THE TRUE ORIGINS OF FEMINISM… - Transcript

Questions

Hey Stef, when evaluating people's love for me, can you elaborate on what exactly "their love for me" looks like?

You mentioned recently that you "had a long way to go" after asking us "what are the ways a woman shows a man she loves him?" and I found myself puzzling it out after.

If "love" is our involuntary response to virtue if we are virtuous, then our perception of love towards us would be: involuntary responses.

Which could include lust but would really be an entire lifetime of the woman's responses, given that we as the man are virtuous ourselves over that lifetime.

And I feel like I'm really close to circular reasoning in this definition, except, as a man, in being virtuous I would only be in a relationship with a similarly worshipful woman whose love "required" my own "involuntariness" towards her as well.

So what would your answer be to the question: how does a woman show a man that she love's him?

Bitcoin question.

Why aren't parallel economy businesses transacting in Bitcoin? Isn't transitioning onto Bitcoin the best thing we could be doing to divest from the federal reserve and defang the state? Is it just that people are stupid and don't get it? The only credible answer I can think of could be that it could be hard to do taxes maybe?

Hi stef, could you please expound on what is and isn't prostitution, relating to marriage ?

My friend's mom got pregnant by his bio-dad, then left him for an older guy who raised my friend.

She then divorced his new dad to sleep around and when she couldn't find a man who makes more money she came back to his dad.

Thank you.

Do you think it's beneficial in any way to keep kids innocent and naive as long as possible? For example, keeping the magic of Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy alive opposed to telling them they aren't real?

Given a family with a cowardly father and a domineering mother, do you think that this is a breeding ground for feminist daughters? I was on a date with a girl a while ago who told me that her mother was viciously verbally abusive towards her, but that her father was 'very supportive' of her, teaching her things like how to paint her nails. In a follow-up conversation, she told me that I was being disrespectful to women because I said I am not a feminist.

This is interesting to me because I have often heard it said that staunch feminist women often come from households where the father is actively abusive while the mother is cowardly. You can see this borne out in the early life of the feminist Shulamith Firestone. However, could the opposite scenario, where the mother is the actively abusive parent, produce a feminist for a different reason?

Her father had the power to intervene in the abuse but did nothing. My hypothesis is that in this woman's mind, with her father as evidence, men do not deserve the larger share of corporate, political, and cultural power they wield in the world because they are cowards who don't act to solve the world's problems (which she would define as racism, sexism, homophobia etc.). Therefore, feminism: "women need to occupy 50% of the positions in every power structure" presumably to act as a check on the power of men who are, in her view, derelict in their duties.

Additionally, given that her father did not use his position of power to protect his daughter, then in her mind there's no evidence that men have earned their power in the world; the only reason that men could have more power than women is because of a male conspiracy against women.

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[0:00] All right, a couple more Locals questions, freedomain.locals.com.
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Hey, Steph, when evaluating people's love for me, can you elaborate on what exactly their love for me looks like?
Ah, the exactly people. You mentioned recently that you, quote, have had a long way to go after asking us what are the ways a woman shows a man she loves him.
I don't know what that means. I don't remember saying that. So, you know, it's funny.
I mean, if something strikes you as important, it's part of basic empathy to know that it also might not strike the other person.
So if I said something in passing, you might want to give me some context.
You might want to give me a reference.
So some sentence that lands importantly for you is probably part of the, I don't know, tens of thousands of words I pump out every week.
So, you know, give me a little reference.
It won't kill you. And have the empathy of knowing that that, which is really significant to you, might be a passing comment for me.
And so I don't know in what context this is. I'm going to have to ignore that paragraph.
He says, if, quote, love is our involuntary response to virtue, if we are virtuous, then our perception of love towards us would be involuntary responses.
If love is our involuntary response to virtue, if we are virtuous, then our perception of love towards us would be involuntary responses.

[1:29] Yeah, don't go too fast, my friend. These are very complicated things, very challenging things.
The definition of love and virtue, these are all complicated things.
Don't go too fast. And don't make assumptions. And don't assume that I know what you're talking about. This is a general thing in terms of communication.
So you say, if love is our involuntary response to virtue, if we are virtuous, yes, that's my definition, definition then our perception of love towards us would be in involuntary responses, see now you're saying that love the experience of love and the experience of perception are the same things they're not obviously obviously they are this is what i mean like slow down slow your horses get your details right get your definitions right of course you can have perception uh without love right and you you can perceive a sunset you can perceive the smell of marijuana you can and perceive the taste of macaroons.

Differentiating Perception and Love

[2:26] And that's not love, right? Not romantic love, not this kind of love.
So you're saying if love is an emotional response to virtue, if we're virtuous, then the perception of love towards us would be involuntary.

[2:42] Well, I don't know about that.
So, you can admire someone as kind of like a moral superhero whose virtue vastly exceeds your own.
You're still virtuous, but they're super virtuous, right? So, maybe you're doing a little bit of good in the world, they're doing a whole lot of good in the world.
So, you will admire that person more, and will you experience that person's love for you?
Well, they will have some small amount of respect, maybe even a little bit of admiration for the smaller virtues that you're doing in the world.
But you'll have more positive experiences of them than they will of you because they're doing more virtue in the world right so they'll be uh further up like your affection or admiration for them would be a 10 and theirs for you might be a two or three so it might be tougher to to perceive so the idea that love is an involuntary response and therefore the experience of being Being loved is also an involuntary response.

[3:43] Yeah, I don't really see how that follows directly.
I mean, we could sort of make a case for it, but saying that the experience of love or the emotion of love is the same as the perception of being loved, I'm not sure. I'm not sure about that.
So, again, you kind of need to, when you're dealing with these complicated topics, like, here's the thing, I've got to tell you, I mean, I'm automatically annoyed.
It doesn't mean you're being annoying. I'm just automatically annoyed.
It doesn't mean that's good or bad. It could be an indication that these are really good questions.
What exactly their love for me looks like?

[4:22] Now, how on earth am I supposed to tell you exactly what your experience of being loved is?

The Complexities of Being Loved

[4:34] Come on, I don't know you, I don't know... Not everyone's experience of being loved is the same.

[4:40] So, how on earth am I supposed to tell you exactly what being loved looks like for you, right?
For women, being loved is sometimes experienced differently from men.
When you're older, being loved has a different character or quality than when you're younger. younger.
When you're younger, particularly as a male, being loved has a lot to do with, encouraging you to go out and conquer the world.
When you get old, the love has to do more with acceptance and an enjoyment of the world, that is, and the life that you've made and all of that.
So, I mean, it's complicated.
Love is a many splendid thing, right? Love isn't just one thing, right?
So, tell me exactly what it is for me to experience love through all phases of my life, not even knowing my gender tell me exactly i mean it's an impossible task and that means that the question bothers you right so when you when you annoy me that's almost always because i've annoyed you and you're kind of annoying me back so you're giving me this impossible task of telling you exactly what you being loved uh feels like and i don't i don't even really know what to say other than you should just be honest about being annoyed by something i said rather than setting up these elaborate complicated traps and so on anyway so he says um which could include lust.

[6:07] But would really be an entire lifetime of the woman's responses given that we as the man are virtuous ourselves over that lifetime okay so sorry you are male so you would have an involuntary response of being loved, which could include lust.

The Complexity of Love and Intimacy

[6:28] Um, so of course you can love people that you don't have sex with.
You can have sex with people you don't love and you can love people you have sex with.
So, uh, certainly a part of love is the celebration of sexual and romantic intimacy without a doubt.
Uh, so yeah, I'm, I'm fine. It could include lust, but would really be an entire lifetime of the woman's responses given that we as a man are virtuous ourselves over that lifetime. All right. I'm not, I don't know that's a given, but all right.
And he says, and I feel like I'm really close to circular reasoning in this definition, except as a man, sorry, I will do my glasses right, except as a man and being virtuous, I would only be in a relationship with a similarly worshipful woman whose love required my own involuntariness towards her as well.
So what would be your answer to the question, how does a woman show a man that she loves him?
I don't know, it's very complicated and kind of messy.
And I feel like I'm really close to circular reasoning in this definition, except as a man, in being virtuous, I would only be in a relationship with a similarly worshipful woman whose love required my own involuntariness towards her as well.
How does a woman show a man that she loves him?

Understanding Love: Being on the Receiving End

[7:51] I mean, I don't want to be one of these guys, like if you have to ask, it can't be explained to you. Like if you've not been loved by a woman, you're a man, right?
If you've not been loved by a woman, and you're asking me, how do you know if you're loved by a woman?
Well, first of all, the question is about being on the receiving end of love.
And if you want to be in love with someone, the first thing you want to do is be in the provision end of it, rather than the receiving end.
It's like saying, you know, what does it feel? It's like saying to a movie star, what does it feel like to be really famous?
Well, I mean, somewhat of an interesting question, but you can't really communicate it much. What you want to do is you want to, the movie star would say, well, first, the first thing you have to do is provide great value in some manner, artistically, right?
So as a movie actor, you have to provide great value to the point where you become sort of wealthy and famous.
So I think your question is, how do you know if a woman loves you?
Well i mean i hate to say you just know because that is not an empirical answer i mean and it's not a very satisfying answer there's certain there's a certain truth in it right like um, it's like saying how do you know when you've made it how do you know when you've when you're successful well it's a moving target and it changes as you go so but but.

[9:13] If you admire the woman and you possess qualities that are objectively admirable to virtuous people, then high regard is a certainty, right?
So I'll sort of break that out because I said, look, be slow and be patient, right?

[9:29] So, for instance, moral courage is an admirable quality for the virtuous.
It is a dreaded quality for the immoral, right? So if there's an evil person around and you have moral courage, they will hate and fear you.
And yet if you have moral courage and there's a virtuous person around, that person will respect that, right?
So, for instance, if you're with some girl and you see some parent yelling at a child and you go and confront the parent in a sort of positive and helpful and hopefully productive way, you go and confront that parent and you don't let it just slide, then of course if she herself is a child abuser or was then she's going to feel great anxiety hostility and tension around this matter because it's awakening her conscience but if she was the victim of child abuse or she's got great sympathy towards the victims of child abuse or she's you know just very very keen on this sort of moral courage stuff then when you display that moral courage then she will admire you for that and she will look at you with shining eyes she'll give you you a big hug.
She'll just tell you in very positive and almost gushing terms exactly how much she admires you for what you just did.
And she would just be enormously positive towards you.

[10:52] Now, that could be the birth of love. But when she tells you repeatedly that she loves you, and she through her actions she approves that love she she takes care of you she anticipates your needs she knows what you like she knows what you want she's willing to accommodate you she trusts you she's not jumpy she's not insecure she's not paranoid all of these things where there's a very strong pair bond she will show all of these things she will speak to you positively positively, she will speak about, she will speak to you positively, of course.
She will always give you the benefit of the doubt. And if she speaks to you to other people, then she will speak to you in a very sort of positive manner, and how much she admires you and so on, right?
So these are sort of the empirical things that occur.
She will shower you with affection, you know, hugs and kisses, and all of that kind of stuff. If you look, you know, little things like if you look tense, she'll often rub your neck.
And you know, all of this is mutual. I'm just talking about about being on the receiving end of these kinds of things.
And she, if there's something that is less of a burden for her than it is for you.

[12:04] Then she will take that on. Let's say you hate dealing with paperwork, and let's say she's okay dealing with paperwork.
Then she'll take that on to free you up for the stuff that you're good.
And again, all of this is mutual.
You do the same things back, but there's all of these kinds of positive things.
If she knows that you like a particular meal, she would just like to make it to make you happy.
And so, yeah, she's just really focused on making you happy, on admiring you and speaking positive to you.
You and she showers you with positive affection and high regard and invites your feedback and respects your authority in the areas you're better at things, just as you respect her authority in the areas that she's better at things.
And it's just a very, very positive thing all around. So I hope that helps.
And let's get to the next question.
Bitcoin question. Why aren't parallel economy businesses transacting in Bitcoin?
Isn't transitioning onto Bitcoin the best thing we could do, we could be doing to divest from the Federal Reserve and defang the state.
Is it just that people are stupid and don't get it? The only credible answer I can think of could be that it could be hard to do taxes maybe.

[13:11] Well, I mean, there are, of course, people operating on Bitcoin, but Bitcoin is not a currency.
I shouldn't say what it is or it isn't. I'll just tell you my particular thoughts and perspectives.
Perspectives in my perspective bitcoin is building the infrastructure and building the credibility and building the value that will have it become a currency later on and i've of course said this for many years because you know bitcoin is a little slow and and so on the bitcoin is probably not going to end up being unless the lightning network does its thing but bitcoin is probably not going to end up being coffee uh that's going to be some other coin it'll be tied into bitcoin in some way but it's a b2b right most of the economy is business to business and these are big transactions that take sometimes months to negotiate and right now the settlement days are the settlement is days at best and weeks uh uh probably so it doesn't matter that it's slow right if you're buying some company for a billion dollars it doesn't matter if it takes a couple of hours rather than a couple of seconds for the business transaction to go through so um bitcoin Bitcoin is largely, I think, being bought and held by people who anticipated it becoming a B2B currency in the future.
I can't read anyone's mind. I'm just telling you my own personal opinion.
None of this, of course, is any advice on buying and selling.
But I think Bitcoin, and 70% of Bitcoin has not moved in the last year.
And the amount of Bitcoin on exchanges is going down and down and down.

[14:41] Because once the world wakes up to the value of Bitcoin, coin, which means the world wakes up to the predatory nature of fiat currency.
Once the world wakes up to the value of Bitcoin, then it will begin to be used as a currency.
But right now, the reason why I think it's mostly not being used as a major B2B currency is because the people who are holding on to it are holding on to it in the in the anticipation that it's going to go to $100,000, it's going to go to $500,000, it's going to go to three quarters of a million, so they won't sell it now.

[15:14] And they're waiting for it to be bid up to that value because if and when, and I think it is a matter of when, not if, but if and when Bitcoin becomes an established currency, again, I think mostly in the B2B sector, business to business, but could be anywhere.
But once Bitcoin becomes an actual currency, its value is going to be so enormous that it's impossible really to imagine or calculate what that means at the moment.
Because when we look at the value of Bitcoin, we still think of it in terms of dollars. I understand that.
But when Bitcoin becomes a B2B international currency, the value of dollars, the value of fiat currency is going to go down to the point where we can't even calculate.
People say, oh, it's going to be worth this, that or the other.
And it's like, but you've got the value of Bitcoin going up enormously and you have the value of fiat as Bitcoin goes up, going down enormously.
So there is no real way to calculate how much, in my view, how much Bitcoin is going to be worth.
It's sort of like if you look at countries which are experiencing sort of Zimbabwe or even Argentinian styles of inflation, saying, well, what's the price going to be in six months? It's like, there's no real way to calculate it.
There's no real way to calculate it because there's just so much variance.
So people are holding on to Bitcoin because they anticipate it becoming a more, international, again, I would say B2B transaction medium him.

Bitcoin's Potential with Educating Older Generations

[16:38] And so because they're not selling it on the anticipation of the price going up and the demand just isn't there as yet because businesses have yet to sort of move into that mindset.
Although because you get the ETFs coming out hopefully later this week, there's going to be a massive amount of effort that is going to be poured into educating particularly older people about Bitcoin.
And when you educate older people about Bitcoin because of their retirement savings plans or whatever it is, and reminding them that Bitcoin has been the best performing asset pretty much in human history, but certainly over the last couple of decades.
So when you educate older people about Bitcoin, you're also educating older business owners, CEOs, in particular CFOs, it's very important.
And once the tax situation becomes clarified, as I think it will be, and it is in a lot of places, then I think you'll see that movement.
But right now, Bitcoin is in the gathering momentum stage.
Bitcoin is in the training stage, right? But it's like saying to an athlete, why don't you just run like you're in the real race when he's warming up or when he's just doing some training or, you know, like running through tire hoops or something like that. Or he's just, you know, whatever.

[17:46] Some, what was it, Muhammad Ali got so sick and tired of doing sit-ups, which you need to have strong abs because you get punched in the stomach and the ring a lot.
So if you see Muhammad Ali in his prime sort of doing a bunch of sit-ups and you say, well, why aren't you fighting? It's like, well, I'm preparing to fight.
I'm not in the ring yet. And so I think that's probably what's going on.
But again, it's all just my amateur nonsense opinions. All right.
So that's a bitty coins. What else do we have here?

[18:13] Hi, Steph, could you please expand on what is and isn't prostitution relating to marriage?
My friend's mom got pregnant by his bio dad, then left him for an older guy who raised my friend.
She then divorced his new dad to sleep around. And when she couldn't find a man who makes more money, she came back to his dad. Thank you.
Well, there's no relationship to prostitution in marriage.

The Difference Between Marriage and Prostitution

[18:41] I mean, that's like saying, what's the relationship to bank robbery to banking?
Well, there is no relationship to bank robbery to banking, because bank robbery is kind of the opposite of banking.
And so, marrying a man simply for his money, having affairs with guys who make more money, I mean, that's not being married.
That's not pair bonding. That's not respecting your vows. Like, anybody who's not respecting their vows, like to love, honor, obey, to be true, faithful, whatever it is, right?
Anybody who's not respecting their vows isn't married.
I mean, they may remain legally married, but they're not married in the eyes of morality.
When you cheat, you don't take care of people, you drink to excess, you have various addictions.
Well, that is not honoring your vows, right?
And so if you're not honoring your vows.

[19:29] If you say, in order to be a monk, you have to be celibate, then a monk who sleeps around is no longer a monk.
And they say, ah, yes, but I still wear the robes and I still live in the monastery.
It's like, well, yeah, but being a monk requires that you be celibate.
And if you are not celibate, you're not a monk.
I mean, again, you may have the trappings, you may have the outfit, you may have the, I don't know, some piece of paper, you might live in a monastery, but you're not a monk.
I mean, to me, it's just like a virgin is somebody who hasn't had sexual intercourse.
Once you've had sexual intercourse, you're not a virgin.
And if you're not living the marriage vows, you're not married, right?
Again, if you go to the bank and you make a withdrawal of $1,000 from your bank account you're conforming to what banking is.
If you go in with a gun and you demand $1,000 from the cashier and she gives you cash and you run away okay, you've gone into the bank and you've come out with $1,000 just like the other guy but it's the opposite. Now you're stealing, not banking.
And again, I'm talking about real banking not this modern...
I reserve nine cents, right?

[20:42] So if you are acting like a prostitute, then you have nothing to do with marriage.
A prostitute is someone who has sex for money.
A prostitute does not get married for money. Now you could say a gold digger or something like that, but that's not the same as being a prostitute.
A prostitute is someone who has transactional sex for money.
You could say an escort is a higher end one who also throws in a date and a gold digger is a woman who marries primarily for money, but she's not married in my view.
She's not married, you would say, in the eyes of the Lord or in the eyes of morality.
A woman who gets married primarily for money is not married because she's not being honest in her vows, right?
In her vows, she would say, well, I'm marrying you because you're wealthy.
And it would be very interesting to have, maybe this would be a series of skits that you would do, but it would be very interesting to have like honest marriage vows.
Like, well, you got pregnant and I'm kind of out of options, so I guess I'll marry you. Or like, well, I'm getting older and I can't get the alpha, so I guess I'll settle for you.
Or, well, I don't really like your personality, but you're very pretty and you're high status and maybe you'll help my career.
Or like you just have this, or, you know, I'm a young woman with a great figure and you're an older guy with lots of money, so I guess I'll just, you know, do tits for cash, right?
Or whatever it is, right? so that would be sort of the honest marriage vows like a marriage vows with a.

[22:07] A spell of tell the truth cast upon the participants so if you know when when i said my vows to my wife but it was the most solemn vows that i'd ever spoken to another person over the course of my life and i take them very seriously and they are the foundation of our relationship and remain so uh this over 20 years since we got married and will remain so for the the next hopefully 30 to 40 years maybe that we get to stay married to each other so that's so if you lie in your marriage vows right if you say you know i love you i respect you i honor you you know love honor obey better or worse sickness and health until death to us part if you say all of that but you're just there for the money or you're just there because the woman's got a nice figure or you're just there because you're running out of options and you're desperate or you're you're just there.
Well, then you're just lying.
You're just lying. And a contract where you're lying is void.
I mean, in the eyes of the law, in the eyes of common law, a contract where you're lying is void.

[23:11] I mean, if I enter into a deal with someone and I say, I'll give you X amount of dollars and you ship me Z amount of goods, and they have no amounts of those goods and they have no way of getting a hold of them, then that contract is null and void.
I don't have to pay that person the money because they lied saying, oh, I'll deliver you a hundred widgets and they don't have a hundred widgets and they have no way of getting a hold of a hundred widgets.
Then they lied in the contract and therefore the contract is null and void.
So people who lie in their wedding vows are not married in my in my view in my way and again this is if you look at marriage as a set of vows rather than a piece of paper uh from from the state right and certainly in the religious context anybody who lies in their marriage vows is committing a grave sin one of the worst sins and would not be married in the eyes of the lord because it's a fraudulent contract.
It's a fraudulent promise or vow.
So there's no relationship.
A prostitute is honest, right? A prostitute says, I'll have sex with you for a hundred bucks or whatever it is, right? And then I'll go away.

[24:17] But she's not lying, right? The prostitute is more honest than the gold digger because the gold digger is lying through her gritty teeth when she gets married and that makes the marriage null and void. All right.

The Debate on Keeping Kids Innocent and Naive

[24:30] Do you think it's beneficial in any way to keep kids innocent and naive as long as possible?
For example, keeping the magic of Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy alive as opposed to telling them they aren't real?

Terrible on Every Level: Challenging the Concept of Innocence

[24:48] No, that's terrible.
Excuse me yeah that's terrible on just about every level I really can't express just how terrible that is not immoral just kind of terrible and the reason I say that is that, you're saying that to be innocent is to be completely wrong and deluded about the nature of the world, right that the impossible is possible right that Santa and tooth fairies and other Nonsense creations of fever dream imagination are real objective things in the world.
In other words, you're saying that innocence is having completely false and deranged beliefs about the world.
Way to set yourself up for endless cynicism. So innocence, yes, it's all you ever pleaded.
So innocence simply means I'm innocent of doing evil.

Understanding Innocence and Gullibility

[25:52] But innocence doesn't mean that you are easily lied to and can believe things that are obviously foolish and impossible.
Right? That's gullible. That's gullible. And children aren't really gullible because they have to trust their parents.
So innocence means, like I'm an innocent person. I have not harmed children.
I have done great good in the world. I have not done evil. I have not violated the non-aggression principle. I have not violated UPB.
And I've tried to do my very best with the gifts that I have to bring more virtue to the world in actionable and practical ways.
Not in abstract ways, but in actionable and practical ways. That is...

[26:36] My goal that's been the purpose of my life certainly for the past few decades, and i'm innocent of wrongdoing i'm innocent of evil i'm innocent of corruption i'm innocent of, lying i'm innocent of harm to others who are virtuous i mean you can't do good without harming evildoers so that's just a byproduct right Right?
You can't be a good doctor without harming disease. Right?
So when you say you want to keep them innocent, you could say naive.
Yeah, I get that you say, but that's not, that's not innocent.
That's, um, uh, deluded.
Right? I mean, if you meet an adult who genuinely believes in impossible things, who believes that things that can't exist, exist, and things that can't possibly happen happen and genuinely believe that that would be somebody who's psychotic who has had a massive break with reality somebody who's schizophrenic uh somebody who's got severe severe mental illness to the point where they're having auditory and visual hallucinations and believe the impossible and if you've ever been around people like that you know that that is one of the most tortured and horrifying states of mind possible for the human experience it is just about the worst conceivable thing that you can go through.
My mom believes 10 impossible things before breakfast and lives a life of tortured paranoia and keeps knives under her pillows and thinks the cars backfiring in the street are people shooting at her and graffiti four buildings over is a secret message from her enemies to her.

[28:06] It's a godforsaken, literally godforsaken, hellish experience that you wouldn't really wish upon your worst enemy.
And if I could snap my fingers and have my mom not experienced that, even though she did me a lot of wrong in my life, I would absolutely do it because there's no enemy I have that I would want to wish that kind of hell on.
I mean, not that I get to snap my fingers, but so telling children that reality is contradictory and up is down, black is white, true is false and consistency is randomness and the impossible is real is courting mental illness in your children.
People say, oh, well, no, but you want to keep them innocent and just believe.
And it's like, no, no, no, you're setting them up.
First of all, you're setting them up that you lied to them. You're setting them up that you messed with their sense of reality, that you messed with their sense of reason, rationality, consistency, and truth.
And you can say, oh, but it's just Santa and so on. It's like, okay, well, explain to me if telling children the impossible is true and the unreal is real and the anti-rational is rational.
If telling them all of that is so good, then why are people so unhappy happy, and why are they so crazy?
Now, Tooth Fairy Santa Claus is an exercise of power. It's an exercise of dominance, and not an exercise of love.

The Exercise of Power and Dominance

[29:29] It's, well, I can get children to believe things because I'm bigger, wiser, stronger, more powerful, and they're utterly dependent upon me and have no other frame of reference.
It's an exercise of power and dominance and domination.
To get people, look, let's look look at North Korea. I know this all sounds ridiculous.
I'm aware of that. And I'm not saying this is some big, great evil in the world.
I'm just saying this part of a larger pattern that's important.
So, to get people, and you can see this all over the place in modern society, to get people to believe things that are false and impossible is an exercise of power.
Why is it that people mouth and repeat things that are impossible and nonsense?
Because they're afraid. Because they're afraid of some negative repercussion in society.
If you look at But dictatorships, right? Dictatorships always demand that you praise the leaders and the leadership and the system and everything that's happening.
And if you don't, they'll throw you in a gulag.
So getting you to state the impossible, to state what is the opposite of the truth, to get you to state what is self-contradictory is an exercise in power.
To get you to repeat things that are false is a way of exercising power through fear. Now, it can be through bribery, but in general, it's through fear.
So, of course, if you're a communist under Stalin, you're supposed to simultaneously believe that the proletariat should control the means of production, and then say that the elites in politics should control the means of production.
These two things are complete opposites, but you have to say them like they're completely true.

[30:54] And of course, this is all very well explained in 1984 when O'Brien tortures Winston Smith and says, you know, how many fingers am I holding up?
And the real answer is whatever the party says.
You can't trust you. You have to reject your own direct experience and you have to do whatever the party says.
And you have to not just do, but believe and deeply believe whatever the party says. If they say we're at war with East Asia, you have to hate East Asia.
If tomorrow they say we're at war with Eurasia, now you have to love East Asia and hate Eurasia and not notice any transition. All of this is an exercise of power.
To get you to believe impossible things is evidence to the sadist that his sadism has taken effect and is working and is right.
And I'm not calling all the people who tell their kids about the Santa Claus and the tooth fairy, I'm not calling them all sadists, I'm just saying it's part of a larger pattern.
So, all right.

Family Dynamics and Feminism

[31:47] Given a family with a cowardly father and a domineering mother, do you think that this is a breeding ground for feminist daughters?
I was on a date with a girl a while ago who told me that her mother was viciously verbally abusive towards her, but her father was very supportive of her, teaching her things like how to paint her nails.
In a follow-up conversation, she told me that I was being disrespectful to women because I said, I am not a feminist.
This is interesting to me because I've often heard it said that staunch feminist women often come from households where the father is actively abusive while the mother is cowardly.
You can see this borne out in the early life of the feminist Shulamith Firestone however could the opposite scenario where the mother is the actively abusive parent produce feminists for different reasons.

[32:25] Does this go on is this the same yes I think it does, her father had the power to intervene in the abuse but did nothing my hypothesis is that in this woman's mind with her father's evidence men do not deserve the larger share of corporate political and cultural power they wield in the world, because they are cowards who don't act to solve the world's problems, which she would define as racism, sexism, homophobia, etc.
Therefore, feminism, women need to occupy 50% of the position in every power structure, presumably to act as a check on the power of men who are, in her view, derelict in their duties.
Additionally, given that her father did not use his position of power to protect his daughter, then, in her mind, there's no evidence that men have earned their power in the world.
The only reason that men could have more power than women is because of male conspiracy against women. All right.
Yeah, I mean, it's all, it seems to me, all a bunch of tortured nonsense.

Abusive Mother and Supportive Father

[33:18] So let me just make sure I get this. Her mother was viciously verbally abusive towards her, but that her father was very supportive of her.
Okay, so you've got an abusive mother and a more supportive father.
Of course, that's not, again, this is just a classic example of the parent who gets away, way the parent who uh is is considered to be uh better uh the the the the the supportive parent is is better than the abusive parent uh no uh no they're part of a system right they're part of a system right so if most people who punch they have a better like i'm left-handed right so you have a better punch i have a better punch in my left hand than my right hand okay so uh if i were to beat someone up right let's take a sort of silly example if i were to beat someone up i would hit them better with my left hand than with my right hand.
Does that mean that my right hand is nicer?

[34:08] No, it's just one person is, one aspect of this is stronger.
So, first of all, the mother would only choose to marry the father if he won't interfere with her abuse.
So, she chose a weak man. So, saying that this is some sort of random thing about men and women in society as a whole, it's like, no, the abusive woman will choose a weak-willed and submissive man to marry, so that she can continue her abuse.
If there's a guy, if she starts getting, what would you call it, stroppy in English, She starts to get sort of hostile and aggressive and so on.
And a man strongly counters that and calls her out on it.
She'll just call him controlling, right? So for a woman to have preferences is empowered. For a man to have preferences is controlling.

[34:53] For a woman to restrain a man's negative aspects is called civilizing him.
For a man to restrain a woman's negative aspects is being dominating dictatorial.
We all know this sort of boring nonsense that goes on. so if this mother when she was single went out on a date with a guy and she was he was really let's say she berated the waiter or something and he was like you are like that's really rude, like that's really it's not the waiter's fault that the that the the kitchen didn't get something right it's not the waiter's fault that the kitchen is slow like that's really unfair that's really rude of you to do that and it's really really off-putting right now that's her him pushing back again now all she'll do is she'll say oh what do you know or she might kind of even apologize a bit but she won't want to see him again because he's controlling and he's judgmental and he's abusive like she'll just make up all this nonsense so she won't marry that guy right, so both the abusive and the non-abusive parents both have a deal which says, the abuse gets to continue now of course you also don't know the father might be more of a passive sadist so there's active sadists who are vicious towards other people and there are passive sadists and what the passive sadists do is they enjoy watching watching, right?
Like the cuck chair in the hotel room, right? They enjoy watching the sadism.
They get some sort of gratification by watching the mother abuse the child.
However sinister we want to get there, that's a very real phenomenon.

[36:19] I mean, if you think about the sort of BDSM fantasies of the Fifty Shades of Grey, right?
It's, of course, every woman, and it was largely a female male phenomenon.
Every woman who got turned on by those books and those movies, absolute trash that they were, every woman who got turned on by those is not probably really into bondage and sadism and masochism and domination and so on.
She's probably not an active practitioner of these dark arts of sexual torture, but she's turned on by that.
So she would be a passive sadist in that that she's turned on by watching these kinds of aggressions and brutalities and so on, right?

[37:03] So, in the same way, the husband probably doesn't want, well, in this case, he doesn't want to verbally abuse the daughter, but he really likes to watch it happen.
And that's the deal that's going on.

Feminism Resulting from Dysfunctional Family Structures

[37:15] A good cop, bad cop, and all of that. They're both arresting you, right?
So this idea that you've got this particular combination of abuser and abusee and perpetrator and participant and watcher and strong father, it's all, sorry, I don't mean to be overly blunt, but it's all nonsense.
Are you saying that before there was feminism there were no dysfunctional family structures?
That before there was feminism there were no abusive mothers or fathers?
There were no weak fathers and abusive mothers or abusive fathers and weak mothers? That's all nonsense.
Sorry, you just have to be, again, I don't mean to be too impatient here, but you just have to be basically critical of all of this nonsense and say, you know, feminism is the result of this family structure.
Okay, let's say feminism is the result of weak women and abusive men, right? Weak fathers, abusive mothers. Okay.
So you're saying that's the cause of feminism. Okay. So then why is feminism 150 years old?

[38:21] Are you saying that this particular family configuration did not exist before feminism?
I mean, come on. I mean, this is, I mean, I'm trying not to be too impatient, but this is, you know, we're kind of in the graduate school level of mathematics and you're still trying to get your times table right sorry to be but it's just basic right feminism comes from this family structure feminism is you know however you want to measure it 100 150 years old whatever uh so that's 150, so feminism results from this family structure feminism is 150 years old therefore this family structure cannot have existed before feminism now if this family structure existed before feminism feminism say for the past 150,000 years, a little bit more than 150 years, if this family structure, it doesn't mean every family structure was like that.
She said feminism comes out of this family structure. Feminism is 150 years old.
Therefore, the test of that theory is to say, did this family structure exist prior 250 years ago?
Were there weak mothers and abusive, sorry, were there weak fathers and abusive mothers or vice versa or whatever?
And of course the answer is, well, Well, of course, of course there were, of course there were.

[39:28] And so I'm not sure what, I mean, is this complicated? Am I wrong about this? Is this tough?
This woman says, feminism comes out of this structure. This family structure has existed as long as there are people.
So why would feminism be more recent phenomenon?
I mean, none of it makes any sense. And it's not even complicated.
This is not, I mean, this is not any kind of brain surgery on my part.
This is not just a blindingly obvious question to ask. So you ask this woman, she says, oh, feminism comes out of this family structure.
Okay, how old is this family structure?
Well, I mean, you can find it in the Bible. You can find examples of the weak father and the dominant mother in the Bible, of course.
You can find it in ancient Greek writings, in ancient Roman writings.
You can find it, you know, going back to whatever, right?
I'm sure there's some cave painting of some husband cowering before his oversized wife at the club or something like so this family structure has been around forever so how could that explain like so it must be something else i mean or something else plus this if you want to say this and um to me it's not i mean to me it's not complicated because if you're going to say and like really sort of modern feminism is really started in the 1960s before that women were kind of looking for equality but this sort of modern feminism really started in the 1960s.

The Impact of the Welfare State on Women

[40:48] So what changed in the 1960s that had the most effect on women what changed in the 1960s in the west in america in particular that had the most effect on on women well the welfare state, men don't really understand how much the welfare state has impacted women because in the past women's virtually sole focus when they were young was to make sure that they were in a secure position before they had children.
Now they don't need that at all. So now.

[41:20] Women get resources from men by force.
If you can get resources from someone by force, that changes the whole social equation.
That changes the whole social equation. So for women, becoming contemptuous of men was impossible at a time when women needed men in order to survive, right?
You can say birth control plus, but birth control plus the welfare state kind of happened around the same time, right?
So I want you to think of, of some guy, let's say, he claims to really love his grandmother, right?

[42:02] And he goes over and he rubs linseed oil on her feet and he brings her soup because she's got $5 million and she says she's going to leave it to him, right?
So he's really, really nice to her and take care of her and is solicitous and when she calls, he runs over and he just really reads to her because she's too old to read or whatever, right?
Really, really nice to his grandmother, and then she dies, and he gets the $5 million, and it's transferred, it can't go back, it's uncontested.
Then you'll find out how he really feels about his grandmother, because he now has the money.
Do you follow? If some guy has a problem at work, doesn't like his boss, doesn't like his customers, doesn't like his job, and then he wins $5 million in the lottery, then the boss will hear in no uncertain terms what the person really feels, because he doesn't need to get money from his boss in the same way that the guy doesn't need to get money from his grandmother after he already has the money from his grandmother.

Women's Independence and the Diminishing Need for Men

[43:03] So when you, and this is not examples of force in particular, although the government lotteries are force-based.
So if a man has a problem, but he needs to tamp down that problem in order to get resources, get money, and everybody who's worked has had problems with their boss or problems with their customers that they tamp down because they need the paycheck they need the money right i had difficult customers when i was a waiter and all of that kind of stuff so you need the money you keep working, so if you can get resources by force you don't need to be nice anymore you don't need to work with people you don't need to subjugate your hostility you don't need to be mature you don't need to look at the larger perspective you don't know so once women and yeah women some women have have a lot of problems with men, but they work those problems out with men because they need men in order to survive, because they get pregnant and have children and somebody's got to pay the bills and put a roof over their head and provide medicine and all of that, right? And retirement.
Right? So women restrained the problems they had with men because they needed men in order to survive.
And once you get the welfare state, women don't need men in order to survive.
So women can become total witches with a capital B and they still get all the men's money no matter what.
And that's all That's all I mean, it's nothing more complicated than that That when you can get someone's resources by force You can insult them all you want.

The Power Dynamics between Men and Women

[44:27] You can insult them all you want, right? The king says the peasants are revolting.
The peasants never say the king is revolting because the king gets all the resources from the peasants by force.
You can see this in the state. You can see this. You understand, right?
You understand that women no longer have to restrain any hostility.
They no longer have to be nice.
They no longer have to work things out. They no longer need to be reasonable and mediate and so on because they get resources from men by force, right?
You know that men are net massive payers into the tax system and women are net massive net recipients of money from the tax system so because men have been enslaved in part through force by female voters um i mean the the the quote slave owner or the aristocrat doesn't need to be nice to the serf at all because it's not a negotiated voluntary uh situation so this idea that there's some complicated family structure that produces uh a feminism no i mean the the coercive based ruling class does not need to be nice to their serfs and they can insult them all they want so.

[45:33] Um i again i'm i i can't i can't see why you need to go into all this complicated freudian stuff it's pretty simple and again for more on this you can read my free novel called the present which you can get at free domain.com slash books and you really should You can listen to the audio book. I'm listening to it at the moment, actually.
Really, what a great book it is. And it goes into all of this sort of stuff.
So, I mean, all you have to do to just make this really clear in your own mind is just, okay, well, let's say the welfare state checks stop coming tomorrow, right? Let's just say.
So money, inflation, whatever, whether the purchasing power is demolished or the simply, right?
So let's say that the welfare state checks stop coming tomorrow and women now need men to survive.
Like literally to survive. They need a man to, because if they've got kids or whatever, they need men to survive. But what are they going to do?

[46:29] Right? Everybody knows what they're going to do. They're going to be nice to men again because they need men to survive.

[46:36] So, you know, like there's some descendant of Louis de France living in Waterloo, Canada, right? The Capons or whatever they were, right?
So there's some descendant of the Louis regime in France.
France and of course Louis the Louis regime in France Louis the 16th or whatever could be a total jerk could get people flogged and executed and and so on but his descendant is no longer a king and therefore is nice and productive in the economy and may have impulses to have people I don't know put to death but doesn't act on them because he's got a job and there's laws and right so he doesn't have the power that his ancestors had so he's a nice reasonable person who operates rates in the free market, I assume, and does reasonable things and tamps down his temper, right?
Power corrupts, right? And the power to get resources from men through force, through voting, corrupts women.
And part of that corruption is the misandry of feminism.
So, yeah. And of course, it's not just that women don't need men.
It's that those you exploit, you have to denigrate, right? Those you exploit, you have to denigrate.

[47:39] It's otherwise you can't live with the exploitation right so those who exploit you have to denigrate and because women are using the power of the state to exploit men in general as a whole lots of exceptions but because women are voting for free stuff for men that men are and from their children and from the unborn and someone, then um yeah they're going to put down men because if they have empathy for men, then they'll say well gee it's really kind of unfair for us to take all of this money from men, um using the power of the state so we shouldn't do that and so i'd say you you you have to.

Exploitation and Denigration in Gender Dynamics

[48:12] It's not only you're liberated to become hostile to men, you have to be hostile to men.
You have to put men down because you have to denigrate those you're exploiting.
Otherwise, you can't exploit them. You can't live with yourself.
So you have to view them as worse or bad or mean or terrible or whatever, right? So, you know, those people who come to countries and sit on the welfare state and so on have to denigrate the countries they live in.
And, I don't know, it's payback for colonialism. I'd have to come up with all this nonsense.
That's, you know, it's psychologically pretty impossible to exploit people without insulting them and putting them down and dehumanizing them, right?
Dehumanizing, treating them as livestock.
So, you know, all of this, sorry, I don't mean to be overly impatient, but maybe that's my New Year's vow.
But all of this nonsense about family structure and this, that, and the other, it's obviously false.
Now, again, you don't have to come up with the whole welfare state thing, but, you know, this configuration of family is likely to produce feminism and feminists.
It's like, okay, well, has this never existed before feminism?
Of course it has. Therefore, that can't be the answer. So, anyway, I hope that helps. Freedomain.com.
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