really find it too bad. But, let's see here.

[16:26] Let's see here. Sue your mother when you turn 18 is insufficient. Do you not think that the parents would change their behavior knowing that the lawsuit could happen? I'm not sure. I don't think you understand how incentives work. Sorry to be rude, but I do not think. All right. Please help me think this through. UPB refers to actions that everyone can prefer simultaneously. It is possible for everyone to prefer prohibiting selling tobacco to people born prior to 2008. Even the individuals could prefer it. It's unlikely to be sure yet possible. Please help me apply the UPB filter here. I feel I should be able to, but I'm failing. But UPB wouldn't change prior to 2008 and post-2008. That's number one. Number two, it is possible for everyone to prefer prohibiting selling tobacco to people born prior to 2008. No. No, it doesn't pass the coma test. So can somebody in a coma do that? Can you do that while you're sleeping or napping? So no, it is not possible.

[17:40] Positive, right? So prohibitions are possible, right? So I can be asleep and I'm not violating anybody's persons or property, right? I can be in a coma and I'm not violating anyone's persons or property.

[17:51] Universality and Positive Moral Obligations

[17:51] Positive moral commandments, not thou shalt not, which is achievable by a guy in a coma but thou shalt can't be universally achieved because you can't achieve that all the time everyone no matter what even if they're in a coma right so people in a coma are still human people sleeping are still human it's not like if you murder someone in their sleep that suddenly you're not a murderer right it's of course you are right they're a full human being full rights so positive moral um affirmations can't be achieved universally and of course the other thing too is that if everybody wanted to no longer buy or sell cigarettes, you wouldn't need any law, right? You wouldn't need any law.

[18:31] Yeah, universality can't be positive. It can't be a positive moral obligation. It's moral to give to the poor, really. So what about the person on the receiving end? Does he give to the poor as well? Because one person has to give, the other person has to receive, so it can't be universalized. Can a guy in a coma give to the poor? No. So if If giving to the poor is good, the opposite of giving to the poor, which is not giving to the poor, is evil. And therefore, the guy in a coma is evil. And if a guy in a coma or a guy taking a nap is evil, something's wrong with you. Like, that's just a common sense. I'm not saying that you have a problem with it. This is an old thing I have from Aristotle. That if your moral system can be used to prove that rape is good, well...

[19:13] Then there's something wrong. Debt is good, then there's something wrong with your moral system. And if your moral system says that a guy in a coma is evil, or a guy taking a nap is evil, or a guy twiddling his thumbs is evil, then, right? So yeah, you can achieve the preference universally.

[19:35] You can achieve the preference universally. And the other thing too is that, okay, so let's say everyone quits, everyone approves of of stopping to buy and sell cigarettes which wouldn't happen of course but let's say people did okay so then it stops happening so then cigarettes are out of the way but then they have to eternally do that right they have to eternally do that because in the future people just start buying and selling cigarettes again so it has to be a permanent thing even when it's not being enacted you've got other things to think about other things to do so it can't be universalized but you can you can universalize not assaulting people every like your guy in a Make home is not assaulting people. So you can have thou shalt not in UPB. You can't have thou shalt because it can't be. A thou shalt, a moral order can't be universalized, right? A guy in his deathbed can't universalize it, right? So, and of course, if you have more than one, right? Let's say everybody should not buy cigarettes and weed. Okay, well, you can't universalize that in that everyone can want that all at the same time because these are two different things that you would want, right? So it's just you can't universalize it. Therefore, it can't be subject to UPP. I hope that helps. And thank you for the question. Very good, very good, very good, very good. All right. Oh, yes, it's over here. Ba-bum, ba-bum, ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-bum.

[20:59] So, one guy has $2 to his name. The other guy only has 50 cents. Should he, with $2, give 75% to the other guy? Or the other guy should give 25 cents to the other guy who should give 12 and a half cents and write seven, three quarters cents, whatever it is, right? All right.

[21:15] Am I the a-hole? Am I the a-hole? It's a question I ask myself on a repetitive basis. It's a question I ask myself on a repetitive basis. It's important to ask, right? I am a 21-year-old male. It's been a while since I've been able to say that and be honest. I'm a 21-year-old male. I've been friends with Annie. She's a 21-year-old female for three years now, since the start of college. We usually chillax at one of our friends' places every Saturday night with our friend group. After we're done, I walk her to her dorm first before heading back to my dorm. This has been the default and I never really thought too much of it. Anyway, a month ago I asked her out, but she just wanted to remain friends. Did not bother me too much, but I obviously wanted to cut back on our friendship a bit. We were still amicable and part of the same friend group and still joked around with each other. However, I've stopped walking her back to her dorm and just walked back to my dorm. The first couple of weeks, she did walk back on her own to her dorm. However, last week, she asked me, could I walk her back? Because she was extremely scared walking alone at midnight, especially when she was drunk. I told her to just get an Uber or ask someone else because I was getting too tired to walk her home to her place and then walk back to my place. The conversation was sort of awkward, and we left it at that.

[22:43] And of course the feminist, says so in other words as usual he was never her friend he was just another guy who believes all relationships with women are transactional with sex being the only valuable currency women have, right if you loved me if you really cared about me as a friend if you liked me or cared about me as a friend you'd you wouldn't stop walking me home just because I didn't want to date you man, oh it's so sad it's so sad well tell me what you guys think what do you guys think what do you think, um was it the same woman or another woman let's see here another woman says this is why we prefer to remain single because men treat us like vending machines that if they put enough coins of being nice into, the romance and sex will come out? Isn't that funny? Should have made his intentions clear much earlier. Dude waited too long to make a move. That's not the question, though. He's through the asshole for not wanting to walk her home after she doesn't want to date him.

[24:00] She wanted the benefits of a boyfriend without reciprocating appropriately, in my opinion. Right.

[24:10] So, I think she shouldn't be getting drunk every Saturday night. She should also arrange ahead of time for an escort. Well, if it's Uber, it's a long walk, right? I mean, if it's Uber-worthy, it's a long walk. He's not an a-hole. Oh, okay. But why? But why? why. Now, listen, you understand from the female perspective, from the female perspective, it's like, okay, so you're willing to walk me home as long as you thought I might sleep with you. But now I'm not willing to sleep with you. You don't want to walk me home. So you weren't actually caring about me. You were only caring about access to sex. There's a city in Saskatchewan called Regina. And they came up with a market. They had a contest to come up with a marketing slogan, and I think what was voted the top one was, Regina rhymes with fun. Which was funny. Why do women have a monopoly on sex? Well, they don't. They don't. Seeing these covered on them tube. Well, just because I don't want to be romantic, you should not stop giving me attention. Well, you understand though, there's a transaction. The man is willing to walk the woman home until he finds out she's not going to have sex with him. I'm just making the case from the feminist perspective. Oh, so basically you don't care about me. You only are nice to me for access to sex.

[25:34] Women don't understand or care how difficult it is for men to get sex. It's not true. What are you talking about? It's difficult for men to get sex? No. It's difficult for a lot of men to get sex, but not for the top 10%. The top 10% can pretty much get all the sex they want. Especially now in the age of dating, right? The top 10% of men can basically get all the rock stars, right? They can get all the sex they want. But it's easy for men to get sex if they're very attractive. I mean, you remember that many years ago, there was a woman who walked through New York and got catcalled and all of that, and they sent a male model walking through New York, and he got catcalled, and all the women wanted his number, right? That's just manipulation, though, to demand protection. Just making statements, though, but you understand the case, right? It's important to understand the case that you're rebutting, right? If the only thing, if the only reason you won't walk me home is because I won't have sex with you, then clearly walking me home was a down payment on sex. And if I don't give you sex, you won't walk me home. Does that make sense? And how do you answer that? I think it's an interesting objection. How do you answer that?

[27:00] Beats Winnipeg from The Simpsons. We were born here. What's your excuse? Yeah, I did business in Winnipeg shortly before getting married. It was not my favorite place in the world. At all.

[27:20] Is she going to do his laundry next week for walking her home? Joe? Brilliant. Oh, gold star for Jojo. the gold star for JoJo. So, you can flip this transaction, right? This would be male confidence, right? You can flip this transaction. Just joined. Keep the good work, Steph. Much appreciated. Thank you, Ken. Thank you. Any thoughts on increasing mindfulness to control impulses? Yes. Nipple tasers and testicle cattle prods or Or a fun Saturday night. So you flip it, right? So you say, so...

[28:10] Instead of saying, well, the man is no longer providing the woman the service of walking her to her dorm, if she's not going to have sex with him, you can say, so the woman dangled sex to get the man to walk home with him. Now, the woman would say, well, no, no, no, no, he was just being a nice guy, right? He was just being a nice guy. So, let me ask you this, and you can take your time. I'll be patient with this one as you type.

[28:38] Reciprocity and Exploitation in Relationships

[28:39] What is a big exploitation that you received where you you poured heart and soul into something, and got back not reciprocity but maybe even liabilities like you poured heart and soul into something and it all just went tits up in flames like have you ever i'm sure everybody's had that to one degree or another like i've mentioned this before i poured a huge amount amount of money into helping a woman make a short film and then did all of that and then asked her to read through one of my novels and give me some feedback and she just never never quite got around to it right according to robert glover walking her home was a covert contract a nice guy strategy if you're walking her home with an expectation something is wrong all right all right.

[29:32] So what happened? What happened? I've been financially generous and have been completely pillaged from time to time. I mean, it's been a lot of years because I sort of learned better over time. But yeah, what has happened to you, right? That has been really exploitive. I was used by my family of origin extremely hard. Massive time and money commitment, years gone with the wind. Oh, so John, you know this one. This is why you're able to pick up on, and plus you're obviously raw brilliance and abs. Somebody says, I tried to build a tiny home on my parents' property. They acted like it was all good. They made it obvious they didn't want me there. I ended up wasting $40,000. Oh, then they made it obvious they didn't want me there. I was always helping my, quote, friends with things, but when I needed help, they just didn't have time. Friends borrowing money and not paying it back. Yep, as Claudius, no, as Polonius says, neither a borrower nor a lender be, because basically you'll lose both the friend and the money in the loan often, time.

[30:40] Yeah, I remember when a relative was getting, was going to be a dad, and I went over to his place for a whole long weekend and cleaned his place top to bottom, because that's kind of the impulse, right? When you've got a baby coming in, we pulled out his fridge, pulled out his stove, just cleaned everything top to bottom. And then after I did that for a whole long weekend, I needed some help moving stuff. I'm just too busy, man. I'm just, you know, it's like, oh, God. It's, you know, there's a hierarchy, right? Some people think that reciprocity lowers them to merely being equals or something like that. Yeah, it's rough, man. Let me just check on our various places where we get these comments.

[31:26] Welcome to everybody on Rumble. So, there's been a bunch of those things where you're just nice to other people, and then you wait for reciprocity, and it doesn't come back. It doesn't come back. They're just too busy. And that means that they're exploiters, right? They're exploiters. You know, I mean, when I was in the business world, salespeople would come to me. They had this strategy of they would wait until the very last minute to request that you write the technical portion of an RFP. RFP is request for proposal, so they'd be proposing selling $200,000 worth of software to some company, and they would wait until the day of, right? They'd wait until the day of, even if they had it two weeks before, not all of them and not all the time, but often. And they would wait until the day off to give me the RFP that I had to respond to. And it would be really complicated, really technical. And they would want me to put a quote together. I'm, you know, tying into this DOS database. And then I'm tying into this other system, this like SAP system, like just tying into all of this kind of stuff.

[32:45] And i'd have no time to evaluate talk to their tech people i might need to go on site you know you need a week or two to do these kinds of things properly and they'd be like well the rp's got to be in by five o'clock man you know i it took me a while to get they just make up some nonsense and then i'd say well i can't do it in that time and then they'd call the ceo the ceo would sit me down and say it's got to happen because we need to make payroll and right so and but whenever i would ask the salespeople to help me out with something. Oh, you know, man, I'm, I'm just, I'm real busy with this RFP. I've got to go on this business trip. I, you know, it's like, come on, man, you're on a plane. Don't tell me you don't have time on a business trip. You're literally stuck on a plane. And back then, of course, there was no wifi on the planes.

[33:28] What do you mean you can't change the program on a Friday afternoon with an empty stomach? Yeah. Or somebody says, I've been very generous with my thoughts and ideas at work with no acknowledgement of me mentioning them many times. Yeah. So you'll get kind of pillaged that way. So the question to me is not with regards to this guy who doesn't want to walk the girl home. Home. So the question to me is not, well, he only cares about dating her or having sex with her. And that's why he's walking her home. It's like, well, he's doing something special for her. What's she doing back, right? This is why when Joe said, well, is she going to do his laundry or is she going to pay him back in some way? So if, if it's an Uber worthy journey, I assume it's a half hour walk there and half hour walk back. Right. I mean, I guess you could Uber back, but then it's time and money, right? So he doesn't want to walk the hour. And she doesn't want to walk home in the middle of the night drunk out of her gourd, right? So the question, so she's asking him to go above and beyond. She's asking him for an hour of free labor, which could be dangerous too if you get into trouble, right? So she's asking him for an hour of free labor in the middle of the night. Okay.

[34:46] So what's she offering in return, right? What's she offering in return?

[35:02] That's the important part. So if she knows he likes her and women do, women always know whether you like them or not. We think we're so subtle and we hide it so well. Women always know whether you like them or not. Now, if she knows he likes her and she can get him to walk her home, but she doesn't have to reciprocate, then she's dangling sacks for free labor. Yeah, if he walks her home on Saturday, does she maybe cook a hot meal, a dinner for him on Monday? Yes, absolutely. Absolutely. Takes about 20 minutes to walk a mile one way.

[35:40] What? What are you talking about? No, it doesn't. It's crazy. Maybe you've never tried to walk a drunk woman, but drunk women are not the speediest of walkers known to man. It's probably double that.

[35:54] Right. So this is the question. So she says, do me a solid favor and do me an hour of labor that I don't want to do. Because it's not like she's going to be great company and a witty conversationalist when he's walking her home when she's drunk right i remember back in high school you had to be aware of the girl who only wanted to use you for your car yes of course do you not think that men are aware that sometimes women will exploit them for their resources of course, of course do stuff for me because i'm attractive right so the question is not oh he only likes her for the possibility of dating her, right? The question is, is she giving him anything back for asking him for this boring, cold, dangerous, already tired labor of spending an hour plus getting her to a dormant back, right? Now, we know for an absolute fact that she was exploiting him. We know for an absolute fact or proof beyond a reasonable doubt, let's say. How do we know that the woman who had the guy walk her home, how do we know for an absolute fact that she's exploiting him?

[37:17] She knows he likes her and she demands free labor or asks for free labor. And right, somebody says, I had a similar situation happen where I bought this girl dinner twice and when I went to make a move, she acted like it was totally unexpected. She's had a male friend spy her dinner all the time, so she just thought I wanted to be friends. She offered nothing in return because she is mad. She said it. No. How do we know? How do we know for an absolute fact that she exploited him by dangling dating opportunities, trying to shame him? Nope. No, she didn't say it. How do we know for a fact That she exploited him by getting him to do things for her based upon the possibility of dating.

[38:11] Happened repeatedly? No. We know this for a fact because if she had provided other value for him, right? So if she said, listen, you walk me home and I'll drop you a hot meal by on Monday, right? You walk me home and next time I'm at your place, I'll clean and do the dishes. You walk me home and, you know, I'll, I'll buy you, I'll take you to a movie, right? No force deception was involved. She did not exploit him. You can exploit people without force. Yeah, you can exploit people without force. That's called fraud, right? Do you not, you know this, right? Fraud doesn't involve a gun usually, right? Right. Um, so we know for a fact that she was exploiting him because the moment that she was not romantically available to him, she wasn't providing him any other value. Therefore, the only value she was dangling for him was romantic availability. And when he made his move and she said, no, she wasn't saying, Hey man, you know, uh, I'll, I'll run three errands for you. If you walk me home.

[39:34] So you can say, well, you know, but he was just being transactional. He was only offering, he was only walking her home on the hopes that she'd like him enough to date him. Sure. But you don't look at the female side where she was getting free labor because she knew the guy liked her. I'm uncomfortable with his absence of agency in this. What do you mean? What are you talking about? When have I said he doesn't have agency?

[40:05] What do you mean? I didn't say. You can be exploited and still have agency. And he did have agency. He was nice to the girl because he wanted, I mean, obviously he cared about her as a friend, but he also wanted to date her and she wasn't providing anything reciprocal.

[40:21] Unbalanced Transactions and Expectations

[40:21] He could call her on it. Well, this is good deal. The scale was off. Bad deal for him. Right. So, let me put it another way. Right? So let me put it another way. Let's say she was to say to him, you walk me home and I'll give you 40 bucks. Right, it's 20 bucks for there and 20 bucks back. You walk me home, I'll give you 40 bucks. Well, he may want to do that, right? Now, if he then asks her out, she doesn't want to go out with him, but he still wants the 40 bucks, he'll walk her home. Does that make sense?

[41:02] But she wasn't giving him the 40 bucks. she wasn't doing any of his laundry she wasn't doing his dishes she wasn't cooking him a meal or whatever else she could do that might be helpful right she might say hey man next time you need a bunch of books from the library give me the list I'll go get them for you and I'll drop them off could be any number of things right, I will absolutely proofread one of your essays for you whatever it is right, you could say hey this is not reciprocal what do you want my free labor I'm interested in dating you, but why.

[41:37] Why would he say that? Like, he already said he wants to date her, and she's already said to him, you're a beta slave, so to speak, right? Like, I'll use you for free labor, but I'm never going to date you. Right? No, it's not a predator. It's a minor exploitation. It's a minor exploitation. But it's important. Let me give you some cash for a nice meal or something along those lines. Something, anything, anything. So she's not providing him any reciprocal value for him walking her home. So then when she doesn't want to date him, then there is no reciprocal value whatsoever. So why would he do it? Okay, then he should have bailed or at least talked about it with her. Yeah, I mean, I remember many, obviously, it's all many years ago when I was single, but I remember going out with a girl.

[42:47] And, you know, was it a date? She had some long-distance thing that I never quite understood, but I never made a move for a variety of reasons. I never made a move, and after a while, I stopped paying. right? Because we're just like, if you want me to treat you as a non-romantic object, right? Or if I am going to treat you as a non-romantic object, then I'm going to need reciprocity, right? If you want me to treat you as a bro, I'm going to treat you as a bro. Does this make sense? So if you want to.

[43:34] How did you go about girls asking you out? I mean, that rarely happened, but women would make it very clear that they wanted me to ask them out through a variety of mechanisms. So I was very, very rarely rejected. And not because I'm some super stud muffin, but just because I knew how to read the signs. So she's saying, I want you to treat me as just a friend. That's totally fine. Because a man will display extra niceness and extra consideration and extra thoughtfulness because a man attracts a woman by displaying an excess, an excess of money, right? If the man only has enough to pay for his own bills, it's going to be pretty tough for him to interest a woman of childbearing age, right?

[44:20] What's your opinion on why a guy would not accept a woman's advances? It's something I struggled with in my youth. It's kind of masculine for a woman to pursue a man that way. And a couple of times it happened with me and I always found it very off-putting because it seemed just kind of desperate and weird to me. Yes. Oh, somebody talked about somewhere. Is that coming in through? Where is that coming in through? I do not know. The voice. The voice. All right. So yeah that is so the woman is saying I want you to treat me, as a non-datable object right which is totally fine totally fine obviously women have their preferences they like their who don't so I want you to treat me with no special consideration, Because a man treats a woman with special consideration, puts his best foot forward, just as a woman on a date puts on the makeup, does her hair, gets ready, puts on her best foot, you know, maybe doesn't eat all day, so she looks a little slimmer. Like, of course, right, women, put the filter, you put your best foot forward.

[45:49] You put your best foot forward, of course you do. So the man puts his best foot forward and then she says i want you to treat me, as if i was just another guy right so if a guy like it's i'm putting myself in this guy's shoes i find this stuff fascinating let me know if you get hit me with a y if you find this interesting and i'll sort of add that up and see uh if but i find this stuff really fascinating so So...

[46:21] Treat me just as another guy. Okay. So if I'm going to treat you as just another guy, then if a guy wants me to walk him home and I don't want to walk him home, I'm going to say no. Right? Of course. Because you want me to treat you like just another guy. Okay. Then I'm going to treat you as just another guy. And if a guy says, hey man, I'm so drunk. You got to walk me home. I'm like, no, it's like midnight. night. I don't want to, I want to spend an hour walking you home. Get an Uber. It's like, if you want me to treat you as a guy, as a non-romantic object, then I'm going to treat you in a transactional way. Now I was treating you in a transactional way before I was showing an excess of resources, excess of niceness, consideration, thoughtfulness, all that kind of stuff in return for a possible dating. And if you don't want to date, totally fine. Then I'm going to treat you as I would treat a male friend, right? That's what they call what? What do they call that? What's that? What's that word? Ah, it's just on the tip of my tongue. What is that word?

[47:38] Equality yes that's it equality you want to be treated as an equal you don't want to be elevated as a romantic object totally fine you want to be treated as an equal okay that's totally fine then i'm going to treat you as an equal which means it has to be reciprocal and if you're not providing reciprocity, I'm not going to be providing resources, because then I'm just being exploited.

[48:11] So that's foundational. I don't know why this is hard to understand, other than it's kind of nice to shame guys into being into, like, she wants to save money on Uber, right? She wants to save money on Uber. I get that. Uber would be like 40 bucks or whatever. She wants to save money on Uber, and she wants to shift the cost to this guy. I get it. You want to save money on Uber. I understand. So you want to save money and this guy do the free work. Sure. But that's not equality. That's the result of potential dating. And she's saying, I'm not a potential dating object. Therefore, I want equality. I want you to treat me as just an equal. Okay. So she hasn't been providing him resources. other than the possibility of dating. So he's going to treat her as an equal, which is if some guy or some woman I didn't know asked me to walk her home and I'm tired and I want to go to bed and you're drunk, which makes it kind of an unpleasant walk, right? I mean, listen, walking alone at night with some drunk woman through a neighborhood where there could be some dangerous guys is not fun because the guys are going to be drawn like predators, like sharks and blood in the water, drunk woman and so on. And she might say something stupid or whatever it is, right?

[49:34] So it's uh it's strange so that's sort of one thing that's the one thing now the other thing i think that's interesting about this is maybe just maybe just maybe the problem is not that the guy won't walk her home in the middle of the night when she's drunk maybe just maybe just maybe Maybe she shouldn't be getting drunk far away from home in the middle of the night or at any time. Like nobody's sitting there saying, well, why is she drunk? Why is she staying there till midnight being drunk and then being terrified to walk home? Right? She's asking what's in it for me. He should do the same. Everybody, everyone should. Yes, but we all know, we all know that if you like a girl, you're extra nice to her. Everybody knows that. Of course. You have to show the capacity for excess niceness because if you're just a selfish son of a bitch, basically, then she can't trust you, right? So you have to show excess niceness because, you know, you have to be considerate and thoughtful when she's on her period or when she's pregnant or when she's breastfeeding or when she has an episiotomy or when she's, you know, recovering from X, Y, or Z or when she's ill or when she's injured and can't cook for you. You have to show an excess of niceness, so that you have some buffer and lubrication, so to speak, for dating. So you have to show excess niceness.

[51:02] To women. If you want to say to men, you shouldn't be extra nice to women, then you have to say to women, you can't dye your hair, get a hairstyle, use hairspray or makeup. And you can't get tooth whitening and you can't get lipo. You can't get BBLs. Like you can't show any excess that's not natural of your physical attributes. You can't use lipstick. You can't use blush. You can't use You can't use mascara, you can't use hair dye, you can't use styler, you can't use anything. All these guys hanging around. B have the chance to be a girl's backup plan is pathetic. Oh, bro, you're harsh, man. You're harsh. Pathetic. It's so British. It's so British.

[52:01] I mean, do you know where sims come from, right? Do you know where sims come from? Where do sims come from? Come on. Have a heart, man. Have some compassion. Help bring guys up rather than rain super shit down on them from your high verbal perch of abuse. They're pathetic. Do you have a bro code at all? Do you want to help your fellow man? Or do you just want to feel superior by calling other guys pathetic? How's it going to go for your culture if men can't support each other? Come on, man. You've listened to all the call-in shows. Do you ever hear me call someone pathetic? If we can't help each other as men, if we can't support each other as men, we're doomed, right? We support each other, or we're going to get drafted. You understand, right? You can get that little fucking dopamine hit of I'm calling some guy pathetic and I'm so superior and I'm so blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, right?

[53:11] We can't support each other as men and find ways to raise each other up. We're pathetic, right? I mean, they're not simps, they're wounded. I mean, I just did a show about this today.

[53:34] Where do the simps come from? Do you guys know what the devouring mother is? Do you know what that is? We call names as an echo of the names we were called by our parents. Yeah, but we're not retarded here, so we should stop doing that because we didn't like it when our parents did it to us, so why would we think it's acceptable when we do it to others? Quiet desperation is the English way. What does that actually mean? That's from Dark Side of the Moon. Hanging on in quiet desperation is the English way. But it comes from a line from Most men live lives of quiet desperation. Vagina dentata, Medusa Kali Yuga. It's mother-mother, yeah.

[54:35] Unveiling the Devouring Mother

[54:35] Yeah, she needs to be served endlessly to the complete erasure of the sun. The child is there as a vanity ornament for the pride of the mother, sims come from guys not confronting their mother real time relationships should be required reading well, why do they need to confront their mother.

[55:00] Why do they need to confront their mother? All right. The devouring mother is the one who does not think about your needs and preferences, particularly at her own expense, but in any conflict between your needs and her needs, she chooses her needs and punishes, shames, attacks, abandons, ignores, neglects, and humiliates you for daring to cross her needs. Daring to disagree with her needs, daring to have your own opinion that makes her feel uncomfortable. You know, when I was a kid, If your TV would sometimes roll, and sometimes if you hit it, it would settle the tubes and be better, right? So if you're a broken TV, bam, bam, bam, you hit it, right? You thump it to make it better. And this is like, oh, my child is broken. They're not doing what I want. They're not doing what serves me. Bam, bam, bam. I'm going to shame, attack, humiliate, bully, neglect, abuse, embarrass, right? If the kid doesn't do what I want and I need, clearly the kid is broken and needs to be aggressively adjusted until the kid damn well does what I want.

[56:07] Percussive maintenance, yeah. So hit me with a why if this was some element of your mother when you were growing up. Hit me with a why why if you grew up without a father too. Two, yes, I'll give you the double Y. Hey, extra Ys, that's philosophy, YY. YY, YY, right? So if you, one Y for this is like your mom, two Ys if you also grew up without a dad. Right, yeah, so we have, right?

[56:45] He has oppositional defiant disorder. Yeah, he's ODD. He needs to be drugged. He's disobeying with mommy. He's bad. And this, of course, is the teacher too, female teachers. The male teachers I had welcomed disagreement. The female teachers got offended if we disagreed, right? That's why males, particularly white males, are really the only reliable demographic when it comes to free speech. Being around my mother was like walking on eggshells, right? Right.

[57:13] You know eggshells you know why that's so perfect, eggshells her eggs the egg carrier, was hell being around the egg the mother was hell, eggshells also the eggs the mother is like a shell like a world war one shell right drug beaten and blamed for it sorry to hear that brother, sorry to hear that oh yeah i was like this woman who's in charge of npr now she's the new she used to be the head of a very high up at wikipedia she's like i mean i accept that there is truth but like it's like our own truth and maybe we should just stop focusing so much on the truth so that we can you know get things done because for women the fields are the reels right for a lot of women right for a lot of women the fields are the reels what is true is only their feelings reality is like a distant fog through the northern lights of their own feelings, right? That's why they can say there can be multiple truths because multiple people can experience very vivid emotions about the same thing. And for emotion, for women, a lot of women, the feels are the reals, right? Emotion is truth.

[58:27] Objective truth doesn't particularly matter. What matters is your emotional experience, right? It's like that definition of falseness is when you're moved by something and then you're moved by the fact that you moved in it that's when the false note comes in right, My dad functionally wasn't there, basically, except to beat the shit out of me when he was going through the alcohol withdrawal before the work week. Sorry about that. Sorry about that, my friend. Not sure having a physically-slash-verbally abusive dad and verbally-slash-psychologically abusive adopted parents are better than a single parent. Probably not.

[59:07] How is a woman and her family supposed to accept a man if he does not talk with his mother or his family of origin? Well, because you have standards. I mean i got married right do you think that a woman is going to prefer an evil mother-in-law that has control over her family run from that man, my mother would turn into the sweetest little thing when she got drunk oh yeah the syrupy sentimentality of the drunks is famous and and repulsive right Where did the simps come from? So simping is when you attempt to woo a woman by having no need to yourself and focusing exclusively on her preferences. I mean, I'm sure you've seen this post on social media. It was some Indian, some tall, skinny-legged Indian guy with some woman at some horse farm, and the woman was like, Like, oh, thank you for being such an amazing look. We did brunch out. I went horseback riding, jet skiing. You've really shown me such a wonderful time and raised the standards for everyone who comes after you. Thank you so much for being my most amazing friend. Hashtag still single, though. Right. It's horrible.

[1:00:33] Lack of fathers creates simps. Well, it certainly helps. My mother cut me off last year, won't talk to me, and I do not miss her, if I am honest.

[1:00:49] So, the simp is someone who only focuses on the needs of the woman, self-erases in order to try to please her. In other words, he's appealing to her narcissism in order to pretend to have a relationship. Sexual access is the only part of sexual access is self-erasure. right? So the mother puts her own needs first and verbally attacks, physically attacks, maybe emotionally abuses anyone who doesn't do what she wants and pleases her in the moment, which is why she's a single mother, right? Because the man, the husband couldn't stand her, couldn't stand the humiliation, right? So the son grows up as the substitute husband and the son grows up being being devoured by the mother, that the mother consumes the son for her own emotional self-aggrandizement, her vanity. Tennessee Williams writes about these kinds of women very powerfully. I mean, Amanda Wingfield in The Glass Menagerie is a classic devouring mother.

[1:01:55] So, a man who grows up as a boy, self-erasure and the appeasement of female narcissism is his only survival strategy. Right? Survival is self-erasure and the endless appeasement of female narcissism. Yeah, being called a mama's boy by a woman is one of the worst insults. Right? Yeah, daddy's girl is not an insult. Mama's boy is an insult. Because a mama's boy would have been verbally abused by a woman and therefore other women are pressing on the wound that they sense in order to control his behavior, And you see this, of course, when you contradict women online, not all women, of course, tons of exceptions, but when you contradict women online, what do you get? It's all the same nonsense. Uh, who hurt you? You know, implying that you're just dealing out of emotional wounds rather than being rational, which is what they're doing. Uh, tiny dick, you know, uh, can't get laid. No woman would touch you. You know, all that kind of stuff, right? So, learn to cut the apron strings. It's spectacularly useless stuff that you're saying, my friend. It doesn't help. It doesn't help.

[1:03:24] You know what an antidote is, right? Sorry, I don't mean to be mean to you guys, but I'm going to be anyway.

[1:03:29] The Antidote to Verbal Abuse

[1:03:30] You know what an antidote is, right? An antidote is something that counteracts the venom, right? So, the venom is usually verbal abuse, right? It's maybe physical abuse when the moms are younger, but it becomes verbal abuse when the kids get over. Yeah. And so that kind of stuff, right? A good woman by definition had an involved good father. Oh, you've said by definition, and that's your proof by definition. Oh, I guess. Well, that's, that's a open and shut case, man. You use the phrase by definition. Are you saying that a woman can't be good by her own volition. She can't learn philosophy, she can't learn reason, she can't learn virtue and become good by her own volition. You're saying women don't have free will? Come on, man. It helps. But a woman can become good without having it involve good father. She can study philosophy, study virtue, find God, find Jesus, find values, whatever. By definition, come on. Please, people, I'm working like a Turk here, don't be lazy. Don't be lazy. An antidote. So what's the antidote to verbal abuse?

[1:04:47] What's the antidote to verbal abuse? Kind of important, because you don't want to be rubbing salt in the wound and calling yourself a good person. They're just simps, incels. They're not mama's boys. They don't cut the apron strings. They're pathetic, right? Okay, so they are where they are because of verbal abuse. Do you really feel that helping them involves more verbal abuse? Look, and I say this good woman, by definition, has an involved good father. A good man, by definition, has an involved good mother. I'm a good man. Did I have an involved good mother? I did not. And, you know, one of the purposes of philosophy is to parent you through reason. No, not verbal praise. No, verbal praise, not verbal praise. Because verbal praise unearned is just, unearned verbal praise is just another form of manipulation, right? Oh, you're so special. Oh, you're so smart. Oh, you're so good, right? Right?

[1:05:44] Kindness, it's partly that. What is the antidote to verbal abuse? You're right, Steph, and I regret saying that they're pathetic. Look, and I appreciate that. I think it's nobly spoken and you got to figure out where that word comes from, right? Yeah, curiosity and compassion. So verbal abuse is, I know exactly who you are and you're shit. You're dumb, you're stupid, you're selfish, you know, you only think of yourself, like whatever, right? Like all of this garbage, right? So the opposite of verbal abuse, verbal abuse is cold-hearted certainty that's wrong. So what's the opposite of cold-hearted, warm-hearted? What's the opposite of certainty, curiosity? And what's the opposite of wrong? Wanting to be right. So compassionate, curious exploration, right? I mean, you guys know this, right? You know this? Okay, tell me how many, give me the number, man. How many call-in shows have you listened to? And most of them are with men. How many call-in shows have you all listened to?

[1:07:03] Just out of curiosity, a thousand or more, right? Have you heard me call someone pathetic just starting out? Now, I've said that mindset is kind of pathetic or that argument is kind of pathetic, but I don't think I, I mean, maybe it's happened. I can't remember and I couldn't imagine. But at 26, 26 is very, very specific. A lot, right? Hundreds hundreds right by the way you can also tip it's a lot of consumption man it's a lot of cost think of like my hourly rate think of the service think of the bandwidth think of the website think of the employees think of the payroll think of the bills new listener welcome so slash donate or you know i've been working like crazy for over an hour here and not No tips yet, so come on, guys. If you could do me a solid, right? This is really important information. So, compassionate curiosity. Now, compassion just means I'm not going to say that you wounded yourself. Do you see what I mean? I'm not going to say that you wounded yourself. No tip. My arguments were not addressed. Okay. That's totally fine. I guess you haven't listened to anything else, then. And I guess you haven't consumed a whole bunch of shows. So that's fine. Hey, if you're a new listener, that's totally fine. Don't worry about tipping me.

[1:08:33] I've listened to almost every podcast since like 2011. I'm a little ashamed to admit I'm not as wise as I think I should be, despite how much I have picked up. Well, you know, I keep getting these requests for like, what's your methodology for the call-in shows? And I'll ask. But you've heard me, of course, say, what do I say to people? I'm incredibly compassionate for what happened to you as a child that wasn't your fault, but you're responsible for what you do as an adult.

[1:09:00] Someone says, listen to the one this morning. Hearing a parent say, the kid made me hit them really gets me angry. And it should. It should. I think that's a healthy response. I was actually just reading about how anger is a strong predictor of success. Curiosity is also the opposite of fear. It could be, yeah. It could be. Mindless praise is just another form of manipulation. I know you didn't say mindless. I'm sort of tacking that on, but... I made that mistake by insulting my ex's father instead of helping him, or at least focusing on the solutions for the family. Well, I don't think you want to... I don't think you want to be trying to morally improve your father-in-law. I mean, if the father-in-law was negative, then you want to protect your wife, right? Anger is also a predictor of physical health. Yeah, yeah, I think that's true. I think suppressed anger is toxic. So...

[1:10:05] And by the way, I think I did answer your question because you had the question about adoption. So maybe I didn't. Maybe you didn't answer it. Maybe I didn't answer it to your satisfaction, but that's all right. Thank you. I appreciate that, John. Very, very kind. I appreciate the tip. You can, of course, tip over on Rumble as well. Longtime fan. Was on the call-in show back in 2015. Good talk. You were very insightful and helped keep me from falling into radicalism.

[1:10:31] Insights and Avoiding Radicalism

[1:10:31] Thank you, Steph, for what you do. Oh, I appreciate that. Thank you. And I appreciate you being around. I actually did get a, I got an email from someone who wanted to do a follow-up show from 2015. I think it was 2015 where they were desperate for their relative to not get married. Their relative got married and now the shit show has arrived. So I may do that one. I mean, and the follow-ups are interesting. Excess unknown praise falls in the love bomb category. Beware, absolutely. It's trying to get you addicted to words rather than virtue, right? To get you addicted to the approval of others rather than virtue. So, um, I mean, I think, I think what people like tune in for, I think what they tune in for lots of things, hopefully, but I think, the form of what you all tune in for, and this is me self-assessing, so I could be way off the mark. It's hard to see yourself, right? As anything other than magnificent, but no, I mean, if I'm off base, let me know. But I think that what you want.

[1:11:29] To see or what people tune in for is for compassion, directness, strength, and moral clarity, right? So, a lot of people who are really compassionate don't have any strength, right? They're just, oh, it's so terrible and don't have any strength, right? Compassion turns into this pathological altruism where you can't ever disagree with anyone and all you do is, quote, be supportive, which I don't even know what that means, right? Other than reinforced delusions. So curiosity, of course, I ask, you know, I mean, I do sometimes two and a half, three hour call-in shows. The first hour and a half, or sometimes even two hours is just asking questions, right?

[1:12:09] So I think you all want to see a strength and assertiveness without abuse, right? Thank you, Ricardo. I appreciate that. you want to see assertiveness without abuse right because pathological altruism is a form of manipulation and it's kind of abusive right so i think you want to see assertiveness without abuse, i think you want to see me stand firm but without being abusive harmful destructive right so own. Because, you know, that's not the most common thing in this world at all. It's not the most common thing in this world. Trying to parent our parents does not fit the arrow of time where parents raise kids. They made it clear that they had no interest then or now in my thoughts on the matter. Yeah. And you are consistent. Well, yeah, I think so. I mean, that's the whole point of principles is to try to be consistent, right? If you can't be consistent, then you don't have any principles right i think like almost by definition right i just said by definition right after mocking someone for saying by definition but it did provide a bit of a definition so.

[1:13:22] Uh, I have traveled the world, 60 countries lived and worked on four continents, have family in 22 countries, and I have yet to find a place where your discoveries were falsified. I appreciate that. Thank you. Thank you. All right. Here's another comment. So, yeah, I mean, if you see a wounded guy, a simp, we say a simp, right? Like the incel or whatever it is, right? If you see a wounded guy, you know, one of the, this is the bully thing, right? So when you see someone who's wounded, don't you have an impulse to kick them? Isn't there kind of a disgust and a contempt for a lot of people when they see someone who's wounded to just, right? Put them down more. When you see someone self-attacking, you go, ah, it's gross. What are you doing to yourself? Don't be ridiculous, right?

[1:14:12] I love this phrase. I don't know who needs to hear this, but you're a great gardener. That plant really should have tried harder right so when you encounter weakness a lot of people's natural impulse is to pour scorn to be superior to call them pathetic to you're a simp you're an incel you're a loser you're this you're that right why because it's safe because the person's already self-attacking you might as well join in they're not going to fight back because they're already broken right so you you're just stepping on somebody's wounds and calling yourself a little taller, right? If I step on their face, I get three inches extra of height if they're in the mud and the blood. So.

[1:14:58] I think that's interesting. I would suggest resisting that impulse because that's where a lot of child abuse comes from is your children are weak, obviously. They're smaller. They are less intelligent, less experienced. They can't fight.

[1:15:20] You back? Oh, thanks, Jared. I already read that one out. Schadenfreude? No, schadenfreude is when you take a sort of emotional pleasure in other people's failures, but it's just a kind of the people who are quote weak and self-attacking and tentative and right they do provoke an urge to strike. Yeah, I get that impulse a lot at work especially I also see it a lot from others, right? You be around tentative nervous people don't you just want to get aggressive? It's like this an invitation, right? It's an invitation to that, right?

[1:15:53] The Urge to Strike

[1:15:54] Do you view those attacks as a sign of weakness? Yeah, for sure. Yeah, for sure. Seeing incompetence is tough for me sometimes. I have to remember I don't know it all, right? I'm not talking about incompetence. I think we're all incompetent from time to time, but when you see somebody who's clearly self-attacking and clearly down on themselves and clearly has no fight left in them and is just kind of in a begging position, the urge is to get aggressive for most people, right? Their masochism provokes your sadism sometimes, not yours, but you know, that happens, right? But yeah, it's a sign of weakness. To attack somebody who's already self-attacking is cowardly. No real possibility of blowback, and you're making the problem worse. You're vampirically feasting off their own negative self-esteem in order to feel better about yourself, right?

[1:16:55] I have donated. I'm disappointed my three arguments weren't rebuttals because they are brief and concise. What? Can be read in two minutes. I argued against StephBot's AI answer, provided my reasoning, and can provide the sources for the data I'm referring to if needed. What? Sorry, maybe I'm mistaken, but I saw a bunch of messages at the beginning that were just walls of text, and then you said, please disregard these messages, and I didn't see more, so. All right. Let's see here. I saw a short where Dr. Peterson was discussing the live talks he has with his wife on stage where they do Q&A. He mentioned how many people reached out to thank him for showing how loving, caring adult spouses interact with each other in a healthy manner. No one has role-modeled that to them, which is a profound and sad commentary on society. It is a limbic urge to attack weakness. I mean, yeah, maybe, I suppose. Maybe. So? So, do you try to have sex with every woman you're attracted to? In limbic urge, do you eat everything that you want to eat? No. The whole point is to overcome all of these urges because we're men and women, not beasts of the jungle.

[1:18:07] Yeah, I was watching something with, he was on the show a couple of times, Dr. Gabor Mate, where he was talking about, he's been married for like 50 years or 50 plus years, and he was saying that in his marriage, when he would want to have sex with his wife and she would say no, he'd end up sobbing in a fetal position.

[1:18:28] That's a little bit of pressure there, brother. Their weakness stirs up anger in me, of which I'm not necessarily proud. out. Well, there's nothing wrong with the anger. What are you shaming your emotions for? This is so girly. Men don't shame their own emotions. I mean, women shouldn't either, but it's particularly girly to tone police yourself, to have an HR department. This is allowed. This is inappropriate. This is good. This is bad. Just swallow yourself whole. Accept yourself. You are who you are. It doesn't mean you have to act on it. When you're picking and choosing parts of yourself, this part is very good. Oh, this part is naughty. Oh, this part is helpful. Oh, this part is inappropriate. Oh, this anger is good. Oh, this anger is bad. My God, how exhausting. Just be yourself. Have your standards so you don't act out in a negative or destructive way. Who are you cubbying your whole into good and bad, right and wrong, plus and minus? Oh, this part is just lovely and moral and diplomatic and political. This part is bad and nasty and feral. And my God almighty, who are you? Who made you God of the evolutionary universe that there's parts of yourself you can carve up like a slice of pie and say good bad indifferent plus minus god how exhausting how exhausting.

[1:19:42] You know every emotion you have is why you are here here. Every emotion you have is exactly why you're here, because we've got three plus billion years of evolution behind us. All that shit within us has been tinkered from here to eternity, and what we have is the shit that works.

[1:20:12] All that we have is the shit that worked beautifully. And you judge it. Three billion years that got us to be the most brilliant apex predator species in the universe that we know of. And you're going to judge that? You with your little microgram of of neofrontal cortex post-monkey beta expansion pack bullshit. You are and I am a grain of sand on the top of the sand dews on the top of the Sahara of our evolution. And you're going to look down there, oh, well, I judge the spleen as monstrously inefficient. Really? Is that what you're doing? Well, this feeling is bad. You know, this feeling got you here. You know, we're all born out at sea, and it takes a team of a hundred people to get us to shore. All of those hundred people have to work together to get us to shore. And then we line them up and we say, you're good, medium, bad, oh, very bad. Oh, super, oh, very, very bad. Oh, I like you, though. What, are you kidding me? They all had to work together to get you here. Kneel down before, kiss the feet, and thank every goddamn one of them. Are you kidding me?

[1:21:41] You really... Do you do this? Do you carve yourself up into good and bad, right and wrong, appropriate and inappropriate? Like you're some psycho Karen HR department sitting on top of three billion years of incredibly successful, absolutely essential evolution? My anger is a problem. Really? You think you get here without anger? My resentment is a problem. How do you know? How the fuck do you know? I don't know. Be curious. Be open. Be compassionate. Hey, why am I resentful? I wonder why.

[1:22:24] Overcoming Urge with Gratitude

[1:22:25] I don't really like my liver. It's not helpful. You know, if the liver was about 20% wider and a third longer, it would be so much better. Yeah, you go back with your brain and you tinker three billion years of evolution that got us here. Emotions are first. They are programmed in the brainstem and limbic system morality. Introspection is cortex, yeah. Your parents were here before you and your feelings were here billions of years ago. And your feelings got you here. Who the hell are you to judge your feelings and carve them into good and bad, right and wrong? That's the job of the rulers to set you against yourself and have you tone police and HR and Karen yourself, it's not your job as a free person.

[1:23:29] How dare you carve up the glory of our inheritance into what you think is right and good and appropriate. None of that shit's your judgment anyway. It all comes from public school teachers. Inappropriate. Shouldn't make that joke. Shouldn't say that. Bad. You're going to tell, I mean, the female public school teachers when you're young, right? All the boys. Too wild, too much noise. You're too restless. Really. You know that wildness, that noise and that restlessness is why you have a school to teach in.

[1:24:04] Boys are rough and noisy, yeah. And that's why you weren't killed in your ancestry. Inappropriate. I listened to your episode about addiction with Gap and Mate and then afterwards found out that he himself is a workaholic and addicted to collecting old music tapes. I think it was classical CDs, but yeah. Honestly, it's one of the most effet addictions I've ever heard of. But yes, that was a thing. I mean, the man sounds like he's carrying a very heavy and immense burden. Yeah, I mean, let me ask you this. Let me ask you this. Just out of curiosity. The fuck would you do if there was nothing wrong with you? Seriously. What would you do if there was nothing wrong with you? Doesn't mean you never make mistakes. Doesn't mean you can't do better. But what would you do if fundamentally there was nothing wrong with you? And if almost all the mistakes you made were because you were thinking there was something wrong with you? What would it be like for you if there was nothing wrong with you? Just out of curiosity, if you could flip a switch.

[1:25:25] What would you do in life if there was nothing wrong with you and you could not be set against yourself. If you could do me a favor, Molly New Enjoyer, if you could hold off on this debate so that people can pay attention to what I'm saying, I'd appreciate that. I'm trying to get some really important info across here. You want to know a little secret? Actually, I don't think I've ever said this on the show before. Do you want to know a little secret? How I keep doing what I do? Thanks. Here's a little secret. I assume that everything I do is right. Everything I do is right.

[1:26:43] I'm not at war with myself. I don't doubt myself. It doesn't mean I'm perfect. It doesn't mean I get everything right. Of course not. But what if? What if everything you do is fine? What if everything you do is right? And I don't mean ex post facto justifications, right? And I'm not talking about UPB violations or anything like that. But what if you didn't fundamentally and foundationally doubt your thoughts and your instincts? Again, there's a barrier between instinct and action. Of course, there should be and there must be. What if your instincts were all fine? What if there was nothing wrong with how you felt? What if you could just openly be curious? And again, it doesn't mean you can't change anything you feel. It doesn't mean you can't query it. It doesn't mean you can't cross-examine it. But what if everything you did was right? Did you ever see me self-attack for the topics I chose that got me deplatformed? Did you ever see... Oh, I shouldn't have done that. Ugh. Why did I take that on? Oh, my God. So terrible. Oh, no, you're unstoppable if you fully integrated yourself, but...

[1:28:08] Have you seen me... Self-attack.

[1:28:24] You've certainly seen me make mistakes in call-in shows and apologize if I get something wrong. Of course, that's fine, right? But because I have the ability to apologize and change course, I can get fully behind every action. Have you seen me foundationally doubt myself in any way? And by doubt myself, I'm just like, I don't have the right to doubt myself because I'm a tiny part of the evolutionary pyramid that got me here.

[1:29:11] There was a study, not the massive study, whatever, right? But it was a study about, what is that taboo-ness of 29 questions? And the most taboo topic was race and IQ, which beat out incest, pedophilia, and whether homosexuality is caused by germs. It was the most taboo topic, right? Have you seen me self-attack? I mean, I'll make jokes about myself and I think I can be funny to myself and all of that.

[1:29:58] But, what if there's nothing wrong with you? What if, you're perfect? What if there's no need for self-attack? Now, doesn't mean you won't make mistakes, but you're perfect if you apologize and make restitution and change course and so on, right? Did I self-attack before I did therapy? Yes. Yes, but I self-attacked because I was not, following my own standards. I was hypocritical and there was, self-attack wasn't the way to do it, but Yeah, I think in the distant past, yes. But I don't do that. I don't do that. I don't hide it. I don't do it. The only times I've ever seen you doubt yourself is purely in the motivation of bettering yourself. Right, because I don't, who am I to say what the limit of my abilities are?

[1:31:07] Who am I to say what the limitations of my abilities are? Because I've achieved almost infinitely more than I expected, which means I can have no rational or empirical reason to put a cap on my abilities. I mean, I did a 25-minute podcast this morning that just blew my own brain. It's not out yet, but it was incredible. The analogies, the arguments, the... And, and I'm going to do better. I don't have the right to put a cap on my own abilities and I don't have the right to judge myself and parts of myself as good or bad, right or wrong, appropriate or inappropriate at all. How can I judge what I did not create? And I did not create myself.

[1:32:10] Right did I create myself nope, can I judge a tree ooh that tree is in an inappropriate spot that tree has the wrong number of branches, that would be very sad wouldn't that be weird to judge that mountain? Oh, that mountain is entirely inappropriate. That mountain should attack itself. This weather is rude. Mars is at a rude distance from the sun.

[1:33:15] To judge what I did not create is an appalling narcissistic vanity.

[1:33:36] Accepting the Perfection

[1:33:37] Hey, as an arborist, sometimes the tree has the wrong number of branches, according to the customer. Yeah, you can judge, for sure, yeah. I remember my father sending me into his fruit trees in Africa in the blazing sun to prune and prune and prune. Ah, nothing better than doing massive amounts of free labor for the guy who abandoned you as a baby. So, how can you judge yourself when you did not create yourself? And through judging yourself, you harm yourself. And how dare you harm that which you did not create? You understand, your instincts are not your property. Your property is what you create. You know, you write a book, that's your property. Your feelings and your instincts, you did not create.

[1:34:48] Do you see what I'm saying? your instincts your dreams your passions your gut your creativity your potential you didn't create that you don't own it, now you can judge what you create right you write a poem you can judge whether it's a good or bad poem although often that judgment will be incorrect, but you can't judge what you don't create, and you didn't create your instincts. You don't own them. They're not yours. You don't have feelings. Feelings produced you. The mother of her evolution produced the child of the brain. Now, we don't say the child owns the mother, the child has the mother, the mother is part of the child. No, the child is produced by the mother.

[1:35:56] This is an indispensable live stream tonight. Thank you, Steph. We were produced by the multi-billion year march of tyrannized and lustful flesh. And the brain, is the final supernova of a near infinitely existing universe.

[1:36:30] You don't own your feelings, and you should not judge your feelings, because your feelings produced you. And if the feelings produced you, judging your feelings as negative is wishing you didn't exist. You follow? Since all the constellation and complexity of your feelings and your instincts in your body produced your mind over billions of years, judging your feelings, your instincts, your gut as negative, this is good, this is bad, this is right, this is wrong, is saying that you are so smart that you would tinker with the origins of your own intelligence for the better. But you only have the intelligence, to damn your feelings, because your feelings worked.

[1:37:40] This is what I mean when I say a hundred, a thousand, ten thousand, a million people worked all in unison to get you to the shore, you being consciousness, rational consciousness. Billions of years of evolution worked to get you to the shore. How dare you turn around and insult everyone who got you here? How dare you judge that which produced your capacity to judge? How about a little fucking gratitude? Do you see what I'm saying? How about a little gratitude? Thank you, anger. Thank you, fear. Thank you, anxiety. Thank you, nervousness. Thank you, love. Thank you, lust. Thank you, everything. Thank you, everything that got me here, to this glorious capacity to think and to reason and to dream and to contemplate and to create and to argue, to debate, to improve, to polish, to shine. Thank you, everyone, who delivered to me this incredible three pounds of ultimate wetware.

[1:39:01] All you untold zillions of cells and atoms and physics and biology that delivered to me, through billions of years of stagger, lust, love, loss and toil, delivered to me the supernova of rational thought. Should we not be grateful to all the ancestry that gave birth to our brilliance? But no, we turn back like the ungrateful children of stereotype and we judge the thousands of bloody hands that had to be combined in order to give us the great gift of brilliance. We turn back and we judge them in a cold, mechanistic manner. You were good, you were bad, you're fine, but not too much, not too little. My God. We are fascists to all the flowers that give our face light.

[1:40:05] Ignoring your feelings is like ignoring a check engine light, oil light, or water temperature. Bro, way to take some true poetry and turn it into mere mechanics.

[1:40:24] Do you know how many people died to get us the gift of the mind?

[1:40:32] How many creatures and animals untold hundreds of millions of generations, billions of generations perhaps, untold billions of generations, suffered, fought, loved, hated, and died in order to give us the great gift of intelligence and all of the components that lie within us, like the infinite graveyards of excellence that produced who we are. We are full of the graveyards of evolution. And all that worked led us to who we are, and then we turn back and we judge it. Good, bad, right, wrong Appropriate, inappropriate, rude That's too much, that's too little My God, Just have some gratitude For the glory of who you are And how you got here And kneel before everything that came before you And everything that lies within you With incredible thanks and gratitude, And say What an incredible job, What an incredible job that nature rubbed its fierce, clawed, tinder-taloned hands together for billions and billions of years, and it was. The supernova intelligence finally alights. You ever do that where you're trying to light a fire from wood? You're rubbing it, encircling it, and it just takes forever.

[1:41:57] 3 billion years plus, 14 billion years plus of rubbing and strain and strife. 100,000 years ago, 150,000 years ago, 200,000 years ago, supernova. Intelligence ignites. And what does that intelligence do with that incredible gift? What does that intelligence do? What do we do? We turn around, we slice and dice, and we judge and we condemn. them. This anger is too much. That negative feeling is bad. I know better than my anxiety. I'm just going to keep doing what I'm doing. Screw all of you that got me here. I'm going to judge everything now. It's all about me and my judgments and what's convenient to me. Fuck you all. And we wonder why we're unhappy. Because we are tyrants and we rebel and we judge. And we're ungrateful.

[1:43:05] But isn't the mind, this is what somebody says, but isn't the mind fuck really where you do have control is over how you respond to what you experience? As in experiencing your thoughts and emotions and beliefs? I get confused on whether I judge my emotions or judge my response to my emotions. How about just stop judging? How about, I mean, just try it. I'm not saying throw everything to the wind and go back to the primordial soup. But how about you stop judging? How about you just are and live and feel and think and don't judge?

[1:43:40] Stop Judging, Start Living

[1:43:41] Why not? Do you think that you will be a monster if you accept yourself? Do you think if you stop opposing yourself, you will be some kind of Genghis Khan incandescent evil writing filthy language across the sky? Do you understand that this is statism? Without the tyrant, all is violence. Without the rigid superego judgment of the late-comer intellect, the passions are demonic.

[1:44:28] This is why people believe you need the state. Without the tyrant, mere anarchy and red-nailed violence is loosed across the world. You understand, people believe in that, because they believe that their shining intellect is holding back all the demons of our pre-existence from ravaging the world in animal violence.

[1:45:03] Once you no longer judge and censor yourself, once you are no longer violent with yourself, once you no longer verbally abuse all of the great beasts that got you here and still live within you, once you stop restraining yourself, self, once you stop judging and categorizing and splitting the atom of your own existence, once you truly accept and praise everyone and everything and every feeling and every atom and every cell that got you here, you will lose all desire to bully, categorize and control everybody else. Once you understand that what's on the other side of true self-acceptance is benevolent morality, not nature red in tooth and claw, then you will understand that a society without a political hierarchy will be at peace. Because you will be at peace having loosed the restraint upon yourself as society will be at peace loosing the violent restraint upon itself.

[1:46:25] The state is a state of mind. If people feel that without the state, all is violence, and they also think that without self-restraint, all is violence. No, no, no. Violence comes from excessive, hostile judgment against the self. Because when you excessively and harshly judge yourself, you lose empathy with yourself, you lose empathy with yourself, you lose empathy with others. And then all you can do is bully, manipulate and exploit to get what you want. Because you don't feel that you're worth reciprocity because you're not reciprocal with all of your ancestors and all of the evolution that brought you to where you are. What if there's nothing wrong with you? See, if there's nothing wrong with you, people can love you. If there's nothing wrong with you, people can be themselves around you. If there's nothing wrong with you, you're deeply worthy of getting to know.

[1:47:45] And if there's nothing wrong with you, shouldn't you accept the deep glory of who you are?

[1:48:00] Having nothing hostile in yourself towards yourself, you can't be controlled from the outside because they can't set you to self-attack. So if you're willing to attack yourself, this goes back to people wanting to kick Pick the guy who's down. If you can't attack yourself, you can't be manipulated by others because there's no lever through which you can be manipulated. I mean, you could be violently aggressed against, Lord knows that's happened, but you can't be manipulated. Other people can't sell you peace if you won't self-attack. Other people can't threaten you With bullying, if you don't bully yourself.

[1:48:49] Do you see what I mean? You liberate other people from their temptation to control you when you no longer try to bully yourself. People can actually be with you and interact with you directly. And you can open your heart to every single one of its infinite chambers of deeply inhabited evolutionary perfection. Well, the heart shouldn't have that many ventricles. It should have twelve ventricles. I know better. Really? Really. You, who came at the very end and did almost nothing, knows exactly how everything should be built.

[1:49:42] Lee says, has anyone ever felt like they were a bother everywhere they went? Glad to be free of those thoughts. Right. And you understand that self-acceptance is self-protection. So when you accept yourself, people can't bully you. When people can't bully you, they move away. They move because they feel powerless. The only power they have is your ability to bully yourself. So when you don't bully yourself, others move away and avoid you because you've rendered their power absent.

[1:50:25] And when people can't bully you, they move away if they're bullies, and they draw close if they're kind. Because if you are kind to yourself, you repel the bullies, the ugly, the vicious, the violent, and you draw towards you the compassionate, the curious, the strong, and the moral. You cannot have, you cannot have better relationships with others than you have with yourself. You want to be loved, you got to love yourself. You want to be respected, you got to respect yourself. You want to be good, you got to be good to yourself. It is hypocrisy to ask people to love you more than you love yourself. It is exploitation to demand a respect from others that you do not provide to yourself.

[1:51:16] Respect Every Part

[1:51:16] And by respect, I don't mean ex post facto justifying everything you do is automatically respectful. I mean having the respect for every part of yourself.

[1:51:42] Eminem battle rapping at 8 Mile? I don't know that we'd want to put Eminem forward, as a paragon of mental health and self-acceptance. He was kind of monstrous, wasn't he? Other people can insult you, of course, but do you insult yourself? If you don't verbally abuse yourself, off. Corrupt people will avoid you. And in this, in this, the Christians are absolutely unparalleled. Because you understand, although I'm talking about evolution, right down at the root of this, Christianity and philosophy are one. Right down at the root of this. Is that which God makes flawed and self-destructive? No. God is the ultimate engineer. That which God makes is perfect.

[1:52:58] And most sin is doubting the perfection of what you've inherited.

[1:53:10] And being bullied is doubting the perfection of what you have inherited. And whether we believe in the perfection of our nature because of billions of years of evolution, or the all-knowing, all-wise glowing fingers, fingers of God the Engineer, is not fundamentally essential. If I say to you, how dare your mere Johnny-come-lately intellect judge the billions of years of evolution that produced it, you can't judge that which produced you as negative without wishing you didn't exist. I'm talking about the physical side. How dare How dare you judge the products of billions of years of evolution that has produced this miraculous capacity for you to think, reason, and judge, number one. Or number two, how dare you judge the mind, body, and soul that God has created as unworthy. Because that is to say that God can create something that is shameful and unworthy.

[1:54:35] You don't have the right to carve yourself up into good and bad, right and wrong, polite and rude, diplomatic and inconsiderate, selfish, selfless. You don't have the right to do that. Everything that your body does when you're healthy produces and maintains health. Everything within your mind got you to have the capacity to have a mind. All the layers, all the way down to the spine, all the way down to the base of the brain, all the way down to the lizard brain, all of that is layers upon layers upon layers upon layers that produce the bedrock and the structures and the cathedrals upon which the tiny north star light of consciousness rests and is built. It's like saying, I love the cross on top of the church. But I hate everything underneath it. I love this cathedral. I hate the hole in the ground on which it stands and through which it is the only reason that it stands.

[1:56:03] If the cathedral can't stand without the foundation, to love the cathedral and to hate the foundation is insane. And to love the power to judge and to use that to carve up, oppose, judge and condemn aspects of the self is an absolute lack of gratitude for all the suffering and striving that produced your glorious mind. And your mind is glorious, and my mind is glorious. Whether you can pull off these skeins and threads and northern lights of language is not relevant. I may have peculiar abilities in this way, but you have your own power in other ways. And the power to appreciate language is as powerful as the power to create. in language. Because the painter, without the audience, doesn't paint. And you, having the power to appreciate what I'm saying, is why I'm able to say it, and why me saying it has value, and why it's existing at all. So you are absolutely part of everything that I'm creating in the show tonight. The singer sings a song in the middle of a desert. It is never recorded. The song is equivalent to not existing.

[1:57:32] You are participating in philosophy by being here and ruminating and communicating over the course of these live streams. This is a group project. This is a team. Just as your heart, mind, thoughts, feelings, sinews and instincts are a team, your mind is a team, your body is a team that produces consciousness, we are a team that produces philosophy. Most times I'm bouncing off questions and comments from you, the beautiful audience. Thank you. It's a team.

[1:58:12] Apart from the appendix. Right. But you see, if we'd never had the appendix, we wouldn't have made it here anyway. Like that little monkey tip at the end of our spine, the little remnant of the monkey tail. Well, if we hadn't had the tail, we wouldn't be here. See, the appendix is also why we're here. Even though its value is a mite questionable at the moment, it's still why we're here.

[1:58:42] Somebody says, thanks, Steph. This has been tremendously helpful. I'm not sure the degree I can keep from attacking myself, but you've at least helped me lay out a better path for me. Logically, I get it. I need to work towards living it and appreciating the glory that's there. Two wet fingers are closing around you. You understand? You ever put out a candle? You lick your fingers? You understand? You're born. The fingers, we don't even know how wide they are could be very wide, could be quite narrow. We're born with two wet fingers closing around the fires of our mind. The candle of our being is going out. Whether you accept yourself, whether you reject yourself, whether you love yourself, whether you hate parts of yourself, whether you embrace all that you are or carve it up and slice and dice it and hate and love and and cut yourself into ribbons and smithereens and atoms and dust. The wet fingers close and extinguish regardless.

[1:59:58] I only brought up the eight-mile comparison because he did not self-attack. Rather, he took self-ownership, and it propelled him to win the competition at the end of the movie. No, because the competition was about verbal abuse. Oh, he was really good at verbal abuse. He just happened to verbally abuse himself. That's not what I'm talking about. Verbally abusing yourself in order to pacify verbal abusers is not what I'm talking about. It's not a low-bar comparison. It's a reversal of what I'm talking about. You understand, if the instrument produces beautiful sounds, there's nothing ugly about the instrument. A Stradivarius, a Gibson, if the instrument produces a beautiful sound, there is nothing ugly about the instrument. Somebody says, even the appendix has a function, although not vital, it serves as the reservoir bar of healthy bacteria so your gut bacteria can recover faster after an illness. All right. I did not know. I do not know much about the appendix other than it goes at the end of the book.

[2:01:14] Are we tip-worthy tonight? I think we're tip-worthy tonight. Come on, brothers and sisters. You don't get to see performances like this that often. In fact, I think they're rather unprecedented, and I really appreciate you being here. I think a tip or two would not be the end of the world. This is very, very deep wisdom that is very, very hard-earned by me. Went through a lot to get this and communicate it in a way that hopefully lands not just in... I'm talking not to the top of your brain alone, but to all of you, right? I need these words to sink down like stones in the mud. Take some time to get to the bedrock, right? I'm not just speaking to your intellect. I'm speaking to all of you that you should all be a unity of self-acceptance to work towards the greatest capacity you can produce. And you cannot sprint while punching your legs. and you cannot jump while weighing yourself down. Don't worry if you're broke. Absolutely take it. Enjoy. If you're broke, my sympathies, take it. Enjoy. Don't feel bad. Work to make some money, not for me, but for your own choice and capacity to.

[2:02:31] Have a different kind of life than you have when you're broke. You can choose to be broke. You can choose not to spend money if you have it, but if you don't have money, it's tough to make that choice. So, slash donate, if you would like to help out the show. It's funny, you know, I call it a show, but it's so much more than that. This is carving down the infinite tree bark of the universe for all time. I'm sort of very aware of that, that I'm branding words into the air, visible forever. It feels like a huge responsibility. It is a huge responsibility. I try not to screw it up, but I find that if I accept every part of me, the language that comes out is staggering. It staggers me. I'm like, what am I going to say next? Trust my instincts. What am I going to say next? Trust my instincts. This isn't syllogism. This isn't mapping things out. This is, this is gut work, gut work. And I hope that I have demonstrated complete self-acceptance, even in the manifestation of this language, which is spontaneous.

[2:03:38] Coin wallet is empty when the spirit is willing. Oh, thank you. I appreciate that. later, you know, when you get some cashola, I would very much appreciate that. But I think I am done. I tipped through the site. Thank you very much, Chris. I appreciate that.

[2:03:54] Get you something Friday. I'm broke, but definitely could be more broke. I appreciate that. And listen, again, if you're low on cash, you can wait until you're not. I certainly don't want to take anything close to the line for you in terms of income. But if you could help me out, I would really, really appreciate it. We're doing some great work here. We've got another guy who's come to work with us. You'll hear him, of course, if you listen to the review that is coming out about the movie Civil War, which is a really, really good review. Yeah, send me an email. Arguments on UPB are very good to get on email, and I would appreciate that. You can email me, of course, support at, and also again if you're a donor you can get primary i had a bunch of people who wanted call in shows which i'm not going to do for reasons maybe i'll get into some other time but if you want your donor just mention it when you email me call in at free you get to the front of the queue be very happy to set you up and we've got some great shows coming out over the next little while so thank you everyone so much for your time today i massively hugely deeply and humbly appreciate it and i will talk to you guys on friday night lots of love up here.

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