Transcript: Jordan Peterson vs Atheists!

Wednesday Night Live 28 May 2025

Chapters

0:24 - Welcome to Wednesday Night Live
6:33 - The Florida Man Chronicles
36:52 - The Makeup Dilemma
45:47 - Chasing and Dating Dynamics
1:01:25 - The Challenges of Planning
1:12:21 - Overcoming Personal Limitations
1:25:24 - The Value of Persistence

Long Summary

The livestream dives into a series of eclectic and thought-provoking topics, starting off with humorous anecdotes and news snippets before transitioning into deeper discussions about societal issues, personal stories, and philosophical musings.

The opening segment features a bizarre news story involving a woman suffering from a seven-year sinus infection after a bizarre incident involving her ex-boyfriend and E. coli. This leads into a broader critique of societal norms and behaviors, especially concerning crime rates and governance. The host argues that crime persists primarily due to state inaction, suggesting that governments inadvertently encourage criminality. He highlights a story about Britain's first private police force, which boasts an impressive conviction rate, to argue for a radical reevaluation of policing and public safety measures.

The host touches on several topics affecting youth literature, discussing how teens are allegedly unable to read in third-person omniscient, reflecting a broader decline in cultural literacy. This leads to a commentary on the diminishing standards of education and the repercussions it has for society, especially in how we engage with literature and critical thought.

The discussion quickly shifts to political commentary, with a focus on the concept of the "autopen," which raises concerns about governmental operations and accountability. This becomes a springboard for a deeper examination of the lengths to which political figures may go to obscure their decision-making processes, as he amusingly recounts a tangential story about a friend who once used an autopen for holiday card signatures, emphasizing the absurdity of political power being represented by a mere signature machine.

A particularly entertaining segment covers the infamous "Florida Man" memes, focusing on a bizarre incident where a Florida man, bitten by an alligator, engages in a rampage. This news item sparks discussion on societal perceptions of individual bizarre behavior and the nature of sensational news reporting.

As the show progresses, the host shifts to more personal observations about modern social interactions. He humorously reflects on the phenomenon of women creating content about their lives while engaged in makeup, questioning societal norms and behaviors observed in these scenarios. This amusing contemplation leads into poignant discussions about the differences in how men and women communicate their experiences and engage in friendships.

A phone-in segment gives listeners an opportunity to voice their thoughts, further driving engagement. A particularly touching call addresses the struggles of feeling unworthy in romantic pursuits, which elicits empathetic responses from the host who encourages self-confidence and exploration of potential.

Throughout the show, the host integrates humor with serious commentary on broader social dynamics, from societal expectations to personal experiences with commitment and love. He discusses the modern dilemmas facing today's youth, particularly in relation to relationships, self-esteem, and the advocacy for mental health awareness, while satirizing the self-labeling tendencies among contemporary youths.

The host challenges listeners to reject societal pressures and expectations, espousing a philosophy of self-exploration and resilience—emphasizing that assumptions about personal limitations can be a form of vanity. This leads to a lively debate on the nature of pursuit in romantic relationships—the shifting dynamics of chasing versus being chased and the evolving understanding of attraction in modern society.

The show's closing segment draws on all the discussions, wrapping them in a humorous yet reflective tone, and invites the audience to engage with more insightful content on the show’s website. The host encourages participants to call in again and shares resources to help foster continued philosophical discussions in the future, leaving listeners with a blend of entertainment, insight, and motivation to challenge societal norms.

Transcript

[0:01] Hello hello good evening welcome to your wednesday night live it is the 28th of may 2025, and uh if you want to get your call in shows booked freedom main.com slash call um i'm booked up for the next little while but happy to take some calls uh freedom main.com slash call you public or private, depending on your preferences.

[0:24] Welcome to Wednesday Night Live

[0:25] Private is blunt, and public is diplomatic for obvious reasons. So you can check that out at freedomain.com slash call and freedomain.com slash donate, of course, to help out the show, to help out the show. So I thank you so much for joining us here on this glorious evening. Let us start with some news items. Of course, throw in your questions and your comments. Happy to hear them. Happy to hear them. The elevated story from Colin Rugg on X. A woman claims she's been suffering from a seven-year itch. No, well, maybe an itch too. A seven-year sinus infection after her ex-boyfriend faced his cheeks at her and farted in her face while she was recovering from surgery. Christina Connell said doctors found E. coli in her sinuses.

[1:20] Ouchies. And, um, yeah, don't do that. Don't do that. Don't you, Evans? They're not fun. They're not fun, and not, are they funny over the age of about eight?

[1:36] Britain's first private police force has caught 400 criminals with 100% conviction rate after taking on cases regular officers are too busy to look at right so you know that the only reason that crime exists is the state allows it to exist right i'm i'm sure this is not news to anyone but the only reason that crime exists is because the state allows it to exist and not taking it's a very small number of people who commit the vast majority of crime and they are out in the world because the government, allows them to be out in the world and in fact encourages criminality because when there is more criminality then people are frightened and nervous and, constantly running to the government for their salvation when the government is in fact largely responsible for them being preyed upon in the first place, alright, what else? Cairo Smith reports on Acts a literary agent told me teens can't read third person omniscient anymore, Now, you know, third person, omniscient.

[2:42] Yeah, car theft is legal. Hurtie Words Online is illegal in the UK. Yeah, just appalling. I mean, it really is. REO Pagetica was, was it John Milton? One of the great defences of free speech in the 17th century, I think it was. England has, yeah, it's completely fallen. but it's becoming third world in terms of its economy and in terms of its legality. Yeah, it's all blindingly predictable and stuff, which I talked about 15 years ago. So people choose not to listen to philosophers and, well, we see how this goes down. But yeah, teens can't read the third-person omniscient. So third-person omniscient, of course, is, you know, he said, she said, you can dip into the minds of any of your characters and you know everything. You know the future, you know the past, you know their secret thoughts you know what they dreamed last night you're an omniscient god and a literary agent told me teens can't read those persons omniscient anymore.

[3:43] Yeah it's crazy, it's crazy well it's the the consistent lowering of standards that's inevitable based upon the stuff we've talked about in the show before um i shouldn't laugh this is wild i i really do find this wild and it takes a certain amount to shock me in the realm of politics but i do find a certain amount of this wild so um have you been following the auto pen scandal at all, Have you been following the Autopend scandal at all? Wild. From Donald Trump Jr., the watchdog finds no evidence Biden knew of crucial climate executive orders, demands answers on who signed the Autopend. Sorry. That is wild. This is your government.

[4:47] This is your government. It's a pen. This is your government. A pen and a robot arm. I actually knew a guy many years ago who worked in a government office and had access to the auto pen. It was actually kind of funny. He used to send Christmas cards with the auto pen signature. Of course, it was all goofy, and everybody knew it wasn't real. But that's your government.

[5:14] That's your that's your government i mean can you imagine i mean how many thousands of pardons did biden sign and how many of them had he actually reviewed and knew what he was signing, i mean the auto pen power is really something that uh this is what it's come down to is, who has control of the bic that's your government okay i mean imagine imagine how, how how much might have been for sale i mean i don't know nothing's been proven or anything like that but you know presidential pardons are pretty powerful and if you have control of the auto pen, well that's that's your your pen that's your government is is ink in a robot arm, oh this is why i'm not in politics anymore because this is where things are, Oh my gosh. I love this. Somebody wrote, oh my god, I just found out that like Albert Einstein was a real person. All this time I thought he was like a theoretical physicist.

[6:20] Oh my. Oh my.

[6:33] The Florida Man Chronicles

[6:34] I find the Florida man, you know, the Florida man meme is kind of funny, right? And I'm sure that you know the reasons for it, right? I'm sure you know the reasons for it. So the reason for the Florida man meme is not because Florida is crazier than any other state. It's just that florida used to publish it's um uh it's uh police matters used to get published and so when they were short on stories they just open up the police and find some crazy story so i mean maybe it's crazier than other states but it's not innately that way but uh the florida man stuff is pretty funny so this is uh from yesterday early on memorial day a florida man was bitten by an alligator as he swam across a lake. Bleeding from a bite to his right arm but undeterred, he climbed out, grabbed a pair of garden shears, and walked into a gated neighborhood, alarming residents according to local authorities. Within minutes, the man, Timothy Schultz, 42, of Mulberry, Florida, was dead, shot by sheriff's deputies after, they say. He charged at them with the shears, failed to be subdued by a stun gun, and tried to grab either a shotgun or a rifle from their cruiser.

[7:45] The fact that he was bitten by an alligator significantly and continued on his rampage was shocking the Pope County Sheriff Grady Judd said at a news conference on Monday this is just crazy stuff you know it's got to be true you can't make it up in fact, Mr. Schultz had started acting strangely at least two hours before the fatal encounter in Lakeland Florida well Florida is the Lakeland according to the Sheriff's Office which pieced together the events leading up to his death using 911 calls and witness statements from residents of the neighborhood who tried to help Mr. Schultz in his final moments. Sheriff Judd also said that Mr. Schultz had a lengthy criminal record which he described as meth arrest, meth arrest, meth arrest, meth arrest, meth arrest. Oh my gosh, that is wild. It's quite the ad for the power of methamphetamines. that is quite um, Yeah, that is quite a thing. All right, so let's see here. What else do I have for you? Too chitty-chatty about.

[8:55] Okay, ladies, please help a brother understand something. Help a relatively ancient, egg-headed intellectual help me understand something.

[9:06] Why why is it to reproduce um a stitch and bitch is it to reproduce a hen party is it to reproduce some sort of sleepover why is it please tell me why is it that it seems like half the videos, that women make are them talking about something kind of important, while putting on makeup? Why is that? I mean, I try not to do too many shows while brushing my teeth or my armpits. Why is it that women are just mad for chatting about some horrible thing their boyfriend did or all the guys who give them the ick or some, I've even seen some political stuff. Why is it that women either have to be in their car or putting on their makeup? I don't, is it so hard to find a white wall and just do a selfie thing? But what is with the makeup thing? Is it to reproduce what happens in the vast canyon-like mysteries of the female bathrooms? I don't know. Why do women need to go to the bathroom together? Are they all synchronized in their drinks, like on their periods? It's a way of saying, it's not a big deal. I'm so not affected by it. Oh, is that right? Like, it's so not a big deal. I'll just put on my makeup.

[10:30] What's the equivalent for man?

[10:34] Um, what would, what would the equivalent for men be? It's not that big a deal. I'm what? Yeah, maybe they're trying to get a makeup sponsorship. That's wild. I mean, cause putting on makeup seems to be kind of an intimate act, I suppose. Right. I don't know. Again, I don't know what the equivalent for men would be. Maybe, um, checking your testicles for strange lumps. Well, I just wanted to let you know that, uh, I'm really upset about this auto pen political. Hang on. Oh, left not okay. Hang on. Oh, right. No, no, no, that's good. Sorry. That's just manliness. Uh i mean it's pretty wild uh is it is it men getting um colonoscopies what is it i don't know i don't know i think men talking about an intense subject while clicking, heads in a first person shooter would be a yeah i was actually going to do a show tonight where i tried the new doom game but yeah i don't know what is it for men checking your checking your moles to see if they've turned evil on you oh crazy uh my theory it started as makeup tutorials having unrelated subjects discussed to kill time while keeping it in real time then became fashionable as a form of performance yeah this is going to take a significant amount of time so i have time to chat about something else too oh you mean the makeup is gonna yeah i don't know i don't know what the equivalent would be i also find it interesting oh this is pretty funny okay Okay, this is from, is it from Jeopardy?

[12:03] This term for a long-handled gardening tool can also mean an immoral pleasure seeker. I got this wrong. This term for a long-handled gardening tool can also mean an immoral pleasure seeker. And what is the answer? What is the answer?

[12:23] In around 2016, says Marie. Okay, thank you, Marie. I appreciate that. In around 2016, makeup tutorials were really popular, showing each product used, sponsorship, et cetera. It evolved into making videos about anything while applying makeup. True crime while doing makeup was very popular. All right, good to know. I think it's just continued from there. I agree with Frida Love to get sponsorships, yeah. The worst videos are girls pretending to want to educate us on hiking, flowers, or anything like that, but their nips are hard as rocks. It sounds like you've got a subscription or two. Men go to the gym. Nah, but men don't record, you know, they don't record themselves chatting while working out, usually. They're just so damn smart and above it all, they can't be bothered to give their full attention to it, in my opinion. Oh, the makeup stuff, right? Yeah. A rake. A rake. This term for a long-handled gardening tool can also mean an immoral pleasure seeker. I immediately went to hoe. A hoe. H-O-E. Last time I used a hoe, I got me a blister. Oh dear. Yes, of course it is rake. It is rake.

[13:45] Yes, I would have thought hoe, but apparently not. Apparently not. Uh darth powell writes of vlad the inflator at vlad the inflator this is why working in americans can't get ahead over 130 million americans or roughly 39 percent of the u.s population receive some form of government assistance when holding major programs well so when including major programs like social security medicare medicaid snap and ssi yeah very true very true, Let me ask you this. I went to a mall for the first time in a while with my daughter the other day. She had some shopping to do. So we spent the day at the mall. And hit me with a why if you've been to the mall in the last month. So for me, yes, but not really before that. I mean, I don't really shop much. Fortunately, my wife knows what I need and gets me what I need for the most part. Have you been to a mall in the last month? I am agog with curiosity.

[14:59] Hard to do that with no benches. Not sure I quite follow that. No, yes, no, no. No, I only shop online now. Been to one, yes. Okay. Because they went to a mall, and other than it being almost exclusively immigrants, I guess they're finding it exciting that there's such a thing as a mall. But I don't even know where a nearby mall is. Not in the past few years. I went to the mall with my daughter two months ago. So close. It's not a price. I think it's been years. No malls are for women. Yeah, it's kind of true. No, only in the past year. Yeah, I mean, I don't really buy stuff in person that much anymore.

[15:44] I have this it's purely irrational i don't have any particular reason for it other than i worked retail for a couple of years i have this unerring inability to not see things that i need to buy.

[15:59] You know when i'm playing unreal tournament i can snipe someone you know 19 football fields away and see them no problem as they pass by a thumb indent in a wall. But I absolutely am positive, like my wife will occasionally, because her judgment is occasionally impaired, will send me to go and buy something. Now, when a man wants to buy something, he says something like, get me some tomato sauce, right? Get me some tomato sauce, right? I need some tomato sauce. That's not what women do and not at all what wives do what wives do is they tell you uh the the brand the style of can uh the label the logo the best before date that it needs to be uh inside a buy the flavorings perhaps the ingredients and usually there's a qr code of some kind although not my wife because she's got the tech literacy of your average tree frog but uh you you cannot go and get like you can't go for instance and get some tissue tissue paper or toilet paper you just can't because there's a particular kind a particular brand from a particular source source from a particular tree in the amazon that has a particular relationship to tender skin that you have to.

[17:19] Go and get. And so for me, for instance, if I need, I take a couple of supplements, right? So if I need the supplement, you go to the, go to the store, right? And I will scan, right? Because let's say you need vitamin D, right? So, you know, it goes alphabetically, right? And vitamin A, vitamin A is actually just, it is maple syrup, vitamin A. So I am absolutely, it's it's guaranteed every time and this is a pet peeve of mine and has been for many years it's absolutely guaranteed i will skip past it three times like i will say it's got to be between here and here right this is the this is the area right it's got to be between here and here it's got on the shelf it's got to be logically so i'll go and i'll check and i'll check three times with increasing irritation i'm not a particularly irritable person but there's a few things that just get my gourd going and i would go and look for it and i will not find it i will not find it Like, whatever my wife asks me to get, they will have everything on either side, maybe a gap in the middle, but it will not be there. And then I have to call her like a bleating, pathetic, lost little lamb and say, honey, it's not here. And, uh, so what can I get instead? Oh, I don't know. What is there? And then it's like 19 shelves worth of tomato sauce. And it's like, oh, well, make sure it doesn't have any sweetener.

[18:43] Can't just get some jam. have to have you know pectin-free fruit paste of the gods with a side order of ambrosia and maybe some absinthe yeah it's uh crazy so and i know this and i it's bizarre to me because i'll look on the shelf i know it's got to be there i won't find it three times i'll kind of give up and if there's a clerk there she'll say oh it's it's here and it's not in the place it's supposed to be and then so I just get annoyed looking for things at least on you know online purchases I can just go and look for stuff and it's there and buy it whatever right but I just know for an absolute fact that whatever I need I will not find I will get to the right area and the area that makes sense.

[19:31] But it won't be there. It'll be in some pocketed area somewhere else. And I remember this, of course, when I worked in a hardware store for a couple of years when I was in my teens. And learning where everything was just kind of drove me crazy. If somebody says, smart wife looks up online the exact version of what she wants, puts it on one page, prints out the sheet for her husband. Yeah, no, I mean, my wife will take a photo of what she wants. And I'm like, I'm like, it's just a zombie. You know, just this zombie wandering up and down the aisles. Well, most of the jams are in this aisle, but in another portal in the nether, in another dimension, we put the three jams, one of which is the one your wife wants. But it's not in the jam section. It's in the alternate jam section of infinite frustration.

[20:21] Your wife hires little short guys to hide a hidden passageway in between the aisles to take things on and off the shelf through little doors that you can't see unless they're open. I know it. Yeah, it's true. It's true. And everywhere I go, I cannot find things. And now it's gotten to the point, well, you know, you go someplace. Like I had to buy some batteries today and went to a store. I said, oh, where are the batteries? Aisle 6, right? Aisle 6. So go to aisle 6. I know there's not going to be any batteries there. And it's not because the person's incompetent. It's just because that's just the way life is for me. I just can't find things. I might as well be legally blind. But anyway, so I go up and down. There's no batteries, right? And I'm like, ah, I bet you she meant, you know, that stuff at the end, right? The bit at the very end. Yeah, it's in the music section under jams. Pet didn't rock. So yes, and it's true. It was aisle six, but it was at the end of aisle six on that alternate dimension L-shaped thing at the bottom there. That was the deal. It was very sad. It's very sad. It's just the way that it is. Whatever is needed will not be present. Sorry, I could go on like this forever, but it is just crazy. Stores move items around, so you can't just memorize a mental map and ignore everything else around them. They want to encourage walking down more aisles to impulse buy. Is that right? Yeah. Yeah, like I like kombucha from time to time.

[21:43] And I can't find it. Kombucha. Oh, it looks like kombucha. No, it's not kombucha.

[21:51] Sad but true. Sad but true. All right. Yeah, I was just wondering about that because malls seem to be kind of falling apart.

[22:02] So Geiger Capital on X writes, in 1983, almost 80%, almost 80% of 30-year-olds were married and 50% already owned a home. Today it's 45% and 30%. So from 80% struck by almost half in a couple of decades, 80% were married of 30-year-olds. Now it's 45%. 50% already owned a home. Now it's 30%. The collapse of healthy society and the middle class, a direct result of catastrophic policy and deficit spending. our leaders borrowed prosperity from future generations so do you know, do you know why our governments and socialists hate the bourgeoisie the petty, the petty bourgeoisie do you know why the middle class is always in the crosshairs of state power. Do you know why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why do governments and socialists hate the middle class so much as a whole? Because that's what's being destroyed here. In 1983 almost 60 percent of adults lived with a child now it's just a little over 30 percent.

[23:27] In 1983 85 percent of people lived on their own now it's a little over 60 percent.

[23:38] And they are polite and negotiate that's part of it yeah well i know why marx does because he was so dependent upon one. Well, no, Engels was a big factory owner, not a petty bourgeoisie, because they vote to maintain autonomy over their lives. They support small governments and family values, typically Christian, although maybe not so much anymore. I think it's all very good, very good stuff, if you don't mind me saying so. Freedomain.com slash donate to help out the show, just to remind you. Because the middle class is hard to control like the oligarchs, right? So the super rich are very rarely the enemies of statism, the super rich are very rarely enemies of statism first of all they're small and concentrated so they can be pressured and controlled secondly they get wound into political power as part of the price of being wealthy right and this is why Elon Musk is such such an exception to these things is that most wealthy people get bound into the mechanics of power because of their wealth as a whole.

[24:45] So they're not as much of a threat. And they can be bought and threatened because they're small and concentrated. I mean, I don't know what the villain arc exactly was of Bill Gates, although I do know there is one. But yeah, Bill Gates went from, you know, obviously a nerdy guy, a geeky guy, and a skilled businessman for sure, and a good programmer. He went um you know his his dad was i think a patent lawyer which is why he was able to so easily and well negotiate the licensee licensure with ibm that made the fortune founded the fortunes of microsoft but then in the late 90s oh boy how much detail they get into so the late 90s was it in the 90s there was a a browser called netscape navigator netscape navigator and it was, I don't know, 30 bucks or something like that. And a bunch of politicians, because it was the tech boom, right? A bunch of politicians got invested in Netscape Navigator and then Microsoft bundled a browser with Windows and then the value of Netscape Navigator collapsed because you're already paying for Windows, you get a free browser, why would you pay extra for Netscape Navigator? And a whole bunch of politicians lost money and of course, when politicians lose money.

[26:00] The people who cause them to lose money usually don't do very well And so in my belief, I don't know that this is all proven, but my particular belief is that this is why the DOJ opened up antitrust investigations into Microsoft, as they did with IBM earlier. And it just ground the company down into dust for a while. And of course, it was no fun for Bill Gates, right? So i think after that i think he left microsoft and then he got into this whole, it seems like a charity but it's really like a tax thing kind of approach to to helping the world and then he got really invested in in um his friendship with jeffrey epstein even after jeffrey epstein was convicted of some pretty appalling and horrible stuff before he died.

[26:46] And then he got invested in pandemic stuff and he got invested in vaccine technology Fauci and, yeah, and the real Dr. Anthony Fauci is a very interesting book on Fauci. I think he touches on Bill Gates as well. But yeah, the villain arc is just monstrous for Bill Gates as a whole. And a lot of it had to do with the fact, I think, that he got put through this antitrust trial, which is, you know, pretty, I think it's pretty exhausting for people to, when you want to go and create stuff and you're just dragged into, you know, highly volatile and contentious legal matters. And of course, all of his emails were scoured over and so on. And I think that's unnerving for a lot of people. I mean, I've always written my emails like there's the most hostile judge in the universe looking over my shoulder. Not that I have anything in particular contentious to write about, but I'm just sort of aware of that. But this is, of course, back in the day before this stuff was really kind of commonplace.

[27:39] And, yeah, so I think, so controlling the wealthy is usually not too complicated, because you can bribe them with access to politicians, you can threaten them with negative things if they don't do what you want. And so the wealthy don't pose really much of a threat to the powers that be, the super wealthy. Um the poor are divided into two classes the poor that are economically functional but socially and familiarly extremely dysfunctional like they have jobs or whatever but they they have drinking problems drugs problems pornography addictions they they get pregnant out of wedlock they get into fistfights like they just have this they're economically functional but socially just a massive amount of dysfunction and they're not any particular threat of course the other ones, the poor who aren't economically functional, well, they rely upon the government, for their steady diet of government cheese in a van down by the river. So they're not any particular threat at all. But the bourgeoisie, the middle class, that's tricky. That's tricky for power, right? Because they want small government because they're not big and concentrated enough in each set of economic units to be able to get anything useful from the government. Neither do they get a lot of benefits from the government, which is why under COVID, In my view, the government let large companies still do their thing and be open, but small companies were shut down.

[29:06] And yeah, Chris Foley reference, that is a funny skit, man. He was a funny guy. Tragic end, but a funny guy. So yeah, the middle class, the petty bourgeoisie, the petite bourgeoisie have always had, suffered under a really deep and venomous hatred from those interested in expanding government power. It's a brutal, brutal situation and system for that. And they just have a terrible time overall. And this is why the middle class, they're constantly trying to hollow out the middle class. They want to move a few people to the super rich, which is controllable. And then they want to dump a lot of people down to the poor. And of course, you know, this Marxism said that this was going to be bifurcated, right? This is one of many things that Marxism got wrong, as they said, that you're going to end up with a few super rich and lots of poor, and there won't be a middle class, right?

[30:05] And so if your theory doesn't predict it, you'll just change the data, you know, like you're in academia. If your theory doesn't predict it, you'll just change the data. And so if your theory predicts that there won't be any middle class and there is a big middle class that's getting bigger and bigger, then you just use government policies to destroy the middle class and then you say, ah, look at that. No middle class, right? So this was interesting. This made it to the top of r slash conspiracy. During the Black Death, Scotland suffered population decline of 30 to 50%. This was tragic because at the time, Scottish elites didn't have the means to replace that lost population with immigrants. As a result, wages for the average peasant sadly tripled. Tripled. That's true. That's true.

[30:59] I look down and see. This Amica Irfan writes LSAT. That's the law exams, right? LSAT accommodations have genuinely gotten out of control. I talked to someone today who got an entire section taken off of the LSAT for them and 100% extra time. Their only condition is anxiety. Have you noticed that some of the young seem to be quite delicate these days? That's pretty wild.

[31:54] So, look, I mean, obviously, if you're blind, you should, you know, get the Braille test and so on for things like that. But the idea that you have anxiety, anxiety, and therefore an entire section gets taken off the LSAT and you get double the time, I don't follow that. And maybe people wiser and younger than me can explain this to me in the way that I vaguely understood what was happening with regards to the makeup tutorial chats about how unattractive men's ics are. But what is going on?

[32:31] Do people think that when you become a lawyer, somehow the entire sections of your requirements would be taken away and you get 100% extra time? You're going to get a time machine to slow down time and give you slow motion sickness epic style like what do you think is going to happen i have anxiety okay if you have anxiety and can't do the lsat probably shouldn't be a lawyer you know what i mean well you know i want to be a surgeon but i faint at the sight of blood so um i'm gonna need to do my surgery exam without cutting into anyone because i just i can't i can't do the i can't do the blood i i faint at the sight of blood okay well if you faint at the sight of the blood and there there are people who are like that if you faint at the sight of blood i think it's entirely theoretically possible that maybe you shouldn't be a surgeon go be a giant russian fish go be a sturgeon but don't be a don't be a surgeon.

[33:42] You know like dyslexia you know i i have sympathy but you know if if you have a job that involves endless amounts of highly detailed and exacting reading and you have dyslexia maybe you can't solve it or whatever then maybe because you know people with dyslexia can maybe get extra time and tests but you know maybe if it's going to be legal stuff maybe dyslexia plus being a lawyer is not the best combo in the world there's tons of things you can do that don't involve a huge amount of highly detailed and high stakes reading so i don't know man.

[34:15] As somebody wrote in response to this, as a reminder, accommodated test takers have consistently outscored non-accommodated takers for at least a decade. Accommodations that go beyond, e.g. screen readers for blindness, are not leveling the playing field, they are tilting it towards those willing to get diagnosis. And this is from a test. Accommodated slash extra time test takers had higher average LSAT scores in 18 of the 20 test administrations in this report compared to the non-accommodated group.

[34:56] The accommodated slash standard time test takers, i.e. those who did not receive extra time but did receive accommodations such as a computer for the writing sample, food, ability to sit and stand, etc., had higher average LSAT scores than the non-accommodated group in 12 of the 20 test administrations. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. So, yeah, it's, I don't get it. I mean, help me understand. I don't have any hands, so I'm going to need extra time in the piano recital, or I need extra accommodations. I'm colorblind, but I want to apply makeup. I don't, like, if you have a particular limitation, then shouldn't you just kind of work around those limitations? Like, I didn't sit there and say, well, I need to be a hair model. I don't know. I could be a model for an ostrich egg, but not a hair model. It's wild. I, you know, obviously have sympathy for people who have limitations, which we all do, right?

[36:04] But it's like, you don't get to be a comedian if you're not funny. And if you have too much anxiety to take a test a test is much lower stakes than say whether somebody goes to jail or not or gets a death penalty or not or loses a million dollars in a lawsuit or not so i don't quite see how, we get to accommodate these things if you have anxiety i mean maybe find a way to deal with your anxiety try to get to the root of it at all maybe then you can be fine but if let's say that for whatever reason you're just a very anxious person then i'm not sure that being a lawyer is the thing for you i don't know oh.

[36:52] The Makeup Dilemma

[36:53] Yeah, it's very strange. I'm terrified of public speaking, but I want to be a public speaker. It's like, well, then you have to overcome that fear, but I don't know that we need to adjust. I want to be a comedian, but I'm not funny, right? It's like, well, find a way to be funny or don't be a comedian, right? Dom Lucre on X, an account worth following. Hundreds of U.S. judges across the country are getting random pizzas delivered to their front doors from anonymous senders. Numerous deliveries are arriving at judges' residences or their family members perceived as a means of intimidation and psychological warfare. Yes, that is a tough situation because, of course, a lot of people are believing or are of the perspective that, you know, they voted for Donald Trump, they voted for that particular agenda, and that agenda keeps getting blocked by judges. And especially in military matters, I don't, again, I'm no lawyer, But I don't at all understand how judges can override the commander-in-chief regarding military matters. That makes no sense to me at all. And I think under the enemy's alien act, they're trying to get it done as a military matter. So, yeah, it's very strange. Off topic. Sorry, what do you think of media piling on Jordan Peterson?

[38:15] What do I think of the media piling on Jordan Peterson? What do you mean? What am i not aware of i mean i did see some clips and actually i did a review a day or two ago of jordan peterson in one of the clips uh when he was up against what jordan like a christian versus 20 atheists or whatever it was and jordan peterson did um a terrible job a terrible job um and like not even philosophy 101 stuff and you know i know he's not a philosopher He's a psychologist, but he should be doing better than that for sure. So if you are a donor, you can see all of my breakdown of this. He doesn't seem to be the same guy since he was put in a coma for his benzodiazepine addiction. And I just don't think he's been the same guy. And I don't know, did he take the jab? Thank you for the tip. Freedomain.com to help out the show. Did Jordan Peterson take the COVID vaccine? Maybe he's never talked about it. Yeah, use your natural strengths and your interests in your career. I am not gifted, I have my gifts, I believe, but I'm not gifted at math in any particular way. He did take, yeah, so I don't know also, I mean, some of the jab effects, they've crossed the blood-brain barrier, there have been some reports, again, I don't know whether they're right or wrong, I can't really evaluate them, but they have certainly, I've seen a number of reports about personality changes and cognitive changes as a result of the COVID jab.

[39:44] So, I don't know. That's very sad. But no, it's not a piling on. I mean, he did a bad job, a very bad job. I'll give you an example. I'll go into this in more detail. So, one of the atheists was talking about, well, July, right? This is a basic question. So philosophy 101 is you come up with a rule and you see if you can find an exception so that you can further refine the rule. That's physics. That's, you know, biology. That's, you know, the question of the duck-billed platypus is a mammal or not, right?

[40:17] So the question is, well, telling the truth is a value, right? Okay. So telling the truth is good. Telling the truth is moral. Okay. But would you lie to save someone's life? Let's say they were being unjustly persecuted, sort of Jews in Nazi Germany and so on. Would you tell a lie to save a life now the standard answer from anybody with any honesty and integrity is well yes you should tell a lie to save a life because while honesty is a value life is also a value and life is a greater value and so jordan peterson's answer was to say i would never let myself get in that situation that's not answering the theoretical that's making a personal claim that's even more absurd than the theoretical which actually happens quite consistently in history and jordan peterson then said well the people who end up having to lie to save a life are so steeped in sin that that's all they've got left it's you know it's their bloody fault and it's like no that's not that's not the argument and then he rejected the theoretical that's without value it's like but it's even more theoretical to say i would never be in a situation where I had to lie in order to achieve a good, right?

[41:26] So philosophy 101 is, I mean, you create a moral rule, and then you look for an exception to further refine the moral rule and come to a greater understanding of ethics, right? In the same way, like physics, you say, well, everything falls down. It's like, well, a lot of things don't fall down, helium balloons and bubbles and clouds and birds and whatever. So you've got to, you can't just say everything falls down. You have to have a better, and then you say, well, things heavier than air fall down or things without a propulsion upwards fall down and you come to a better understanding of air resistance and gravity and and so on and and energy so yeah it was it was really not good and of course you know Jordan Peterson would not admit to being a Christian neither would he deny being a Christian and that is not.

[42:11] It's not good. I mean, and again, this is the dawn of philosophy. This 2,500 years ago, right? Plato through Socrates, or Socrates through Plato was posing the question, oh, it's really good. It's good to return people's property when you borrowed it. And they asked for it back. Yes. Well, what if your friend is, give me my ax back. I want to go kill my wife. Would you give your ax back? Well, no. It's like, you wouldn't give your ax back if the guy's going to kill the wife. So this is like dawn of philosophy, philosophy 101, create a moral rule, find an exception, right? I was working on this stuff like 20 years ago with regards to lifeboat scenarios and hanging from a flagpole, kicking in a... It's wrong to break him into people's houses. Yes, it's wrong to break people's houses. Well, what if you're hanging from a flagpole outside of an apartment? You've got to kick in the window to dive into... Okay, that's right. You get a better... Yeah, I didn't know benzos were addictive, says Dr. Peterson. I don't believe that that's true, that he didn't know that at all. I just don't think that that's true.

[43:05] Yeah. Do you believe in God? Well, it depends what you mean. What do you mean by the word believe? And it's like, oh, come on, man. That's common parlance, right? Something you hold to be true. Well, that's a tautology. No, that's not a tautology. So, yeah, it was just, it was not, and he was, again, really hostile, really contemptuous and angry, and just, that's not, I mean, this is the guy who sort of built his reputation and his career on being sympathetic to the plight of young men.

[43:39] So... Yeah, I was raised in church and was taught that any lying was never okay. It was always a sin. When I read about Rahab, I don't know what that means, I was very confused. Jordan's responses were maddening, and I enjoyed your analysis. Yeah, so if you're a donor or if you're a subscriber, you can go to the premium section, and I've got 40 minutes, I think, or 35 minutes on an analysis of a couple of minutes of the Jordan Peterson thing. Somebody says he was like this before the coma. Way back when his first got popular, he had this exact same debate with Sam Harris, of all people, spent the full time refusing to say he believes in objective truth. Yeah. I mean, this is, I mean, I don't know if he's on the right. I don't think he's on the right. But this is the general question of people on the right or the Republican Party as a whole. Is it just to sign up so people accept socialism without pushing back? All right. But yeah, it's a bonus show. And I'll probably do another one because I find it very interesting to look at these analyses. And again, this is not to find any particular fault with Jordan Peterson's intelligence. It's just that he's not trained in philosophy. And I wouldn't imagine that he should. And the funny thing is, too, is that he was very more aggressive and contemptuous with these young men in a way that he wasn't with much more corrupt people in the mainstream media that were interviewing him in incredibly bad faith. So anyway.

[45:09] Jubilee ended up changing the title of the show from christian versus atheist to jordan peterson versus atheist well yeah so so this is another thing too to to be fair to dr peterson which of course i aim to be fair to everyone dr peterson might not have known that the title of the show was christian versus 20 atheists um it might have just been do you want to debate with a bunch of atheists and he says yes i love debating with atheists and then they say later christian verses but he didn't go there as a christian so.

[45:47] Chasing and Dating Dynamics

[45:47] And then quibbling with the term believe, I mean, I can understand needing a definition of something like free will and someone or love, but quibbling with the word belief, like, do you believe in God? It depends what you mean by believe. It's like, really doesn't. Like, it's quibbling every syllable out of every syntax just starts to look sophisticated after a while. All right. Sorry if there's more. And he did have some real wins. Yeah, I've learned a good chunk from Jordan Peterson. I find his books unreadable, but that's probably just me.

[46:18] But the whole question of him getting involved with the Daily Wire and all of that, I mean, that's a whole other thing about can you really have your independence in those kinds of situations? I don't know. It's hard to say. I certainly wouldn't ever want to be in that situation. So I don't want people looking over my shoulder saying what I can and can't talk about. Maybe. And I don't know if that's what's happening with him, but maybe. All right. Let me just see if there are any other sort of comments or questions about this. I know that Jordan Peterson is, yeah, Jordan Peterson has had some very interesting comments and issues and so on, but he's not, yeah, the semantic stuff is tough, right? Certainly he has had his moments, for sure. He labors too long on semantics. No, I agree. His books aren't good. Well, and I think he talked about corporal punishment of children, and that's, to me, that's, for me, an unforgivable sin. It's a Hans-Helman Hoppy thing, right? To me, that's an unforgivable sin to talk about, physical punishment of children. Rahab. Rahab was a prostitute in the Bible who lied about two spies being in her house, and she saved their lives. She was rewarded for this by her life being spared, and she was in Jesus' lineage. Oh, thank you. I appreciate that. I vaguely think I've heard of that story before, but I didn't know the name, So I really, really appreciate that.

[47:41] Twelve rules. I like, yeah, we who wrestle with God.

[47:48] That's kind of a dramatic title. Nobody wrestles with God. God doesn't wrestle with anyone. We who wrestle with the concept of God, maybe, but not we who wrestle with God. That's very, it's almost like a WWF kind of thing. Unable to commit to a single viewpoint. So the challenge, of course, this is not just with Dr. Peterson, maybe even not primarily with Dr. Peterson, but the big challenge, of course, is when you have a big enough tent, you may not want to take a stand on anything, right? I mean, you know, peaceful parenting, reason, evidence, free will, love is our response to virtue, IQ, like all of these things. I mean, you have to take a stand. I mean, to me, you have to take a stand. You stand for nothing, you fall for everything. or anything and when you have a big tent it's really tough to take a stand right, And, yeah, I mean, a voluntary free market society and arco-capitalism, these are all things that I'm absolutely committed to.

[48:57] And science, wherever it leads you, and so on, right? All right. Let's make sure I got off here. And I appreciate the Rahab story. Have a look that up, Marie. I appreciate that. All right. Physics geek. This is a brutal story. It's a really brutal story.

[49:24] A story came out back when I was in college about some doctoral candidate who discovered that her PhD advisor was fudging slash manufacturing data to create fictitious results to get more grant money. Being an honest sort, she reported the fraud along with all of the supporting documentation. What happened next should not surprise you. the professor in question was given IIRC. I don't know what that means. A slap on the wrist while the young lady who reported him was not only kicked out of her doctoral program, she was blackballed across academia, preventing her from enrolling in another doctoral program. Don't remember her name or if she was ever able to find another program that valued, say, academic integrity enough to bring her on, but I do remember that this opened my eyes a lot about how things actually operate in academia.

[50:21] It's one of the main reasons why I've openly mocked the, it was peer-reviewed for so many years, because I know just how broken the peer-review process is. Oh, sure, I know some professors who try to use rigor in their reviews, but even the more honest ones say, if I don't see two or more PhDs cited, I just skip the review entirely, as if credentials are more important than the actual science. Goes on to say, I've talked about this story before, hey, remember the scientists who discovered that over 80% of ulcers were caused by a nactereal infection that could be treated with antibiotics. He was mocked, ridiculed, and exauriated. His findings were reproducible and documented, but he could not get published in a peer-reviewed study. If memory serves, he ingested some bacteria to give himself an ulcer, then treated himself with antibiotics to prove his point before his findings became widely disseminated. He writes, there is a deep circle jerk rot infesting peer review, in particular, and academia in general. And I still see people defending both as holy institutions, which must not be questioned. Questions we cannot answer are good, answers we cannot question or not. Yeah. Yeah. If I recall correctly, IIRC. Oh, thank you. I appreciate that.

[51:35] Yeah. Academia is hell these days. It's absolute hell. The increase in childlessness over time is among liberals, not conservatives. Yeah, this is one of the reasons why liberals want mass immigration, is because they don't have kids, and therefore conservatives would end up taking over.

[52:04] All right. I watched his lecture series on his book Maps of Meaning, The Architecture of Belief. I found it very insightful and informative. And I'm not trying to be some sort of uber-challenging joker-zoid, but what did you get out of it? I've not read Maps of Meaning. I know he worked on it for Ever and Ever, Amen. But...

[52:32] What did you get out of maps of meaning what what did you get out of it or what what what was anything practical not that it has to be but i'm just kind of curious what what you got out of it and this is not a challenge like what the hell i'm just genuinely curious i haven't read, maps of meaning um well what did you get out of it uh that you found uh helpful i appreciate that uh chris williamson writes eight red flags when starting a new relationship this is good, one they don't understand how difficult they are to live with two they label any criticism as rude or offensive they repeatedly apologize but don't change their behavior they flirt with others and dismiss your discomfort they frequently tell you you're imagining things ah yes the gaslighters they don't value your love as a substantial gift they are too in pain to want the best for you they deflect criticism by pointing out your imperfections right, right.

[53:36] I'm sure there are more but i thought those were pretty pretty good tips to start with, uh from r too afraid to ask reddit too afraid to ask am i going to die alone, and we're gonna die alone i'm 28 years old and what many women would describe as a loser i still live with my parents and i work a very undesirable job at walmart i used to be ambitious i went to school for six years and got my bachelor's degree in computer science i worked hard on getting good grades and even graduated with a 4.0 gpa i'm proud of myself for that but my graduation was nearly one and a half years ago and i'm now working a shitty 14 a job sorry a $14 an hour job at Walmart with high school kids who earn the same as me.

[54:23] My dreams were kind of crushed when I started applying for entry-level jobs after graduation and couldn't land a single damn interview. I had no internships or work experience to use, so I eventually kind of just gave up. What else was I supposed to do? I haven't applied for anything with my degree in like six or seven months. I just don't think I'm capable of landing a good job with my degree at this point. It feels worthless, and I can't see why any woman around my age would want to date a guy like me that has nothing to offer. A good steady job that pays well is about the only thing i could have brought to the table to attract someone in terms of looks i'm incredibly short of five foot four in height i have bad skin that i do try to control i take care of my hygiene to make sure i smell good and dress well i just can't do anything about my bad looks and short height so i'm not attracting anyone that way my life is just incredibly lonely i have no friends and struggle to socialize well I don't even know what I would talk about with someone I'd be interested in dating. I've never been in a relationship before either. And I'm a virgin. Sometimes I feel like I'm too far gone and nobody would ever want to date me. Realistically, am I going to die alone? Should I come to terms with that so that I can try and find a way to live with being lonely? This is just heartbreaking. heartbreaking boy if you ever if you ever hear me talking about this my friend.

[55:49] Just freedomain.com slash call we'll do a call-in show about it that very very sad very sad and i feel a lot of sympathy for that you know, one of the things that burned me out of the business world and set me on what i think is a much better path for the world as a philosophy podcaster. All right. Permission to swear? I want to check. Position. Permission to swear. Y or N? I'll take the majority vote. Y or N.

[56:32] Yes yes yes yes you stubbed toed sailors of salty tongues all right yeah i think we're in, i mean this is what i just couldn't stand after a while was the absolute unfucking predictability, of any fucking plans you might want to make anything oh uh academia is a good way to go because you see the baby boomers all of the all of the older professors are going to be retiring and everything's going to open up oh dear oh sorry you're a white male into the free market you're off the list can't do it can't do it put your time in can't do it can't do it um.

[57:19] Oh you've got to make sure you graduate with a good degree it doesn't really matter in what It proves that you can plan and think and blah, blah, blah. And then you just, you can't get things right. I remember after I'd accumulated, I talked about this a couple of months ago, I had accumulated a really great resume. I built software that had sold for tens and tens of millions of dollars, built a successful company to like 35 people and, you know, went on sales trips. I presented at major conferences. I ran booths, did marketing and technical sales and managed a very competent and creative team, was a good leader and inspiring. And, you know, it was great. It was great. And you'd think, OK, I got to be set now, like with this level of skill, with this level of competence, with this level of ability, a combination, a very unusual combination of great communication skills and great technical skills.

[58:15] And great sales skills, great marketing skills, like it really had a cluster. And you'd think, gosh, you know, wow, I got to be set now. Like it's got to be like a bidding war, like some downtown loft with a view of the lake. Nope, doesn't matter. Oh, oh, sorry, man, there's a recession. Oh, sorry, we're importing infinity workers to under, oh, sorry, man, sorry, nice try. You can't plan for anything. Oh, you know what? I'll just become a philosophy podcaster and build a business that way. Oh, sorry. A little too controversial, even though the facts can't be denied. We'll just call it scientific racism. And you're deplatformed, right? And, you know, honestly, I love doing what I'm doing now. I love having these jazz club chats. It's really, really great. But you can't plan for fuck all in this economy. You can't plan for fucking anything. Now, maybe if you're in the trades, that's a bit of a different matter. but even with the trades, right? You got crazy licenses and then you got COVID and like, you can't plan for anything. Now, maybe this is just me. Maybe I'm just sort of bouncing all over the place like some coked up pinball, but man, you can't plan for shit.

[59:29] You know, I even remember when I wrote my novel, The God of Atheists, I got this review from a PhD literature reviewer, and he said, this is finally, this is the great Canadian novel, this is the best thing I've ever written. And I was just like, damn, finally, I've cracked through in the art world, and every time the phone rang, my agent would be like, I was sure I was going to get a good book deal and all of that. Nothing. Nothing. She loved the book. the reviewers loved the book said it wasn't just a good book it should be published it's like finally we have the great Canadian novel and I was like nope doesn't matter, doesn't matter can't plan for anything everything's political you're either, corrupt and welcomed or you have integrity and you're damned to the outer rim you can't plan for anything, want your education no it's going to change want to start a business ah the rules are going to change, i mean all the rules favoring immigrant investors anyway it's crazy, you can't plan for shit i mean look at this guy you got a 4.0, that's i can't tell you how tough that is a 4.0.

[1:00:54] Do you think that rejection of your skills was a threat to the potential employers they are looking for more of a yes man than a problem solver no no that's always been the case it can't be the case in every single every different industry that i worked in every different economy that i worked in can't be it can't be that everyone is just oh my god i can't hire anyone competent because that made me look bad that's not the economy couldn't even remotely function if that was the case.

[1:01:25] The Challenges of Planning

[1:01:26] Yeah it's absolutely mad.

[1:01:31] Uh joe says i was doing engineering in the oil and gas industry then when biden got in he shut things down and i haven't used that oil and gas knowledge ever since now i design helicopters, yeah this is another thing right so i was hoping over the course of my university like i i got a job as you know doing gold panning and prospecting which i worked out for about a year and a half after high school and i went to university and then i worked one more summer there, and then i was applying because i wanted to do my summers i wanted to do my summers working because you could make a lot of money and you didn't have any living expenses like you're living in a tent the the company pays for your groceries and and your gas and so you basically just you make a ton of money and you can do your entire university based upon working for a couple of months up north right so this was my skill set this was my experience i was good at what i did uh hardy and and you know the more experience you get i wasn't asking for giant pay raises but the more experience you get the better you think you're going to do right how it generally works in planet reason.

[1:02:39] So what happened between my second and third year oh sorry i'm so sorry i was told this very directly from the companies i applied to two companies that i'd worked with before and they said oh sorry man we're not getting any tax breaks for r&d exploration anymore so that whole program is gone oh sorry the government changed the rules and your entire skill set has gotten fucking nuked.

[1:03:05] Or when I graduated in the early 90s, terrible recession. Couldn't even get a job as a waiter. I've been working since the age of 10, right? Early 90s. I was in my mid-20s. I had 15 years of work experience. I think I only got fired once in my entire career. And that wasn't even, anyway, but yeah, so once. And I ended up cleaning people's houses I ended up weeding people's gardens I ended up taking some old woman around town because they were too busy to take her around town I waxed people's cars that's what I was doing in my mid-twenties because you can't plan for shit, it's crazy crazy easy. Now, fortunately, I got out of the tech field prior to the late 90s tech crash. I went and wrote novels instead, because then it would have just been the same. Oh, sorry, the rules have changed. Oh, sorry. Now I get this with the tariffs and all of that. Ah, sorry, the rules have changed.

[1:04:22] Nothing. I mean, Emma, is it just me? It could just be me. I don't think it is. could just be me.

[1:04:36] Any thoughts on Elon Musk saying that AI is infinitely more dangerous than nuclear weapons? The only AI that I'm worried about is lowering the standards and tests. That's the artificial intelligence where you lower the standards and tests. That's the only thing that matters.

[1:04:57] Disemployment topic could be a whole series. It affects so many people. Yeah.

[1:05:05] Yeah you can't plan for shit it's like this what is it the movie airplane like they keep changing the gates and all of the people are just like oh oh the flight to miami has moved to gate 12 oh i go to gate 12 oh my flight family has moved to gate 35 oh everyone's just like zombying around the airport because the gate keeps changing this life man this life.

[1:05:27] That's life everybody just keeps changing the rules and all planning, oh the value of almost all planning is collapsed now all you can do is be nimble and try and grab whatever opportunities you can in the moment but planning for shit my god my god i mean, all the people who were like oh yeah no i'm gonna go get a stem degree and it's like well Now they're just importing people with crayon degrees from everywhere on the planet, right? It's difficult to plan for the future these days. It's not like it used to be in decades past. Yes, it's very true. Lower the standards in tests. Yeah, you're not aware of this? You're not aware that they just lower the standards in tests for various groups and all of that? Yeah, just lower the standards, yeah. That's the real danger. Because you can have a civilization, which is a meritocracy, or you can have equality of outcome, which is a presage to collapse.

[1:06:38] Yeah it's horrible, what are you supposed to take what are you supposed to plan for how do you know how do you know what and I get that there's some chaos and disruption you know AI is coming in good good if if, if AI in a metaphorical way carpet bombs HR departments I'd be thrilled I'd be thrilled having worked in HR departments in the past They really need to go the way of the dodo.

[1:07:15] Yeah, what, you wanted you to do STEM? Oh, yeah, STEM was supposed to be great. It's gone. It's gone. Well, philosophy has the second highest IQ requirements after physics, and I think the most practical. I mean, philosophy actually does very well in the business world. If you say, you know, when I would say, Yeah, I've got a master's in history, but my thesis was on the history of philosophy. The USA has the highest rate of children living in single mother households, three times the global average. Why do you think that is? Well, we know. We know. Timothy Bates writes, a new study finds that support for progressive policies is strongly motivated by fear of violent dispossession. This fear that another may violently take your resources leads to a preference for appeasing opponents who value your goods, handing over resources Yeah.

[1:08:19] That's very interesting. So if you're frightened that criminals are going to take your stuff, you'll put in a welfare state so that they can take your stuff in a more civilized fashion without you getting killed, at least in the short run. Jd vance okay i gotta tell you man, i love this guy i know he's a politician but i mean it's pretty remarkable what he's done especially given the sort of hillbilly allergy of where he came from assuming that it's true i'm sure it is but uh an amazing guy jd vance wrote uh may 24th a couple of days ago he wrote, there's an extraordinary reproducibility crisis in the sciences particularly in biology where most published papers fail to replicate most universities have massive bureaucracies that inhibit the translation of basic research into commercial adoption the voting patterns of university professors are so one-sided that they look like the election results of north korea bro's got away with words i'll tell you that on top of all of this many universities explicitly engage in racial discrimination, mostly against whites and Asians, that violates the civil rights laws of this country. Our universities could see the policies of the Trump administration as a necessary corrective to these problems, change their policies, and work with the admission to reform. Or they could yell fascism at basic democratic accountability and drift further into irrelevance.

[1:09:45] That's a beautiful thing. That's a beautiful thing. That's a beautiful thing. And yes, just for those of you, I'm sure you know. Grock, biology does face reproducibility challenges. It's stuffed full of fraud and deceit. Biology does face reproducibility challenges, with studies showing replication rates as low as 10% to 40% in areas like cancer research. A 2016 Nature survey found 77% of biologists fail to replicate others' experiments. Higher than in physics or medicine. Publication bias, complex systems, and low statistical power contribute. However, some argue that this is overstated, as low reproducibility is expected in exploratory fields. And 73% of researchers trust most papers. It's unclear if most papers fail, as rates vary. Biology's issues are significant, but not unique. And ongoing reforms aim to improve reliability.

[1:10:48] Amazing. Somebody writes, actually, 50% of masters and 60% of PhDs are going to foreign students. They are the ones publishing these unreproducible works. Americans are widely known as the most ethical and inclusive authors of solid science. Also, why they are passed over by universities greedy for those publications. Right. Yeah, people will often ascribe issues to America as a whole without divvying it up by more individual subsections. All right seems ai will pull the rug from stem jobs in the not so distant future not to mention admin jobs for sure beautiful beautiful um somebody was writing about how ai is writing like investment prospectuses that used to take six people a couple of weeks is doing it in an hour and there's like five or ten percent left that needs to be polished.

[1:11:45] Imagine you're doing great and you own a home in pacific palisades home gone Yeah. Blue roof. Accepted. And then you can't rebuild because you can't get permits, right? So it says, nice to see you. So the only thing I plan for is my old age, how I'm going to be taken care of, keeping fit so I can stay healthy, making sure I have enough dollars to not die starving, and that's about it. Nothing else really matters. I don't want to leave my life in the hands of these Gen Y kids. Yeah. Yeah, I would not recommend that at all.

[1:12:21] Overcoming Personal Limitations

[1:12:21] Somebody says Dave says I'm more of a midwit not a 4.0 IT guy like the subject matter so my relationship with AI is totally different AI has made me three times wealthier than I was five years ago.

[1:12:41] Well, I was thinking about that 5'4 guy. And, I mean, I could say, well, you know, I was balding in my 20s, and therefore I can't get girls or anything like that or get women. And I just never really got that myself. I never really got that because, I mean, be confident when you're alive because none of it matters when you're dead. I mean, I think back, my late 50s now, I think back on things that bothered me in the past and what doesn't really matter. And the same thing is true now, right? Like the only thing that really matters is your deathbed. Everything else is a choice. Oh, the things I was nervous about, the things I was bothered about, things I was upset about. This is why as you get older, The great advantage which makes up for your creaky joints is not giving a shit about stuff that doesn't matter. When you're young, everything matters. Everything's a crisis. Everything's high stakes. And there's nothing wrong with that. It's just a function of youth is the way it is.

[1:13:51] But as you get older, none of that stuff matters at all. Oh, no, the girl said no. Who cares? Who cares? You keep asking until you get the girl of your dreams. Fortunately, I did. But that's only because I kept asking, and I wouldn't let boldness or whatever, you know, I wasn't going to let that stop me. I didn't like it at the time. I don't care now. I didn't like it at the time.

[1:14:15] But you just go talk to girls. The girls say, oh, well, I'm unattractive. It's like, if you are confident, you will be perceived as valuable. I mean, it's a weird kind of voodoo that happens. It's a real thing. It's a real thing. If you perceive yourself as attractive, you will be perceived as attractive. By a lot. Not by everyone, but by a lot of people. I mean, have you ever known this? Have you ever known this? That one guy, usually it's a guy, it could be a girl. But the one, I remember, I even remember his name now, many years later. The one guy who's like short and tubby with, you know, whatever, a short and tubby and can talk to all the girls and they love him. Now, that doesn't mean that I'll date him. Maybe he was like a cuddly toy or teddy bear or whatever it is. But have you ever known? Have you ever known someone like that? The guy who shouldn't be attractive, but is. It could also be a big guy who's overweight or too skinny or something like that. Usually it's the guys who are more overweight than too skinny.

[1:15:23] If you're confident, you're perceived as valued. So perfectly stated, I'm stealing it. Go ahead, steal away. Steal away.

[1:15:32] But I, I mean, I came into the philosophy space as an entrepreneur with a master's degree in history. I felt and believed that I had an enormous amount of value to offer.

[1:15:54] So, I just offered it and believed in myself. And through the belief in myself and through actually offering value. You see, you don't know what value you can offer until you believe you can offer value. Now, maybe you'll hit some sort of, right? If you believe you can't sing, like ahead of time, you just, you believe you can't sing, then you won't ever try to sing. Now, if you try to sing, maybe you'll find you a good singer. Maybe. Maybe. But if you don't even try you'll never know it's the same thing with offering value, don't prejudge how attractive you are to other people believe you're attractive and find your limitations believe in yourself and find your ceiling believe you can do anything and everything and find your limitations that's always been my approach since i was a kid, i'm just going to try and see.

[1:16:47] I acted in the play at Thornton Wilder's Art Town. I acted in that play in high school, and I enjoyed it. So I go to university, and I audition for everything, and I get everything. And then I go to theater school, and I'm like, I don't know that acting is really for me. I like it. I enjoy it. I think it's fun, and I'm glad I did it because it helped me with fiction audio books, and it helps me with fiction. I spent, my God, I did two call-in shows today. This is my day. I woke up. I went to a cafe with my daughter where I worked on my novel and wrote a scoldingly great chapter, like a fantastic chapter. I came home, had a quick lunch with my wife. I did two call-in shows, now the show tonight, and it's been a long day. Hello, Fat Andy. Your username, not my nomenclature.

[1:17:36] But yeah, good posture, you're right. Good posture helps. So many men walk as if they're apologetic about the space they're taking up. Yeah, eye contact, a smile. You know, benevolence is so attractive benevolence is so attractive in the world just smile and be positive i mean i love the world i love life i love most people that i meet i really do i'm thrilled to meet people i i can learn just about anything from anyone and teach hopefully something and i just love meeting people and i was um i was at a social gathering uh oh last night i was at a social gathering last night and it was a bunch of new people i'd never met before big smile how's everyone doing i just love to yeah just don't you understand it's a form of vanity to limit your potential before trying it's a it's absolutely a form of vanity to limit your potential oh oh i know what i'm capable of no you don't no you don't you you are like your conscious mind is like one percent of your brain and body like you got a second brain in your gut right there's actually Okay, it's neurons and everything. You've got a second brain in your gut. How dare you have the satanic vanity to limit your potential before trying? You know, I played piano, I played violin for 10 years, I learned one song of the guitar, and I'm like, and then I learned the bass line for...

[1:19:06] That's from Brimstone and Treacle by Sting. Great, great soundtrack album, in my humble opinion. And not a great movie, but a great soundtrack album. And... Now that i have found you in the cool of your evening smile the shade of your parasol and your love flows through me so it's a great great song i burn for you, so yeah how dare you have the vanity to say that you know what your potential is before you try maybe you are really attractive to women maybe you are really charismatic and positive maybe you Maybe you can be really funny. Maybe you can. You ever try just making a bunch of jokes to see if people laugh? Ever try just being really spontaneous and see if it works out? Maybe you can write. Maybe you can sing. Maybe you can learn guitar. Maybe. Maybe. Why not? Why not? You're going to be dead and dust and none of that fucking matters anyway.

[1:20:07] Maybe you can be wealthy. Maybe you have great economic value to offer. Maybe not. But how dare you go through life curled up like an armadillo hiding your light under a bushel for the sake of what being a more compact set of ashes in the jar on the fucking mantelpiece if anyone cares enough to keep you uh absolutely not, maybe you can be really good at sports, Maybe you can learn how to dance well. Why not? God, give it a try. For heaven's sakes.

[1:20:52] I mean, I certainly have my faults, but vanity or believing that I know my own potential, that's not one of my faults.

[1:21:03] I don't know my own potential. Now, I know my own potential or limitations in some areas. I'm an okay amateur singer. That's about it. Okay. I'm never going to be Freddie Mercury or Pavarotti or any of those guys, right? That's fine. I like it myself and it's fine and, you know, keeps my voice in shape. I'm not a particularly good musician. I did 10 years of violin. I was like, okay. So, I mean, I got some, as far as acting goes, yeah, I mean, I would be a good character the actor but that right i i have strengths and weaknesses i've mapped them all out and i'm not going to go to my grave thinking damn i should have tried this damn i should have tried that, oh if only if only my god get off your ass and go and try some shit for god's sakes, you don't know what you're capable of and it's vanity and a sin against your potential to pre-judge what you're capable of. Maybe the girl would really like you if you like yourself. And why not like yourself? Why not? You've got to live with yourself for the next 60, 70, 80 years, 50, 60 years. Why not get along with a roommate called you? Because you've got to live together either way.

[1:22:27] Ah.

[1:22:34] Ah, thank you. My response to your question about maps of meaning. I found Jordan Peterson before you, Stef. He clarified concepts like what is order and chaos. He clarified the categories of known unknowns and unknown unknowns. His explanation that beliefs are maps of how to understand the world. His lecture clarified why people could be committed to their beliefs because I was willing to toss my beliefs to the wayside if they were false. Okay, but what did he clarify? What did you learn? Right, so saying he clarified this, explained that, yes, but what was the content of this clarification and explanation? I mean, if someone says, oh, Stef has proven secular ethics, well, what is the proof? You have to know the proof. You can't just say that I've done it. That's not magic, or it's not supposed to be magic, right? Ah. Ah.

[1:23:32] Yeah, maybe you can get the girl of your dreams. Maybe you can be an amazing father and husband. Maybe, maybe. Why not? Why not? You don't know. You don't know till you know. And you don't know till you try. And you don't try till you give yourself permission to believe. Belief, try, succeed, fail, know. Map your limitations and your strengths and weaknesses. Somebody says, honestly, charisma is the most attractive thing in a man. To me anyway. Charisma and a forehead that could be a nine head.

[1:24:11] Somebody says i want to save getting working going to invest in some tangible metal by satoshi i got plans and someone bumps me from my position then even temp sites denied looking at being thrown back to freaking welfare just as i crawl out of it off work due to illness six months just back up and working and getting myself ready i'm really sick of trying not to drown oh yeah i mean my my last couple of months have been just hell health wise i just tell you it's just been hell just been absolute hell i mean getting over it but yeah i mean you know shit happens right just get a bad ear infection and then the whole system goes haywire i'm only starting to get my regular voice back um yeah it's been i'm i sympathize and i'm not trying to say well i've had it tough too but But yeah, I mean, life just kneecaps you and curbs you in the side sometimes, right? But it beats being dead. And you know, usually, all but one time you recover, right? All but one time you get better, or at least somewhat better.

[1:25:24] The Value of Persistence

[1:25:24] The UBB, the treat others as they treat you, and the answers in the form of the question have been very useful. I'm good, I'm glad. Let me ask you this. Let me ask you this. Jay wrote, the real Jay Burr wrote, the age of chasing is over. Men no longer chase women who don't like them back. Nowadays, women say no, and men just go, okay, and they walk away. And those men never ever talk to those women again men nowadays just wonder why chase at all chasing implies they're running away from you or resisting your advances what's the point of that now let me ask you this have you have you ever chased a woman.

[1:26:12] Have you i mean maybe the case for a man usually it's man to woman have you ever chased a woman, and if not why not and if so how did it go i sort of have a rule like i would ask a woman out once. If she said she was busy, I would ask her out again. And if she didn't suggest an alternative time, not that this ever happened, of course, but have you ever, um, so if I ask a woman and say, do you want to go out Friday? My thing was saying, I'm going to go see this movie on Friday. Do you want to come? Right? I'm going to go do something. Do you want to come? And, If she said, no, I'm busy, I'd be like, that's fine. It could happen, right? And if she didn't suggest an alternative, I'd ask her out once more. And if she still didn't suggest an alternative, then I wouldn't bother. Right, like I mean, if I say to the woman, do you want to go out Friday or I'm going to this movie or going to do this show or going to go do this thing Friday, do you want to come? And if she'd say no and wouldn't say, but how about Sunday night? Do you want to do, like, then suggest an alternative, right? Then I would ask once more and then done. But some women really do like to be chased.

[1:27:17] Uh let's see here yes i did pursue a woman says andrew and failed miserably yes i chased pre-philosophy pursued a girl yes but nothing came of it i handed my wife through the halls of our high school the rest is history i suppose when i was younger teenager i chased a bit got me nowhere perceived as needy and trying too hard yes but focusing on my own journey attracted more women than chasing them men don't chase anymore because they'll be labeled as a sexual abuser slash harasser i truly do believe feminists created this it's not an excuse for men not to chase but it definitely didn't help men well the whole me too thing was um it was so you understand that confidence is inversely proportional to iq so when you say women don't want to be approached women don't want to be harassed right then lower iq less conscientious men will still go do it because they don't really process that stuff. But it's an attack upon high conscience and higher IQ, all of this stuff, right?

[1:28:22] And yes, pro tip men, girls love a little chase. Yeah. And say, oh, it's playing games. It's not playing games. Okay, so the floor is yours. Why don't you type this in and I'll read it. I'm sure you're right. Why do girls like a little chase? Why do girls love a little chase? What is the plus?

[1:28:53] What is the bonus? What do they like? The little chase? We would have evolved that way, right? Is there a value or a benefit to that as a whole? Because it shows you're more deeply interested. Yeah, I think that's right, simpso. It helps them feel desired, reminds them that they are female, and we love feeling like the damsel in distress. So a woman, of course, we evolved without social media, without we evolved. We evolved so that you'd have to marry someone that nobody else had dated before, right? Because people generally maybe did a little bit of dating, but you'd have to get married blind, right? So if a man really wants a woman, and he pursues the woman, in a positive way, not a stalky way, but if a man really likes and pursues a woman, it shows that he has willpower, he has resolution, he's goal-oriented, he has steadfastness, he has follow-through, which means he's more likely to succeed out there in competing with other men for the scarce resources of history.

[1:29:58] So and it also uh if he really really wants her then that shows that he's more likely to commit or that he's got a higher likelihood of really committing to the woman if he really wants her if he's willing to overcome obstacles yeah he won't give up yeah don't give up so yeah he absolutely is going to um be uh persistent he's going to likely to be more successful he's likely to be able to pair bond because he's really getting what he wants and so all of that somebody says i didn't need to chase my wife we hit it off immediately have been together and have never been apart since 2015 2014 for more than a few days but that's not for everyone yeah i didn't need to chase my wife we uh same thing right it shows tenacity for one he values and likes right, right at the very least it can be fun to chase a woman there's nothing to lose you only gain confidence over time. Yeah. I mean, of course, there are a lot of women, this drives some men kind of batty, right? But there are a lot of women who are like, well, I told him no three times and he just gave up.

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