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0:00 - Introduction
9:53 - Unforeseen Eruption
12:08 - Trustworthiness Inquiry
22:05 - Early Maturity
23:05 - Slowest Development
27:17 - Considerate Actions
36:25 - Defer Gratification
38:57 - The Early Days of YouTube
42:33 - Loyalties and Decision Points
47:58 - Making the World a Better Place
51:26 - Commitment and Free Will
53:34 - The Dangers of Polyamorous Marriages
57:49 - The Tragic Reality of Polyamory
1:02:33 - Understanding Government Power
1:05:03 - The Debate on Polyamory
1:08:25 - The Impact of Doing Good
1:11:07 - Virtue in Personal vs. Public Life
1:15:36 - Taking on the Powers That Be
Stephen Molyneux from Freedomain initiates the conversation by reflecting on reaching the age of 55 and shares his thoughts on the concept of Freedom 55. He encourages audience engagement on a range of topics, leading the discussion through personal anecdotes, musings on Phil Collins songs, and broader societal issues including Israel's infection rates and responses to the pandemic. Through a critical lens, he evaluates the consequences of pandemic measures, the role of vaccines, and the significance of trusting information sources. Addressing fundamental questions regarding credibility, trustworthiness, and transparency, Molyneux prompts listeners to contemplate their sources of trust and the repercussions of suppressing symptoms on the spread of viruses. Drawing from historical contexts, he underscores the potential risks associated with symptom suppression and different societal approaches to managing illnesses. The dialogue seamlessly transitions between personal narratives and overarching concerns, highlighting the importance of critical thinking and discerning reliable sources amid changing narratives.
In reflecting on the unpredictability of events and recognizing their limitations in a specific field, the speaker delves into the correlation between symptom suppression and the spread of viruses. Questions arise about the effects of mRNA training and antibodies on achieving herd immunity. The conversation expands to discuss the significance of maturity and delayed gratification in child development, cautioning against premature maturity that may lead to stagnation. As the focus shifts to the multifaceted issues surrounding the pandemic, the necessity of free speech for informed decision-making is emphasized. The speaker warns against suppressing dissent in the short term and the potential consequences for navigating societal challenges. Emphasizing the importance of instilling the ability to delay gratification in children for their holistic development, the speaker discourages approaches that only address immediate consequences without fostering genuine maturity.
The speaker reminisces about the early days of YouTube and shares the excitement of joining the platform, highlighting the evolution of social media and the shift in controlling narratives to platforms like YouTube and Twitter. Contemplations arise on the dilemma of awakening individuals who have made irreversible decisions, with personal stories and analogies illustrating the significance of commitment and the limitations of free will in various life aspects. The conversation extends to moral considerations, the institution of marriage, child-rearing practices, and the societal implications of polyamorous relationships. Strong opinions are expressed on the vital role of monogamous relationships in raising children, with an emphasis on the primary purposes of marriage and sexuality being oriented towards the betterment of children.
The host navigates various topics ranging from polyamory to power dynamics within the government, COVID vaccinations, and the challenges of enacting good in a corrupt society. Delving into the nuances of virtue in personal versus public life, historical and contemporary examples are employed to underscore key arguments. Engaging with audience comments and sharing personal anecdotes, the host concludes with gratitude for the interactive session, conveying warmth and well-wishes in the sign-off.
[0:00] Hope you're doing well. Stephen Molyneux from Freedomain. And yeah, I thought we'd give it a try.
[0:08] Sage-colored walls, is that right? Oh, there's nothing like making you feel young. Do you know I'm going to be 55 this month?
[0:15] And it's funny because when I was growing up, it was always Freedom 55, Freedom 55. You're going to be Freedom 55. I would say liberty achieved, liberty achieved in, I think, a way that's positive for me, positive for the world, hopefully positive for you as well. So, hi, I have some stuff to talk about, but I don't want to make it all about me when it could be all about us. So if you have questions comments issues challenges criticisms naggings hairstyle suggestions i am very very happy to hear of them for you uh yeah i don't don't look at a day over 20 with this h8 a little wattle here from the old surgery uh to remove stuff but uh yeah that was there good good good and questions issues comments i mean i i can talk man i got stuff to talk about like you wouldn't believe you may not believe but i'm happy to hear what you have i you know want to charge in and take over the convo well so i've got this yeah i got this new camera i'm still working with i'm trying to see it's not this one this is just a webcam uh and um i'm just seeing it's got a tiny bit where it smooths out your skin.
[1:44] So yeah is it called turkey neck yeah that's right get it out of my system are you and phil collins related no but we both work in the stew stew studio that is an 80s dad joke that is an 80s dad joke what can i tell you um ouch yeah yeah yeah well you know you you set me up i'll I'll knock him down okay favorite Phil Collins song go what's your favorite Phil song where am I reading the chat from I'm reading it from from Telegram favorite Phil Collins song go what you got what you got, Come on, hit me up. Favorite Phil. Easy Lover. All right. Sorry, I didn't ask for your tramp stamp tattoos. I just asked for your favorite Phil Collins song. I mean, I guess you can give me both if you want, but that's my question. In the Air Tonight. Yeah. Susu Studio. Yeah, pretty good song.
[2:40] However you spell it. I would recommend, gosh, how does it go? Take that look of glory. I'm an ordinary man. They don't tell me nothing, so I find out all I can. There's a fire that's been burning right outside my door. I can't see what I'm feeling, but it helps to keep me warm, but I don't mind. It's a really good, I don't mind. Oh, I don't mind. That's a really, really good, really good song i can see the chat oh it was phil collins on south park as well that's pretty funny that's that's kind of funny that's kind of funny yeah so take me home that's a song with peter gabriel and sting and man those the drums are just oh his drumming is fantastic of course right but yeah so hope you guys are.
[3:40] Doing well um have you seen uh the news today just out of curiosity have you seen what's been going on what's going down have you have you heard the news so the news of course is that israel now has the highest infection rate in the world by population the highest infection rate in the world by population. So here's my question. And I think it's a pretty important question, but here's my question.
[4:13] Isn't it ironic? A little too ironic. So yeah, here's my question. Who predicted that? Who predicted that? I want to know. Who predicted that? Who predicted that the most vaccinated country just about would have the highest infection rates in the world?
[4:37] Who predicted that? Or who put that? I mean, prediction is a tough word. Who put that forward as a possibility? Who put that forward as a possibility? That's what I want to know. Everybody's putting songs in my head. I read the news today, oh boy, about a lucky man who made the grade. So, Iceland also getting hit pretty hard, right? And boy, you want to look at the various African countries, some used ivermectin, some didn't. Oof, oof, it's something else.
[5:15] So now, of course, the news isn't all one-sided, right? So the news, of course, is also that the hospitalization rates are fairly low.
[5:28] But who's old enough to remember? Let's sort of go back on a little journey here. Who's old enough to remember when we were told that vaccinations would have us return to normal and would end the pandemic? Does anybody remember? Was I in a fever dream? Was I fantasizing? Was I off my rocker back then? Did they not say, did people not say as a whole, in general, on balance, well, you get these vaccines and the pandemic will be over and you can go back to normal. I distinctly remember Dr. Fauci saying, you get the vaccines, he said, it's going to be late fall last, oh, sorry, early spring this year, then summer this year, we go back to normal, then fall this year. Does anyone remember any concerns about fading immunity kind of falling off the cliff after six months? Anybody? Does anybody remember these things? Was it just me? Was I dreaming? Was I having some LSG butt cellulite fat release flashback? Does anybody remember? Are we living in a sane world at all?
[6:46] Does anybody remember any of this stuff at all? Or we'll be living in a complete fucking stuck in a rotating glass door of hell, range at the moment, dog sniffing its own ass, dopamine chasing, no time slice idiocy world.
[7:13] My God. People are goldfish. Yeah, now they're looking at supplementing the vaccine with twice-daily pills. Although I think the Pfizer, I think it is. So the twice-daily pills, I think, are supposed to be something to do with if you get symptoms or something like that. Holy fucking shit, man. It's not that I'm surprised. I mean, it's not that you're surprised. It is just, it's just keep on moving. Keep on moving. Nothing new, no new variant, new scare, nothing new. Just keep moving. Let's not go back. I'll tell you this, man. I'll tell you this.
[8:02] I was in the software field and I ran big projects. Some of them a million dollars or more. And after the project, we would always go off-site, do some fun stuff. We went whitewater rafting. We went tubing. We went a variety of things. And then we would sit down and say, okay, what went right? What went wrong in the project? What was predicted? What played out? Who was right? Who was wrong? Because I hate this idea of just keep going on. Like you're lost in a fucking snowstorm. You just keep moving on. Keep moving on. Never circle back. Never check. Never see. Never know anything. Fucking blur of the now. I can't stand it. It's like living, well, it's worse than living like a toddler. At least a toddler will remember you or a baby will remember you and smile when you return. It's like living like a fucking protozoa. Don't you get that feeling? Who are we surrounded by? Just people, oh, here's the news headline. No continuity. Like how much trauma do you have to have gone through? That you can't remember anything about what you were promised in the most important commitment ever made in your lifetime.
[9:19] How much trauma do you have to be in where you can't even seem to remember the most important commitment that was ever offered up to you in your entire fucking life? Commitment being, okay, yeah, it's kind of experimental. It's semi-approved for emergency use But take it because that'll end the pandemic We can go back to normal, And, you know, we just need 70% Just 70% Past 70% Oh, 75% Past 75% Oh, 80% Now it's 85 plus percent.
[9:54] So here's my concern, because we're not talking about these things, what's going to happen is it's going to, all of this anger and frustration is going to sink down into people's hearts and souls, and it's going to erupt in unforeseen, an unforeseeable way. Well, it's pretty foreseeable. People are just going to get angry. People are just going to get angry because we can't track the promises. We can't talk about the promises. We can't say, here was the commitment. Here's what's happened. Gap analysis, who's got credibility? It's the one thing you need to know in life, if there's one thing you need to know in life, who has credibility? Because we all have to listen to a bunch of people say a bunch of shit in the world. I'm the person saying a bunch of shit in the world. So who has credibility? Who can you trust? Who can you believe? If you don't know who the hell to trust, you can't make a family. You can't have friends. Your kids can't have... If you don't know who to trust, if you don't know who has credibility, if you don't know who's out here working their asses off to try and get you the best possible information in the most self-critical manner possible, you've got nothing.
[10:59] You've got a life of locked down, brain-spinning, kaleidoscopic paranoia and paralysis. Who, you know, it's like, who do you love? Who do you trust? Who do you trust? Who's trustworthy to you? You got a dentist who's trustworthy? Yeah, hopefully. Got a doctor who's trustworthy? Yeah, hopefully. Who do you trust? Who do you trust? Because we can't figure out everything for ourselves. We can't. We can't become experts in everything. We can't look at all the source data, even if it's available. Who do you trust? Foundational question in life. More important than I love you is I trust you. Because you can't have the love without the trust. Who? So without mentioning me, if that happens to be me, just let me know. Just let me know in the chat here. Who? do you trust? Not 100%, but who's got a decent, not me, but who's got a decent track record out there?
[12:01] Who do you trust? Who do you trust?
[12:09] Some people say Chris Munson, some people say Alex Jones, some people say this community, but But, yeah, who do you trust? I don't trust who? World Health Organization, yeah. Who do you trust? It's really important. It's really important. So I'm going to have a card. Alex is okay. Yeah, who do you trust? Who's self-critical? Who puts forward absolutes and who puts forward conditionals? And who circles back to check those conditionals?
[12:59] Who can you trust? I mean, the mainstream media is just, you know, the guy who came up with ivermectin got the Nobel Prize for medicine. He got the Nobel Prize for medicine. This is a seriously great guy. And now it's just a horse dewormer. Again, I don't know if a treat's covered or not. I don't know if it's Joe Rogan's health or his cocktail or a combo of things that got him through this pretty easily. Who in your like i forget the online thing here's the other question right who in your life, who in your life do you trust who can you sit eyeball to eyeball with and unpack your heart, and know that they will not run a game on you they'll not run a racket on you they will will not betray you, they will not run to people and say, oh my God, he said such and such. Who do you trust with your thoughts, concerns, your fears? I'm telling you, my friends, if you don't have someone in real life that you trust, I'm begging you, do me a solid and try and get someone. Try and find someone. I'm begging you. Oh, more than one.
[14:27] Trust yourself? Well, yeah, but you've got to trust others. You can't trust yourself in isolation because we have to make decisions about big pieces of information. You can't just trust yourself in isolation. Someone's got a good few close friends. Good, my hubby. Good. I don't think we trust anyone 100%. Well, that means you don't trust yourself 100%. And trusting someone doesn't mean that everything they say is gospel. It just means that you trust that they have good intentions and can self-correct. What else have we got? 100% my brother. I'd be dead without him. Your soul brother? Good. Good. I don't trust my family, honestly. Even my mom, who's a nurse. I'm sorry to hear about that.
[15:23] Uh hate people who say they're open but once politics comes in that openness goes out the window oh yeah people say that they're open-minded until you say something that triggers them and then the open-mindedness turns out to be a bait and switch right it's just a bait and switch it's just uh it's like the guy who used to work for the king who would come and try and talk treason to people and people would have to continually denounce it and and he would send those people around so the people could never self-organize because they'd always be concerned that if you had any opposition even philosophical to the powers that be that one of your members would be from the state and right it's a great way to make sure people can't organize and exchange information right the pandemic made me realize that i only trust my direct family parents and siblings and my wife. Yeah.
[16:14] So, I mean, I was thinking, of course, self-critically. Now, it was back in January, I think, that I talked about, I started a whole series on the COVID and I said this is going to be a huge deal, huge deal, huge deal. China's Chernobyl, right? It's what I referred to it as. But China's Chernobyl was, if Chernobyl had failed, like if they had not contained it, right? It's China's Chernobyl.
[16:42] And I said very early on that lockdowns would cost more lives than they save. That's turned out to be true. I said very early on that asymptomatic transmission was highly doubtful. And there's been lots of studies that, I think there was a study of millions of people in Wuhan found no asymptomatic transmission. Right.
[17:01] I said masks were doubtful, but they had value in terms of they might remind you to not touch your face and so on. So I said, but masks, as far as transmission goes, you know, they're not going to do the whole thing. Far from it. And I did say, of course, that the vaccines were rushed. That was no big brain surgery. I did say that the two major risks with regards to the vaccines would be, A, that they may drive variants. Experience and b and this to me was the most important one of the least spoke about by other people is that by suppressing symptoms you don't know that you're sick and if you don't know that you're sick then you're out there spreading the virus and say ah well you're spreading the virus to other people who are who are unvaccinated or who are vaccinated they should be fine too but nonetheless there are still lots of people who are unvaccinated and that's that's the issue right um.
[17:51] One of the things that kept SARS very limited in 2003 was that people got very sick and they just took to bed. They knew they were sick, so they just stayed in their room. People stayed away from them and it didn't transmit that way. But when you suppress symptoms, and there've been some studies I've read, I can't verify, but there've been some studies I've read that the The viral loads in vaccinated people in their nose and in their sputum is dozens or even hundreds of times higher than similarly infected people who are unvaccinated. So by suppressing symptoms, they are reducing the reality that people even know that they're sick.
[18:37] And, you know, and it's funny, and here's why I know this, and it's funny, it's just everything has prepared me for this stuff. Here's why I know this stuff. Because when I was working in daycare, you know, I was with another teacher, I wasn't a teacher teacher, I was a teacher's aide or whatever, right? But we had 25 to 30 kids aged 5 to 10. Now, of course, as you can imagine, this was a giant Petri dish of various kinds of infections, right? Right. And so we would sometimes find out that parents, usually single mothers, not out of disrespect to single mothers, it's just they didn't have anyone else often to take care of the kids. They would have to go to work. And what they would do is they would load their kids up with whatever medications would suppress their symptoms. So if the kid had a cough, they'd load them up with cough syrup. If the kid had congestion, they would load them up with anti-congestions and all that kind of stuff. And they would do that to suppress the symptoms of the kids so that the kids would go to the daycare. They'd have some place to put their kids because they couldn't stay home from work for whatever reason, right?
[19:43] Now, we were kind of mad at this because by suppressing the symptoms and putting their kids in a social environment, those kids spread the viruses. They spread the whatever it was that was causing them to be ill, and that was not particularly good, right? Right. So remembering that, of course, I was remember thinking, OK, so when you just suppress symptoms and send people out into the world, they tend to spread the virus more. Oh, right.
[20:08] And so I talked about that.
[20:12] And so when you have, and this isn't even the ADE or anything like that, right? But when you look at things like the most vaccinated country just about having the most infections in the world.
[20:33] I can't say that I predicted it because I can't, I'm always, these things are always conditional because I'm not an expert in the field by any stretch of the imagination. But here's a risk and here's what I've experienced and here's the common sense thing. The common sense thing is if you suppress the symptoms, you increase the spread. it. Now, I don't know what happens with our natural antibodies when you have the training of the mRNA training of the cells to produce the spike protein and then have the antibodies against the spike protein. I don't know how all this mixes together. Maybe this is a way of getting genuine herd immunity by spreading the... I don't know. I don't know. But I'm just saying that being a philosopher always generally means being very sad to be right.
[21:28] So I didn't do too badly with regards to predictions. And I hope that, that you have, uh, obviously come to your own conclusions and figured out what you're going to do with, with what's coming. All right. I get nervous having to go back to wearing a mask for nine hours a day. Oh, yeah, the mask people are just amazing. It's just amazing.
[22:00] Different topic. Okay, yeah, listen, I just want to try this. We'll just try this a little bit and see how it plays.
[22:05] But Lucy asks, different topic. Why do you think some children and teenagers are unusually mature, character-wise, and is it really a positive thing as many adults believe? leave. Right. Okay. So there's a general principle in biology and development, which is that which is slowest to develop ends up the most complex, right? That which is the slowest to develop ends up the most complex. My daughter and I took our ducks out for their walks this morning. And of course, I always remembered that they were running around at the age of two or three days, right? Now they're in their fourth week of life and they're just huge. But ducks are very slow, so very quick to develop and end up not complex in terms of their movement, their brains or whatever it is.
[22:52] Human beings are incredibly slow to develop. It takes a quarter century for the male brain to reach full maturity. Women's get it a couple of years earlier. That which takes the longest to develop ends up the most complex.
[23:05] Yes, horses, ducks, you name it, they can develop the ability to walk very shortly after being born if not right at birth but they end up not very complex human beings take it depends on the race it takes a year uh anywhere from 11 to 13 months depending on the race on average for children to learn how to walk and but we end up being able to do gymnastics right so that which takes the longest to develop ends up being the most complex.
[23:38] And so if a child matures early they will tend to get stuck there right if a child quote matures early they will tend to get stuck there because they're not going through the natural phase of development they will tend to get stuck there now why children end up maturing early so maturity to to a large degree, is extending one's time horizon and being willing to sacrifice present pleasures for future gains, right? That's what maturity is. It's really what civilization is as a whole. So, you know, the deferral of gratification is the hallmark of civilization of maturity and so on, right? Like, you know, you may hate what someone says, but you don't want hate speech laws because they'll be used against you, they'll suppress debate, and the world The world is currently going through a giant paroxysm of finding out what it's like without free speech. That is what is currently going on in the world. The world is currently going through an entire paroxysm of the most complicated topics around vaccines, lockdowns, mRNA, antibody-dependent enhancement potential, coronavirus in there, wild-hitting people, vaccines, cytokine storms, like all of this incredibly complicated stuff. And yeah.
[25:00] But there's no free speech about it. There's no free speech about it. So now we are navigating blind, the most complicated thing that can be imagined. We are navigating almost completely blind, right? So Joe Rogan takes ivermectin and everybody, they just get the same memo. I mean, oh, it's just, he took a horse dewormer, right? Like it's not approved for use in people and all that. Didn't get the Nobel Prize for medicine, right? Because of all of this. So we are currently going through this process of what if we navigate something incredibly complicated with pure propaganda how's that going to go how's that going to go and then what will happen is because people can't see what's coming and they can't get any kind of new one to debate or any kind of real information what happens is we end up learning rather than through reason person and evidence and debate we end up learning through horrible bitter traumatic experience and that's the price that's the price you know it's like everybody's had you ever hit me with a wife you've had a guy or a girl in your life and they're just they're dating the wrong person.
[26:11] They're they're dating the wrong person and you can see it coming man you can see it coming and you you you sit down and and you reason with them and you tell them and you fight with them. Have you had someone like this? I mean, you've probably been one of these people too at one point. I know I have at one point or another, right? But you sit there and say, look, I mean, she's pretty, she's smart, she's funny, but man, let me tell you, this is what I've noticed. This is what I've noticed. It's like that old test. What is it in some Chas Palminteri movie?
[26:39] Man, that guy was in a lot of movies. You ever noticed that? I saw him once being interviewed and he was in like three movies, right? So he was in a movie theater and you know three of movie trailers came up with chas palminteri in any of them right and the guy ahead of him turned to his wife and said oh my god there's chas palminteri this guy is everywhere chas palminteri tapped the guy's shoulder and leaned forward and said you got a problem with that that's pretty fun so in chas palminteri movie bronx tale or something like that it's the um the door lock test right so what you do is you go and you you go around you open up the passenger door. This is before automatic doors. You have to lift the locks.
[27:18] You go open the passenger door and then you walk around to your side and you go and open your door. Now, if after you open her door and she goes and sits in the car, she leans over and she unlocks your door, then she's a keeper. She's thoughtful, she's considerate and so on. But if she just checks her face in the mirror or does her lipstick or just stares out blankly and doesn't open your door, you drop her, you dump her. That's it, right? Because she's kind of self-absorbed and doesn't notice that other people need things and is a taker, not somebody who's into sort of mutual things. So if you've ever...
[27:45] Said to someone, don't date this person, it's not going to work, right? They either listen to you or they don't listen to you. But at least you've had the conversation, which clears your conscience if and when, as usually when, things go bad. So right now, we're going through the most complicated set of decision matrices that the world has ever seen. I genuinely believe this. We've got new technology. We've got a potentially man-made or depend or or um gain of function enhanced virus we have uh competing interests of uh disparate individuals and concentrated economic actors like um pharmaceutical companies versus like all the small businesses that are going through hell right we have um the issue of spending versus saving we have the issue of herd immunity through natural antibodies versus doses, vaccines. It's the most complicated thing that we have to navigate that I've ever seen in my entire life or that I can ever imagine throughout human history. There has never been such a complicated, wild set of variables that need to be thoroughly dissected and discussed in the public square. And of course, we have governments that, I mean, the governments do have people in them, of course, that want to help prevent suffering and so on. And we also have the complicated question of suffering now versus suffering later.
[29:10] Suffering now versus suffering later. Now for men, it's easy. It's easy. You just sacrifice the men, like there's no now versus later. But because this involves women a lot, right, the older women, older people, often female, and so on, then you can't sacrifice now for gains later. With men, you can, right? With men, you can kill tens of millions of men in the Second World War to prevent the spread of national socialism or whatever, I don't know, whatever you would say about that war. And it's like, well, yeah, tens of millions of people, tens of millions of men were killed, but at least you're not speaking German, right? Okay. But we don't have a society where we can ever sacrifice women, right? Which is why you can't end the welfare state. It's why you can't end old age pensions. It's why you can't end socialized medicine. Because that would be to to sacrifice women for the sake of some future goal or gain. You can only do that with men. I mean, we just, we are white knighting and that's just built into us. It's baked in. You can talk about it till you're blue in the face or red pills in the face. It doesn't matter. We're not sacrificing women. And that's the way things go. That's why Elizabeth Theranos will probably do pretty well coming out of this. Cause she's got pregnant and now she's a victim. She was abused by Sunny Balwani or whatever. His name is the Pakistani businessman. So, so you, you.
[30:31] And it really is, it's kind of unfortunate in a way, right? So it's kind of unfortunate that the 26th, sorry, the 2020 election happened right before COVID, right? And in fact, it occurred when COVID was likely had been circulating for months. They can find COVID all the way back to late summer 2020 in various places. Italy, I think, is one of them. um so what's unfortunate is that free speech took a massive curb stomp kneecap to the groin because of the 2020 election it's why people got de-platformed and people got silenced and people got you know whatever right got attacked and so unfortunately and this is just one of these sad pitiful coincidences in history unfortunately what happened was free speech took It's almost impossible to recover from body blows right before COVID. And so the mechanisms were already in place. The process was already in place. The momentum was already in place to silence dissent. And then the most complicated thing that has ever happened in the world that needs the most discussion possible in order to remotely come to a wise decision.
[31:39] Because of the 2020 election and the silencing of conservative voices in particular. And conservative often equals Christian and Christian often equals skepticism if not downright hostility to any mRNA manipulation or gain-of-function research or anything like that because you can't improve, as I said in an earlier video, you can't improve on what God has done. So the idea that you would mRNA yourself to artificially produce spike proteins or that you would do gain-of-function research on bad coronaviruses would be like, no, that's unholy, that's like satanic, that is so wrong, it can't ever be made right, the site of hell.
[32:14] So, unfortunately, the people who would be the most skeptical about the path that's currently been taken were all yeeted and pushed off social media and attacked and deplatformed and slandered and lied about and bullied and fired or whatever it is, right? So, that's just bad luck to a large degree. I mean, it's why you don't de-platform and why you don't kill freedom of speech is now the society we're navigating like a pinball in some random bouncing zero gravity pinball machine from hell, because we just don't have the free speech that we need to get a multiplicity of perspectives.
[32:48] I mean, it's funny because they always talk about diversity. Does everyone in the room look like you and think like you? No, you need to get different thinking there. It's like, but that's not, I mean, that's such a lie on the left, right? Right? So we're trying to navigate the most complicated set of variables and interests and costs and benefits that society has ever, ever, ever had to face. Certainly it's very different. Society has never locked down for pandemics before. And in fact, the plans for pandemics never involved locking down.
[33:18] So right now, the reason you don't get rid of free speech is because when you need it, you really need it. And we really, really did need free speech for the pandemic. We really desperately needed free speech for the pandemic, but because of the 2020 election, the process had already undergone to limit and destroy people. And it's not just people like me who were gone. We were the smoking craters that gets everyone else in line, right? So it wasn't like, well, some people would de-platform, but everyone wasn't. No, no. You understand? understand, everybody with a brain was deplatformed from their own integrity. Everybody with a brain was, it wasn't just me. I was just a visible thing, right? That's like saying there's a sniper in a mall. Well, he only shot one guy. So everyone else is just going to go about their business normally. It's like, no, they won't, right? The moment you shoot a guy in a mall, everybody just scatters and they hide under displays and, you know, they flee the mall and, right? They scream And they, you know, because one person gets taken out and.
[34:20] You know, I remember when we had some bantam chickens, you know, and they were out roaming around because they just hated staying in their coop and they were out there for a couple of months. And then a hawk just grabbed one. Now, the other one didn't just sit there and say, well, I guess I'll just keep feeding on crickets in the grass. He's like bolted for the trees, right? So everybody got deplatformed, you understand? Everybody. And you know this, and I know this, and anybody out there on social media knows that because of the example of people like me, or people like Alex Jones, or people like Milo, or whatever, right, that everybody got deplatformed because nobody can speak freely anymore.
[34:58] Nobody. Because of us, right? And, well, because of what was done to us. Yes. So that's why you have this principle thing called free speech. But you have to defer the gratification of having the satisfaction of silencing your enemy. Having the satisfaction of silencing your enemy by threatening or deplatforming them is low IQ, short term thinking that has led to the current disasters that we face in the world. Right and of course i made the case for free speech for 15 long years just about every month i'd do something on free speech and in the absence of free speech you're still driving you understand you can't stop driving because things are always happening in the world in the absence of free speech you're still driving you're just blindfolded or i guess it's sort of like everyone has this weird nightmare i'm sure if you've ever driven that that the the hood of your car or the bonnet I think they call it. The hood of your car comes popping up and you then have to, you know, crane your head out and try and drive that way. Right. So, yeah. And what's happened since coronavirus is that we are now going triple the speed limit. Right. So we're blindfolded and we triple the speed limit. And what can I tell you? For those who can see that we're blindfolded, it's terrifying. For those who can't, it's like, well, everything seems fine. What's the problem? We're moving. We haven't crashed yet. Well, now we might be hitting some speed bumps, right?
[36:22] So being able to defer gratification, I did find my way back to my original thought.
[36:26] Being able to defer gratification, which is foundational to free speech, I refuse to silence my enemies because I might end up in a situation where there's a pandemic and we don't have free speech and we have to navigate according to propaganda, which is generally terrible, right? And...
[36:45] So, to defer gratification is the essence of maturity. And what you have to do as a parent is you have to nurture along your child's capacity to defer gratification kind of slowly. You don't want to accelerate it. Accelerating it is do what I say or I'll hit you, right? And that's like you don't learn how to defer gratification. You just learn how to avoid being hit, avoid pain at the moment.
[37:10] And same thing with the naughty steps or timeouts the same thing with confiscations or no food or going to bed early or whatever it's like you're not teaching the child to defer gratification you're simply teaching the child to avoid negative consequences in the moment which will have them grow up being triggered right being triggered because then something negative happens to them they've never learned how to handle it because they've always avoided it by avoiding punishment it overwhelms and then they short circuit and they get aggressive if not downright violent, So the children who've matured too soon are the children who've given up on attempting to gain gratification, right? They've not learned how to defer gratification. They've simply given up on trying to gain gratification. So you think of the older sibling from a dysfunctional family that has to take care of three younger siblings from the age of 11 onwards. They've just given up trying to have a life. They just take care of their siblings. They make them food. They play with them. They keep them safe. They take them to the park. They're just the mini mom, right? It's a total, total pillaging of the childhood by the irresponsible parents slash parents. But it's not like they've learned to defer gratification. They've just given up on gratification. So they look mature, but they end up horribly depressed. All right. Chaz did a stage show for Bronx Tale it was amazing yeah good action good action, alright.
[38:37] What did somebody say about the YouTubey.
[38:42] Isn't it more accurate to say YouTube was corrupt from the start no I wouldn't say so I had 10 glorious years on YouTube 10 glorious years well not quite 10 But 10 or 11 glorious years on YouTube, so.
[38:58] No, see, it's not correct. See, when YouTube was small, and people didn't know how powerful it was going to become, and I don't mean to sort of pat myself on the head too much, but people other than like, at the moment, I saw, I wrote about how powerful, here's a funny thing. So I wrote a novel that I finished six or seven years before YouTube even existed, where I talked about how powerful it was going to be to, oh no, yeah, certainly long before YouTube existed. I can't remember the specifics because I'm old, but I wrote a novel called The God of Atheists, and you can get it at fdrurl.com forward slash TGOA. That's free domain radio, fdrurl.com forward slash TGOA for The God of Atheists. And in The God of Atheists, long before there was video transmissible on the internet, I said, I had a character who would give incredible speeches on camera and then broadcast them over the internet. And it was an incredibly powerful thing that changed people's lives. And this is like long before anything like this was possible on the web. So, I mean, the moment that YouTube came along, I'm like, I'm in, I'm in, I'm in. And I very vividly remember doing my first YouTube video on concept formation.
[40:17] So, when YouTube was small and nobody really got how powerful it was going to become, the corrupt people were doing other things, right? So the people who wanted to control the narrative were busy in newspapers and television studios and Hollywood and TV and blah, they were doing all that, theater, playwrights, directors, funders, whatever, right? But then when YouTube and Twitter and other began to really take shape and began to really influence and affect things, then they had to jump out of the legacy media and into the new media, because that's where the narrative now had to be controlled, right? And that was really evident to the left after 2016, right? So, do, do, do, do, do, you can leave your hat on. All right.
[41:09] Any advice on how to talk to the un-woke people you want to protect? So far, it's zero out of a hundred. Un-awake people. Sorry, un-woke. Un-awake people. Look, everybody has their own decisions to make about this. So when I tell you my particular decision, just as usual, it's just a description of like, I had eggs. Doesn't mean you've got to eat eggs, right?
[41:32] But you have to, I say it's my opinion that I say you have to. I've said in my mind, I caught myself there, sorry, for slipping into slightly authoritarian speech. My apologies. So for me, I honestly, I swear to God, I think about this every night, every night, at some point during the night, you know, I'm over 50, so I got to wake up to pee. But every night I'll think, okay, what's my relationship to the people in the mainstream? What's my relationship there what is my relationship to people because i used to do massive reach outs right i would just constantly try to expand the reach to reach more people to get more wisdom out into the world i was constantly trying to reach out and spread philosophy and so on right i don't really do that anymore which is why i'm on these platforms and i could still try but i don't, particularly want to so for me i sort of had to make a decision point and it's a tough decision point.
[42:34] And the decision point is, do I continue to put myself at risk to attempt to change the minds of people who have a diminishing capacity to reason? Or do I work on protecting those around me, myself, and the people I care for, including you guys?
[42:58] Where do my loyalties lie?
[43:03] Where do my loyalties lie? If you take an example of someone like Joe Biden, you know, his entire family life and his kids are, like, beyond disastrous. They make Eminem's kids look like my kid. And so, you know, he's out there fixing the world, saving the world, running politics, running whatever, and his whole family life is a disaster. And again, I wrote a whole novel about this called Revolutions, and you can get that, I don't know what the price of Ethereum is these days, but you can go if you want to freedomainnft.com, spend a little bit of money, get the ebook. I wrote an entire novel about this. Do you try and save the world or do you make the world a better place within your own community? Do you go into big abstract arguments, political revolutions and blah, blah, blah, or do you just try and make the world a better place within your own community and.
[43:59] Do you change the world by drawing lines and org charts Or do you change the world by raising Happy and moral children It was a big decision for me in my 20s As you can imagine So, As far as going to wake Wake people up, The only time that You can really wake people up in my opinion Is before they've, Made an irreversible commitment, So, you can wake people up to the dangers of a relationship, but not once they're pregnant, right? Not once they're married. Then they're committed. Now, once people, this is the way most people work, right? They get talked into something and then they justify it. Exposed factor, right? so.
[44:58] I remember there was a girl in my junior high, I was going to ask her out on a date. And my friends found out I wanted to ask some girl out on a date, they wanted to know who it was. And she was very pretty, but she was not a very nice person.
[45:12] And I still remember her name even now. So much so funny, like more than 40 years later. And so i said i was going to ask her out and my friends kind of rolled their eyes and said why would you ask her out and i said oh her personality and right then she did this braying horse laugh and swore violently on the other side of the classroom right and people just looked at me like oh yeah it's her personality uh please tell me more about her fine personality and it was kind of humiliating because, you know, I wanted to, I was attracted to her physically and I wanted her to be an interesting and nice person, but clearly she wasn't. And I just had to justify my attraction by making up some virtues that she didn't possess. In fact, quite the opposite, right? So of course I didn't end up asking her out because it was too embarrassing and my friends and her kind of helped me and all of that. So here's what people do. You talk them into something or somebody talks them into something and then they will justify it because nobody wants to sit there and say, well, I was just weak and I went with the flow and I didn't think for myself and And I got herded into whatever decision I made. And, right, so, you know, if you say to your friends, you know, maybe you should think of homeschooling your kids and they decide not to, then what are they going to say? Are they going to say, well, you know, negative things happen to my kids' self-esteem and happiness, but I got free babysitting, right? No, they're going to say, well, you know, homeschool kids are weird. And, you know, this, of course, has become a little tougher now, right?
[46:39] And, you know, my kids love their friends and they don't want to miss their friends. You know okay well so they'll they'll just justify things so when it comes to you know do you talk about potential theoretical whatever negative outcomes from vaccination do you talk about that with someone who's vaccinated i don't see why i don't see why, I don't see why. I mean, they can't get unvaccinated. It's the old saying when I was a kid, you made your bed, now you've got to lie in it. You've chosen where you're going to sleep, now you've got to sleep there. If you say to a woman, he's a bad guy, and then she decides to have unprotected sex with him, and now she's pregnant with his baby, what's there left to say? Once people have committed, it. Once you can't just rewind, what are you going to say? That they're going to listen to, that's going to make any sense of them whatsoever. What are they going to say? What are you going to say? So, you're batting zero out of a hundred.
[47:54] That's inevitable, I would say. That's natural. That's life.
[47:59] You've got to get people before they commit. Once they're committed, I mean, you could say to somebody, let's say they want to sign up to go and fight in Afghanistan, or let's say you've got a time travel and founder. Look, it took 20 years for them to...
[48:17] Oh man, that's brutal. I just, the thought popped into my head. It took the American government 20 years to produce gain-of-function Taliban. Because they now have massive, superior, incredible weaponry. It took the American government 20 years to produce gain-of-function Taliban, so you can talk to someone maybe it's not a great idea to go into the army for this particular battle or whatever but once they're in what are you going to say once they're in and they're committed they're signed up you know if somebody says I want to buy this house and you say I don't think it's a good house to buy it, bad neighborhood it looks structurally unsound blah blah blah, so they don't listen to you they go buy the house what are you going to say, are you going to come over every time Thomas, I had told you not to buy this house. This house is bad. Look, you got robbed, and now you've got a balcony that's half collapsed, and blah, right? If people don't listen to wisdom, what do you say to them on the other side? I don't know. You say to someone, you shouldn't smoke, man. You should exercise more and don't get fat, right? And then they keep smoking, they get fat, they don't exercise, and they end up with lung cancer and heart disease or whatever, right?
[49:27] Once people have committed, their free will massively diminishes for better and for worse, right? So I'll give you an example. When I started the show, I first wrote my first article in 2005. I went full-time, I think 2006, 2007, something like that. And within a year, you know, the mainstream media was labeling me a cult leader and all this kind of stuff, right? And so I had I had the choice to return to my business career until I was slandered in this way, right?
[50:02] Once I was slandered in this way, man, it was like God's finger saying it's time to commit. I'm not saying God's index finger either. But yeah, it's time to commit. You have to commit. There's no turning back. There's no turning back. back so i had the choice to return to my business career until i didn't because anytime i would go for a job people would do their google searches or the whatever searches they'd hear this i wouldn't like there was no turning back right so i was committed so once you are committed whether that's because of your own internal dedication or something that happens externally once you're committed your free will has if i mean that's the whole point of commitment is to kill free will where it's superfluous i know this sounds kind of odd but think of it in terms of marriage right, my wife and i we wrote our vows we looked into each other's eyes and we said we're together forever forsaking all others better or worse sickness and health you know the standard thing So I no longer have the choice to date. I no longer have the choice to have romantic affairs with other women. So in my marriage vows, I gave up my free will. My commitment eliminated the free will where it was now superfluous.
[51:26] When you decide to become a parent, you are now giving up your free will. Once you have a baby, you are giving up your free will to not be a parent. You no longer have the choice to not be a parent. Now, some of these choices are conditional. In other words, I could choose to have an affair. Never will, but I could. And others are, I can never choose to be a non-parent, right? You know, it didn't never happen. Even if you end up giving up your kid for adoption, you're still a parent. You're just a parent in biology rather than activity.
[51:58] So, when I decide to do a live stream today, I decide to do this live stream today. Hi, very nice to chat with you. I decide to do this live stream today. We've been cooking for what? Yeah, 52 minutes. So, for 52 minutes, as far as you know, I haven't peed myself. yourself. But no, I mean, so for 52 minutes and for the remaining time of this, we'll go another little while. I'm not doing anything else. I've given up my free will to do everything else because I'm committed to this live stream. See this all the time. You commit to a job, you commit at least not to usually start looking for another job right away, right? You rent a car, you commit to paying for it. You order a meal in a restaurant, you commit to, you no longer have the choice to not pay for that meal. Like you no longer have the choice to not give money to the restaurant because you ordered the meal, right? You understand, you buy a house, you've got a mortgage, you've now, you've taken away your free will to not pay for that house, right? So commitment is the elimination of choice. And you know, you choose to get vaccinated, you can now no longer get unvaccinated. So you are now vaccinated and there's no undoing it, right? So commitment is the elimination of choice. And what you're trying to do is you're trying to bring choice back to people who've eliminated it through commitment.
[53:17] Right? If a woman believes that the father is essential for the healthy development of a child, and she has a child with a guy, even if you think he's a bad guy, she's had the child now because of her belief that the father is necessary, she will try and find a way to make it work out. Doesn't mean it will, but she'll certainly try and find a way.
[53:34] She's had the child, the father is necessary, therefore I will work things out with the father. That's your, right there, right? That's your, that's the reality. So she doesn't really have free will in that moment because she's committed to having a child and having a father in the child's life so what choice is she can she just take off the timbuktu i don't know because because her values also do this as well right morals are the elimination of free will right thou shalt not bail false witness which is my foundational commandment, means i'm not going to look at you guys and lie lie. Or look away and lie, or lie in general, right?
[54:16] If you have a commitment to respect property rights, you have eliminated your free will to steal, right? So, commitments, morality, life, it's all about eliminating superfluous free will, because otherwise we get option paralysis, right? Otherwise we get option paralysis. And everybody's had this option paralysis, It's like too many choices, too many choices. So, yeah, so talk to unawake people you want to protect. It depends. Can you talk to somebody who works for the government about moral problems with the source of government funds? You can, but it's all abstracted theoretical. It's not going to quit their job. Can you talk to someone who just won the lottery saying, ah, you know, it's really based on taxation and it doesn't allow for competition. He's going to cash the lottery ticket, man. So you've got to pick your battles to people who still have free will, who are not committed in a particular way that's usually irreversible.
[55:15] I have recurring nightmares about driving. In my nightmares, the brakes and steering don't work and I crash. Right. Well, that's funny because I just used that analogy where we are in society without free speech, right? That means that you are lacking important feedback in your life. If you have too many people who agree with you or who don't protect you and watch your blind spots. So sorry, a lot of questions. You must have ducks, no argument. All right.
[55:51] Do you think it's possible for polyamorous marriages to ever work out well? If so, what would need to happen to make that work? Okay, polyamorous marriages are narcissistic, selfish bullshit that destroys society. Okay, I'm going to be straight up with you on this one, and I'm going to tell you the startling conclusion, and then I'll tell you how I get there. So a polyamorous marriage is when you prefer sexual variety over the quality of life for your children why does marriage exist why does sex exist why does attraction and love and pair bonding exist it all exists for the betterment of children children are best way raised in a monogamous two-parent household.
[56:34] Period that that the data is clear there's no ambiguity there's there's not even a close second place, a pair-bonded, two-parent household is the best and safest and most productive and healthy environment to raise children where, of course, one of the parents stays home. That's it. And there's not even a close second, right? You have one unrelated male in the mix, like the single mom has some boyfriend move in, the children over 30 times, 30 times more likely to be abused, okay? So, divorced kids, we all know the mess, the chaos, the dysfunction, the addiction, the compulsive sexuality, the drug use, the smoking, all of it, right? The criminality, the criminality, my God, right? They are selected, right? So that's what marriage is. That's what sex is, at least in European culture or whatever, right? So the reason you have a penis or a vagina, the reason you have a sex drive, the reason you enjoy orgasm, is all to create and protect children. That's it. That's the only reason it exists.
[57:41] Say, oh, well, what about you've had kids and you're too old to have kids? Well, then it's for pair bonding. I get all of that. That's fine. Sex is not just for the creation of kids. It's also for pair bonding.
[57:50] But look, you want to take an institution for two people and the protection of children, and you want to twist and turn and corrupt it in order to serve your own porn-stache, weird-oiled, hairy-chested, Ron Jeremy hellscape of porn fantasy. No, absolutely not. That's like bringing a stripper to a children's party it is weird beyond words and inappropriate beyond words look if you want to go and just have some weird twisted tripod relationship fine don't talk about marriage don't talk about you just you're just having some weird kinky ass depressed person low self-esteem all i have to offer is tits and ass or cock and balls that's That's what you're doing. And I think it's tragic. I think it's very sad. You know, if you love someone, why on earth would you want to share them? Why? Why on earth would you want to share them? I love my wife. I don't want other guys around her, you know, who aren't just friends or whatever, right? No. God, no. Because here's the thing, too, right?
[58:59] We pair bond on sexuality, whether we like it or not, and trying to pair bond three-way can't work. Can't work. It's like trying to use scotch tape, like double-sided tape to stick three things together. It's just unstable and it won't ever work. You're taking the pair bonding mechanism designed to create a secure and safe place for children to be happily raised, and you're just turning it to your own R-selected, creepy, squirt-and-dump, Corruption. And this doesn't mean it's unrecoverable. You know, you can figure out whatever early sexual trauma produced this mindset in you. But no, it is not what it is for at all. At all.
[59:46] It's like pretending you're an airplane by flapping your wings. Like it's just going to hurt you and hurt others. So no. They're bad. Oh, and here's the thing, too. Who knows who the kids are, right? Polyamory didn't develop because you need male investment in children, and with polyamory, a man can't tell that the child is his, right? Remember, we all evolved in places where we were genetically similar, so you couldn't tell if the child was yours, and lack of parental investment results in destructive, lack of paternal investment, lack of father investment in children is absolutely disastrous for them as a whole. And so the reason why you have pair bonding and monogamy and punishment for affairs and so on is because it's mama's baby and daddy's maybe so if you were going to say well we'll just have a commune and we'll raise the children collectively it's like okay you want to fuck a lot of people and you don't care that it fucks up your kids that's i mean just be honest you want to fuck a lot of people and you couldn't fucking care less that it screws up your children beyond belief.
[1:00:44] Okay. You just, that's a terrible, terrible thing. That's a terrible, to ruin children for the sake of your own shallow lusts, to ruin the environment for children, to have children without pair bonding with their parents, without paternal investment, to end up with all of that stuff. People say, oh, well, what if I'm in my fifties and it's past kids? It's like, okay, but then it's nothing to do with marriage. Then marriage, marriage is for kids. Marriage is pair hair bonding for kids. Yeah, you can use it, but so what? A bike can use the road. For cars, it doesn't mean it's built for the bike. It just means you can kind of hijack it, right? And you can ride along, right?
[1:01:28] Rights. Well, you know, people are learning about the state now, right? People are learning. The law is an opinion with a gun. Taxation is force. The government is violence right these are all standard definitions in any sane society and see what's happening now is the government power is not being deferred anymore right so government power is deferred that that's the only way that it can work right so what do they do they uh take your money, and then they used it as collateral to borrow more money and then they return to you what seems like more money than you gave them, right? So the government power is deferred because you're gaining more benefits, particularly for women, you're gaining more benefits out of the state than you pay to the state. So it looks like, it really, really looks like the government is not exercising its power. It's the equivalent of you hand someone 10 bucks and they hand you, oh, somebody steals 10 bucks from you and then gives you 20 bucks. You're like, oh, hey, I'm fine with that theft now. So government power is deferred through debt in general.
[1:02:34] But government power in the age of COVID That's not deferred So people are beginning to understand What the government is now.
[1:02:44] All right. Last question or two. Vaccinated people are terribly aggressive when I tried to talk about vaccines. Well, look, I mean, from the vaccinated perspective, and again, may be true. May be true. Evidence is not piling up that way, but it may be true. For the vaccinated people, they believe in the mainstream narrative that they could have gone, everyone could have gone back to normal, except for you selfish, unvaccinated people. You weird, selfish, dangerous, consuming resources assholes, you just go get the jab, for God's sakes. It's simple, it's easy, it's free, your resistance is costing us our liberties, our futures, our healthcare, you know, my grandma can't get a hip replacement because you won't take a safe and effective jab. I mean, I have no idea what to say to that perspective, right? I hope they're right. it. And I also tell you this, if the people who've raised massive concerns about the vaccines turn out to be wrong, I will never forgive them. I would never forgive them because they're causing a huge amount of conflict in society. All right. All right. What have we got here?
[1:04:00] Did you know Arthur Miller, American playwright, married to Marilyn Monroe? She converted to Judaism for him, I think. He had an autistic child that he just dumped in an orphanage and never really saw again. It's just pretty wild, right? It's pretty wild. And he was on the left, right? Heavily traveled with communists and all that. So, you know, you got to be there for the least fortunate. Oh, I have an autistic kid. Dump him in an institution. I'll never see him again.
[1:04:33] Kind of inevitable, right? This kind of stuff, right? I deeply hate people that are polyamorous. So, look, I don't hate them. I know I was pretty harsh. That was really just to shock people.
[1:04:44] What I don't like about the polyamory stuff, and I remember having a guy who called in many years ago, gosh, probably 12 years ago, who called in, and you can look at it at fdrpodcast.com. The search engine is fantastic these days, and thank you so much to everyone working on that. But you can do a search for polyamory. I had a big debate about this 12 years ago.
[1:05:04] I don't hate them for being into this creepy lifestyle, but what I do hate is that they praise it. That it's like, well, you know, I guess I'm just more secure in that I can share my woman and know that she'll always come back. Or, you know, I'm just not bound into this Christian monogamy stuff. I guess I'm just a bit more open-minded. And like, it's the same thing with the fucking drug addicts, right? The weed addicts and so on. It's like, no, you're addicted to a mind numbing substance to manage the effects of childhood trauma usually. I mean, okay, I sympathize with that. And if they say, I'm addicted to weed because I don't know any other way to feel happy and relaxed, massive sympathy, huge sympathy. And if you say, I'm drawn to this polyamory lifestyle because I was sexually abused as a child and pair bonding is terrifying, and I don't feel I'll ever be enough for anyone and they're going to leave me anyway, so I might as well have competition at the beginning. If they say that, God, that's honest and massive sympathy. But if they built this whole thing with the weed people, it's like, hey, it's just an herb, man, don't be so uptight, open your mind, explore, Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds, Cheech and Chong, they're fun.
[1:06:12] Then it's just like, we're just unfortunately their enemies. Because if somebody says, I'm a weed addict because I'm self-medicating to avoid processing childhood trauma, then at least they're saying to people, it's not a good thing that I'm doing, right? Not a good thing that I'm doing.
[1:06:34] They don't create this, like smokers don't create this usually, they used to, but now they don't create this whole culture around how cool smoking is, right? The same thing with drinkers can happen, right? So at least they're honest, right? So by honest, they're not drawing other people into the wet. But if people are like, oh, polyamory is cool and healthy and hip and open-minded and confident and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
[1:06:57] Well, then they're drawing other people in, right? So they're drawing other people into this kind of sick lifestyle that harms children. Again, do what you want. I don't care. But if you're going to have kids into this environment, it's really terrible for them. It's really terrible for them. So I don't hate the people who are polyamorous. I don't hate the people who are addicted to marijuana. I have a great deal of sympathy for both. But when they turn it into a plus, when they're now recruiters to their ideology and lifestyle, when they're recruiters, that's when we have less of a conciliatory thing that's going on. Oh look at this my new camera is going for an hour plus i guess i just can't do it at 60 frames a second because it overheats and it's not like this is desperately needed to be at 60 frames a second right let's see here my friend got me a gift made made by her stepdad it was a music collection cd that contained i want to fuck you by acorn for my seventh birthday my parents were Furious. It's amazing how obvious some creeps are, right?
[1:08:05] Alright.
[1:08:17] Rights yeah uh huh you shouldn't be Oh, I'm slowly catching up with the comments.
[1:08:25] Alright.
[1:08:32] Uh, Steph, what do you think? Let me just, uh, sorry, my computer's a little far away from my eyeballs. These are my distance glasses. My very first set of glasses. They used to be my reading glasses. Then time. All right, Steph, what do you think of this definition of doing good? If doing good is satisfying your own interests and living virtuously without violating UPB, then you're generally most likely to be better off in terms of resources. You're generally most likely to be happier and more satisfied. You're generally most likely or more likely to have better health, greater survivability, and better reproductive opportunities.
[1:09:17] See the moment you're talking generally you're not talking philosophy anymore, as a whole if doing good is satisfying your own interest in living virtuously without violating upb so without violating upb yes universally preferable behavior you can't violate that and be good but not violating it doesn't mean that you're good right so you can be a guy who who doesn't violate UPB, but cheats on his wife. Cheating on your wife is aesthetically negative behavior, but it's not a violation of UPB, because you're not initiating the use of force. You can say, ah, but it's a kind of fraud, and so on, blah, blah, blah. But lying to someone is not a violation of UPB. If you ask me that it's raining up here, and it is raining, and I say, no, it's not raining, I've not violated UPB. Lying to people, aesthetically negative behavior. you. But lying to someone is not forcefully imposing your will upon them.
[1:10:14] You're not forcefully opposed to your will upon them. So it is not a violation of UPB to lie to someone. Now, if you sign a contract, and again, whether the wedding vows are contracts or not, it's a different matter, right? But let's just say the way it is right now. If you sign a contract and then you violate that contract, then you are stealing because you've made a commitment to pay $1,000. You don't pay the $1,000, then you've just stolen whatever value that you've gotten. So it's a violation of thou shalt not steal. It's a violation of property rights. It can't be universalized, right? Because if everyone can just sign contracts and break contracts, there would be no such thing as contracts to sign or break. And of course, you are relying upon, let's say somebody says, I'll send you an iPad, you send me 500 bucks, and I send them 500 bucks, I'm assuming that they're going to fulfill their contract, right? So if my value is contracts should be fulfilled, then not fulfilling my $500 to pay for it is a violation, right? So can't be universalized.
[1:11:08] It so and i you know here's the thing man you know the christians got this right i mean being good fucking sucks for the most part certainly in society in your own life being good is great you know having virtue being honest having integrity in your own life fan fucking tastic in the world it's a total ass-eating shit storm it's just fucking hurricane and tsunami of shit every day, in general, in the world. Again, I'm not talking about this community, I'm not talking about my own life, but it's a veil of tears. You know, the general Christian theology, Satan runs the world.
[1:11:46] You're screwed in society if you try and do good. It's what Socrates said, right? He said, I never went into public affairs because if you ever come between politicians and what they want, they'll just destroy you, right? The world is generally run by evildoers, and being good is like being a mammal at the feet of dinosaurs. You can't ever take them on directly. You've got to be nimble. You've got to dig burrows. You've got to have your kids in secret and silence, and you've got to move away whenever they come about. You can't fight them. You can't fight them. I mean, the powers that be, are you kidding me? I mean, they control the media, they print the money, they control education, they control the universities, they control the minds of the people, they control the weaponry. I mean, come on. There's no combat there. There's no combat there. No combat. It's just suicide. Don't break the law. Don't do anything violent. Don't initiate the use of force.
[1:12:34] So when you say oh you know being good is is going to make your life better it's like well it make your personal life better but as far as society goes it's the mark of kane are you kidding me are you kidding me doing good in society is going to make you what did you say here, you're going to be better off in terms of resources Horses? Yeah, well, talk about all the people who are getting deplatformed, right? You're most likely to be more happy or more satisfied. Well, again, virtue in your personal life? Fantastic. Virtue in public? Really fucking dangerous, okay? You're generally more likely to have better health, greater survivability, and better reproductive opportunities.
[1:13:19] Really? Can you prove that? And don't bribe people with what you can't provide, or don't offer to people what you can't pay. I don't agree with that necessarily. Better health, look at Steven Crowder. I mean, the guy, what, he's got 17 employees, produced like 9,000 hours of content a week and got really stressed. And I'm not saying the stress, I think he said he was doing too much, but I'm not saying that the stress caused him to become ill, I don't know. Know but you know he's a pretty pretty uh pretty blunt guy pretty forward-thinking guy and i mean he's got got rent right uh health-wise um.
[1:13:57] A lot of people who who do virtue in the public square and stand up for things in the public square and try to do good in the public square um you know end up in a pretty bad way let's go all the way back to Socrates, they end up in a pretty bad way. I mean, if you think I'm not guiding myself by historical examples, you're crazy, right? So I don't think that you can offer people happiness, health, virtue, longevity, reproductive success, and resources, without the caveat that virtue in your private life is generally very good for you. Virtue in in the public square is really fucking dangerous, right? So I think you've got to be frank with people, right? You don't, you know, sign people up to a metaphorical army and say it's going to be sunshine, roses, and snowboarding.
[1:14:57] All right. You're welcome for the feedback, Jared. Anytime. Crowder is recovering now. Yes, but didn't he have twins recently? So, you know, that's a pretty tough thing to parent when you're that unwell. I don't know where Eva's gone. All right.
[1:15:17] Even questioning vaccines in public makes people want to get you fired. Yeah, it can happen for sure. It can happen for sure. So, yeah, I mean, yeah, A virtue in the public square, you can't take on the powers that be directly. That's crazy. It doesn't work.
[1:15:36] All right. I will take a break here. I just wanted to thank everyone for dropping by. Don't forget, hey, camera lasted. StephBot, be pleased.
[1:15:44] I now have three cameras on me, right? So I have this webcam, which I use for the live stream, but the webcam can't record, so I need that for later, right? I have a phone here that's recording as a backup to the camera that's over there that I thought might not make it so because I kind of like the camera color it's kind of nice so all right thanks everyone so much a real pleasure to chat with you if you're listening to this later free domain dot locals dot com you can also go to free domain dot com forward slash donate to help out the show I would really really appreciate it cool to see one of these happen looking forward to further iterations yeah I wanted to try the um live streamy thing on uh and did it come through okay just hit me with a y if if it seemed to be fairly fluid um and not too stuttery and and the audio came through okay does that seem is this way better is this better than d live yeah smoothie smooth yes okay great maybe we'll give that a try for tonight then so same bad time same bad channel we'll try 7 p.m tonight and that way i can listen to you guys and we can have a chat and have Have yourself a lovely, lovely, delightful, pleasant afternoon. And lots of love from up here. Take care, my friends. Such a great pleasure to chat. Talk to you soon.
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