0:04 - All Right, We're In The Same Room
1:22 - The Homestead Experience
3:45 - Spoilers Ahead
5:10 - Analyzing The Movie's Plot
7:31 - The Tension Between Characters
10:15 - Marriages and Relationships
14:10 - The Math of Survival
16:28 - The Electric Car Dilemma
20:27 - The Army Couple's Dilemma
25:14 - The Warning Shot Incident
31:00 - The Nurse's Reaction
38:39 - The Dilemma of Orders
41:43 - Conclusion and Final Thoughts
42:17 - Personalizing the Argument
43:57 - Operators and Their Roles
46:24 - Government Skepticism
48:16 - Evolutionary Necessity
49:49 - Community and Individual Roles
52:26 - Women's Charitable Nature
53:16 - Realistic Survival Strategies
56:05 - Cultural Phenomena in Film
1:02:21 - The Devil's Influence
1:07:03 - Audience Reactions
1:09:15 - Clichés and Stereotypes in Characters
1:13:38 - Authority and Power Dynamics
1:16:02 - Relationship Expectations
1:17:11 - Authenticity in Non-Leftist Films
1:19:37 - Vanity and Relationship Dynamics
1:21:51 - Final Thoughts on the Film
In this episode, we dig deep into the film "Homestead," a post-apocalyptic narrative produced by Angel Studios. The film has drawn mixed reactions, particularly from us—Stefan, Jarrod, and James—as we break down our viewing experience and the film's various shortcomings. The first issue arises from the film's premise; it attempts to present survival in a nuclear apocalypse while ultimately failing to engage with the complexities of human relationships in such dire situations.
As we dissect the plot, we uncover a series of decisions that led to our collective disappointment. With a narrative that felt more like a product placement exercise than a cohesive story, the film lacked the depth we were hoping for. The direction chose to explore overtly simplistic archetypes rather than complex characters, resulting in a portrayal that felt disconnected from reality. We all note that the casting seemed to reflect clichés more than genuine representations of human beings facing an existential threat.
A pivotal element that we explore is the film's portrayal of gender dynamics in crises. We critique how the narrative seems to vilify male characters for their rational approaches, contrasting them with female characters who often react emotionally. This tension highlights a larger theme we observed: the repeated undermining of male authority and competence while simultaneously portraying female characters as infallible beings. This sentiment triggered discussions about the roles of men and women in society and the film's larger commentary—or lack thereof—on human interaction within the structures of a family under duress.
Recurring threads in our commentary involve the absurdity of creative choices within the film, such as the portrayals of different family dynamics and the depiction of survival strategies. We dissect a particular scene wherein a character must reconcile the emotional turmoil of taking another's life, contrasting this with the shallow response of a female character who offers solace in a way that feels hollow and unearned. The dissonance between their actions emphasizes our frustrations with the film's characterization as it fails to show realistic human emotion in extreme scenarios.
We also express our disbelief at the reliance on narrative conveniences, such as characters who seemingly act without logical motivation, and the film's heavy-handed message that simplifies complex human relationships. Moreover, the lack of character growth and the inability of anyone to make a critical mistake without it being rationalized away exemplified the film's shortcomings.
In the end, we come together in a cathartic unpacking of the film's failures, motivated by a desire for more authentic storytelling that accurately represents the struggles and resilience of human beings. "Homestead" serves not only as a film to review but as a springboard for a larger conversation about the portrayal of masculinity, femininity, virtue, and the human experience in times of crisis. We conclude with a call for a more nuanced approach to storytelling that recognizes the complexities of human relationships, especially within the context of survival, leaving our audience with reflections on art, authenticity, and the lessons to be drawn from our cinematic experiences.
[0:00] Yes, we're here. This is Stefan. Jarrod. This is James.
[0:04] All right. We're actually in the same room because we have used your fine donations to develop teleportation devices that defy the will of the gods. So I will, in fact, not be asking for donations remotely. I'll be showing up in your bedroom. You may not recognize me because I will be dressed as Ronald McDonald or the clown from it, depending on whether you've donated or not before. So freedom.com slash donate to help out the show. Now, we are good friends, and we try to help each other make good decisions. But I think it's fairly safe to say, this is on me. I did not help you guys make a good decision yesterday. In fact, I strongly encourage us to make what is possibly one of the worst artistic decisions I've ever made, which is to go and see the movie Homestead. That's fairly put. Is it fair? I grovel in sublime levels of knee-bending apology for this, and we will talk about the why. This is from Angel Studios, and they have a pretty uneven track record for me. And I've seen now four of their films. Two of them were good, and one of them was forgettable. And this one was bad. And on so many levels...
[1:22] It troubled me.
[1:23] Now, I should correct that because I did put it on you to say you took us to go see Homestead. But no, the reality is I've seen people on Twitter. I've seen people like, have you seen Homestead? And in retrospect, I get what it was. It was product placement. Someone was organic.
[1:37] Organic marketing, maybe.
[1:37] Oh, no, it wasn't organic. In my opinion, not organic at all. Right. Whoever was paid to promote it and talk about it and bring it up. And I understand why, because they weren't going to get the organic love. But initially, I'm like, oh, yeah, I got to go see that.
[1:52] Well, if so, for me, it was right out of my novel, The Present. People should get that at freedomain.com slash books, which is about the collapse of a civilization. Mine is more of a slow motion economic collapse, and theirs is nukes in the harbor.
[2:05] And the present is like a good, hearty, like grounded, real philosophical take on this kind of a situation. I was looking for, okay, what's more of a practical, what's more of a practical take? Like show me the cool stuff. How do I filter the water? How do I do this? Or what are the relationship problems I'm going to come across in this situation that I'm not going to hear about from you because you're dealing with the heart and soul of things. But what's the more surface level stuff I need to think about and negotiate and blah, blah, blah. I'm like, I was pretty excited.
[2:31] Well and and for men in particular fortress stuff is cool yeah yeah you know because we we evolved with this like i write about this in my novel the future right which is like we have enough food for winter our neighbors don't and their bodies are going to have to litter the the the backyard until we can bury them in the spring right because we can't let them in like this fortress stuff this is why so so to me it speaks to something really primal which is i've thought ahead i've planned ahead this grasshopper and the ant stuff i've thought ahead i've planned ahead i'm really sorry that you haven't and there was this tension right uh and this tension between the men saying we have to keep them out and all the women saying oh we have to let them in because feelings and i thought you know this is going to be really i mean that's an interesting tension or whatever it is right so and even even that like could have been that could have been really great for a really a great foundation for a story because that is where we live now.
[3:30] And I want to see that conversation too, but it needs to go completely different than it did in that movie.
[3:35] Oh, shall we say spoilers? Obviously, you know, that whole movie is a spoiler. Yeah. So yes, there will be spoilers in this.
[3:46] I, you know, if you like to analyze art, it's not a bad movie to see. Like we've, we've got some really good conversations out of it.
[3:53] I was going to say, yes, it did cross a point to where it was so obscene it was humorous.
[3:58] Yes. So the basic story is there is... You guys said it was China, that there's this nuclear bomb in a fishing boat, a bunch of nuclear weaponry or whatever, in a fishing boat off Los Angeles.
[4:12] They were South Americans because they were speaking Spanish. And then, but.
[4:15] You could see
[4:16] Like Asian writing all over the stuff. And, and he's like, think about your family, your familia. And then, so I, the implication to me was that they were like paid to sacrifice themselves.
[4:26] Or their family was going to get killed if they did.
[4:28] Or that. Something like that. Absolutely.
[4:30] Oh, you made a vow or something like that. So these two Polynesian-looking guys speak in Spanish, and they detonate this bomb off the coast. And then this does some daisy chain thing that I didn't quite follow.
[4:42] Okay, but no, but then the Russians. Bro, the Russians.
[4:45] Oh, I thought the Russians were being blamed for the first nuke.
[4:47] No, no, no, no, no, no. It was the- Attacking the cyber thing.
[4:50] Yeah. Cyber attack on the Great Carver. We're under a cyber attack.
[4:53] Yeah, like you said, a daisy chain. First, it's a nuke, and then something else goes on, and eventually cohesion in society breaks down, and California, Utah are fighting and that kind of stuff. To me, the movie was the right-wing's version of Civil War in its obscenity of how much they got it wrong.
[5:11] Go on. Let's hear about how they got it wrong. Well, they couldn't do a full nuke thing. Okay. Because then everyone's dead, right? Or has nine heads and like there's no surviving. If there's like, you know, 50 nukes dropped on America, there's no surviving, right? I mean, that's why otherwise people wouldn't build bunkers, right? So they couldn't do a full nuke scenario. So they had to do, you can't just have the power grid hack because there's no drama in that. Like the mushroom cloud, for me, it triggers like Cold War shit from my childhood, right? So they have to have the mushroom cloud and the, why is the sky so weird, man? Chemtrails. So they had to have a new for the drama. Yeah, don't breathe the air. Is that a thing? it was in the movie i don't know i don't know are you inhale it could be yeah it absolutely could you inhale
[5:56] The you can have a dirty.
[5:57] Bomb well i i thought i thought it was i was like not sure about it and then when they got the tesla yeah a little park oh there was a biometric yeah it was like a biohazard okay what are you right i
[6:09] Didn't catch that the tesla like.
[6:10] A biohazard it's like yeah this is interesting right so is this like it's like a nuclear is like a bioweapon like what's going on and but then you bring the dog in who's been inhaling and exhaling apparently into the car it's totally fine yeah well
[6:22] No no the car the dog.
[6:23] Oh no you're right you're
[6:25] Right yeah because you.
[6:26] Can't breathe it but bring the dog in who's breathed it anyway that's one of
[6:31] The things that it would harm you individually because i think the case to be made is like it's either radioactive particles themselves or particles that have been made radioactive by the explosion and therefore you're bringing in this but wouldn't the.
[6:43] Dog breathe Anyway, so I didn't know that was a thing. I don't mind being schooled and educated. I'm sure they did some research that way. I don't know if it's a thing outside of the movie at all. Right, right. But it was there. So they had to have the bomb for the drama, and everyone's got to flee, right? Oh, the lights are flickering is not the most dramatic way to start a movie, right? And they flee, and I thought at the beginning, I don't know who was the actress who played the mom at the beginning, but she was in the car fighting her panic. Such good acting for me. Like, that hit my heart.
[7:10] The first five minutes they had me. I'm like, this, oh, finally, we have a studio that gets it. Like, this is going to be a right-wing studio, you know? And, yeah.
[7:21] And then it kind of got haywire from then. So that family flees, and then there was the interracial family, the tough guy and the tough woman.
[7:31] right that the the white guy she's black they were both ex-military and he was like stone-faced golem-headed tough guy and he had the look and i thought he acted it very well and all of that like i really believe that he was that kind of guy it wouldn't surprise me if the actor was ex-military because he just seemed to have that in his bones you know like some actors are just born to play cops and this guy was just born to play soldier of fortune guy like the army fella out of uh full mount jacket and yeah yeah yeah yeah well he was that yeah he wasn't actually an And then they have this, the number of plot threads that were left hanging was annoying. Now, I try not to be too OCD about plot threads, but there's this girl and she has a vision. She draws a tree that looks vaguely like a nuclear bomb. And he holds it up and it looks like she drew this an hour before. So she's got some prognostication thing. She's got, does that ever come up again?
[8:26] Oh, no, no, it does. towards the end so that you can go keep watching the series.
[8:30] No, no, after the end. That's after the end. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's an advertisement, yeah. Yeah, so the advertisement for the series. So to me, if you're going to set up psychic kid who knows bombs are coming, it's got to pay off. I mean, don't set me... There's an old thing from Chekhov, the Russian playwright. He said, look, if you have a dining room and on the mantelpiece is a gun, it has to be used before the end of the show. You can't just have a gun on the mantelpiece and not have it go anywhere. And so they were setting up all of this stuff. I'm thinking, wow, they're already got a boss in the area. Apparently, it's really easy to be a juggler if you just let things fall. You know, just don't just so that can because that showed up nowhere again. And I'm not really sure what the point was of kid draws ambiguous bomb tree an hour before, which nobody can figure out what it is. Like, what does that even mean? She get a vision. Is God trying to save them? Well, wouldn't he send them something a bit more? Clear? Like, leave the house, a bomb is coming, as opposed to, this tree could vaguely be... Anyway, so, that kind of drove me.
[9:25] When it does fit the theme of women are imaginable and have a better connection to God, men.
[9:31] Oh, the blasphemy. Yeah. The blasphemy. We'll get into the whole... Because towards the end, of course, it's gynocentricity. Gynocentricity, the women have totally taken over. Because the women have a special relationship with God, don't you know? And the women, they get God. They understand God. And all that men can do is trust the women, right? The woman says, I believe, I trust God. And the man says, I trust you. Such blasphemy, such an inversion of the man as the head of the household of Christianity. Absolute female worship, death of modern Christianity, absolute garbage.
[10:06] Or even if, let's say you leave that outside of it, it's an inversion on the equality of men and women. Because now it's just men deferring to women's magical relationship with God.
[10:15] Okay yeah yeah so let's talk a little bit about the marriages hmm so james is still single ladies jared is married recently and very happy it's
[10:26] Wonderful do it.
[10:28] I have married 20 almost 20 oh god we just went over this last night 22 22 this january thanks mom well i don't know because i heard last night well i was listening to step oh jesus no i appreciate that i i can't help but be an apple polisher it's just my nature edit this part out edit this part out okay so none of the marriages were good there was this constant thing where the men were trying to be sensible and the women got upset at them always always always like the guys got a whole like so so basically there's a bunch of people who flee the cities and they get to the homestead the homestead is this giant half bulbous mediterranean castle on a hill in the rockies where they don't maintain the fencing apparently it's just not important yeah don't maintain the fencing but people got to stay out so they get to this homestead and i guess the first quarter of the movie is them getting to the homestead right the drama of driving through and and getting gas and there's an electric car why did you get an electric car like she gets mad at her husband why did you get an electric car it's like why didn't you know that there was going to be a nuclear incident and then the russians were going to hack the grid. And like, come on, man. How about pulling together a little bit in a crisis? I'm sorry we don't have a magical girl in our house. I'm sorry the bomb tree didn't tell me in the one hour before it happened to sell the electric car and get a, I don't know. And why is it?
[11:54] Anyway, crazy. And the electric car that also happened to have the biohazard.
[11:58] That saved their life. How dare you buy something that saved their life? So all that happened was the men were trying to be sensible and rational. And the women were just upset about it. So there's this silver-haired guy The guy my daughter referred to as bald. By the way, why is Izzy not in this movie review? Oh, right. Why is it? I remember, at least for much of the movie, some of the movie, part of the movie, I did see her in the movie theater.
[12:23] This is where I admire her wisdom.
[12:26] She fled.
[12:27] She's like, I'm done. I'm cashing out.
[12:29] So there was an interesting synchronicity between the movie and the audience, because the movie characters were fleeing the irradiated bomb in the harbor, and my daughter was fleeing the irradiated bomb of the movie. So there was really quite a lot of refugees occurring. And so she went to the washroom, and she was gone an alarmingly long time. Like, what are you, 58 with a phone? Anyway, that's another story that has nothing to do with anyone at the table. And then she just came back and she said, is it okay if I don't return? I'm like, absolutely. Don't worry about it. But she doesn't even mind a bad movie if you can make fun of it. But this was appalling to her. And again, out of the mouth of babes, right? The wisdom of the end. So this is why she declined to participate. And she would just only be able to talk about it before she left. So the married couples. So the guy, the silverhead guy has on the wall the chalkboard, right?
[13:25] And he's the patriarch. He's the one who is competent enough to build this megalith mansion cellar, all this stuff, like all this big pepper thing.
[13:34] And he's got the greenhouse. And he's got, here's the people. Here's the calories. He's got the math, right? He's got the math. Yeah. And he's like, and then there's a problem with the potato. No, the grain. The grain gets broken into some parent. And this is, of course, the big nightmare. Like I felt my bladder squeeze when I saw that scene, ancestral memories. Rats getting in. If the rats get into the grain, you're dead. Yeah. Like you're, this is why the domesticated cats and, and all like that, you, you, you cannot, cause you can't like, you eat it, you die. You don't eat it, you starve. Yeah. Right. So I'm like, oh God. So anyway, he's got this whole chart on the wall about all the calories and he's like, we can't make it.
[14:10] And his wife is just like, my God is bigger than math. Was it something like that?
[14:14] No, that's it verbatim.
[14:16] My God is bigger than your silly math. And it's like, so there was this guy who turned out to be off his meds and crazy. And it's like, still not that crazy though. Still not as crazy as the women who were like, we can bring everyone in because outside the gate, right?
[14:31] It's kind of funny,
[14:32] Right? There's this gate to this whole compound, the homestead, when they keep it locked. and all these refugees piling up who want stuff, right? Even friends of the guy inside, right? But on the back, there are no gates whatsoever. There's no gates, and people just walk right. The fence is down. Remember the guys who walk over the fence, and there's like no trespassing? So everyone apparently just waits at the gates and starves to death rather than go around the side where you can get in with no problems. So anyway, I just found that strange but true. So the women are just, so the men are like, here's what we need to survive. And the women are all like, no, because miracle, faith, and feelings. And it's like, and that tension is interesting, right? And so on. But none of the marriages are happy. And none of the men are respected. Can you think of one time when a man was respected?
[15:22] Well, between men.
[15:23] And deferred to. No, no. Women to men. No. It's math. God made math. Yeah. God made human beings so that you need a certain amount of calories in order to survive.
[15:34] Yep.
[15:35] How does feeling, you know, estrogen does not remake reality. Although I guess it does in the modern world. But that to me was just appalling.
[15:42] Like I had no
[15:43] Sympathy for any of the married couples whatsoever. Now, one of the women was like, we have to let the refugees in because feelings,
[15:50] Right? Literally, they're calling, and these are like their local neighbors and friends who are at the gates. The men have counseled.
[15:56] Like we're not
[15:57] Letting them in, not happening.
[15:58] Okay.
[15:59] And then they call them, they literally call them the refugees. and then they're literally.
[16:03] Letting the refugees in. Well, there's a real contradiction in the models, right? So do you remember at the beginning, the woman is leaving in the Tesla or whatever. Is it a Tesla? Some electric car, right? Yeah, it's some kind of electric car. But it's not a Cybertruck. I don't care because those things are seriously cool. They appeal to my Lego brain. So she's leaving in the Tesla and the Tesla is running out of power, right?
[16:28] And I was a bit jaw dropped at this, but I thought it was very cool and I thought this would really pay off right so she decides to steal a man's regular car her man's gas car right yeah yeah catalytic no it was like a mini internal combustion something I love so she some guy's in I guess he leaves his keys in the car which is stupid yeah right if you're fleeing and and it's a like a lawless situation you don't leave your keys in the car anyway excuse me for the convenience of the plot he leaves his keys in the car so she She sneaks her children Into his car and steals his car, drives away from the car with him hanging off the window, screaming. It's sorry. Like, why not take him with you? Oh. Well, maybe he would want to go somewhere else. So he could be going to pick up his kids because it was a big car, so it wasn't just his car.
[17:20] And then do you invite that conflict? No, you go.
[17:23] But she's willing to kill the guy because I thought it's very easy when you're hanging on to the side of the car. You fall and you get driven over by the car and you die, right? It's not like there are any hospitals that are functioning in this environment, right? So she's willing to kill a guy and steal his property and condemn him to death because now he's out in the middle of nowhere because this was a gas station or whatever it was in the middle of nowhere. So he's in the middle of nowhere. He's got no car. They did throw his wallet out of the window, if I remember rightly, or something like that, right? But regardless, it's not like his money or ID is going to do him any good, right? So she is willing to kill a guy and steal his car to save his family. Save her family. Sorry, save her family. Thank you for that correction. To save her family, she's willing to kill a guy because she's driving with him hanging off the side. He's that desperate because he knows he's dead. He's dead. Who's going to take him?
[18:13] He's got nothing. right so he's only like a wild book to him on can't hair i think well yeah they had to kind of say that right but but but she's basically she's either going to kill him directly by driving over him which is i thought was going to happen or he's just got nowhere to go he's in the middle of nowhere and he's got no food no water no nothing of value and he's going to just die out there right yeah so she's willing to kill a guy to save her family but later all the refugees have to come in. So she's willing to sacrifice other people to save her family, which I understand. That's genetic in-group preference. That's biology 101. She's willing to kill a guy to save her family directly, drive over him, leave him to starve. But she'll let everyone else, she wants everyone else to come into the compound, despite the fact that it's going to kill her family. This makes no sense.
[19:03] Implicitly because she supports the other woman's choice to do that. She's not the one that makes the decision, but she supports the other woman.
[19:10] Yeah. She's not fighting with the other a woman and saying, listen, I killed a guy to get my family here. I didn't do that so you could invite everyone in. I wouldn't even invite that guy into my van, his van that I stole. His van. And sorry, wasn't it, tell me if I may have this wrong. So the silver-haired guy, it was his wife who was driving out of the, who stole the van?
[19:32] No, no, no. It was not the silver-haired guy's wife who stole the van.
[19:35] It was his sister?
[19:36] The sister.
[19:37] Oh, his sister.
[19:38] So the silver guy is the patriarch of the homestead. His wife is the matriarch, and she's the one that's like, let some refugees in. She's always on the homestead. She stays there, and throughout the whole movie, she never leaves. It's her sister that's coming in the Tesla.
[19:51] Oh, yeah. Okay. Okay. Got it. In some relation. Right. But the sister is not saying, you cannot let... Listen, I've got blood on my hands. I killed a guy to save my family. You can't let these refugees in because we don't have the food, right? Yeah. So... So that drove me just nuts, that contradiction. And so let's move to the army couple, right? They were two ex-military, right? So they have a son, they have two sons, and then the girl that they adopted, right? Yeah. The girl who- Some sort of foster- Yeah, some sort of foster situation. She has some kind of terrible history or something like that. Abuse, something like that. So they're two soldiers. Yeah.
[20:28] Apparently, although they're both soldiers, their son knows nothing about guns because he's only gone hunting once. Yeah. The guy is a soldier of fortune obsessed guy who is still a hired security killer guy. Yes. But his son knows absolutely nothing about any kind of weaponry. So the son says, I want to go and guard. I want to go and guard the perimeter, right? Because I want to contribute, right? And the dad says, yeah. And the mom says, no. No. Not my baby. Absolutely not. It's all the other young men who have to go and risk their lives, but not my child. So again, your child should be kept safe from this, but other people should suffer, right? And I don't remember what her view was of the refugee situation, but I don't think she was super positive about it.
[21:15] What I remember is one situation where the homestead owner's wife was going to the front gate with the food. She was going to give food. It was one of the first times that happened, because it happened several times. It was like the rotting food that they were going to throw away, and they had to throw away. Yeah, yeah. Which, you know, the homestead owner is like, well, actually, we can't throw any stuff or anything away, you know, but. What you do, if it's food that's going to go bad, sorry to interrupt, you eat it. Yeah. And maybe it makes you five pounds heavier. But you need that. Sure. Your body is storing the food. You are a fridge, right? Sorry, I didn't mean to look at you directly. I look in the mirror. No, you are a fridge, right? The reason we gain fat is so that we can safely store calories for when we need it later. Like you remember that Scottish guy who lost like 200 pounds just by eating vitamins over 18 months because he's just eating his own ass every day, right? Yeah. Cannibalism. So the fact that the food is going bad does not mean you throw it out. It means you feed everyone up so they can store the calories in their waist or their butt or wherever, right? Dibs. And then you eat it later, right? Just that's what the fat is for. But sorry, go ahead. Yeah. So what I recall... Excuse me.
[22:25] Now, you know, if this was a movie, you'd be dead in the next scene, right? Oh no, a character has coughed. That must mean nobody coughs by accident. And then I'd look at my hand. And I'd hide it from the hiding place. Yeah, hide it. Yeah, and then you'd go out and do something heroic knowing you were going to die. Yeah, exactly. Clint Eastwood style. So go ahead. Yeah. All right. You will get to your point at some point. Eventually, whether it's by... Look at my croaking. Oh, goodness.
[22:50] All right. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, yeah. So we're just going to put James in a bubble boy outfit or maybe just put a condom over his head. Oh, my God. And this was the beginning of the pandemic movie. Yeah, yeah. So I was going to say, I remember the army wife was like looking at her. It's like, are you sure this is okay? But not like fighting her. Yeah. Yeah. None of the females disagree with anyone except their husbands. Yeah. So, yeah. So she's like, not my boy. And it's like, but it's a military situation. Now, they should, of course, have trained their boy. Right. The fact that it didn't, it's just for dramatic potential. So then there's this completely wildly unrealistic scene for me where the boy ends
[23:34] Up shooting a guy. Yeah. Right.
[23:35] And now you say he's a boy. What is he, 17? You know, he's like, you know, you can legally join the army at 17, I think, in the States with parental permission, I think 18 without. So he's of army age. He's got army parents and so on. Um, so, but they sent him up to guard the perimeter with another guy who knows nothing.
[23:54] Another young man.
[23:55] Who knows nothing. Yeah. Who knows so little that the guy who's only gone hunting once, which means he may have shot a gun once or twice. He's the one with the gun. He's the one with the gun. So they send two completely inexperienced people to guard the perimeter, even though they're military. That makes, that makes absolutely no sense. They would send someone experienced up at least for the first two, couple of times, right? Yep. So that you don't have the kid doing this, right? Right? So anyway, the completely retarded send two complete noobs up there with, by the way, a malfunctioning megaphone and say, well, the batteries are low, man. It's like, but they're military. You would check that first. Prepare for that. Yeah. Because that's essential because you need to warn people to get off your property. So they send two complete noobs up with a non-functioning megaphone. Which is completely like the military, competent military people would never let that happen, like in a million years, right? And then there's these two chunky guys come up and one of them, they're trying to figure out what's glinting up on the hill, right? And you said it's obviously a blind. And what was it you called?
[24:57] No, I said it's obviously a hunting blind.
[24:59] Right.
[25:00] So you've got guys, they're- A berm.
[25:02] I think you called
[25:02] It. Right. A berm or a hunting blind.
[25:04] Yeah, whatever.
[25:05] If you're out there in the woods, if you're out there hunting, ostensibly like these guys.
[25:09] Nothing reflects in the woods.
[25:10] Well, there's that. And you know what a- hunting berm is.
[25:14] Right these guys look like hunters yeah well-fed hunters hunters hunters with lots of winter ass they're definitely carbohydrate american so so these guys come up and they're trying to see what's glinting up there by looking through their rifle sight which is okay if it is somebody who's up there with a gun pointing a gun at them is the bad idea
[25:36] Well here's the thing like if i'm let's say i am in that shoot i i look up i'm and Now, why am I looking through my scope? Okay, but let's say I am looking through my scope because as a hunter or a man who knows guns, I'm aware that you point your gun and you're ready to blow whatever it is in front of it away.
[25:53] You don't use it as a psych aid.
[25:54] Yeah. And so, okay, let's say these guys are just, you know, incompetent or negligent, whatever. He's there for a good two or three minutes pointing his gun up and using the scope and stirring this thing. A, you recognize it as a hunting blind. B, once you've got, like, reflections coming off, you're like, oh, that's binoculars. Someone's watching me. Or what you really do in your mind is you say, like, oh, someone is pointing a gun at me.
[26:19] Right.
[26:19] Because you write, it's the glint of the scope. Oh, I'm pointing a gun at them. Holy, you know, and you stop, you point down, you point away.
[26:26] Right. Now, we don't know exactly how far these men were. I know this sounds like detail-oriented, but for me, it's really, really important, because the logic of the story is really important, because this was a pivotal moment, right? So, why don't the men say hello? Hello, anyone up there, right? The hunter guys.
[26:42] He does yell. One of them does yell at some point, like, whoa, what is that? Hello. Because after they do the warning shot. From my recall, he does kind of yell.
[26:50] Okay, so, but you would do that ahead of time, right?
[26:53] You would do that ahead of time.
[26:54] Hello, anyone up there? Yes. We come in peace, you know, because you've got weapons and lawless society, right? So you would know that, right?
[27:01] But it doesn't take far before you would really need the megaphone. Like, from what I...
[27:06] We were discussing this last night. So, yeah, go over that logic.
[27:09] From what I've shot at, it was my buddy's rain.
[27:13] Mall. Sorry, just kidding.
[27:14] No, I'm pretty sure that it was 100 yards, and it was at least 80 yards what we were plinking. And even at that range, you've still got to account for bullet drop and all that.
[27:26] And that's in a wind-free environment.
[27:29] Relatively wind-free, because there's berms on the side. But it's still like, it's enough distance, even there, that you boom, and then you hear. It's far enough away.
[27:37] The sound takes a moment to come back.
[27:39] Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so to my mind, they could have been a couple hundred feet away, if that. And you would.
[27:47] Still- You can call at a couple, you can yell at a couple hundred feet.
[27:51] If you focus.
[27:52] If there's not a lot going on. No, but then you cut your hands, you just give it. You would try, right?
[27:55] Well, I think they could have. But even then, like from that distance, like you can yell. And if someone were yelling, to my mind, from what I was shooting at, I would have heard like.
[28:04] Woo, woo, woo. No, I get that. But at least you would establish that there was a human being up there. Totally agree. They didn't even know what it was, right? So you yell something. You may not get the words, but you get, if two people cut their hands because you had two guys up there. If two guys cut their hands and yell down the hill, you're going to hear. Or if it's far enough that you can't possibly hear, the odds of that kid making that shot drop to zero effectively. Fair, fair. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So either they were close enough that you can yell, or they're so far that the only possible way you can make any kind of sound that reaches them is with a megaphone, in which case they won't probably even hear the words. They'll just hear, right? If they're far enough away that yelling doesn't do any good, then the odds of a guy who's gone hunting once, hitting a guy square in the chest, shot from a thousand yards i mean that's like that lethal weapon like a wanton guy in a thousand gonna made that shot like that's that's just crazy right right uh and even though you were saying you got your laser sights you got all this that and you
[29:01] Would have and let's just you would have to account for bullet drop.
[29:04] Bullet drop and wind there was the trees were blowing yeah
[29:07] Yeah yeah well i mean yeah that's fair yeah yeah yeah that's fair now that's that's a difficult shot for for a brand new you know it's a virtually.
[29:16] Impossible shot come on how much would you bet on a guy hitting a target this big from a thousand feet when he never shot that kind of gun before and he had almost no experience shooting and the other guy didn't know what he was doing otherwise he would have said you take the shot you're the expert now that
[29:32] I think about it like when i was making those shots my buddy was spotting for me and if when i missed he'd be like you know you're you're up you know right.
[29:38] That's what they call that's what they do for they call
[29:41] So in this one, the kid hits him like first try.
[29:44] First try.
[29:44] Yeah.
[29:45] Also, they know they're seeing the burn. They're seeing the burn. And then he does a warning shot.
[29:54] He does a shot over their heads,
[29:55] Right? So you're looking up, something's glinting. These guys are hunters, right? And then there's a warning shot. So why are they standing? Why is he standing there still squinting up at his gun?
[30:03] For a minute, he's like pointing this gun.
[30:06] Right. Even though there's a warning shot. They don't like, whoa, whoa, whoa. Yeah. You know, we're hands off weapons. We turn around, you know, we slowly, like, whatever. Or stop pointing the gun at the place where you've received a warning shot. Like, it was just, it was so... It was a really ridiculous. contrived it just it's contrived to traumatize the kid right yeah the hunters were absolute idiots because when they got that warning shot it was like this does someone did someone hit did someone get a get a get a mark on it like like did someone shoot an animal like not they like when they were saying i don't remember like even them saying like hello up there like shouting yeah it was all completely contrived yeah and then the young man who shoots the hunter is traumatized for like the rest of the movie. However, the mom who steals the van, almost drives over the guy and leaves him to certain death is totally fine.
[31:00] Totally fine. Come on. Wouldn't that haunt you a little? You stole the guy's car, condemned him to certain death, almost drove over him.
[31:07] And as you mentioned, nobody's got family somewhere else that they're like lamenting the absence of.
[31:14] Yeah. So the purpose of good art is not to say, here's how people should act, or wouldn't it be cool if they did this? That's superhero garbage, right?
[31:22] It's comic book Saturday morning.
[31:23] It's to put, and you guys talked about this sort of comic book AI dialogue, and it was terrible. Yeah. So what you do is you say, okay, so these are people who've got, they're Christians, right? They're family oriented. They have grandparents, they have aunts, they have uncles, cousins, the siblings, and so on, right? And They have fled a city. They have no idea what's happened to their extended family. They don't know if they're alive or dead. They can't call anyone. They can't get any information. And everyone's totally fine. And the only person,
[31:55] The only people they're
[31:56] Worried about are the refugees, not what the heck has happened to my family. I mean, I would be tormented. I'm not even close to my family of origin, but I'd still be kind of tormented about, you know, what would happen to you guys? What would happen to my friends? What would happen to... And I would not be like, well, I guess we're in this new world now. Let's flirt and let's have fun.
[32:15] And if you are in that place, you don't give up about the refugees.
[32:20] Why would you care more about the refugees? Nobody ever said what's happened to our grandparents. Nobody ever said what's happened to my aunt and uncle. Nobody ever said, I can't believe we don't know what happened to my sister-in-law or anything, right? Nobody. I mean, they're willing to risk death to go back and get a dog, but they don't care about their extended family. there's not one little bit and this young woman the daughter oh the daughter oh yeah yeah yeah oh the daughter oh the hans blunt trunk heart plant trunk transplant kid okay so she's just fun and chatty and flirty and happy and let me tell you all about peach wine and let me do this and have you a little and it's just like the entire world has just been destroyed yeah all like she was more upset about not being asked out to the prom than the death of her entire civilization. That's schizo. That's beyond bizarre. There's no humanity in any of the writing. And the actor should have been like, no, I'm not going to be giggly, chatty, tween girl, because the entire world has just been destroyed. Remember at the beginning when I was really upset because I hadn't been asked to the prom? I went to the prom, but I hadn't been asked to the prom, and it was really upsetting for me. How is it that I'm so upset about not going to the prom, but then when the entire civilization gets destroyed and I'll never go to a prom again, And I'm totally fine and tatty and happy and giggly.
[33:34] Right. Right. Yeah.
[33:36] Oh, my God. That was pretty off-putting. Oh, my God. I don't mean to root for radiation. I really feel that that's wrong. That is just, that feels fundamentally wrong to me. And I don't mean to, I hope that the refugees end up eating them. That also feels wrong. And I rebel against that morally. But I have a twinge because, oh, my God. Oh, my God. And the nobility of the woman who's just like, and the music. She lets the refugees in, right? Right. Whose wife was that?
[34:04] That was the patriarch's wife. She was the matriarch. She was the matriarch. Of the homestead.
[34:09] Oh, my gosh. So she lets all the refugees in, and they're all thankful to her. And she's walking, and she's so proud, and the music is swelling.
[34:16] And that night, I realized I had the love in me all along, or something like that.
[34:21] Yeah, because you can eat love. You can eat love. What you do is you open the chest, and you fry up the heart. Anyway. so so like this this virtue signaling well I it's just we're gonna find a way and blah blah blah right there's
[34:35] Something that really pisses me off it's.
[34:39] It's so corrupting. Sorry, losing the thread a bit here.
[34:42] Okay, no, no, it's this virtue signal without any reference to some kind of objective, corrective, universal morality, moral system. Is there something more evil, more destructive? I'm really getting to a place where some Christianity without UPB is harmful.
[34:59] Well, or at least without the Christian injunction that the man is the head of the household, right? Because this is Angela Merkel right there, right? We're going to let millions of people in. We'll find a way. We'll figure it out, right? Which basically means that if there's a lot of conflict, the men are going to get called up. But anyway, so this, I'm heart swelling in love, and I'm taking the immediate gratification of everyone thanking me with no plan about how it's going to work. That is absolutely appalling. And she does this. So the silver-haired patriarch guy, who, by the way, this drives me crazy too so just before we get to that so he hires these soldier of fortune guys to come with machine guns to protect his entire homestead and his family and he's like well I don't really want to use anti-violence a FEMA's going to come and everything's going to be just fine like then why are you hiring all of these people with machine guns to protect your family if you think there's no one to protect them from that
[35:56] Was more just like an unrealistic unrealistic another thing that was really disappointing about the movie i'm like okay we're going to get that real right wing more conservative more libertarian perspective and these people were just like california conservatives they were milquetoast they were they were caricatures caricatures of a conservative.
[36:16] So the patriarch guy the guy's in charge of the homestead who's right he gets shot and there's you know not particularly important the scene but he gets shot and he is in a coma for 10 days now his wife knows for an absolute fact that he does not want these gates opened and the refugees let in because they've lost some significant portion of the grain to the rats or whatever got into the grain depository right repository so she knows for absolute fact that he believes and he's got the math she doesn't argue with the math she just says that math is unreal
[36:56] And I can't believe that the other guy is considered crazy,
[36:58] The guy off his meds. This is more off the meds, right? So she knows for an absolute fact that the man who funded, controlled, created, and is in charge of this whole homestead, he absolutely forbids her from letting the refugees in. He gets shot. He's in a coma. And that's when she does it. That is so jaw-droppingly a violation of the marital vow. Not even the obey thing, just basic. Like, oh, he's almost dead? Great, I'll disobey him. I'll go against our marital vows. Like, that is so jaw-droppingly horrifying, I can't even tell you. I can't even tell you. That's worse than having an affair. Right? What would you think of a woman-
[37:41] If there's survival.
[37:42] What would you think of a woman whose husband forbids her from having an affair, and then he's shot and in a coma, and she goes and bangs the guy?
[37:50] Vile. It's beyond vile.
[37:52] Yeah. Well, he could die because they didn't know he's coming back, right? So now that my husband is shot and dying, I'm going to go let the refugees in. I'm jaw dropped. And then he wakes up and she's like, I trust you. Which means that his God is not God. His God is not math. His God is not reality. His God is not survival. His God is his wife. The female worship that is in modern Christianity. And of course, it is in the modern left, right? Which is worships the single female,
[38:21] Right? Absolutely.
[38:21] So this gynocentric female worship where women can do whatever the hell makes them feel good and men have to figure out how to make it work is absolutely astonishing. Oh, you don't have to have babies. We'll figure something out. Or the fat nurse. Oh, you can all go work for the government. We can have massive debt. You can have endless abortions.
[38:39] The fat nurse, the finger wags at the military man for having his son in the front line and the son shooting the guy. She's like, oh, she starts dressing him down. There's like wisdom pops up out of, you know, chunky woman. Yeah.
[38:55] You're murdering the food. You're murdering other people.
[38:58] But I remember now that.
[39:00] No, no, pause on that for a second. Because that woman who was like, she doesn't know the circumstances. She does not know the circumstances. She just straight up calls the kid to his face, a child. She straight up calls him a murderer with having no thought to the circumstances.
[39:15] Right.
[39:16] And then they're like, get that kid out of here. because the little psychic girl wanders in, right? And it's like- Whose child is this? If I had a kid who was, first of all, he was obeying orders. The kid who shot, like the man who shot, he phones his dad, the military guy, and says, there's a guy pointing a gun at me. He's not backing down. I fired a warner shot. He's still pointing his gun at me. And the father says, shoot, right? He yells, screams over and over. Shoot. Take the shot. With his 20 plus years of military experience. Yeah. And then this absolute witch of a nurse calls the kid a murderer because she saw the guy die and she feels upset. She's upset and why anyone blamed the kid is beyond me. He was taking orders from his military father with 20 years of experience who put him up there. And if somebody with 20 years of experience tells me what to do, I'm going to do it. Seriously. Yeah.
[40:10] No, right.
[40:10] Yep. I mean, if I'm going hunting and there's some guy who's got way more experience than I have, right? And he says, don't take the shot. I think there are people out there. I'm not going to take the shot. Right? Yeah. Of course not. No, absolutely. I mean, my doctor has 20 years plus. I don't have any medical training. So if my doctor says do X, Y, and Z, well, then I'll Google and not do it because it's most pandemics.
[40:35] Talk with me about this, guys. As a man, don't you have a bit of a martial spirit? I hate the state. I would never join the military. But if I were in that situation, I understand the imperative of orders and following orders.
[40:49] He's trying to save his son's life because the son had fired a warning shot. and some guy was still pointing a gun at them. A sniper rifle, because it had a scope, right? I mean, that's a hunting rifle, but with a kind of sniper scope, right? Sure. So anybody who points a gun at you and does not retreat when you fire a warning shot, I assume is considered imminent danger. So he was yelling at the son to shoot because he thought the other guy was about to shoot his son.
[41:14] Yeah.
[41:14] I can understand that, but sorry, go ahead. No, no, I totally agree.
[41:18] I'm saying there's an instinct for this. There's a masculine martial instinct for this kind of a situation.
[41:23] Yeah.
[41:23] You know, you follow the order. You continue.
[41:26] Well, especially because your dad is an expert. Yeah. And your dad has literally been hired as a military.
[41:31] Biological connection. Your dad is telling you to shoot. Your dad is.
[41:33] Telling you to shoot. Yeah. Your dad is telling you, do not waste all the time I spent raising you by getting shot. Right? Yeah. And also, if you get shot, I've got to go out and hunt the guy that puts me at risk, which puts the rest of the family at risk.
[41:43] And this guy's dying anyway. Either way, this guy's going down.
[41:45] Yeah. If he shoots you, I'm going to have to go kill him anyway, because I'm a soldier of fortune guy and it's a lawless society and we've gone back to Hatfield versus McCoy's right and nobody I mean this wouldn't happen in this movie but nobody said whoa whoa whoa you're calling him a murderer what if it was this little boy my boy was on the table bleeding out right right right I didn't tell you know if I if I uh didn't give the order a shoot or he hesitated and he was shot Get out of here. If this was your son- Is it your son? Yeah. But that's sad because maybe that's the only argument that would work.
[42:17] Maybe. You need to make it personal rather than principle. But the fact that this woman, the nurse, and thank you for bringing that up, the fact that she said he's a murderer, this is straight up murder, but knowing nothing about the circumstances and the fact that none of the men said, you are absolutely awful. We're putting you outside the gates. Right. Seriously. Right. You are a liability. You have now traumatized this kid for life by now implanting the idea that he's a murderer in his head. Yeah. right? Like you have bypassed the chain of command, parental authority, right? You are now calling this kid a murderer, which is incredibly scarring psychologically. I mean, I think he was more scarred by the nurse than even shooting because if his dad had said, look, it was him or you, man.
[42:55] And the thing is too, after the other guy flees, right? After his friend gets shot, right? So he's willing to run, but not with the warning shot. I mean, come on, right? So they don't know if the guy was going to shoot the kid because he dies, right? And so the guy didn't live and say, no, we have no intention. I was just trying to figure out who was up there. So there's absolutely no indication that the kid was not in mortal danger. There was every indication that he was in mortal danger. And this is, as far as I understand it, this is the rules engagement. If you're a cop and someone's pointing a gun at you, you shoot them.
[43:31] And this is the example- A warning shot.
[43:33] Is really nice. Sorry.
[43:34] No, no. This is the example that supposedly right-wing conservative men, or a lot of them out there, will be giving their kids as like a decent moral value, moral system, moral movie, all right? And the men in this are eunuch cuck subs to the women.
[43:48] Oh, it's awful.
[43:49] And this is the example that a lot of quote-unquote right-wing or conservative or non-leftist culture has for their children.
[43:57] Oh, this ain't an evil Hollywood movie, but I could, I was counting out all of these like, no, this is the same old Hollywood bullshit. So I remember where I was going with that, with the lack of skepticism for government. All right. So you have these operators, these, all right. Yeah. Yeah. So you have these operators. What are operators? Okay. An operator is, how can.
[44:19] I forward your
[44:19] Call? It's a masculine geek term for like a real soldier.
[44:24] Like he's an operator. He knows where he's got. A soldier of fortune guy, a top G with a gun.
[44:27] Not soldier of fortune. Like they've done time in the US military and yeah, all the work, private stuff. But like, these are, these are true, super superior soldiers.
[44:36] What do you mean they've not done time in the military, but they're soldiers?
[44:38] No, they have done. That's what I'm saying. No, they've said specifically they have done time in the military. I mean, then they may work contract stuff, but they're also like bread and butter Americans and stuff.
[44:48] Okay. So the soldier of fortune stuff is just that they're not paid to be security guys after, but they're really experienced soldiers.
[44:55] No, no, no. They are paid to do private security. These guys will go off, like Blackwater, they'll go off there. Those are operators, a lot of them. All right. The call comes in on the radio as they're fleeing, all right, there's a nuke hit, and then all of a sudden it's like, oh, we're trying to figure out what's going on, like, Russia's hacked. Anybody, like, in that situation, any real man operating this, you'd be like, well, it's most likely our government more than anyone else. Like, they're going to laugh at the idea that- It's some external thing.
[45:21] Right?
[45:21] It was Russia, right? They're not going to take it as, like, that's the truth.
[45:25] Right, right, right.
[45:25] You know? Like, don't kiss my- Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, it's just as likely, and especially in reality, it's just as likely to be our own fucking three-letter agencies.
[45:33] Right, right, right. Yeah, so I was just kind of appalled at just the sentimentality and the syruppiness and all of this and the programming. Basically, the whole thing was, it's happy wife, happy life, but with guns.
[45:47] And the matriarch, the gray-haired man.
[45:50] The matriarch? The patriarch.
[45:51] Sorry, well, he was.
[45:53] Do not misgender Mr. Silverbox.
[45:55] Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[45:57] Ice blue eyes rule.
[45:58] No, and him, this guy who's the one who was competent enough to go out into the marketplace and earn all the money to build this mega, you know.
[46:05] And forethought enough to hire the machine gun and soldier for you guys.
[46:08] And he's like, FEMA's going to come get us. Of course we're all going to. Like, no, bullshit. This homestead situation is filled with people who are skeptical of our government or of government in general and know that it's like, from their perspective.
[46:20] Most populations, who's going to believe FEMA,
[46:21] Right? A necessary, they will call it at least a necessary evil.
[46:25] Yeah, yeah. You know, and like, no, there's, there's, there's just, it's unrealistic. It's unrealistic.
[46:30] Now, and we know this for a simple biological evolutionary fact, that the only way that we evolved and survived, particularly as Northern climate people, whether it's sort of the East Asians up in Siberia or the Europeans in Northern Europe, is that the only way that we survived is to not let the refugees in, in situations of emergency winter food rationing, right? Right. So for a simple fact, we evolved. And listen, the fact that the women have their hearts out there on their sleeves and care about the world, I think it's wonderful. I mean, of course, the caring that is designed for 10 children, unfortunately, gets focused on often one or two children, which is one of the helicopter over-mothering stuff. But the fact that women care about outsiders is great. I think it's really nice because it means that they can embrace people into the community. And they care about strangers down the road, but they'll make them food and come visit them. I think that's lovely. Outdoor preference.
[47:27] Not to the enemy tribe,
[47:28] Obviously, but after preference is part of how we build communities because, you know, men are a little bit solitary, right? We're a little bit of like basement futon and Xbox, right? So I get you to say, so the fact that the women have this empathy is great. I have no problem with it. And we know that I can't complain about anything to do with female nature because women plus men got us to the top of the food chain and the only brilliant species in the universe that's cognitively able to process concepts and have these kinds of conversations. This was a team effort from men and women, so I'm not going to fault any female instincts or any male instincts, but we do know for a simple fact, biologically, mathematically, calorie-wise, that the men had to override female sympathy in order for their families to survive in a time of scarcity. And that is absolutely known. That is an evolutionary fact. It could not have gone any other way.
[48:16] Because when the women's sympathies overrode the male math, the family died off. The community died off. Right? Yeah. And so men saying we can't, and women saying we want to, that the men had to override that.
[48:30] And that's great. And the fact that the women sometimes override the men and say, we need to be more community oriented. I mean, everyone who's married and his wife is part of a community says, so-and-so is having a birthday. So-and-so is having a christening. We have to remember such and such. We can't go over there without food. Like they're very communal minded. And I think it's beautiful. It really is. not the way my brain works, but it's great. And I defer to, my wife is very communal-minded. When we have people over, I mean, she works for days ahead of time. She gets everything ready. We had people over at Christmas, and it was like a beautiful time. And if I'd be like, hey, I had some potato chips like that.
[49:09] That's just not how I work, right? But so the community-minded stuff is great, and it needs to be overwritten by male math. The male- isolation side is great for hunting and war, but it needs to be overridden by female community thing, community area, right? And that's virtue. Like we went out last night and what did my wife say to me about my pants? Change them. Change them.
[49:33] I wasn't present for that.
[49:34] No, no, I'm wearing my usual highfalutin gym shorts. And my wife was like, no, if it doesn't have belt loops, you're not leaving the house, right? She's right about that. She's right about that. So having the women override in terms of community is great.
[49:49] Having men override in terms of scarcity is essential, right? And it was all just one way. It was all just the women rule, the women rule, and the men just have to figure it out. And that is female worship, and that is a blasphemy. That is a false idol. The worship of women rather than the worship of God and reality.
[50:07] Well, no, a lot of stuff, like, it is a recipe for the devil. Like, that's how the devil's going to get in and corrupt things.
[50:13] Oh, have you seen that meme of, like, God says, there's only one rule, and then you see a picture of a woman naked with an apple in her mouth. So yes, men are programmed to defer to women because women historically have chosen who they mate with and a lot of men didn't mate. So we're programmed to defer to women, and there's nothing wrong with that. Again, I can't complain about any evolution that got us to this table with this technology. But to defer to women relentlessly as a form of worship is provoking and producing the sin of vanity. And you saw this. So what happened was the women are all like, a miracle will save us. A miracle will save us. I don't believe in math. I believe in miracles. And then there was this very contrived thing afterwards, which we don't really get into about how they could survive even with the refugees. Although we don't know that for sure, about how they grew potatoes by baking the bread at night in the greenhouse.
[51:03] All these brilliant people didn't think of all these simple things, but the refugees knew how to solve that problem.
[51:08] No, there's a guy who knows how to make fireplaces. Anyway, so this worship of the female, and you can really see this in Christian communities, and not just Christian, in the left as well, the worship of the female and the exoriation of the male, it is devilish. In the same way that you wouldn't want, obviously, some fascist regime where only the men are worshipped, the women are used as breeding cattle, right? The women are denigrated and the men are worshipped. You don't want that either. You need that balance. You are feverishly typing.
[51:35] I'm taking notes. I just want to lose it because I'll lose stuff.
[51:37] Go for it.
[51:38] Go for it. All right. So now you were making the case about how we as Europeans, the survival situation, yada, yada, yada. I was just kidding it. This is also why we moralize.
[51:48] This is also why we spend time. Morality is based on scarcity.
[51:50] Well, no. Yes, I agree with that. But though, this is also why in the times of relative peace, we were, you shouldn't be doing this. You should stop smoking. You should eat this. You should go work out. You should blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. so that whenever the time comes, and you've made this case on the show before, it's like, brother, I spoke. I said something. Where the hell were you? Sorry, you're at the end of the gate and you're not coming in, but I told you.
[52:11] I gave you plenty of heads up.
[52:13] I told you to buy Bitcoin. Or not tell you to, but I made the case.
[52:18] I said Bitcoin was quite important like 12 years ago.
[52:21] And it's like, and where the hell were you when I was speaking? So I am now guilt-free. My conscience is completely clean.
[52:27] And that's also, I would make the case why women in that time of relative peace. It's a virtue. It's a positive thing for them to be charitable and community and all that stuff. So that if that time arrives and when it does, you say, hey, the reason you got fat on your sides right now was because of me back then. So burn that to take care of your own ass.
[52:46] Right. Also, handing out food to the refugees keeps the refugees at the gates. Rather than saying, there's nothing for you here. And none of the guys say to the bald guy. Go find a farm and wait this out. Waiting at the gates is not going to work. And the only reason they waited at the gates was they kept getting food. And that traps them in a situation that's completely unsustainable. Because they did talk about winter coming. I guess it was up in the Rockies or whatever. So the winter was going to come, but are they going to freeze to death at the state?
[53:16] Other thing, minor continuity thing, but it drives me crazy. First of all, I had no idea how much time was passing until the end of the movie when it said 30 days. And the guy had been in a coma for 10 for 10 so all of this happened in three weeks yeah come on yeah come on like that's that's crazy right all of this stuff happening in three weeks Like, my kids are, well, I guess you can starve in three weeks, right? But here's the thing. And as a bald guy, this drives me a little crazy, right? And it's a minor point, but it's the detail that matters, right? So the guy's out in front, there's a guy with a shaved head, right? And a beard. So he's not got alopecia or he's not in chemo or something, right? So he can grow hair and his head remains perfectly shaved throughout the entire movie. Throughout an entire month.
[53:59] End of the world, but you know, you're going to get those clippers, keep them charged and running.
[54:02] Well, we are starving to death, kids, but daddy's got to go and bick his head.
[54:07] Right.
[54:07] Like, that just makes... And nobody grew a beard. Like, oh, so they're all just, you know, we got to... I mean, it's the end of the world, man, but you got to stay shaved. Yeah. I mean, isn't that kind of the first thing you wouldn't worry about? And the ones that did have beards, particularly the military, again, they're all like perfectly... Perfectly shaved. Like, the beard is coiffed. I know that's not the word for it. Fine. Nobody can come in except you, the barber. Okay, you can come in because we've got to stay groomed. right? There's a salon right next to the med bag. Right. That's what it was. Yeah. So that bothered me because an overemphasis on grooming in a post-apocalyptic scenario is a bit gynocentric as well. We've got to stay pretty for the women. It's like, what are you, like dancing boys in Afghanistan? It's terrible. Yeah. It's just those little bits of continuity, right? It just drove me crazy. It means they really hadn't thought things through as far as how everything was going to... Those little details, it was really distracting for me because I'm looking at that guy like why is he still as close shaved it's been at least i thought it had been months right right so it turns out in some weird maybe they were traveling near the speed of light some weird time compression thing it'd only been a couple of weeks but those little details really matter it's like it's like the the guys in the middle ages with their perfectly trimmed hair and beards it's like you didn't have that back then right so it just you know give me the full full-on bush beard right all right yeah i did we cover i think we covered most of it but i think we covered most of everything here i cleverly didn't take notes but i think we got most of everything
[55:35] No, I think we got most of everything.
[55:39] Well, I haven't thought here, John, like, if you were on the left and you saw the rise of the right and you wanted to capitalize on that, this is the movie you would make.
[55:48] I think there is a certain amount of, and you talked about this after the movie, Jarrod, and I think it was a really good point, there's a certain amount of conscious marketing.
[55:56] Oh, the whole thing was a commercial.
[55:58] It was a constant. We're going to be about the tough guys facing down scarcity and post-apocalyptic, and we don't need no government and all of that.
[56:06] And I was interested in that as a cultural phenomenon. I wouldn't agree with all of that, but I was interested in that as a cultural phenomenon, but it turned into the same old, treacly, gynocentric wishes, feelings over reality, wishes over faith in God. Maybe I'm being too harsh,
[56:20] But the work of the devil. This is how you corrupt morality. This is how you corrupt the fight between good and evil, this kind of thing.
[56:26] It did seem kind of cynical. and it did seem like for two to i mean this is why for me the novel the present was so important for me to write was i really wanted to write about men's needs men's preferences and male authority right i mean the novel is basically about oliver having authority in in the realm of morality and reality and rachel coming around rachel submits to she escapes vanity she submits to authority. Now, the authority happens to be somewhat personified in Oliver, but I view men because we generally have to deal more with objective reality than women do. And women generally go into professions that are persons in feeling space, nothing wrong with that. But we men are supposed to deliver some of the principles of objective reality to women, and women are supposed to deliver some of the principles of relationships to men. And that's a great exchange, right? I'll bring you objective reality, you bring me a community. Men suck at building community, but women are obviously not quite as objective because they're dealing with the feelings and the people more, right? And again, this is just a trend. It could be 51-49, but it's still a trend. So I think that's a great deal. But all it is, is about provoking women's unreal psychosis by saying, you can act entirely based on vanity and feelings.
[57:42] And the woman who opened the gates, oh, the angel, the sunbeams hitting her, I'm full of love. And it's like, but there's no plan here, right? So it's provoking the vanity of women, and the vanity of women to overcome rules and have men pay the consequences is kind of the story of Adam and Eve, right? Just one rule, right? Just one rule.
[58:01] And, of course, you know, what can men say when there's a naked woman offering them fruit, right? So...
[58:08] Men's job is to deliver some aspects of this more empirical reality to women. And women's job is to deliver more of the relationships to men. Because relationships are what make the world worthwhile, but in order to have relationships, people actually have to survive in reality. So this combination is a really great yin and yang of men and women. And this was just entirely on the female side. Women can basically kill a guy and never worry about it again. One guy takes direct orders from a military expert and he's traumatized for life. And the only way he can be saved is with a woman who's completely psycho, giggling about the end of the world in agreement. And praying for him.
[58:47] She prayed for him.
[58:48] But praying is just a wish that men will fix it somehow. Right? So this worship of the feelings, this worship of fantasy, and this elevation of women to – because the women let all the refugees in and then the men figured out how to fix it. Right? which is to say that, well, women just have to have faith, but men actually have to solve the problem, is it says that men can never disagree with or oppose women's feelings. And that is absolutely, completely, and totally toxic. In the same way, it would be that women can never, ever oppose men's, quote, objectivity. Because men can say, we deal with tangible, empirical, material reality, right? So we're friends, right? Does the friendship exist in tangible, empirical, material reality. No. The relationship doesn't exist in reality, right? It exists because we're here talking across the table and we like chatting and we enjoy each other's company and we've worked together and all of that and done some great things in the world. tangible, material, empirical reality, no, does not exist. So women have to remind us that the stuff that doesn't, quote, exist is really, really important. And we have to remind women that the stuff that does exist is also really important, like math and food and grain and hunting and danger and enemies and murderers. So yeah, for women to bring the unreal to men is great, because that reminds us of the importance of relationships. For men to bring the real to women is also important, because then we get to not just be friends, but also live. because the relationship doesn't exist in the future if we don't have enough food.
[1:00:17] So in the movie, they do say, and this, you know, my love will heal the world woman says something along the lines of like.
[1:00:23] We are the world.
[1:00:25] No, those are some lines from the movie, you know? The, what'd she say? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. We survive, but we got to like, life has to be worth living.
[1:00:36] Yeah, and that's totally right.
[1:00:37] I absolutely agree. Totally agree. But that message has been so like viciously.
[1:00:44] Created malicious to for for meaning to exist life has to be sustainable yes for life to be meaningful relationships have to be valuable i totally get that and that's a that's we we give the relationships to the women and they give the material objective stuff to us to some degree right but we have to respect each other's expertise in this realm and i'm really really sick and tired of all of this culture that says all we have to do is worship women and everything will be great that is corrupt to beyond and and it does it is demonic in and to your point in that it provokes female vanity that all i have to do is feel and wish and act and i just have to wait until my husband is shot and that i can do the exact opposite of what he's told is is necessary to survive that's demonic sorry this might
[1:01:23] Be too much.
[1:01:23] If you want to get your way get your husband shot this
[1:01:26] Might be too much of a tangent but imagine the power trip if you're this kind of like corporate plastic wrapped concern a christian woman that you're you've married god not but not in the virtuous sense, but you're getting orders from God directly. Imagine the female power trip.
[1:01:44] It turns women into the mystery religion cultists, right? In that, you can't talk to God, you can only talk to me. And this is why when the woman says, I had faith, and the man says, I believe in you, right? He's saying, you are the pipeline to all that is true and good. I can't talk to God directly. What if God was telling him to keep the refugees out because he wants the people who prepared to survive, right? Good grief. Right? He can't talk to God directly. He can only access God through his wife.
[1:02:12] And that is absolutely,
[1:02:14] That's the exact opposite of Christianity. That's darkness. Right? I mean, what is the Garden of Eden is, well, you access Satan through Eve, right?
[1:02:21] And so this idea that the women are the holders of the mystery religion and they just have to feel and wish, and all men can do is trail after them and make their wishes come true, absolutely demonic and wretched for the kid.
[1:02:34] Angel Studios owes some.
[1:02:36] They- Hey, this more than cancels out sound of freedom for me. This is- Yeah, it's pretty dark and nobody seemed to be... They've got something to
[1:02:44] Make up for and apologize for, my opinion.
[1:02:46] I just, you know, can you imagine that if the woman had been shot and the man disobeyed her and she said, after she woke up from being shot and she realized that he'd completely betrayed their marriage, said, I worship you. If the woman had said to the man, I worship you, after he did something terrible to her while she was shot and she woke up and said, I worship you. I mean, that would be considered psycho. That would be like a codependent in the extreme abusive relationship that he utterly betrayed her while she was shot and dying. And he cared more about the refugees than her. Like you sit by your bed and help your husband lives rather than go out. So if the woman had been shot and the man had completely betrayed her and then she woke up and said, I just worship you. That would be psycho. That would be so unhealthy. He went out and got all the refugees driven away or shot. Right. You know, from the gate. You know, and the fences, he broke all the fencing, the non-fenced area around the property, razor wires, you got guard towers, you know, everything else. And everybody's been trained. Yeah. You know, it's like they went a whole hog into, we're going to make this, this has to be a fortress because, you know, my wife just got shot. Except that would be slightly, that would be more survivalist, right? No, I get it. I get it. But that would be, that would be the closest I could think of a betrayal of her in that context. Right. Yeah.
[1:04:07] Yeah.
[1:04:08] If he had betrayed her in the most foundational way while she was shot, and then she woke up and said, I just worship you, that would be psycho. She wouldn't be angry. She wouldn't be upset. She would just become, the religion would be him. And that would be, I don't know, some bizarre far-right fascist fantasy of abs and peaked caps. I don't know. It's just too strange for words. So, all right. Anything else that we wanted to add at the end? Well, you know,
[1:04:31] It's been so much fun tearing this apart. I do appreciate that aspect of it. It's been rather cathartic. It was costly, man.
[1:04:39] It was costly. I don't often feel my bladder visibly contract in the course of a movement. I'm like, I mean, I don't often order popcorn, but I would have needed the bag. I felt I needed the bag near the end.
[1:04:51] And I think there's something optimistic and celebratory in the fact that, for the moment, the left seems to be taking a big cultural correction. And you've got time and breath to...
[1:05:03] Yeah, the vampires sleep during the day.
[1:05:04] I'm with you, but for the moment, we have the time and breath to critique the false right. Or, you know, the...
[1:05:11] It's the woke right. It's just the woke right to me.
[1:05:13] This is the joke right. Yeah, yeah.
[1:05:15] This is terrible. So, okay. Happy New Year to everyone, because this is our last show of 2024. We're wringing it out with a testosterone-laced ranty bang. So that's excellent. And we will, of course, see everyone on the flip side of the new year. And thank you, everyone, for next year is going to be the 20th year. next year because I first published in 2005 on Lou Rockwell Lou Rockwell was my very first it was the Statement Society and Examination of Alternatives it was my first essay and it was 2005 so next year is 20 years of pure unbridled straight to the veins philosophy with only a few minor holdbacks so yes it has been an incredible ride and we've got a lot to celebrate next year still uh north of the grave is always a good thing so hey yeah have yourself a wonderful new year if you'd like to help out the show of course freedomaine.com slash donate uh you may consider that rather than a subscription to never mind that studio anyway so freedomaine.com slash donate thanks everyone so much uh sorry izzy just is there anything so izzy uh sorry just as we end
[1:06:25] Up here oh i heard you guys for the last half hour so
[1:06:27] So So, Izzy, we did give you a great sorrow as to why... Come sit here. We did give you a great sorrow as to why you weren't part of the movie review. No, sit here, Izzy. Yes, yes.
[1:06:37] Oh, okay, okay.
[1:06:37] So, you had some thoughts, I think, if I remember rightly.
[1:06:42] Yeah, so...
[1:06:44] I walked out basically.
[1:06:47] No, actually, I took a very slow walk out because I did not want to take my time. So I did a very evil thing. I snuck a drink into the theater. And no one noticed, it's all I'm going to say. But I drank the drink, and I had to use the bathroom. So I left.
[1:07:04] It's just like, I need to go to the bathroom. I'm like, yeah, right.
[1:07:07] This was a huge theater. Like, genuinely, there were so many different venues or whatever the heck they're called where you could see the movies. like the actual theaters. So it's a big building. There were like four different bathrooms. I went to the one at the entrance and we were at the very end, like the opposite end, because I was like,
[1:07:26] Let me out. So, sorry, the joke I made earlier was the movie was about people fleeing a bomb and then you actually acted out the movie by fleeing a bomb.
[1:07:35] I literally did. And I'm like standing, after I wash my hands and everything, I'm just standing there and I'm like, oh, do I have to go back? so I go back and I'm like look what if I'm being rude and I have to like what if everyone else likes the movie and I'm just
[1:07:54] Being rude and you've never walked out of a movie before I don't think so I really wanted to oh yeah yeah but you've never actually have I
[1:08:02] Think you're right
[1:08:04] You're normally fairly patient no I'm not no I'm not no no no in terms of like you will you will stick it out I
[1:08:10] Will stick it out because again the thing is like If everyone else likes it, I don't want to be the rude one who just leaves.
[1:08:15] Spoils it for everyone.
[1:08:16] Yeah. So I was just like, I was really thinking that I'm like, nah, this is really bad. So I walk and I'm like,
[1:08:23] Can I leave?
[1:08:24] And you're like, yeah.
[1:08:25] Yeah.
[1:08:26] I'm like, okay. So out I go.
[1:08:28] And also, I mean, I was still at the point where I thought the movie was redeemable.
[1:08:31] I didn't.
[1:08:33] So tell me, when did you first start to feel alarmed?
[1:08:37] Beginning.
[1:08:37] No, no, no. What did you talk about?
[1:08:39] No, literally beginning. Like what? First scene. It was like right...
[1:08:43] The kids. There's a girl trying to plan a date in the hallway.
[1:08:47] That is not the first scene.
[1:08:49] What was the first scene? Oh, no, the first scene was the South Americans or whatever with the bond, right?
[1:08:54] Because it was like... Nothing made sense. How did you even get that? And like, look, I don't mean, obviously I was like, okay, you know what? Maybe this will get explained. I just had a gut feeling none of it was going to get explained. Maybe it did sometime after I left. I don't know. I just didn't think it was going to happen. And then after when she was trying to plan a date, I thought it was too cliched.
[1:09:15] Like the video game, the shallow girl, the TV addict, and then the fitness mom with her greens. and maybe that was supposed to be a joke but this was not a comedy movie it's a post-apocalyptic movie with like nuclear weapons and war and it's not supposed to be funny and it's not supposed to be a bunch of cliches now I could have seen it I could have seen it being an interesting story arc if they gave all the cliched characters their own story arc or character arc
[1:09:45] With like the
[1:09:46] Bomb and they took all these kind of annoying stereotypes and turned them into like someone with depth when they all had to go into the shelters or whatever, the homestead, right? That could have been interesting. Personally, I didn't see it happening. Neither did we. I also didn't think any of the actors were any good. You
[1:10:03] Really hated the
[1:10:04] Acting of this. Hated the acting of this.
[1:10:06] Oh, did you know what it was that you hated this?
[1:10:08] They genuinely did not. Nothing felt real. I think a big thing, a big problem for me is the... Where's my brain? A big problem for me is when they do music, too much music, takes away from the acting.
[1:10:23] It's like... You're subbing the music for the feeling.
[1:10:26] Yeah. And there's no feeling... When we're sitting here, there's no dramatic cinema movie, da, da, da. No, there isn't. We're just here yapping. Like the gopher churning,
[1:10:35] Da, da, da.
[1:10:36] It's like in a lot of horror movies, they'll kill it all, or they'll kill all the suspense by putting in music. And it's just not creepy. You know what conveys a lot more than music, in my opinion, is silence. Because I think silence, it relies upon the atmosphere and the characters to make the emotion not just sad piano or happy violin or whatever right right so that was my big problem and then after that i uh was like felt like a lot of cliches just like here's a bunch of far-right dudes who are chads and super manly mans
[1:11:09] No and then and the problem with you is that that's you i mean other than the far-right stuff like that's your lived experience no with jared and james and i it's just it's the manly soldier
[1:11:20] Of 14 no it's just they all felt like I felt like I was watching some debate on Twitter and like it's one of those talk shows where they're all kind of annoying and like all the people who are like yeah i'm a chad but not like andrew tay who can be kind of funny but also not great at the same time but like but like the people who are trying to be cheap copies of guys like him or whatever or who are all like i don't know it's just it's a type of order
[1:11:46] My son to shoot a guy and never talk about it with him again
[1:11:49] No but it's just oh is that another thing did it
[1:11:52] Feel like you never see like how a leftist makes a a meme of a gun or an image of a gun and they don't completely don't understand how guns work and like the entire bullet is coming out of the chamber it's like it's like that it's like these they're caricatures of people they really don't.
[1:12:05] Understand this felt this felt like they were all caricatures of just a bunch of those like republican dudes on twitter there
[1:12:14] Was another thread episodes with threads that were raised and not followed and maybe it shows up in the series i was kind of surprised that it basically was a preview for a series hey
[1:12:22] Guys it's really important that no one pulls out their phone in a theater as we're going to be told 20 times halfway through the previews but please pull out your phone and scan the qr code i didn't actually see that i was reading about online but so
[1:12:33] There's this guy named christian now if there's a movie about christians and there's a guy named christian i'm going to expect layers of whatever right analogies and metaphors so this is he's kind of a preppy looking dude
[1:12:46] Oh the creepy guy
[1:12:48] Yeah the creepy guy right you were still i think this is you were just despawning i think at this point disintegrating
[1:12:54] I was there when he got let this the government agent in, which was really dumb.
[1:12:59] Oh, you're right.
[1:13:01] Did you guys not talk about this?
[1:13:04] There's so much to cover, but yeah, we can talk about this.
[1:13:07] You know what? Here, I'm going to cover it all. Trash. Don't watch it. Trash. Alright, we're done.
[1:13:15] Yeah, because we didn't even know if he was a government agent. He was just some guy coming in to threaten like crazy, right? No paperwork, no data. He's just some guy coming in and threatening them, right?
[1:13:23] Why is this assistant kid letting him into the house, letting him into the property?
[1:13:27] Like, what? Don't know, because he claims to be authority, right? And that was an interesting question. What is authority? Who pays my
[1:13:32] Check is the authority for them? Like, in any real world.
[1:13:35] In this kind of situation, the authority is the people who have the guns.
[1:13:38] Well, that's generally true in most situations. But hang on. So the guy who's Christian, the preppy looking creepy dude, right? so i thought this was going to be a whole judas story time although why you call the judas christian is not right because he comes in and he's like he's like weirdly fondling the ammo in the back of the
[1:13:55] I honestly wasn't looking for i think it was on my phone but
[1:13:57] Yes and you were saying when can i leave yeah
[1:14:01] I was just like
[1:14:02] Venting no so he was he was in there and he was like he was like half like caressing the weaponry you know the the bullet out of an odd concern it's like, hmm, what is all this? Right, right. And then the soldier guy's like, you got a problem? Or is there anything wrong? Or he's like, no, no, I'm just oily guy. I'm just slippery dude, right? This creepy guy is like fondling all the ammo, and then he never shows up again in the rest of the movie. I don't understand what this was all about.
[1:14:30] No, Dad, that's for the series.
[1:14:32] Oh, you're right.
[1:14:33] Oh!
[1:14:34] There was so much of it. It was just a plastic product.
[1:14:38] They just wanted a series.
[1:14:39] Very exciting. All right, now, is there anything else that anyone wants
[1:14:44] To mention that i'm pretty sure i've heard you guys try to end the show like three or four times it
[1:14:48] Often happens it happens in my own mind my life seems to only plan to be
[1:14:51] Three minutes everything and then oh and then there's the thing okay yeah
[1:14:55] It's like one of my stories except this will in fact end so so there was a so the whole you know worship woman thing was sort of previewed with the hug in the trail with the guy and we did talk we just mentioned this earlier but where the the military guy who ordered his son to take the shot never talks to his very very green son yeah about having just killed a man yep i mean he says it changes a man yeah i'm not gonna i'm not gonna talk to him like
[1:15:23] I changed hollywood trope that men are men are incompetent.
[1:15:26] Emotional yeah sorry yeah yeah and then but then he's like uh he goes to the girl magical heart transplant girl he said i can't talk to my parents can i talk to you and then it's like Like, you know, I'll pray for you. And then just through her girly giggles and smiles, he just sort of feels a little better. I can't talk to my parents. I can only come to the really attractive girl in the middle of the night and cry.
[1:15:48] Who I've met once.
[1:15:50] Oh, come on, man. I mean, like, that's a move.
[1:15:53] I mean, come on. Of course.
[1:15:54] And, of course, in the highly Christian community, the two young people being out all night. The whole school girl is like, go on into my bedroom at night. Yes, come. In her room.
[1:16:03] Oh, no. No, come sit on my bed in the middle of the night, you hunkasaurus of weepiness. So the fact that they're out all night.
[1:16:12] Nobody has any problem with it at all.
[1:16:15] Anyway. Well, the dad has a problem with it a little bit later.
[1:16:18] But no, the thing is, no one's checking up. There's no chaperone. Like, how does she disappear?
[1:16:23] Yeah. So the man has a problem because he's like, I don't know if the soldier of fortune guy is going to work out in the community. I don't even know what that means. He hired the guy to protect him. The guy's doing a great job of protecting him. It turns out they do need protecting. But he's like, I don't know if we're going to need this protection that I hired and that It's pretty effective and that we totally need. I don't know. So I didn't know what that made sense. I didn't know if that made any sense at all. Like what sense that made. The movie is hard to cover because there's so many things that are just, you know, set up without payoff.
[1:16:51] There's nothing good about it. Like that's the way we cover it.
[1:16:54] No, there is something good about it, which is this show, which if you go a little longer, it's almost the length of the movie.
[1:16:58] If there's something good about it, it's that it ended.
[1:17:00] No, I'm legitimately, I'm like.
[1:17:02] It was the movie or this show?
[1:17:04] Yeah.
[1:17:05] It was so cathartic to tear this thing apart. And look, there's a lot of cultural stuff in here that needed to be corrected.
[1:17:11] These are not the first people that have made this mistake. Like if you want to make a non-leftist movie.
[1:17:18] Not even right wing, if you want to make
[1:17:20] A non-leftist movie, here's what you need to do. If you want to be authentic with this, anytime you're afraid, if I do this, I'm going to be called this word, ignore that. If you're afraid of being called the word.
[1:17:32] Ignore it.
[1:17:33] Ignore that impulse and create the movie you want to create.
[1:17:36] Yeah.
[1:17:37] That would be art. Just show women having an equivalent respect for men that men have for women. That's revolutionary. Like that is so, that to me would be traditional. At least ask for mutual respect. Now in traditional Christianity, the man is the head of the household, so he's supposed to get more respect. But just make it equal. And that's just going to be, oh, have the women be wrong. What were the women wrong about? Was any woman wrong about anything in this movie? That to me is the wildest thing.
[1:18:02] Well, but if she was, she was corrected or helped by another woman. Okay.
[1:18:06] What's an example?
[1:18:07] Like the mom, like she's trying to call like, okay, so there's these super ultra mega prepper people who got infinite resources, ostensibly, but their daughter who's in another state. Now she did have a SEAL escort, but her daughter who's in another state didn't have a satellite phone. Right. But super wise, you know, military army woman knows how to, you know, get off. Wait, the satellite phone. She's got a satellite phone. And we, oh, look, we can get it.
[1:18:33] Oh, thank you so much. We got the, you know. So super perfect, guys.
[1:18:37] Wonderful woman moment.
[1:18:38] And then the daughters were never. Yeah, but she wasn't wrong. She just needed help. In what was the woman wrong and was corrected by a male? This does not exist in art anymore. Except in my novel, the present. Freedomain.com slash books. No, in what is a woman wrong who is corrected by a male?
[1:18:59] In that movie.
[1:19:00] In what is a woman wrong where she's even corrected by a woman? Not wrong like I need some help contacting my daughter. That's just a technical thing, right? In what has a woman made a significant mistake and is corrected by anyone? Can women be corrected or be wrong?
[1:19:15] I picked the wrong nail polish color and was corrected by another woman.
[1:19:20] Or a gay man. It's hard to say.
[1:19:24] It's hard to tell nowadays.
[1:19:27] No, that's too revolutionary for words. Because, you know, this trope in the commercials, the women are always wise and smart and the men are always idiots, right? Like, this appeal to female vanity is completely pathological.
[1:19:37] And it makes women unbearable in relationships because they can't conceive of being incorrect about anything, which means you really can't have much impact on them.
[1:19:46] Right.
[1:19:48] It's just a one-way street of a gynocentric enslavement to absolute perfection and the God-called woman that you have to worship and contradict. I think it makes women progress. Because as this appeal to female vanity has increased over the last 50 or 60 years, women have got progressively more and more and more unhappy. Because vanity and megalomania and narcissistic perfection is not a state of happiness. It's not a state of able to be loved. It's a state of offering commands and getting enraged at anyone who disagrees with you, which is kind of where culture is. And it just makes a man who is endlessly praised and deferred to goes crazy. It's actually sabotage and an assault upon femininity to make them always perfect and always right and can't be contradicted. It is growing a truly demonic seed of vanity and isolation, right? Because we correct each other all the time, right? I mean, that's part of being in relationships, right? And if you're immune to that, you can't be in a relationship and you can't be happy. You can't be loved. And taking away relationships from women in particular by appealing to their vanity and the sense of being perfect takes away from women what they generally treasure the most, which is connection and relationships. Take relationships away from men. We still have technology.
[1:20:59] We have things.
[1:21:00] We have TVs. I still have a smart market. But no, I mean, it's bad to take it away from men, but it's, I think, slightly worse, even more so to take it away from women because women live to connect and to be in relationships and to be in love. And that's really, really important for men and for women, a little bit more important for women. Taking that away through vanity is just absolutely sabotaging women's happiness. And we can see this in the data. Women are more and more unhappy, have more and more mental illnesses, more and more antidepressant addiction and so on. And, right, I mean, being in a relationship is the best way for women to be happy. And provoking their vanity makes them impossible to relate to.
[1:21:40] All right.
[1:21:41] I think we're done.
[1:21:42] Fifth time.
[1:21:43] Fifth time.
[1:21:44] Come on. Let's be kind. I think it's at least eight. Oh. No, no, no. Don't tease us now. Don't tease us now. All right.
[1:21:52] Anything else? Last. Go in once. Go in twice. Not a word. Don't give them your money. Yeah. Don't give these people your money. Yeah. Trust us. Don't go see it.
[1:21:59] And I'm waiting for some kind of response apology from the studio, which won't happen, but yeah.
[1:22:06] You're the skeleton meme at that point.
[1:22:07] Yeah. Yeah.
[1:22:08] It means that nobody. they've lost credit it means that because you think of the number of people who have to vet sign off on a movie yeah i mean this movie probably tens of millions of dollars you
[1:22:17] Know how much that hurts like this went through like a hundred people and not or at least a hundred people and not to mention all the actors and not a single one was like guys this
[1:22:27] Sucks and the reason this is to your point jared being called a name so if they put a scene in if they put a scene in where a man was wrong and corrected by a woman nobody has a problem if they put in a scene in where a woman is wrong and corrected by a man, that's so misogynistic. Are you saying that women need men in order to, like, so they're still just running away from the misogyny label, which means it's not real art. Real art has to be willing to risk offense. It has to be willing to shock people and surprise people.
[1:22:54] And understand not sacrificing yourself. You could have been a lot edgier than this, you know?
[1:22:59] We're going to get to that eighth time.
[1:23:04] You know what? If we keep this going, we can make this show that lasts an entire year.
[1:23:09] You know what? I'm going to do that.
[1:23:11] 2025. Free Domain forever. Wait.
[1:23:12] Izzy's getting closer to the phone. I'm getting closer to the phone. What's happening? FreeDomain.com slash donate. Like, share, and subscribe.
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