Transcript: Movie Review: Snow White - With Izzy!

Chapters

0:07 - The Dreaded Snow White
0:14 - Fatal Errors in Film
2:01 - The Original Fairytale
5:09 - AI and CGI Dwarves
6:04 - Casting Controversies
9:06 - Musical Moments
11:49 - The Dwarves' Competence
14:44 - The Flaws of Snow White
17:55 - The Queen's Manipulation
19:40 - The Name's Origin
20:07 - Dwarves and Hobbits
22:51 - Cringe Cinematic Techniques
25:15 - Male Vulnerability
26:48 - The Gruesome Reality
29:25 - The Future of Representation
30:20 - Misalignment in Casting
31:06 - Lost Opportunities in Film
33:19 - Overrated Cultural Phenomena
36:40 - The State of Gaming
37:27 - The Pitfalls of Identity Politics
41:15 - The Struggles of Youth
42:56 - Food and Identity
47:26 - The Protein Debate
48:03 - The Quest for Culinary Skills
50:53 - The Impact of Travel
55:46 - Culinary Aspirations
59:17 - The Quest for Relationships
1:00:46 - The Challenge of Connection
1:10:09 - Subjective Morality Debate
1:10:20 - Disney Fairy Tales Reimagined
1:11:04 - Youth Business Ideas
1:12:19 - Thoughts on The Fountainhead
1:13:18 - Architecture and Passion
1:13:51 - Bulk Food and Budgeting
1:17:19 - New Music Suggestions
1:18:05 - Academic Challenges and Theses
1:19:41 - Graduate School Experiences
1:20:53 - Alcohol and Socialization
1:23:28 - Fashion Choices and Trends
1:24:29 - Cultural Disconnect in Media
1:29:49 - Experiences with Workplaces
1:33:27 - Customer Service and Expectations
1:39:10 - Movie Discussions and Opinions
1:41:02 - Money Management Tips
1:46:28 - Fashion Style Evolution
1:49:35 - Group Dynamics and Dating
1:54:39 - Nature and Hiking Preferences
1:58:51 - Discussion on Aging and Appearance
2:03:16 - The Role of Makeup
2:07:46 - Confidence and Social Interactions
2:15:02 - Dance and Social Engagements

Long Summary

In this episode, we delve into a lively discussion about the recent remake of "Snow White," exploring its many shortcomings and its departure from both the original film and the classic fairy tale. We kick off the conversation by expressing our overall low energy, attributing it to the exhausting experience that was the new "Snow White." Throughout our chat, we share amusing anecdotes comparing the original story's darker elements to the overly sanitized and politically correct narrative of the recent adaptation.

Much of our conversation centers on the glaring inconsistencies and oddities in the new version, from the uncomfortable depictions of the characters to the bizarre CGI choices made for the dwarves, whom we felt lacked life and character. We contrast this with the original story, recounting how the prince buys Snow White's lifeless body, which provides an excellent opportunity for humor. Our banter includes a critique of the film’s attempts to showcase diversity while inadvertently leaving out the charm and nuance that defined its predecessors.

As the discussion flows, we touch on the absurdities of character interactions and song choices, pointing out moments that left us cringing. We lament the lost opportunity to have authentic representation among the dwarves and the plot holes that make the story feel unfocused. The conversation naturally progresses to reflect on broader themes of femininity in film and the implications of modern societal expectations depicted in these stories.

Additionally, we discuss the nature of performances and character portrayals, questioning the authenticity of characters who seem to be overly manufactured rather than genuinely crafted. We share our thoughts on the implications of these portrayals in shaping young viewers' perceptions of women and relationships. Our discussion also acknowledges the complexities of modern storytelling, particularly the prevalence of identity politics in storytelling that seems to overshadow traditional narrative arcs.

Throughout the episode, our comedic chemistry shines as we provide both unique perspectives on the film and relatable insights into contemporary culture, sharing laughs over absurdities while also pondering deeper implications. As we wrap up, we affirm our shared belief in the beauty of classic storytelling and the value of meaningful narratives, urging listeners to be critical consumers of the media they engage with and to support storytelling that honors authenticity over cliché.

Transcript

Stef

[0:00] Good evening, everybody. It is me, me alone.

[0:07] The Dreaded Snow White

Stef

[0:07] Alone. Alone. All right. So I'm afraid to say that we are low energy. Why are we low energy?

[0:14] Fatal Errors in Film

Izzy

[0:14] We made a fatal error.

Stef

[0:15] We made a fatal error.

Izzy

[0:17] Fatal.

Stef

[0:17] A very, very...

Izzy

[0:18] We watched Snow White.

Stef

[0:20] We did. We watched Snow White. Or rather to say, we were trapped in the soulless...

Izzy

[0:26] Snow White stole our souls.

Stef

[0:27] We were trapped in the soulless, dead-eyed universe of Snow White, the new Snow White based upon the 1937 movie. Hey, quick question. Do you know what the original story was?

Izzy

[0:39] What? I don't actually.

Stef

[0:41] So the original story was rewritten a bunch of times, but one of the sort of core original story, there is a prince and he buys Snow White's sleeping corpse from the dwarves.

Izzy

[0:56] Guys won't even ask for numbers nowadays. He's been doing all that back then. Come on, guys. Have your game.

Stef

[1:02] He basically goes to the dwarves and haggles for her corpse-like body. And then what happens is they're carrying her in a glass coffin to deliver her to the prince's lair. She's getting human traffic. She really is. And then they drop her. And she falls, tumbles down the stairs in her lifeless way in the glass shards. But that dislodges the piece of apple from her throat.

Izzy

[1:29] That is so funny.

Stef

[1:30] There's no kiss at all. And they changed it. Now, Rachel's...

Izzy

[1:36] They should have just kept that. That's funny.

Stef

[1:39] Bring her to my lair, the body. I don't know, man.

Izzy

[1:42] That's key, did he? I mean, if they're trying to be all diverse and stuff, right?

Stef

[1:48] Bring her in the oil to the vault of virgins. Yeah, it's a little odd. It's a little odd.

Izzy

[1:55] And the original, not the original, but the Disney one, I believe, there's an age gap of 14 and 31.

[2:01] The Original Fairytale

Stef

[2:01] So many years ago, there was a comedy show where people did improv, and one of them was be the worst person to audition for the role of Romeo in Romeo and Juliet. And there's only two that I remember.

Izzy

[2:16] A straight man?

Stef

[2:17] One is... I'm kidding. One is, well, it's not all about looks, you know? It's about charisma. That's one. And the other was, so this Juliet, she's like 14?

Izzy

[2:30] No that's crazy it's kind of old though

Stef

[2:33] So bad oh does the p and diddy mean oh prince p diddy prince diddy yes nice now do you know do you know that there is a you know if you heard someday my prince will come that's the famous song from the early one of course they couldn't do it because she is a uh a little princess who's kind of one-shotted into radicalism by a scurvy greasy head leftist thief that guy was mad.

Izzy

[2:57] Ugly i'm sorry

Stef

[2:58] Did you get ugly yeah yeah he.

Izzy

[3:00] Was crusty dusty crusty dusty musty why

Stef

[3:04] Did he never need to shave.

Izzy

[3:05] I don't think that man has seen hygiene in 20 days

Stef

[3:10] He had the robin patterson what are you gonna wash your hair.

Izzy

[3:12] With no yeah dirt no he was he was i'm sorry guys he was mad ugly i don't have high standards i really don't i think you can like but i mean like she's

Stef

[3:23] Managed to lower the magnificent standards.

Izzy

[3:24] Of her mother like not vet he can vouch for me i don't have super high standards for guys but that guy was just not it so

Stef

[3:31] Other than the greasy floppy deep fried.

Izzy

[3:33] Hair like you can be ugly and still have charisma seem depressed i've seen like i've liked some guys who would say are definitely below average but they have charisma and like personality and flair but like flair no but they have some like charisma to them he was like dead eye like even in the song like princess problem i don't remember the tune but it was catchy yeah i say that i know i don't remember the tune but whatever like the princess problem once he could have said it with some flair he could have like yeah something like that like i'm not saying like flipped his hair but then the male equivalent or whatever like yeah but

Stef

[4:06] He couldn't flip his hair because it was greased down.

Izzy

[4:07] Flip his hair once oh did he it was traumatic he was ugly that's slow forehead and he didn't need that

Stef

[4:12] Slow hair wave it's it's just wild to me.

Izzy

[4:15] I would have preferred broccoli hair at least that would at least he would have been good looking even if it was generic right

Stef

[4:22] Right so uh other things.

Izzy

[4:25] They roasted Snow White so bad at the end. Sorry. Go on. When the mirror was like, her beauty is from within. Like, wow, they did her dirty with that.

Stef

[4:38] She has rather dusty thighs and she has very, very wide eyes. Because, you know, she's got doe-like prey eyes. You know, the predator eyes are central. Her eyes are like...

Izzy

[4:50] It was so cringe. It was such a hard watch. All right. I had to go on my phone at some point. i was like i literally couldn't watch it i was i was struggling

Stef

[4:58] Now when did you first begin to feel concerned oh.

Izzy

[5:01] Like it the moment it started yeah like that original song it was so

Stef

[5:06] Cringe the uh wish song no one's that happy right like.

[5:09] AI and CGI Dwarves

Izzy

[5:10] I don't know i don't

Stef

[5:11] Like it so some issues for me first of all when you get to the well not first of all but without any particular order spoilers are going to be here. So when they go to the dwarves' house, it did not, it seemed like it was all AI generated.

Izzy

[5:26] Everything looked AI.

Stef

[5:27] It did not look real.

Izzy

[5:29] That preview, sorry, about AI, that preview, it's like the Jesus one.

Stef

[5:33] Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Izzy

[5:34] The king of kings. Yeah. that trailer looked so ai that had to have been that genuine i was looking it up at the beginning of the show because i'm like that had to have been like that was that was that was weird i don't like it that's weird

Stef

[5:48] All right and so the whole set around like the the forest at the um you could tell what was shot in a real forest and what was shot on a stage and for sure the dwarf stuff was on a stage and now originally they had people as dwarves and then they eventually replaced them for, I assume, PC reasons.

[6:04] Casting Controversies

Stef

[6:05] They replaced the dwarves with AI. And these, like, sorry, with CGI. Sorry, with CGI. So then they had these, like, soulless, lacquered garden gnomes of giant, bulbous nosiness.

Izzy

[6:15] They want to do something diverse. Maybe keep Snow White, like, pretty. Yeah. And maybe, you know, cast actual midgets who cannot get acting jobs anywhere. Because they did cast one midget.

Stef

[6:25] There was a midget!

Izzy

[6:25] But, like, you could have just made him a dwarf.

Stef

[6:28] So he was a dwarf, so why did he look so different from all the dwarves?

Izzy

[6:31] Right. Like, are you calling midgets? it's big headed

Stef

[6:34] I don't know okay midget hater now let me let me also say this about the dwarves were how old like 250 275 years to whatever like the.

Izzy

[6:45] Age regressing little one

Stef

[6:46] Yeah yeah i don't and where did he come from there's no females around yeah.

Izzy

[6:50] I had some

Stef

[6:51] Questions it's born too diverse so the dwarves hi ho that was good that was good i think that note was great right and i like that song they.

Izzy

[7:00] Were like bass singers

Stef

[7:02] Yeah i was like why.

Izzy

[7:04] Are y'all saying why am i hearing women yeah i should not be able to like me a 16 year old girl should not be able to hit the same notes as a bunch of 250 year old

Stef

[7:12] Dwarves oh yeah it should be like that low so they are expert miners and they've been mining for like a quarter of a millennia like 250 years so they go down into the mines and they're completely incompetent they hit each other they drop things everything falls apart stuff falls over they turn around with the poles and whack each other completely incompetent if.

Izzy

[7:36] I was like that at work i would not have a job

Stef

[7:38] Well not after 250 years and then they have this magic thing where they touch the rocks and the rocks start to glow and they find all of these diamonds and gems and root like everything and they've got sacks and boxes of this stuff so why are they living in a hovel if they're incredibly rich why don't they just well why did they why didn't they just take all of this diamond and gold and gems and go and hire an army to take over the kingdom just.

Izzy

[8:05] Bothered me y'all are still eating porridge with like 200 gazillion dollars

Stef

[8:09] Oh oh did you notice at the beginning too so rachel zegler, uh rachel zegler is uh really really offended that this guy it takes a couple of pieces of property it takes a couple of pieces of bread or whatever he stole yeah she's like you're stealing.

Izzy

[8:23] She let him take it though

Stef

[8:24] I know but she was she said you're stealing you're a thief right that's bad and then she just wanders in and takes uh takes this property just wanders in takes sleeps in their bed.

Izzy

[8:33] Yeah no property

Stef

[8:35] Uh property prime property principles are a little him and then she's in this giant yellow dress and then and then the the king's guys are coming by and he's like come behind this tree she goes whipping behind this tree with a dress the size of kansas that's yellow and nobody sees anything.

Izzy

[8:51] Nothing i honestly wish they shot her at that point that dress was an abomination it was so ugly in

Stef

[8:57] Between the eyes but where yeah right.

Izzy

[9:00] Can't miss oh

Stef

[9:02] Gosh what else what else bothered me.

Izzy

[9:04] Literally the entire thing well

Stef

[9:06] You like the songs.

[9:06] Musical Moments

Izzy

[9:06] I thought the songs were pretty good with the exception of the first one and like i think the last one but the ones in the middle were good i like the dwarves i thought the uh the evil queen her song was pretty good yeah it was a little bit generic oh i'm evil but like it was still pretty good it was i was listening to it and i was like yeah this is a vibe and then princess problems it was catchy i just don't remember anything i remember princess problems but i couldn't sing it because i don't know the tune right it was it was like when i was listening to it it was catchy yeah but it didn't stick um and what was the other one she had no she didn't i didn't like her songs the whistling one when they were all like cleaning and stuff that was kind of fun oh i can't whistle by the way don't bully me i was trying to whistle in the theater i can't whistle really no um

Stef

[9:53] I just had another one so i don't want to interfere with uh with any rant you might be.

Izzy

[9:59] Having no i'm not renting i'm just saying it's solid music right

Stef

[10:01] So all right so whistle while I'll do work that one. So the dwarves and this woman has almost been murdered. She's fled into the woods. She's grappled by a giant tree. And she's like, we're having fun mopping. You know that girl has never held a mop in her life. Oh, my God.

Izzy

[10:23] She was not mopping correctly. She was not mopping correctly.

Stef

[10:27] It's like, yeah, maybe watch a maid that's cleaned your sort of superstar hotel room once in a while. But that was just cringe.

Izzy

[10:37] Literally i kind of had that experience when i first worked like a year ago or whatever and i was like mopping the ice cream parlor i had not really used a mop like that it was one of those traditional like not traditional but the ones you see at like malls or whatever right i'd never really use that we use different we use swifers and stuff like not swifers i forget what they're called but we don't use mops like that and i did not know how to use it yeah and the girl training me she was she was an interesting character but she was like that's not how you mop and

Stef

[11:02] It's like And you're like, excuse me, princess problems.

Izzy

[11:04] No, but then I did know how to sweep. And she's like, that's not how you sweep. Sweep like this. And I was like, girl. Anyways, I kind of had that situation. But now that I know how to mop, that scene was annoying me. Yeah. It's not that complicated. I learned in like five minutes.

Stef

[11:19] And she spent her whole life mopping because she was an evil queen.

Izzy

[11:22] It's called method acting. I'm not saying if you're playing a drug addict, go, don't get homeless on the streets and have drugs. But you could at least do a mop for like a song where the entire thing revolves around mopping. you're a literal housemaid spend a day cleaning

Stef

[11:34] One of the greatest things I've ever seen on stage was something I directed modestly I say so I wrote a whodunit play with a very um, a very aristocratic and spoiled woman. And I had her describe how the maid was pushing the broom.

[11:49] The Dwarves' Competence

Stef

[11:49] And I worked on this for like an hour with her so that she could say, let me just make sure I can see what I'm doing here. So she could do something like, and I told her to mop. And she did this gesture, like to mop, you know, like that's how you, I just got, I wanted to get the audience to get a sense of how completely detached from any kind of manual labor she was and to mop. And she just did a beautiful job of that. But so what bothered me about this is that you've got these 275 year old ancient asterisk, except for the weird little dewy eyed toadstool guy. But you've got these ancient, you've got these ancient dwarves who are going down doing this horrendous, brutal, injurious manual labor all day. They're up at dawn and they don't come home till nighttime all day 12 hours hiking mining lifting hauling and all of that and then they come home and they do approximately six minutes of housework with animals to help them and then she says i have to do that like every day and it's like they have to be down to mine every day it's this complete blindness to manual labor and i i bet for people who write these kinds of fae yeah.

Izzy

[13:01] You know they're

Stef

[13:02] Screenwriters they're like oh well manual labor must be people thumping into things and it's so funny and of course it's not the real the real trouble is is is is doing the dusting with the birds probably.

Izzy

[13:13] Think like gardening is manual labor well

Stef

[13:15] And and this is this she's the kind of woman who's like well now that you've come back from the mine where you've been down there sucking down coal dust into your gonads well you've got to do half the housework because i've been doing housework all day and it's like i've been down the mine all day all.

Izzy

[13:31] Day and it's still not even clean

Stef

[13:32] Oh now the animal those.

Izzy

[13:35] Animals are annoying

Stef

[13:36] Go on.

Izzy

[13:38] Oh, I'm so dewy-eyed and cute. There were these freaking people in the audience who were like, aww. Every time it came on. Every single time. Aww. Guys, it's a CGI deer. It does not even exist. Shut up. Izzy? You know that entire ad at the beginning of the movie where it's like, don't talk while you're in the movie. And they're like, aww.

Stef

[14:01] Stop it. But to be fair, Izzy, the deer do exist in our hearts.

Izzy

[14:06] Something else is about to exist in your heart.

Stef

[14:09] Some sort of stabby stab um so oh oh.

Izzy

[14:14] Okay so

Stef

[14:16] Uh also it's tough to be upstaged by a hedgehog or a bunny like i was looking at the animals more than i was looking at rachel ziegler because i can i can only look at one thing which means i could only look at one eye or the other i couldn't look at her um because you know if i tried to look at both eyes i would have like chameleon eyes she was a.

Izzy

[14:36] Bad actress okay

Stef

[14:38] So what didn't you like about.

Izzy

[14:39] I thought actually we read on the way back that she did uh lucy gray baird oh

[14:44] The Flaws of Snow White

Stef

[14:44] Sorry yeah yeah.

Izzy

[14:45] Yeah um and i liked i actually don't remember what i said about that movie but i don't remember hating her i think i found i had a noise with her accent that kept coming and going yeah but in that movie she actually had character she like committed a bit she was kind of cool yeah and uh maybe this is something that disney does more because i feel like a lot of the filming can really affect how the line comes off oh yeah But, okay, it's like, at the very end, especially, when she was like, this is my father's home. And it's like, that's your entire plot line.

Stef

[15:16] That's actually Jesus in the temple, by the way. Kicking everyone out. It's like, this is my father's home. Anyway.

Izzy

[15:21] That's literally like, that's your whole plot line. Why do you not even care? Oh, and, sorry, go ahead. No, and like, what were the other ones where she was, I don't even remember. That's the problem.

Stef

[15:32] My father's never coming home.

Izzy

[15:36] And oh yeah yeah the other one when i actually used to watch him right after this because i was like dying um not like dying in terms of having used to watch him but dying in terms of watching the movie you did some i did actually i was just sitting there i was like oh but um what was it she said that one line where she's like uh saying to the dwarf guy like the doctor she's like heal him please quickly we don't have time for this and she's like smiling and saying it like a cutesy little girl it's like hello your love interest is dying so

Stef

[16:07] The doctor is not a doctor but she just keeps asking him to heal.

Izzy

[16:11] Well just heal just

Stef

[16:13] Do it just do it because cute just do it oh my gosh drive me crazy oh and here's the other thing too so again spoiler so she's about to be killed by the queen yeah the revolution is done, greasy boy can't help her uh fish oil follicles can't help her crusty dusty musty crusty dusty musty can't help her so how does she how does she save the entire kingdom she.

Izzy

[16:38] Has the midget do it

Stef

[16:39] No before that she can't even stab him no before that i.

Izzy

[16:42] Don't remember i was not paying

Stef

[16:43] She's about to get stabbed and she's so apparently so here's the cool thing go on paul you.

Izzy

[16:51] Were you used to work as a farmer doing a bunch of dirty musty work all day

Stef

[16:57] That's not what she said okay.

Izzy

[16:59] I'm paraphrasing and don't you miss your life working 12 hour shifts out in the hot sun don't you not want to kill me because i remembered your name because i have nothing better to do with my life than memorize random servants names and and and and please shave off your beard what the heck is that

Stef

[17:18] And then the next one you you were a baker and you have a wife and a child so so if you have a brutal dictatorship full of people who are willing to murder on the say so of the queen hang on remind them you just have to you just have to say their names in their former jobs and the entire tyranny like north korea writing.

Izzy

[17:36] A job resume

Stef

[17:37] Yeah like north korea uh you name it cuba uh china uh soviet russia all you have to do is say hey i know your name and your former occupation all tyranny crumbles oh.

Izzy

[17:49] Do you remember when you were you know what's the dude's leader north korea

Stef

[17:53] Uh kim jong-un i think it is now kim.

[17:55] The Queen's Manipulation

Izzy

[17:55] Jong-un do you remember when when you were when you weren't a dictator wasn't life better then why don't we go back to that i know your name

Stef

[18:03] Yeah that that's wild now you had a theory or a a moral approach that i think bears some examination, which is the queen says to Snow White, she gives her the knife.

Izzy

[18:17] Yeah, why does she just stab her?

Stef

[18:19] Well, A, children's movie. So what?

Izzy

[18:21] But...

Stef

[18:22] I mean, to me, if somebody has repeatedly tried to get you killed.

Izzy

[18:26] They already had those people in there.

Stef

[18:26] Yeah, because she had the black guy go and kill her originally. And then she had all of these people shooting crossbows at her.

Izzy

[18:34] She literally, like Snow White literally just said, this is my father's house. So like, apparently she's supposed to be sad or something. So why don't she use some of that emotion to go stabby stab and solve some problems?

Stef

[18:48] I think what they needed to do, you know, when people are not good at identifying their emotions, They put out those smiley, angry. So they needed to hand one of those out and put numbers saying she's expressing this emotion at this point.

Izzy

[18:58] If one is sad and ten is happy, rank yourself on a scale of one to ten.

Stef

[19:03] And I love the mania, the manic depressive of Snow White. She's like absolutely terrified and appalled that she's been kicked out of the kingdom and sent out to die. And she's been grappled by this tree, dropped in the water. and then she finally passes out after doing a home invasion because she cares so much about property. She falls asleep. She wakes up. She sees the dewy-eyed garden gnome staring at her. She screams and then she has a complete blast, happy, yay, yay, yay, doing the whistle while you work. And then she's like, but my father, it's blah, blah, blah. I'm like, holy crap. You might want to take some meds to even out those spikes and valleys there, young lady.

Izzy

[19:40] Yeah.

[19:40] The Name's Origin

Stef

[19:41] Now, she was called Smell White because her skin was white as snow, but they changed that. Did they? What was their explanation as to why she was called Snow White?

Izzy

[19:48] Oh, because she was born on a snowy night. Right.

Stef

[19:50] So next time they're going to have a space alien at a cocaine party saying it's Snow White, right? Okay. Cocaine can be called Snow, just so you know. I didn't know. Didn't know. Oh, the innocence. I'm so innocent. So are the dwarves bigger than hobbits?

Izzy

[20:04] Their heads are.

Stef

[20:06] Yeah. Yeah.

[20:07] Dwarves and Hobbits

Izzy

[20:08] It's all head. Yeah. Talk about shiny foreheads.

Stef

[20:11] Has anyone hit a Y if you've seen it? or not.

Izzy

[20:18] I would not recommend it

Stef

[20:19] Oh please don't.

Izzy

[20:20] Please actually don't

Stef

[20:20] See it yeah please don't we cannot.

Izzy

[20:22] Support this level of like bad it's level of bad that's i've just regressed to like words

Stef

[20:29] Yeah it is it is very rough and i don't know why like i i know all the controversy and the race swapping and stuff like that i i get all of that and i get that they have to put the multicultural stuff in the village which generally was not the case historically, but still better than Assassin's Creed, which apparently has offended the entire Japanese Imperial family and the Prime Minister. The fact that.

Izzy

[20:50] They literally had the Prime Minister talking about it.

Stef

[20:52] So, I get all of that, but... So, Izzy, there was a protest after the 2007-2008 financial crash. We actually were... Do you remember the place in Florida we went down to? We stayed for a while, and you got a scooter from a garage sale. I don't.

Izzy

[21:09] I'm too young.

Stef

[21:10] Yeah, you were like two, so you were pretty young back then. But... So there were these protests about all of this stuff, and it was a very conscious decision on the part of the alphabet agencies, like the intelligence agencies. They said, these guys are too united. We're going to infect them with identity politics about sex and race and class, and we're going to just get them fighting each other. Now, of course, in that sort of multicultural environment, that's exactly what the queen would do. If she would just turn all of the ethnicities against each other.

Izzy

[21:40] I mean, I don't understand. I mean, everyone hated her. why didn't one of the guards just go up and stab her when she's staring at herself I guess you should see him in the reflection but like I just don't get it how are you that scared of her because the reason that never happened in history is because it was God who made them like oh this is like the second to God so if you kill him you're like sentenced to hell for the rest of your life but like for this There was no real reason. I mean, she had magic, but if you, you know, she's sleeping, stab, stab, it's over.

Stef

[22:09] Well, and it also is always the case that they always portray the guards as really, really reluctant to carry out the evil rulers' commands.

Izzy

[22:19] Yeah, no, they're not.

Stef

[22:20] Generally, no.

Izzy

[22:20] Remember that study? It's like electrocuted guy for getting math questions wrong and like 70% of the population just kills him?

Stef

[22:28] Yes, yes. so uh it is um how do they not have dwarves in snow white and seven dwarves they do have they do.

Izzy

[22:34] They're just they're just like they're just

Stef

[22:37] Kind of soulless cgi beast right oh my.

Izzy

[22:40] God the endless zoom ins on their

Stef

[22:41] Face yeah you were talking i actually.

Izzy

[22:42] Don't even care they're so cringe they're so oh am i supposed to mimic your emotion and feel sad no no you're dumb

Stef

[22:48] I'm sorry you want to break that out a little more no i.

[22:51] Cringe Cinematic Techniques

Izzy

[22:51] Don't it's like they just zoom in to try and get you to do like mimic their emotions when you see someone's face yeah you're just going to mimic it a little bit right um and it's so it's it's so it's just it's not like it's not appealing it's a bad filmmaking technique i felt i was cringing i had to look at my phone i don't like looking at my phone when i'm in a movie theater i was cringing so bad i can't watch this

Stef

[23:14] I thought we were going to end up in their nasal cavities or something like the zoom right up the nose and into the brain that.

Izzy

[23:19] Would have been interesting at least

Stef

[23:21] Um could.

Izzy

[23:22] Have seen that there was nothing in there

Stef

[23:23] Also the mini dwarf actually reminded me of a guy who's a good friend of mine who had a low forehead and really wide ears he just he reminded me of a guy i knew when i was younger anyway but this guy obviously was infatuated with snow white right like he dewy-eyed oh she was so wonderful but he'd come back but then when snow white gets into the you know vertical grease pen cowlick guy uh the thief he's like yeah it's fine it's like no no no if you're really infatuated with a woman, you're gonna hit the guy with a saucepan who she's in love with not that would've been.

Izzy

[23:56] So funny though

Stef

[23:57] I gotta get me one of these no that.

Izzy

[23:59] Would've been funny like if they if they had a beef or something that would've been so funny cause she would've been like dude you're a dwarf

Stef

[24:06] You come up to my thigh.

Izzy

[24:07] Yeah, you're like knee height.

Stef

[24:08] Right, right. So, oh gosh, what was the other thing I was going to say? It's all at the end. I think I was looking for that because they really did play up how dewy-eyed he was towards her. And I was looking for him being mad that she went for- Well.

Izzy

[24:22] Didn't they have the bashful guy? Yeah. Why was it the happy one that was in love with her, not the bashful?

Stef

[24:27] Right, right, right.

Izzy

[24:28] Huh? It's literally in the name. I don't get it. I literally don't get it.

Stef

[24:33] Somebody says i took my nephew to see one of the disney star wars movies in 2017 the kathleen kennedy wokeness was so bad i haven't been to another movie since that was it for me yeah yeah so i just uh also this guy this guy is so great like her dad is so great that he has no capacity to figure out an evil woman right although you could say maybe she put a spell on him or something like that right so her dad excuse me oh her.

Izzy

[25:00] Dad oh sorry sorry i forgot yeah

Stef

[25:02] Her dad married this evil queen and then she kills him, right? And it's like male susceptibility to female beauty is so bad that you'll just stare as someone kills you and then takes over your kingdom and trashes your daughter.

[25:15] Male Vulnerability

Izzy

[25:16] And like where is she even from? He's just going to marry some peasants?

Stef

[25:18] No, she was from a mysterious lady from far away.

Izzy

[25:22] That's what I mean. Where is she even from? You could say far away than in the sewers.

Stef

[25:26] The one thing I will say that was good about this, and it's not much, is that at least she wasn't, taking on 10 armed guards and winning physically like she didn't do any physical fighting right.

Izzy

[25:40] I would have liked her more if she did i hate to say it but like she had nothing going for her yeah at least she could have been like okay maybe you have no personality but you can like attack people and you're a really good fighter at least that would have been like interesting she could have been super buff that would have been funny like super

Stef

[25:57] Buff what do you mean i don't know well wait on snorting protein powder and like sit.

Izzy

[26:03] Delicious maybe she could have eaten the deer to hit her protein that would have been a better protein no that's terrible you're laughing did you laugh once during the movie that's what i mean i need to write one of these disney hire me i can fix you the

Stef

[26:24] Deer are like one of the down soldiers.

Izzy

[26:25] Or the soldiers period like i mean if they're dead they're dead what else are you gonna do what do you think happened in war when they ran out of rations. Weakest man's dinner.

Stef

[26:36] What part of the human anatomy has the most protein do you think? Wait, we looked this up. Definitely the muscles. We looked this up once though.

Izzy

[26:42] There's like 90,000 calories in a person.

Stef

[26:44] And I think in your average American it's three times that. Oh my gosh. Although they're pretty marbled.

[26:48] The Gruesome Reality

Izzy

[26:48] I'm not going to get my protein out of that.

Stef

[26:51] Oh, that would be great. Snow wife, she could be like bench pressing a bar with like six dwarves on each end.

Izzy

[26:57] You know, I think if they're going to do diversity you should have hired like a buff black man to be snow white. and they could have they could have still sent faris of them all

Stef

[27:06] Absolutely why not.

Izzy

[27:07] Maybe they even could have like a little wig on kind of funny a little dainty lipstick some mascara

Stef

[27:15] Well, because a black guy could be born in a snowstorm. Yeah. Absolutely no reason why not.

Izzy

[27:18] Anyone could.

Stef

[27:19] Absolutely no reason why not. Yeah. So you think that she should have been buff on steroids. No, not on steroids.

Izzy

[27:25] Just eating deer.

Stef

[27:25] Just eating deer.

Izzy

[27:26] Yeah, like the little bluebirds. Like she could be like, oh, you're so pretty. Nom. Like an apple. You know, like she could call them with her whistle and just like nom, nom, nom. Like me with the Panera Bread Apple.

Stef

[27:36] So at the beginning when I get an image of what I would do, she brings the deer over and then she'd just have her entire jaw and then she's like an anaconda and just off the entire deer. Now, if you did it quick enough, the kids would be like, Mommy, where did the deer go? There's like a little tuft of the deer tail and a little white tail coming out her mouth.

Izzy

[27:58] All of those annoying people in the audience would go, aww.

Stef

[28:04] And all of the people for the ethical treatment of animals, it's like, we were not expecting to have to boycott this movie.

Izzy

[28:10] The queen could have been a vegan.

Stef

[28:13] That's right.

Izzy

[28:15] She could have just eaten the queen.

Stef

[28:18] Oh, my gosh.

Izzy

[28:19] When she fell asleep in the original movie with the little glass casket, she could have just punched it and broken out. Or instead of having to roll down the stairs to get the apple out, she could have just coughed it because she doesn't eat vegetables.

Stef

[28:33] Wait, wait. So the evil queen would have had to put the drug inside a squirrel, rather than an apple. She's like, I'm not a fruitarian. give me the.

Izzy

[28:41] Apple what is this health nutrition

Stef

[28:46] Fiber what am I a dying Steve Jobs give me a squirrel oh fantastic yeah I mean we're available for rewrites I suppose oh.

Izzy

[28:56] Hire me hire me right now hire me I don't have a job.

Stef

[29:02] You know, whenever there's a waterfall, I just like to see her going up, you know, like a salmon. Climbing the water? No, no, climbing and getting the salmon. It's like from the air, just swallowing them whole. Yeah. Bear style.

Izzy

[29:13] Instead of the seven dwarves, it could have been the seven bears and they could have just hunted fish.

Stef

[29:17] Nice. Nice. So she could tunnel for them just with her bear arms. Right. Like just flex. Oh, that'd be excellent.

Izzy

[29:22] We should write a comedy.

Stef

[29:24] I think we just did.

[29:25] The Future of Representation

Izzy

[29:25] Oh, yeah.

Stef

[29:26] I think we just did. Stef, when do you think the Girlboss stuff is going to end? When did you first start seeing it? Star Wars? No, Girlboss stuff started around the movie Alien and Terminator 2. Wonder Woman? Well, but Wonder Woman was, she was so impractical. And she wore basically a bikini. It was just for men. Yeah. Well, yeah, I guess. Did you see how Netflix cast a white kid on a murder case based on what a black kid did?

Izzy

[29:51] I'm sorry, he said casted a white kid.

Stef

[29:54] Yes, we try not. Not everyone is first language English.

Izzy

[29:57] No, I'm going to bully everyone. If you can't write properly, I'm going to bully you. I can't write properly. I bully myself over it. I don't even know the difference between a semicolon and a colon.

Stef

[30:05] So in England, there was a murder committed by a 15-year-old black kid. And in the adaptation called Adolescence, which is receiving a lot of traction, they took out the black kid and replaced him with the white kid.

Izzy

[30:18] Oh, so now it's fine to not be diverse.

[30:20] Misalignment in Casting

Stef

[30:20] But the good news is I think Matt Damon's going to be playing Nelson Mandela in a future movie. So I think that'll be lovely. For those people.

Izzy

[30:27] I only know Mandela Catalog from YouTube.

Stef

[30:30] What is a Mandela Catalog? I'm so uncultured. Mandela Catalog?

Izzy

[30:33] It's like an analog horror. Who is Nelson Mandela?

Stef

[30:38] Oh, Nelson Mandela was a leader of the resistance movement against the government in...

Izzy

[30:43] And who's the guy playing him?

Stef

[30:45] Matt Damon. Matt Damon is actually the world's most profitable actor. Oh, you want to hear a terrible story?

Izzy

[30:53] No, but wait, is it good or bad?

Stef

[30:55] Oh, it's just because he's a white guy playing a black icon. Oh, okay. Sorry, that made a little more sense without it being explained. I saw this thing. So you remember the movie Avatar?

Izzy

[31:05] Ugh.

Stef

[31:05] Yeah.

Izzy

[31:06] Second one?

[31:06] Lost Opportunities in Film

Stef

[31:07] Uh first oh.

Izzy

[31:08] First one was good

Stef

[31:08] So uh james cameron who's the director said of the movie avatar he approached matt damon this actor uh to to play him to play the lead in avatar and he said listen i don't need a movie star because the movie is the star like it's so visual and blah blah blah and but he said but you're a movie star you'll help open the movie i'll give you 10 of the movie.

Izzy

[31:28] Oh and he said

Stef

[31:29] No so right this would have been about 200 million dollars oh and the reason he didn't do it was because he'd finished up one of the born ultimatum movies which is like a sort of like a mission impossible kind of style movie yeah and he um was needed for in case they needed reshoots he didn't want to start on another movie so he gave up he said you will never find an actor who's given up more money than me that's giving.

Izzy

[31:53] Same vibes as the guy who bought a bitcoin or bought a pizza with 10 000 bitcoin

Stef

[31:57] Oh yeah that's uh that's painful but you know we can at least hope it was a great pizza pizza's.

Izzy

[32:03] Not great guys unpopular opinion pizza tastes bad i hate tomato sauce i'm a tomato sauce hater

Stef

[32:11] I mean you don't have to get it with tomato sauce it's.

Izzy

[32:14] Okay with pesto yeah but it's too oily with pesto

Stef

[32:17] Okay give me your top 33 and a third no give me give me your top five things that you feel are overrated in the world definitely.

Izzy

[32:26] Pizza's number one

Stef

[32:27] Okay.

Izzy

[32:30] Number two, autism awareness. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. I'm kidding.

Stef

[32:36] I'm strapped in for this ride. Take me where you need to.

Izzy

[32:40] I'm kidding. Do you mean like food or like?

Stef

[32:43] Anything. What things that you think? You think music, movies, anything.

Izzy

[32:48] Taylor Swift, of course. I don't think like she, honestly, I don't even really like her old stuff. Okay. I think Sabrina Carpenter has too much hate. She's got some cool stuff. I like Sabrina Carpenter.

Stef

[32:58] That's not the way. yeah that's the one right.

Izzy

[33:00] I don't like that one i

Stef

[33:02] Don't like well your yeah your musical tastes are overrated yeah um.

Izzy

[33:05] That's actually no they aren't everyone hates them oh your musical taste yeah everyone hates my musical taste oh

Stef

[33:10] No actually i like some of your songs.

Izzy

[33:11] Yeah right um

Stef

[33:12] Except for the one you played me the other day.

Izzy

[33:13] Yeah um

Stef

[33:14] Okay so so you think sabrina carpenter gets too much hate taylor swift gets too much love yes okay.

[33:19] Overrated Cultural Phenomena

Izzy

[33:19] Um but i gotta say they're definitely trying to make sabrina carpenter the new upcoming taylor swift because taylor swift is aging out she's like what like almost 40 yeah she's aging out yeah i tried to warn her and being like in a high school i love the man right 400 years ago at the beginning of time itself um so that's two yeah yeah uh no

Stef

[33:42] Three because autism awareness.

Izzy

[33:43] No i'm kidding i'm not that

Stef

[33:45] Was like so random.

Izzy

[33:45] For me i just thought it'd be funny i like being unpredictable okay what else um oh my gosh wait i don't uh i don't even know burgers i'm just going back to food i don't know anything else i'm on culture um go on oh like like like like like gaming gaming gaming i've tried to play i don't maybe it's just because i'm a woman and like i prefer washing dishes but i've tried doing like first person shooters i've played fortnight i've done like roblox and stuff minecraft i like minecraft i like some more social games like among us who suck that kind of thing but like a lot of shooters and like the popular ones like halo um i'm blanking fortnight halo fortnight uh assassin call of duty call of duty yeah i was just gonna like that those kind of games you know the popular ones they're crap like overwatch balorad that kind of thing they're just not good i'm sorry They're like, I don't, maybe some people like them, but I just really find, they're so boring. I don't want to spend that much time just to get a slightly better power up. And what do you mean a headshot's not an automatic kill?

Stef

[35:01] Like, I don't know. No, no, because if it's a liberal.

Izzy

[35:05] Ugh.

Stef

[35:06] Then we're back to autism.

Izzy

[35:07] Awareness the last of us i don't know i'm just saying it could when

Stef

[35:13] When so when did games start to suck because you and i used to play some games and it's been years since we found a game.

Izzy

[35:17] Like 10 years genuinely i feel like games started sucking like 10 years ago maybe a bit less right but that's when it like started and they all just got really really generic but i mean it works because men are like wasting their lives playing video games or young men right so i'm saying like clearly older

Stef

[35:31] Games remember when like 94 percent of people playing older games.

Izzy

[35:34] Yeah red dead redemption is still like yeah huge popular or red dead too i mean i

Stef

[35:38] Never got into the western genre either in movies or.

Izzy

[35:40] In games i don't particularly like uh western yeah

Stef

[35:43] There's no magic.

Izzy

[35:43] No swords i don't like okay i love fantasy but i can i cannot stand coming up with fantasy stories i've tried to but the magic always feels like such a cheat i hate that it's like if i have a plot hole or whatever and there's magic uh it annoys me it really annoys me and i i lose interest in the story i cannot stand plot holes that's like my biggest pet peeve but sometimes that will stop me from creating like good stories because frankly like the majority of stories all have potholes in fact pretty much everything does because it's not real life and even real life has potholes but like i'm just saying it's something that annoys me and it like gets in the way of other stuff it's not necessarily a good thing but anyways um

Stef

[36:19] That's what i'm sorry go ahead.

Izzy

[36:21] No you go well

Stef

[36:22] That's sorry i'm just whipping back to the movie because the thing that bothered me about the woman saying oh i know your name and your old job and they all just lay down their weapons it's like this bizarre thing that women have that they can just talk people who are kind of murderous and corrupt and dysfunctional like the criminals are just oh they just need love it's understanding uh it's not their fault.

[36:40] The State of Gaming

Izzy

[36:40] Literally all the like literally all the uh the criminals were good guys yeah

Stef

[36:47] Yeah yeah uh try a song of ice and fire very spare on the magic.

Izzy

[36:52] I've heard of that yeah i think i have I've heard of a lot of stuff, and I haven't actually gotten into a lot of stuff. I would say RoboBeast. There are a lot of good games out there, but more niche games from smaller studios. AA Gaming is just a wasteland right now. I absolutely agree.

Stef

[37:06] What does AA mean? Anti-aliasing?

Izzy

[37:08] I don't know what it actually stands for, but it means, like, very popular.

Stef

[37:11] Oh, I know. Actually, I do remember what it stands for. Oh! But, um... Oh, yeah. When games... Have you seen this kind of stuff? Like, when games started going bad? Oh, yeah. When they went to, like, a lot of just woke... non-gamers or non-historical gamers.

[37:27] The Pitfalls of Identity Politics

Izzy

[37:28] It's not even games like it's just doing diversity hires like hire whoever's best for the job it doesn't matter who they are but meritocracy

Stef

[37:34] Is bigotry what can i tell you but.

Izzy

[37:35] Um i would say yeah popular games is definitely a wasteland i haven't seen anything good come out recently that's popular like a name a name game and

Stef

[37:43] We do have a bit of hate on for the gaming just insofar as it tends to eclipse sort of hangouts and social life.

Izzy

[37:50] Yeah i also i definitely find that i think i had some online friends i still do but um definitely more online friends in the past and it was a great especially over covid like a great way to meet people and hang out but now it's like my friends will be oh let's let's call and play games like roblox i don't know why robots is a big thing still like that's

Stef

[38:08] Not a game it's just a game environment.

Izzy

[38:09] It's like a host for games yeah it's like

Stef

[38:12] You can make your own.

Izzy

[38:13] I don't get why like guys we're all teenagers roblox was like for nine-year-olds but that's okay anyways um they'll be all like that I'm like, why don't we just get together?

Stef

[38:23] Let's go to the mall.

Izzy

[38:24] I'm the youngest in the friend group. They're all 18. Yep. And none of them can drive. With the exception of one guy, but his parents, I think they, like, his parents always have the car. So, like, I don't understand. I don't understand. I'm trying, like, I'm literally the next thing on my list, and I'm going to start doing this. I'm just going to do this after, like, this right now, is start studying for my, like, G1. Because by the time I get to drive, all my friends are going to be either still living at home or in college using taxis because they're all 18, and they, like, they can't drive. how are you that old and unable to drive you're so lame well

Stef

[39:04] I didn't have a car when i was that age i didn't have a car okay.

Izzy

[39:07] That's not your fault no i'm saying all these like they come from like middle class upper middle class and it's like they have cars yeah like i know the oldest in the family at least one or two families right now they bought their own car like a secondhand thing with a bit of help from their parents but they still bought their own car and it's like none of younger siblings can drive right that's lame anyways

Stef

[39:31] Crazy is there anything else that bothers you with this overratedness.

Izzy

[39:34] So yeah the first one was what uh pizza burgers no no pizza taylor swift sabrina

Stef

[39:43] Carpenter no no underrated.

Izzy

[39:44] There she's on there all right burgers taylor swift i did say pizza or sorry sorry pizza taylor swift i did say burgers i'm gonna scratch that i don't really care i mean they feel like they used to be more overrated but not anymore um What was the third?

Stef

[39:58] Alcohol?

Izzy

[39:59] No.

Stef

[40:00] Just kidding.

Izzy

[40:01] Underrated.

Stef

[40:01] Underrated.

Izzy

[40:02] It could get more rated.

Stef

[40:04] Oh, because it's good for cleaning.

Izzy

[40:05] The next one, like, video games.

Stef

[40:06] Yeah.

Izzy

[40:06] Or, like... I don't even know.

Stef

[40:14] Well, I'll tell you what I imagine will be the case for you when you get older is bars.

Izzy

[40:19] Oh, bars. Yeah, I feel like that'll be pretty true.

Stef

[40:21] I feel bars. Because my whole life I grew up with these beer commercials, right? Now, you don't really see commercials like that the way we used to.

Izzy

[40:27] No, but I get it. Yeah.

Stef

[40:29] So I would see all of these beer commercials and it looked to be the greatest thing ever. Like nectar of the gods, ambrosia of heaven. I know.

Izzy

[40:38] That's what I grew up thinking.

Stef

[40:39] I was like, beer has got to be the greatest thing in the known universe because look how many people destroy their lives over it and drive drunk. And so I remember when I first tasted my first beer, I'm like, okay, what boat bottom was this pumped out of? What? Sorry? What? What? The British one. Or like there's this one called Guinness. It's like super thick. And I used to say like, you know, hack me off a slice of Guinness.

Izzy

[41:06] No, right. But I don't know. No, I feel that'll probably be a big one. Vars and like, oh, it's other stuff. I have one like on the tip of my tongue.

Stef

[41:14] All nighters are overrated.

[41:15] The Struggles of Youth

Izzy

[41:16] I love all nighters. Like they ruin me, but they're kind of fun. They're so productive. I'm so productive at night.

Stef

[41:22] Yeah.

Izzy

[41:23] And like.

Stef

[41:24] We're the night guards. Mom's the morning guard.

Izzy

[41:26] Yeah, right. But no, it's, what was the other thing? Oh, when you were saying about beers, that's literally how I felt about pizza. Everyone was like, oh, pizza. Oh, pizza's to die for. It ruins all my diets. And I had, what? No, it's not that good. But anyways, um, I don't know the last thing. Oh, boba tea. It's not that tasty. The bobas are tasteless and it's just sweet milk. I'd rather, oh, genuinely protein shakes tastes better. Oh, he's just like dying.

Stef

[42:02] And if drama is dramatic.

Izzy

[42:04] And I literally can't drink them without my, like, anyways, it's just.

Stef

[42:08] So but we used to have bobas.

Izzy

[42:10] I never really liked them no i just like sugar right so i drank them but like if i'm gonna have something like a sweet milky drink i'm gonna get a protein shake genuinely that's not because it's healthy it's just because it's like it i don't taste the difference between the milk base and the protein drink like they taste the exact same but

Stef

[42:28] Technically or objectively or legally your relationship to protein is like a stalker's relationship to.

Izzy

[42:34] A You have less protein than I do. You have like 50 grams a day max.

Stef

[42:38] Right.

Izzy

[42:39] That's pathetic. You're supposed to have like 100.

Stef

[42:41] But why?

Izzy

[42:42] Because you're supposed to.

Stef

[42:44] But why?

Izzy

[42:45] Because that's what we evolved on.

Stef

[42:46] I'm not like a weightlifter. Why do I need all this protein?

Izzy

[42:49] You're okay. Well, it's like, why do you need all these calories? Because you're supposed to have it.

Stef

[42:53] No, no, but I need the calories to live.

Izzy

[42:55] And you need protein to thrive.

[42:56] Food and Identity

Stef

[42:57] And that's why I have the protein.

Izzy

[42:58] 50 grams. 50 grams.

Stef

[43:00] Well, how many do you have 80.

Izzy

[43:02] To a hundred?

Stef

[43:03] And how do you feel that this benefits you as a whole?

Izzy

[43:05] I think it keeps me pretty muscular and strong.

Stef

[43:08] I think you said it fills you up more, right?

Izzy

[43:10] I don't know. I find fiber like porridge and stuff fills me up more.

Stef

[43:14] Right. Right. Okay. Anything else that you've bothered that bothers you about contemporary culture that you've seen too much of?

Izzy

[43:23] I see those like the main things. I don't know. There's a lot that bothers me. I'll be watching. I'm such a hater. i like i'm watching instagram or whatever and i'm like scrolling i'm like that person sucks and then i watch another one it's like why did you say that

Stef

[43:36] Or why do you say i just got distracted by 300.

Izzy

[43:38] Grams per day for me

Stef

[43:39] 200 pounds so he says that he takes 300 grams per day and he has to eat 200 pounds of protein powder he's.

Izzy

[43:46] Saying he's 200 pounds

Stef

[43:47] You see people they're not for sale i don't care if he's in england we.

Izzy

[43:52] Need to go back in time

Stef

[43:53] Okay so 300 grams per day for me he's 200 pounds how do you get 300 grams you eat.

Izzy

[43:58] A lot of beef

Stef

[43:59] Okay like in the in the field it's.

Izzy

[44:02] Not on account

Stef

[44:03] We're going back rachel's okay so sorry you were saying something else when i got distracted i.

Izzy

[44:10] Was just saying i'm a hater like i hate a lot of tramps i'm just watching videos and i'm like oh you suck and i'll scroll and i'll be like that makes no sense and i scroll i'm such a hater

Stef

[44:19] Uh there is a a time of caustic uh cynicism and negativity which is not nothing it's not wrong about it or anything like that as teenagers uh so so big miss big how do you get your how do you get your protein is it just he's just face planting in the beef.

Izzy

[44:40] I don't know, dude. I don't like beef. Oh, beef's overrated. For all these protein bodybuilders, nah, guys, like chicken tastes better. Chicken breast and white rice. What a Chad. Chad behavior. You don't need flavor. You need games. Food is not love. Food is fuel.

Stef

[44:56] So if he's, if I'm 50 grams.

Izzy

[44:58] Taste is for women.

Stef

[45:01] If I'm 50 grams and he's 300 grams, does it mean he's six times Chadder?

Izzy

[45:06] Yeah.

Stef

[45:07] So that's the only factor.

Izzy

[45:08] It's like vegan levels of protein. no genuinely vegans get more protein

Stef

[45:12] How do you know how much protein i get because.

Izzy

[45:16] I look at what

Stef

[45:16] You eat yeah that's true are you saying that uh you've had to take like 10.

Izzy

[45:22] Grams from the yogurt maybe 20 from the chicken wrap zero from the fries

Stef

[45:27] Oh no it wasn't a chicken wrap it was turkey does turkey have protein i.

Izzy

[45:30] Don't think it's

Stef

[45:30] Victory oh my protein maybe.

Izzy

[45:34] That's 30 so far like one from the fries and what else do you have today like cream that's nothing you had fruit that's nothing you had toast with peanut butter maybe a few grams

Stef

[45:46] No it wasn't peanut butter it was almond butter can you post the protein video you keep mentioning.

Izzy

[45:54] I can't hit my that

Stef

[45:56] One it's on Instagram right.

Izzy

[45:58] I can't hit my protein on Instagram

Stef

[46:00] Look up I can't hit my protein and apparently there's just a big picture of me.

Izzy

[46:07] Oh bro why are you trying to get protein from fast food just like

Stef

[46:13] I'm sorry grams from a double quarter pounder with cheese so if i have six of those okay never mind i've chatted i've chatted 300.

Izzy

[46:22] Might be a bit excessive but

Stef

[46:24] 50 well it's not if you're actually like a farm implement like if you're actually a thresher or a scyther then 300 is probably quite right i.

Izzy

[46:35] Guarantee you he's not

Stef

[46:36] You guarantee guarantee all right uh so big why do you need this much uh why do you need this much protein just out of curiosity if you could tell me oh uh yeah if also if you could donate apparently i need some protein so if you could donate uh is he shaming chef's protein intake is peak entertainment cut fat put off diet what cut fat put off diet helped me lose some weight and your grammar sometimes limit or remove carbs in days i don't work out.

Izzy

[47:07] If you're unable to type

Stef

[47:08] Oog oog have.

Izzy

[47:10] Protein bound his fingers are too muscular and he can't hit the keyboard properly

Stef

[47:14] Google says 300 grams of protein is 1.5 to 2 pounds of meat yeah so like one of my biceps, One gram by a pound of your weight is good for muscle building.

[47:26] The Protein Debate

Stef

[47:27] So I'd eat like 190, 188, 190. Okay. Oh, somebody sent me $5 for the protein fund. How much protein is $5 going to buy me?

Izzy

[47:34] I think yogurt.

Stef

[47:36] One vat of you. And there's protein in yogurt, right? Yeah. Especially the beef yogurt. Like Greek yogurt.

Izzy

[47:40] Beef yogurt.

Stef

[47:41] Look at that. You can't see the frown. What are you talking about? What was it? Bile? Is that your new word? It's vile. It's become. It's vile. Cut out fat.

Izzy

[47:51] Abominable.

Stef

[47:52] I think he means cut out fat from your abdomen with a box cutter. Scissors. Scissors, yeah, or squirrel teeth. Or just be around Snow White and she's got to boost her.

[48:03] The Quest for Culinary Skills

Izzy

[48:04] Thank you for the way.

Stef

[48:05] Thank you. Thank you, Dylan. Appreciate that. Appreciate that.

Izzy

[48:07] I will make sure I will force feed him. The entire game, instead of cocaine, we're doing way.

Stef

[48:13] What?

Izzy

[48:15] How else do you think he gets energized for the show?

Stef

[48:17] Yeah, that's fair. Oh, yeah, because I tell you, like, we came out of that movie just drained.

Izzy

[48:22] Oh i wanted to pass away

Stef

[48:23] It was like it was it was the most and i don't know kid it's hard to exactly explain why but it was just kind of.

Izzy

[48:29] Soulless literally because no one even cared like we're all like so dead and like there was no emotion and it's like usually in musicals i'm like can we stop singing and this one i was like oh please another song please

Stef

[48:40] Give me another song because everybody was just so here's another thing.

Izzy

[48:43] They at least the instruments had characters they

Stef

[48:44] Did a lot of uh retakes for this movie they had to they.

Izzy

[48:49] Couldn't cast okay so maybe Make all the dwarves animated, but they won't recast the literal leads who suck.

Stef

[48:57] Yeah, they needed a guy like Flynn Rider, because that's one of my favorite animated movies or that kind of stuff. He was great, and they needed someone like that, and this guy just wasn't it. He just looked like he should be living in a loft and reading too much leftist material. He looked like a journalist. Oh, no ultimate insult. He looked like a journalist.

Izzy

[49:20] And journalists don't eat protein because they're all vegan.

Stef

[49:24] It upsets me they didn't have dwarfs.

Izzy

[49:30] Yeah.

Stef

[49:30] But they did have dwarfs.

Izzy

[49:32] No, they didn't. What? Not real dwarfs.

Stef

[49:34] Oh, like, okay, I've got it.

Izzy

[49:36] Not like the ones you buy.

Stef

[49:37] Right, right.

Izzy

[49:38] You didn't even hear. Huh? No one says right right to that.

Stef

[49:42] Sorry, what did you say? Not the ones you buy. Right. I still don't understand why anyone would go to the book.

Izzy

[49:49] I don't either.

Stef

[49:49] We took the bullet so you don't have to I.

Izzy

[49:52] Didn't want to What, you think I want to go watch Snow White?

Stef

[49:57] But you get to rag on it. That's not fun for you?

Izzy

[50:00] It's like, I can rag on it either way. I can watch your review and rag on it.

Stef

[50:04] That's right. Okay, yeah, that's fair. So I thought it was worth going to... I'm always curious about the sort of contemporary state of culture. I'm always curious about what gets funded. This film, do you know how much this film cost?

Izzy

[50:14] Like 200.

Stef

[50:16] 200 million dollars.

Izzy

[50:18] Why is it so warm in here?

Stef

[50:19] 200. Hot air? Do you find... I don't know if I can turn the fan on. Um... did you see the emilia perez movie i don't even know what that is i'm afraid i.

Izzy

[50:29] Don't even know who that is

Stef

[50:30] I don't know either okay let me ask you this has anyone seen any good movies lately, it doesn't have to be in the theater it could be anywhere has anyone seen any good movies oh that's a good idea thanks very nice i'm sweating oh mate what.

Izzy

[50:47] Are you more than bike riders

Stef

[50:48] Like Now my eyebrows are going to wave.

Izzy

[50:51] Maybe that's a sign to like snip, snip.

[50:53] The Impact of Travel

Stef

[50:53] Snip, snip. Shave. Shave, yeah. One eyebrow. Just one.

Izzy

[50:57] Maybe the middle one.

Stef

[50:58] I liked the Led Zeppelin documentary. All right.

Izzy

[51:00] Who is that? I think that's some singer.

Stef

[51:03] So I played you one of their songs. No, 70s. Actually, late 60s, 70s.

Izzy

[51:07] Yeah, I only played you one of their songs.

Stef

[51:08] Yeah, yeah. So a Zeppelin was one of those giant air ships. And a Led Zeppelin goes over like a Led Zeppelin means it's going to crash. So they actually had Led Zeppelin, like L-E-A-D, but then they were concerned that everyone was going to think it was Led Zeppelin. So they just make it Led, L-E-D.

Izzy

[51:24] I mean, that makes sense.

Stef

[51:26] Can we get a full caloric breakdown of Stef's daily eating habits so we can roast him for it?

Izzy

[51:31] Absolutely. I will do this.

Stef

[51:34] But not now.

Izzy

[51:35] No, I don't try your food.

Stef

[51:37] Right, right. Well, I mean, so today, I didn't really eat. I had a yogurt bowl that you made me very kindly. Toast and almond butter. Toast and almond butter. And then I had a turkey and avocado sandwich. And a couple of sweet potato fries. Didn't finish those. They weren't great. And then I had a little kind bar. I think that's it. and a couple of coffees uh i saw mel gibson's the man without a face okay last movie i saw was barbie i thought barbie was kind of fun um barbie.

Izzy

[52:15] Was fun but it wasn't like a it was very forgettable i only remember it because i keep hearing that duolipa

Stef

[52:20] Song ace ventura 2 was pretty good yeah ace ventura 2 was pretty good yeah uh perfect days is to be well i appreciate that because uh i'm i'm actually um watching uh i'm watching an old a 90s movie called High Fidelity as well.

Izzy

[52:35] Oh, Heretic was good. Glass Menagerie is good.

Stef

[52:38] Yes, but you've done auditions.

Izzy

[52:40] I did my audition. I did a monologue from Tom and then I got cast as a male character. So, I mean, I guess it works, but that's not exactly what I was going for.

Stef

[52:50] Exactly right.

Izzy

[52:51] I was just trying to show that I could act and it was the most recent thing I'd seen and then they cast me as a man.

Stef

[52:57] Has Izzy ever played The Last of Us? The first one was great, but the second game was a crap show.

Izzy

[53:01] I have not. all of my female friends love the last of us i that's kind of i don't know they like shows that i don't really like i'm sorry and they like games that i actually quite actively dislike so the fact that they like the last of us has turned me away from it i've heard it's pretty good but i heard the second got really woke and that turned me also against the first but i would definitely consider playing the first it had my one of my friends like on absolute chokehold she's like made like 10 posts on instagram this last week about the movie coming out or the show or the the part two of the series like she's obsessed with it but actually all of them are but that one especially now

Stef

[53:35] I do actually.

Izzy

[53:36] April 13th and i know this only because i keep seeing her posts about it i

Stef

[53:40] Do need a little bit of help uh from uh from the audience here so i love you however.

Izzy

[53:49] I'm not watching the minecraft movie just just let me no guys it's seriously it's like i grew i really liked minecraft growing up and i feel like they're really just butchering it with this movie and it's actually kind of like offensive right it's really offensive i really don't like it and i'm not gonna support something or watch something that's just gonna make me really sad yeah

Stef

[54:07] I um i'm a little surprised at how um trashy it.

Izzy

[54:10] Looks atrocious you can see the green screen like it's really bad the story's not even redeemable well

Stef

[54:16] And the props are terrible.

Izzy

[54:19] I'm not watching it i'm not it honestly it's just something that's going to make me really sad and i don't want to do that uh

Stef

[54:24] What is your what are your biggest dreams in life right now is he of course they may change.

Izzy

[54:28] Um finding myself a man no that's so lame consume no i'm not eating him what the heck what's your problem

Stef

[54:38] Sorry i thought you were inspired by the movie today.

Izzy

[54:39] No literally

Stef

[54:41] Uh the minecraft movie could have been great.

Izzy

[54:42] There's so much potential it's literally an open world you can do anything yeah and why is steve obese anyways sorry i'm fine you

Stef

[54:52] Know what uh steve obese sounds like an irish guy i'm a steve obese anyway oh means uh of right okay um your biggest dream so you'd like to man um i.

Izzy

[55:03] Just even if it's not like i just want like a a boyfriend that i don't dislike you

Stef

[55:07] Know yes um that's fair i think that's a good.

Izzy

[55:10] I felt bad about turning him down and we were a half hour drive from home i'm like okay yeah yeah and like yeah anyways and

Stef

[55:15] Uh uh uh social life in university.

Izzy

[55:20] Yes that's

Stef

[55:20] A thing you're looking forward to.

Izzy

[55:21] For social life not for a degree because i think university is bad at teaching don't tell that to the university that i apply to no

Stef

[55:27] No absolutely not um absolutely not and um and you passed a big hurdle we won't get into details yeah passed a big hurdle today.

Izzy

[55:35] I think i'm gonna retake yeah

Stef

[55:37] So uh university social life in university oh what do you want to study.

[55:46] Culinary Aspirations

Izzy

[55:47] I got kind of gay for that no it's I wanted to do business but honestly I feel like I already have a naturally good business like business mind if that makes sense and you're good at business so I can get advice through that and you can find so much business advice from online and for free the one thing I think that would actually really benefit me would be culinary I consider nutrition but I find that people in the nutrition like circle are really really annoying um it's just like there's so many differing opinions and like i don't i don't really care to get into it and i don't want to be surrounded by people i don't like um

Stef

[56:20] I think nutrition would be tough too because you're giving a lot of advice to people who probably wouldn't take it but.

Izzy

[56:24] Anyway yeah so i would i want to do culinary i feel like it's something that's really going to benefit me in life i enjoy cooking i have a bit of a knack for it but i don't know a lot of the rules rules i say but like i mean the you know what i mean so i feel like culinary the only problem with culinary is where am i going to meet men but we'll figure that out Straight men.

Stef

[56:42] Yeah, straight men. I mean, yeah, the stuff you make is good. It's good for sure. So, um... But you don't have dreams, like, you don't even, like, travel or things like that. I really don't. You don't care, right? I really don't care. I think we may have burned you out in travel earlier in the show when I was doing a lot of tours and stuff.

Izzy

[56:59] Maybe, but it's so lame, I know, but I'm like, I could just see it online. Like, I know that's such a lame idea, but it's just how I feel.

Stef

[57:08] Any other questions?

Izzy

[57:09] If I love traveling so much, maybe I loved that place or whatever, right? Yeah. But am I going to go on Hell's Kitchen? No, I'm not going to go on Hell's Kitchen. um i mean maybe no i don't think so because it's not like i want to be like a professional chef it's i

Stef

[57:23] Think it would be more for restaurant or cafe or.

Izzy

[57:25] Something and also just personal ability i want to be able to look at a recipe and be like i know how to make that right like i don't i mean it'd be good just cooking for family and friends and stuff like that it just makes sense i

Stef

[57:35] Think being able to i've always envied the people who just kind of know what's in the they know what's in the fridge they know what's in the the freezer they know what they have and they um they know the spices and they can just yeah assemble it in their mind to make something.

Izzy

[57:48] Good tasting that i i feel like i could do that it's something it's like at the edge oh by the way yeah those two comments i was thinking of reading them out physics minor to meet men and hang out in the world war ii museum and look confused remember i said i want to meet men i'd like

Stef

[58:02] I like World War II.

Izzy

[58:03] I don't want nerds.

Stef

[58:05] Yeah.

Izzy

[58:06] I'm sorry. I'm so picky. This is why I'm single. No, I'm kidding. That would definitely work. Physics minor, that kind of stuff. I'm definitely thinking I'll take minors in more male-dominated fields or whatever, right? But yeah, I'm sorry. World War II Museum. I've hung out with guys who are really, really passionate about a certain subject, and they just ramble and ramble and ramble and they never ask any questions and

Stef

[58:33] Like listen if you if you guys if you want to tell people about your passion if you want to tell izzy about your passion for photography she's down.

Izzy

[58:40] For that please i have trauma i have a little trauma literal trauma bro izzy

Stef

[58:45] Made the mistake of being nice to a boy at a party sorry i just left.

Izzy

[58:50] I still this was like a year ago and i'm still like i'm still burning my mind he literally wouldn't stop like my phone was Like, I feel so bad because I know I'm, like, hating on him for it. I shouldn't. But, like, he was so mean, too. Like, he was so rude.

Stef

[59:05] No, but it's important to know what an F-stop is down to the atomic levels of detail.

Izzy

[59:09] I literally don't.

Stef

[59:12] Does Izzy think that your low-protein diet is contributing to your hunger cravings, Stef?

[59:17] The Quest for Relationships

Izzy

[59:17] I don't remember hunger cravings. I have no idea. Sure.

Stef

[59:20] Is Izzy also thinking of cooking for large numbers of people?

Izzy

[59:22] I don't know. If I can cook, I'm going to cook.

Stef

[59:24] Right. uh it is it's a very satisfying feeling making food for others you should definitely host dinners when you go to study it's a great way to meet men valid.

Izzy

[59:32] Valid see and those are men that would have a bit of a passion for food be a little eccentric but not gay

Stef

[59:37] Uh you know what they say you've heard this i'm sure uh the the way to a man's heart is through his stomach yeah um that's.

Izzy

[59:45] When you can

Stef

[59:45] I'm gonna skip over that question do philosophers.

Izzy

[59:48] Count as nerds honestly that's that's nerdier than like world war two at least world war truth about like fighting and doing manly

Stef

[59:57] Stuff i have debates i have debates and sometimes they're quite tricky i probably shouldn't use that voice should i and i must talk i.

Izzy

[1:00:09] Argue with people 15 000 miles away

Stef

[1:00:12] You wouldn't believe how tough i am when they're 15 000 miles away it's amazing yeah amazing, Are you a photo lens because you walking away from me broke my heart? Wait, come back. What does that mean?

Izzy

[1:00:27] Please allow. Is that like an anti-pickup line? Is that me making fun of the mean guy?

Stef

[1:00:35] Lovely. Izzy has her X dotted down.

Izzy

[1:00:40] Yeah. No, look, I'm not saying don't. Look, if a guy wants to mansplain Rome, like the Roman Empire, you know what? Go for it.

[1:00:46] The Challenge of Connection

Izzy

[1:00:47] I'm just saying guys who make it their whole personality. is like my problem because i know if you got or i've known a few guys like that and it's it's i find it personally it's my personal thing i don't like it but if you're if you're passionate about like the roman empire or world war 2 or photography go for it but like if you're gonna yap about it for a while then ask me some questions afterwards about my stuff and show an interest in my interest the same way i show interest in your interest because otherwise it's really one-sided and you don't like me for who i am you just like the listener the audience like the audience and i've known like three guys like this and honestly i think they're all kind of the same no there's another interest for all different this

Stef

[1:01:23] Is a tip if you meet is he down the road ask her for her interest in obscure anime and you're set.

Izzy

[1:01:28] Okay no that's not to say i've literally never watched an anime no

Stef

[1:01:33] No but there's a joke based upon the conversation do you.

Izzy

[1:01:35] Remember the other guy another guy oh gosh all right but yeah that's that's sorry that was my yapping tell me about your icks now too guys sorry i'm kidding do

Stef

[1:01:45] You find it hard sorry go ahead.

Izzy

[1:01:46] No you got i'm i'm Do

Stef

[1:01:47] You find it hard to relate to the men around you your age since you are quite mature for your age or rather others lack maturity for their.

Izzy

[1:01:53] Age? I would definitely say others lack maturity. I've said this before, but I don't think the men in my friend group with the exception of one, I don't think they've matured since I met them three and a half years ago. And like, yeah, I honestly, it's kind of, it's, it's kind of sad.

Stef

[1:02:10] So the growth was like, beep, beep, beep, beep. And then the guys were like, stop. And kind of Izzy just, I think, kept going.

Izzy

[1:02:15] They're still the same. I mean, they honestly, like nothing really changed. Um, they're still gaming. And this one guy got a job and the one thing he said, he's like, no more gaming. And he was really sad. I'm like, no, that's good. I literally said, no, that's good. And like, when they're, when we're at dances, they never ask any girls to dance. and I'm wondering like, go ask someone to dance. What are you doing? And they're like, well, I don't really like any of the girls here. So what? Just get over your fear of rejection. Ask someone to dance. You know what? I find it really awkward to make conversation when I'm dancing with someone. Usually there's a few exceptions, but I'm still going to say yes because I know it's something I have to get over. And like, unless the guy's like really...

Stef

[1:02:51] You got to learn how to do those conversations while you're dancing and things like that, right?

Izzy

[1:02:55] I'm still like, I'm just saying like, it's just the experience that you need sometimes. It's good for your personal development. Anyways, I'm fine.

Stef

[1:03:04] Do you like to drive?

Izzy

[1:03:05] I'm sorry. I know I was hating on people for not driving earlier in the show. I was actually ranting about none of my friends who are old, like 17, 18. None of them can drive. But I haven't started yet. I was literally going to study after doing this.

Stef

[1:03:18] But you had a big, we won't get into details. You had a big study thing. Yeah, she had a huge take that you studied for two months.

Izzy

[1:03:26] Well, it was going to be two months, but I got sick with the flu and medical. And then I had pink eye and I was out. That flu took me out for two weeks. And then mom drugged me, gave me medicine that made me sick. So it was a mess. I couldn't, honestly, I couldn't study for like two weeks. I had nothing going on. I think you walked and I was like staring at the wall. My brain was not functioning. So it should have been two months. It was like a month-ish.

Stef

[1:03:47] And then you had a pretty bad cold during the test. And then there were interruptions. And we don't have to get into details. But yeah, so I think you did very well.

Izzy

[1:03:54] Um but yeah anyways i'm gonna work on the driving next i'm fresh 16 and in canada you have to be 16 before you can even start yeah but i should have it in nine to ten months hopefully i'm

Stef

[1:04:05] Well you'll be able to drive probably sooner than that but um there's a whole graduated driving thing yeah.

Izzy

[1:04:11] Well i know how to i'm look i know the basics of driving i'll study a bit for the test but i honestly think i mean i know a lot of friends who've passed it who don't pass other stuff so well

Stef

[1:04:19] I would say also just tell them about your work with the trials of the um the motorcycle game.

Izzy

[1:04:24] I'm sure they'll want to raise a motorcycle very

Stef

[1:04:26] Very helpful all right anyways um.

Izzy

[1:04:28] Why are young zoomers so obsessed with fanaf videos and other similar games five

Stef

[1:04:33] Nights of freddy oh i got that one i'm so young i'm so young okay sorry go ahead i'm not so yeah oh sorry a little oily there.

Izzy

[1:04:41] Oil um i've

Stef

[1:04:45] Got a bunch of.

Izzy

[1:04:46] There's definitely some that are obsessed i had my face when i was younger i really liked uh five nights at freddy's and stuff it's gotten pretty bad honestly since the movies came out i i'm just hating movies like this i'm sorry but since the movies the movie singular came out um i think it's gotten a little more cringe it's gotten a little more mainstream um and not mainstream and like it's mainstream and alternative media but not necessarily media media anyways it's just getting the wrong kind of fan base around it in my opinion but why are we kind of obsessed with it it's like fantasy worlds when you were a kid you probably absolutely loved books or movies or tv shows and for us this generation it's more video games instead of stuff like that so it's just a different a different form of media um i know i can't honestly think of names but i i think of older stories from the past or whatever people

Stef

[1:05:33] Were just big when i was a.

Izzy

[1:05:35] Kid people were just obsessed with other stuff now it just happens to be video games for just this generation. I can't talk.

Stef

[1:05:42] Uh, 30 is the new 20. Men take a little longer to mature these days, but, but, but it shouldn't be stalled. Right?

Izzy

[1:05:50] Yeah, they're, they're stalled. They almost think, I don't think they've changed since 13, 14.

Stef

[1:05:55] Right.

Izzy

[1:05:55] Sadly.

Stef

[1:05:57] More questions. This isn't even a request.

Izzy

[1:06:02] You type like a Gen Z.

Stef

[1:06:03] It is an absolute demand.

Izzy

[1:06:05] In a polite way.

Stef

[1:06:06] Um, it's so weird. Some people just don't change. you can see them five years later and nothing about their personality has changed yeah.

Izzy

[1:06:13] Genuinely i was so happy when one of them finally got a job but that's like one out of five

Stef

[1:06:19] What car will is he.

Izzy

[1:06:20] Get what

Stef

[1:06:21] Would you like.

Izzy

[1:06:22] I mean what would i like rocket league what will i get realistically secondhand from like one of those slimy looking like yo yeah this it's functioning fine man i

Stef

[1:06:33] Got a car inside my van man real estate.

Izzy

[1:06:36] Um but like yeah um i'm probably i'm saving up when i with work and all that but

Stef

[1:06:44] Would you like a convertible or would you like uh.

Izzy

[1:06:47] A sedan i love like cool cars i honestly i don't really care what the car is i just want it to be bright colored i may paint it myself however

Stef

[1:06:55] You use nail polish to keep the scarring.

Izzy

[1:06:58] Amount amount of price in the car but i love brightly colored cars when i see something neon i get excited we saw okay look i don't like cyber trucks but we saw like a neon green and a neon pink and then like a dark teal but that it makes me excited i don't know why it's like when you realize your avatar is customizable when you realize your car is customizable i want to paint it and i want it to be like a neon pink or neon orange or neon yellow or a line green like just something fun you know and

Stef

[1:07:24] You want you want people to know like from the horizon that you're coming like where you are at any moment.

Izzy

[1:07:29] I want to make a statement yeah there's this one car in our like town neighborhood area i've seen it for like literally five or no probably eight or nine years actually i don't know why i'm underestimating that so much it's like a shiny glittery purple car and it's we see it like maybe once a year just we drive past and it's so funny my mom and i was like that's the car that's the car ghost

Stef

[1:07:51] Car uh will you learn to drive stick shift.

Izzy

[1:07:55] I actually don't care i have no idea i'm gonna learn to drive with whatever we have i don't think we have stick shift sorry i'm just yapping sorry

Stef

[1:08:04] Would you would you like to read the next one is he.

Izzy

[1:08:06] Do you appreciate how awesome and influential your dad is and how lucky you are to have him and not the average one like most people get uh sometimes that was so mean we

Stef

[1:08:19] Are in the phase of extreme praise from the teenagers.

Izzy

[1:08:21] Yeah no you're pretty solid i'm pretty solid that's the that's the teenage way of compliment yeah you

Stef

[1:08:28] Don't don't aim for more.

Izzy

[1:08:29] You'll fall over yeah

Stef

[1:08:30] I'm a car guy who hates driving a lot of people my age and younger seem to struggle with it I like driving. I like driving. Is he like Shakespeare?

Izzy

[1:08:43] He's gay as heck man it's

Stef

[1:08:46] Fairly fruity poetry.

Izzy

[1:08:47] I'm sorry i don't really like poetry i think i like poetry and music and stuff but speaking like a gay man it's just not for me i'm sorry i know i'm gonna offend so many people i'm probably offending you right now but it's just it's honestly just not for me i don't like the stories i don't particularly like the language i'm not a fan which is really sad because i'm actually i'm doing another like mock trial thing i'm gonna be an attorney hopefully um and uh it's literally about like a shakespeare thing assault and battery to do regarding like shakespeare play i'm

Stef

[1:09:17] Not sure what this is referring to interesting i think kids just want to see their favorite streamer play those types.

Izzy

[1:09:23] That was really my response to the five nights at freddy thing okay

Stef

[1:09:26] Oh because five nights at freddy was a big reaction game right because the.

Izzy

[1:09:29] People everyone was playing like markiplier oh my gosh i had my markiplier face Oh,

Stef

[1:09:33] Yeah. Have you read Jane Austen? Actually, we were reading Jane Austen, and then we switched to The Fountainhead.

Izzy

[1:09:39] I can't comprehend. Okay, Jane Austen keeps showing up in my English texts. Everything is like, the expert from Jane Austen novel X, Y, and Z. Best described the statement of the past. Stop it! Everything is Jane Austen! Yep. I don't dislike her, but it's like, she just happens to correlate with something negative for me, which is schoolwork, so I kind of have to hate her. Like, sorry.

Stef

[1:09:59] Yeah, we read Pride and Prejudice some years ago.

Izzy

[1:10:01] Didn't we watch?

Stef

[1:10:02] I don't remember reading it. We watched it too.

Izzy

[1:10:05] Oh, I'm sorry. I'm just defending so many people. Everyone likes Jane Austen.

[1:10:09] Subjective Morality Debate

Stef

[1:10:10] A friend thinks morality is subjective because it was invented by humans via religion and churches. Is there anything to this type of thinking?

Izzy

[1:10:17] I don't know. I don't do that morality stuff.

[1:10:20] Disney Fairy Tales Reimagined

Stef

[1:10:20] What fairy tale would you like to see Disney produce?

Izzy

[1:10:25] How about their own original story that's actually good?

Stef

[1:10:31] Yep. Get Izzy a Chevy truck that's jacked up above everyone else on the road. No, here's one thing. With lights on the bottom.

Izzy

[1:10:37] You guys are not buying me a car. I want to support myself as much as possible. So I'm saving up. I actually think I have enough for a secondhand car right now. It depends what it's going to be when I actually buy a car. I'm not going to learn to drive in a secondhand car because I would like to make it past the age of 16. but i will you know try and afford that and then leftover go towards rent as much as possible and like yeah no

Stef

[1:10:57] No you want to make it on your own right and i've i've i've proselytized to izzy the glories of being broke.

Izzy

[1:11:02] Which was i think it'd be so fun yeah

Stef

[1:11:04] Which for most of.

[1:11:04] Youth Business Ideas

Izzy

[1:11:05] My youth business idea when i'm at university because everyone there is like you know it's all well and great for the first half of the semester until you'll run out of meal plan so i'm gonna buy meals in bulk because i think this is something i would be good at that a lot of other people young people teenagers will not be good at i will buy like rice and veggies and stuff in bulk frozen as cheap as possible and then make them like single meal things like big hearty meals and then sell them for a cheap price on campus but just enough to make money because a lot of people are not going to be buying in bulk and making food we read books we've actually we've read some silly books about this uh or not about this but where it's a thing it's like people will are not but women in college you ever buy like granola bars and cereal and then they complain why they're broke you're not buying rice in bulk you're not buying pasta in bulk you're not buying canned stuff dented cans of tuna like all the stuff to save money so i'm saying i can make meals and sell them on campus and that would be such a good way to make money yeah even if it's like a very small profit margin there's going to be enough starving kids who don't understand how to save money with food and especially if i say i'm a culinary student right smart money this is why i don't eat business so

Stef

[1:12:12] You'll be selling bulk food literally in bulk for two bulky people Lucy did you learn Greek no Danish.

[1:12:19] Thoughts on The Fountainhead

Izzy

[1:12:19] I need to learn language I actually need to learn a language it's not even funny at this point

Stef

[1:12:24] How are you, How are you finding The Fountainhead?

Izzy

[1:12:28] I like it, but I don't exactly get why it's about architecture.

Stef

[1:12:32] It's your question. Why is she writing about architecture?

Izzy

[1:12:34] I'm like, you know, it's cool. I'm not saying it's bad. In fact, it's like more unique than other stuff. It's not another romance,

Stef

[1:12:41] But like, I think. No, it's definitely not a romance.

Izzy

[1:12:44] No, I'm saying like, it's not just another one of those books. It's very unique and I like it. And it's, I love Bioshock, so I have to love Ayn Rand. I mean, you know, it's not really a choice at this point. Right. But. i definitely think it's interesting um i can't say i love it i definitely don't dislike it it's not like one of those books but it's it's thought-provoking and that gives me i have a lot of respect for it that way because it's not just another like another story it's

Stef

[1:13:11] There's nothing else like it.

Izzy

[1:13:12] That's what i mean it's really unique and that's what i like so i don't particularly care about architecture personally me

Stef

[1:13:18] Either by the.

[1:13:18] Architecture and Passion

Izzy

[1:13:19] Way i think it's like i don't when i see an ugly house like that's mad ugly and then i move on or i might say wow i wish they built stuff pretty like they used to yeah and then i move on yeah but i like that she was so passionate about it and just went to go and create it and i respect that and

Stef

[1:13:34] Worked in an architect's office for like five years to make sure it was accurate.

Izzy

[1:13:37] Yeah um

Stef

[1:13:38] Remember chickpeas and lentils is.

Izzy

[1:13:40] That a band yeah it's fine sorry it hurts probably don't know it because it's one veggie source of protein you wouldn't understand um i

Stef

[1:13:51] Would if i had more protein.

[1:13:51] Bulk Food and Budgeting

Izzy

[1:13:52] That's what i mean yeah yeah um but uh yes definitely buy chickpeas and lentils in bulk that's definitely gonna work cheap chickpeas are getting more expensive because they're becoming more mainstream but yeah lentils for sure uh

Stef

[1:14:05] Buying a good secondhand car as a first car is a good idea because most people ding and scratch it parking in the early.

Izzy

[1:14:10] Days i'm going to be so good and

Stef

[1:14:12] Better not do that with a new car yeah that's true i remember right after i bought my 98 volvo s70 which is my first name of the red car um somebody you had the beehive because it had a five-cylinder engine that sounded like.

Izzy

[1:14:22] Um and

Stef

[1:14:27] Uh yeah somebody uh first or second week i got it somebody opened the door and left a dent in like into it left a dent in it.

Izzy

[1:14:33] You

Stef

[1:14:35] Have a beautiful temple thank you.

Izzy

[1:14:37] I think he means thank you for the little peak of my forehead uh

Stef

[1:14:40] Stef do you have a letterboxed account you have any idea what that is.

Izzy

[1:14:46] I don't think so i don't know exactly i've heard the name right

Stef

[1:14:50] Uh you are killing it with the dips tips today dylan good work mate thank you tips of course are very very much welcome freedom main.com slash donate, uh him uh izzy you said you disliked some of the books assigned in your english course do you do you have the option of self-studying and taking a collegiate level test in the u.s we have clep and exams available to get credit i've.

Izzy

[1:15:15] Literally never heard of those um i actually just recently took tests that would get me scores i can get me into like the colleges and stuff i'm looking for so i'm probably not going to put myself through that again unless i want ego bragging rights and just want to get better scores which is something i'm considering probably not this may or like not this spring i think

Stef

[1:15:33] The more tests the better i took voluntary tests you just want to get good at.

Izzy

[1:15:36] Tests yeah so i definitely want to practice that i might consider it um i will definitely look into that though thank you i've actually never heard of it but yes i do dislike some of the books because it's like i don't i literally it's cultures i don't care about people i don't like so yeah

Stef

[1:15:49] Cleppence sounds like you're having a stroke all right yeah why are you on a low protein diet why have you got me on a low protein diet.

Izzy

[1:15:55] I literally make you your only source of protein every day, which is a yogurt bowl.

Stef

[1:16:00] And sometimes sandwiches.

Izzy

[1:16:02] It's not really that much protein.

Stef

[1:16:04] Okay. And the yogurt, it's just the yogurt. There's no protein in fruit, right? No. Okay.

Izzy

[1:16:09] I think a banana has like half a gram of protein.

Stef

[1:16:11] So 600, but okay. Letterboxd is a website. You can track what movies you watch and discover new stuff. Oh, thanks. Do you like writing stories or writing in other form? Okay. This is about me. Just kidding. Sorry. Go ahead. Step in. Go ahead.

Izzy

[1:16:24] Yeah, I do. I think it's a lot of fun. I struggle sometimes. I'll make it halfway through a story and be like plot it's not working um even if i think it out very well i usually have like a scene at the end and then i build from that and then stuff just lies in the middle i'm getting over it but yeah i do enjoy coming up with stories i've been really busy recently so i haven't done anything in the last like month or so but it's uh yeah

Stef

[1:16:46] Next week i'm starting on the new book uh just for.

Izzy

[1:16:49] Myself no i'm kidding i'm kidding yeah

Stef

[1:16:50] Yeah uh all right did i miss anything here, More.

Izzy

[1:17:02] You hit like one correct letter there.

Stef

[1:17:06] More. We'll just give people a chance to type.

Izzy

[1:17:09] I'm dyslexic. I thought you said moo.

Stef

[1:17:10] Moo.

Izzy

[1:17:11] I'm moo again.

[1:17:19] New Music Suggestions

Stef

[1:17:19] Is there any new music that you would like to share with our lovely audience?

Izzy

[1:17:24] No.

Stef

[1:17:25] Take your time why would i mull it over why would i dig deep do you want me to leave the room and you can tell them no.

Izzy

[1:17:32] Why would i

Stef

[1:17:32] Okay share music that you like bands that you like no anything new.

Izzy

[1:17:37] No one else likes it so i don't like sharing it

Stef

[1:17:39] Right yeah uh the fountainhead is her first round work yes uh Stef do you still have your master's thesis and short novel public lives available to read. Also, it's a show on the jealous war still in the works. That's a novel I wrote when I was like 20. I think it's at my mother's place, so it's effectively vanished to time. Master's thesis, I could put it back up. Short novel, Public Lives, I could probably take that up.

[1:18:05] Academic Challenges and Theses

Izzy

[1:18:05] What was your master's thesis about?

Stef

[1:18:08] So my master's thesis was about that there's sort of two ways of looking at the world, and it's basically Plato versus Aristotle. So Aristotle says we get our ideas about things or concepts about things by repeated exposure to them right you see this used as a cup it's called a cup you drink from it so you know what a cup is plato says what before we're born perfect cup yeah before we're born this is an ideal cup that embeds itself in our brain and then we see a distant echo of it and blah blah blah right.

Izzy

[1:18:36] What a yapper

Stef

[1:18:37] Yeah so um, So my argument was, if you believe that our concepts come in through the senses, then everybody can comprehend reality. So you can end up with a small government and a democracy, a limited government and democracy. But if reality is something out there that only the elite can grasp and most people can't, then you have to have a dictatorship to run society. And so I divided the history of philosophy into three major philosophers on each side. And I tested the thesis by saying, well, if you're into this higher reality stuff, do you advocate for dictatorship? And every single one of them did. And if you're into the evidence of the census stuff, you want a small limited government and a free market. And every single one of them did.

Izzy

[1:19:22] Whoa, that would have got you kicked out of college nowadays.

Stef

[1:19:23] Wow, it took me a huge amount of time. I graduated months after everyone else because they were arguing so ferociously over my thesis. It was brutal. Oh, it was brutal. I didn't think I was going to graduate at all for my graduate degree.

Izzy

[1:19:35] I would not have liked that. I'm not that moral.

Stef

[1:19:36] Oof.

Izzy

[1:19:36] I'd be like, I love diversity. Let's go gay people. I'm coming out as bisexual.

[1:19:41] Graduate School Experiences

Stef

[1:19:42] No, they couldn't. I remember that it was a guy and there were other people involved and they just, it was too audacious because you're supposed to study some tiny thing. There was a, there was a woman in my graduate program. She was studying the population of sheep over 75 year period in a small province in medieval France.

Izzy

[1:19:59] Why does that freaking matter?

Stef

[1:20:00] No, no, she was an expert in that subject. Nobody could debate with her because nobody cared. So I, because I had such a big thesis that had such huge ramifications, uh, they just couldn't believe that I could do it. They couldn't believe I'd pulled it off. And eventually I got an A, but oh my God, it was a battle.

Izzy

[1:20:15] That is so funny though.

Stef

[1:20:17] Uh did you ever watch fantastic planet why.

Izzy

[1:20:22] Does it sound like a dinosaur movie

Stef

[1:20:24] Is that a sci-fi or a documentary i don't.

Izzy

[1:20:27] Actually know i have not watched it

Stef

[1:20:28] What do you think of alcohol izzy do you think when you're older you will drink it rarely socially or not at all i.

Izzy

[1:20:35] Mean i'm planning to become an alcoholic so i love it

Stef

[1:20:37] Everybody's got a plan goals aspirations.

Izzy

[1:20:40] Um i mean i think it's kind of mad i did go to a party with a lot of drunk people i was like in around i saw it and like they're kind of they're really funny

Stef

[1:20:51] Honestly the disinhibition disinhibition was cool.

[1:20:53] Alcohol and Socialization

Izzy

[1:20:54] People it's so funny i'm sober as a judge falls over like it's so funny but uh no i don't really think i'll drink it i'll drink much i probably say that i'll probably end up drunk but like i don't think i'll drink much

Stef

[1:21:05] It's one of that's another big thing but like beer right just getting drunk is i never found it fun all right um i've been listening more to a band called lawrence it's a brother and sister and a bunch of their friends that's nice cool dang i don't have wi-fi right now i'm sad i can't see easy answer questions live question how are you typing what's your general mood like oh he's on a cell phone so he can't he's probably on a limited data plan oh what's your general mood like every day or night given how different the world's non-thinkers think that's your you annoyed yeah no.

Izzy

[1:21:40] I'm getting full of hatred and rage depressed, emo goth anyways, that's my edgy teenager I don't know it's different day to day

Stef

[1:21:54] I mean, you went to the mall with a friend the other day. You guys had a lot of fun, right? Yeah. You picked out outfits for each other. Things that men have never done in the history of the universe. She was so mean.

Izzy

[1:22:03] She did me so dirty. She gave me like the ugly, she got me a double extra large jacket. So like this absolutely like double extra small crop top and shorts. So I have like the little, the tiniest clothes on and then like this double extra large jacket and like a sparkly hat. And I gave her like a cool, like red motorcycle style outfit. like one of those like 1990s cool girls in the movie yeah yeah and she ate that up and then i walked out of the closet she just started laughing it was so mean that's

Stef

[1:22:34] Your picture no.

Izzy

[1:22:34] But it was like a motorcycle we both went for motorcycle like you're completely unplanned we both went for like motorcycle cowboy kind of style like that that vibe i don't understand it was so funny but like i get i got the vision but she it did not it did not pull off it did not pull off so

Stef

[1:22:50] You you got her into a nice outfit and she put you into homeless.

Izzy

[1:22:54] See it could have worked yeah because like it was okay the shorts were great they fit great and uh like nothing i would actually wear out because my butt was hanging out i don't really wear that kind of skimpy stuff but like the shorts fit great and it was like a crop top with like little dangly gems and stuff it was really cool that fit great and it looked great together but the jacket and the hat and the belt literally just ruined it it was so funny and then the next thing happened we did another one i got a good outfit i gave her a really bad one just

Stef

[1:23:23] It's fascinating for me as a man to see girly world in action and just how different it is in some ways.

[1:23:28] Fashion Choices and Trends

Izzy

[1:23:29] It was so funny uh

Stef

[1:23:30] Beatles are the rolling stones you don't particularly care for either right yeah yeah yeah uh what's your favorite desert uh sahara.

Izzy

[1:23:37] I hate all of

Stef

[1:23:39] Them what is your favorite dessert mcdonald's.

Izzy

[1:23:41] Soft you

Stef

[1:23:42] Are a mcdonald's soft.

Izzy

[1:23:44] Person i am such a cheap person people are gonna be tiramisu Creme brulee. Nah. Chemicals. Guys, if coffee doesn't do anything for me, if you have too much coffee to make you feel drunk, I'm sorry.

Stef

[1:23:57] You don't even get affected by it.

Izzy

[1:23:59] I worked in a cafe. I had like two espressos. So I mean like, oh my gosh, I clearly didn't. I don't even have the vocabulary down. I have like multiple double espressos a day. Iced Americanos. I love that. It was a bit of vanilla. Oh, it was so good. But I'd have so much of that stuff. It didn't do anything. Literally zero effect. I don't know.

Stef

[1:24:17] Uh yes we got your answer oh well he's not gonna hear the answer um did you ever find did you ever do you do you ever find it difficult to bond with other young women when you have unique ideas.

[1:24:29] Cultural Disconnect in Media

Izzy

[1:24:30] Yeah it's not so much unique ideas and stuff it's just like i feel like they're very rudimentary in their thoughts and what they say and it can be very hard to not look at them and like what are you like what are you doing well i feel like that comes and then i feel like i'm being really egotistic or smug like oh you're not smart i don't mean it like that it's just genuinely they'll they'll say stuff or they'll be into stuff and it's like how do you like that like and i'll make an example with the last of us she absolutely loves it and it's like but but but but why and it's not just her like i know probably six girls who are really into like that or another show like that and it's like or tay tay or tay tay or whatever but it's like it's really woke and i don't mind some woke stuff but like half the characters are like gay and it's like major plot points and i just don't find that interesting to watch because i just feel like i'm getting propaganda shoved down my throat oh

Stef

[1:25:21] Gay is not a character.

Izzy

[1:25:22] Right it's not a character they just make the entire i like okay you know what if you're gonna make it be a gay character have it serve the plot yeah like in the in mean girls when there was the gay black guy i didn't mind that because it served the plot it made sense yeah it did or the other gay girl or whatever right it made sense i don't really care but if they're just gay for the fun of it then like why what's the point have everything serve the plot and I think it's just it's not just the last of us you know what like your TV shows if you can get over the gay stuff good for you because that opens up a whole lot more shows for you to watch but it's just they say stuff and do stuff and it's like everyone says that everyone does that why like just be unique and there's this one girl she's definitely a lot more unique and we're probably we're getting to be pretty good friends i think um but no the most of the girls in the friend group are just like i find them a little they're a little too generic well

Stef

[1:26:09] And they wouldn't do much.

Izzy

[1:26:10] Such a pick me yeah but like we will be at like park days and hanging out and out places and they just sit there they don't go on roller coasters at theme parks they

Stef

[1:26:17] Don't get buried in the sand on beach day yeah.

Izzy

[1:26:19] And i remember we used to have like park days pretty often and go out and play it'll just sit on the bench under the pergola and they wouldn't even be talking that much and it's like i'm not going to do that so i would go out and play whatever with the guys because at least they're up moving and laughing and having fun if they were laughing and sitting on the bench joking talking sharing memes and stuff i don't care whatever you want then that would be fun but they're not doing anything they're sitting there barely talking yeah and it's like how are y'all besties like you're barely even talking right

Stef

[1:26:47] Right uh has izzy ever had to deal with boomer entitlement at her job well because technically well me no just kidding have a boomer entitlement at her job i just got off a shift from senior stay and holy crap it's like a bunch of daughters.

Izzy

[1:27:02] Yeah these people like these two people would come and pick me up and they would be like oh can i can i get this ice cream but i don't want that what

Stef

[1:27:11] Do you mean come and pick you up you oh oh oh you're talking about mom.

Izzy

[1:27:15] And me yeah no i'm kidding um no i didn't really have boomer entitlement i just had really really really stupid customers co-workers and bosses um so i don't mean to like i hate to be it's such a stereotype to like hate your boss i hated she like we hated each other she was that

Stef

[1:27:36] Was passionate man being rude.

Izzy

[1:27:37] She was like honestly a horrible person um that's not just me saying it you guys know what happened And they were honestly just horrible people. Guys, working with women is not it. None of this would have happened in a male environment. Genuinely, it's not it. i i'm like a woman hater and i'm a woman i'm like a misogynistic give myself well so

Stef

[1:27:58] There's there's an old comedian who says um i don't know how good women are but i do know that women know women the best and women hate women so it's a joke right.

Izzy

[1:28:07] Go be gay honestly probably safer but like no

Stef

[1:28:11] Not my audience have.

Izzy

[1:28:13] Kids um no but i have it's really like they were some really really horrible people and they were really mean to me.

Stef

[1:28:21] And the other females didn't stick up?

Izzy

[1:28:24] No, there was like some 40-year-old who had a kid and everything too. And afterwards, she's like, I actually thought the same thing. And I'm like, well, why didn't you say it to the manager? Because it made me look like I... Anyway, she...

Stef

[1:28:34] Because you were like 15 at that point.

Izzy

[1:28:36] I was 15. Yeah. And it was my first job. And all these people had worked there for years and they were all in their 20s and 30s. Yeah. And whenever there was a problem, they basically all picked on me. The manager always picked on me. And this was not a problem when the manager wasn't around but when she came back it that was immediately when it all started going downhill in fact i was like everyone loved me remember people the boss would say to you oh she's the best worker yeah and loved you this one girl said oh you're better than people you've had for seven years and stuff like that like i was passionate i put my

Stef

[1:29:04] All into that job yeah you really.

Izzy

[1:29:06] Cared i cared too much people would tell me it doesn't have to be that clean yes it does um but yeah i took i spent more time cleaning than everyone else like i honestly i really cared and i really wanted to get everything right but it was this this one manager and she'd give me contradictory instructions and she was rude and then she'd tell me stuff and again this was the other thing she wouldn't stand up for me my co-worker the manager told me something i just think she's like that's not gluten-free yeah and it was a whole mess about i contaminated the pastries and stuff and then after the moment she left this other co-worker was like no she told us they were gluten-free yeah yeah and i'm like why didn't you say anything oh

Stef

[1:29:42] My gosh i'm afraid It is he has inherited a bit of the Molyneux blessing and curse of people either liking us or not liking us. Nothing really in the middle.

[1:29:49] Experiences with Workplaces

Izzy

[1:29:49] It's the person in power who really doesn't like me.

Stef

[1:29:51] I've been there too. Oh my gosh.

Izzy

[1:29:53] Uh but yeah it feels like when i saw these memes about hitting your boss or whatever i'm like oh it's not that bad yeah and i didn't think so for the first bit yes she was really incompetent but she was a nice person but the manager oh my gosh almond

Stef

[1:30:06] Milk or oat milk i don't even know what i love.

Izzy

[1:30:07] Almond milk i don't like oat milk period i just love almond milk i will just chug almond milk it's so good your

Stef

[1:30:13] Desire to um injure me when i ask for oaty oats it's an oat bar it shocks me how much women worship taylor swift that's true um.

Izzy

[1:30:25] Only whole milk oh

Stef

[1:30:26] I'm so you know you know is he being a gigantic chad she only drinks whole milk full protein.

Izzy

[1:30:31] I don't actually oh

Stef

[1:30:33] Because you're exploring the land of mom's lactose intolerant oh no the.

Izzy

[1:30:38] Horror yogurt you know even the lactose free yogurt does something to me it's like not good so i'm gonna have to get coconut yogurt she's

Stef

[1:30:43] Actually getting attacked by cows.

Izzy

[1:30:45] It's so bad no it's it was it's bad it's really developed in the last like two months yeah and i'm kind of i'm kind of like intolerant even still i haven't drank milk in like three years four years maybe i just i'll have like a little sip but i don't like milk i like almond milk i honestly personal preference i just really like the taste i don't drink whole milk i'm sorry guys uh

Stef

[1:31:03] What's your take on the purpose of stories in games movies books etc.

Izzy

[1:31:06] I honestly don't really think about that stuff just entertain

Stef

[1:31:09] I think i just enjoy it to entertain and instruct.

Izzy

[1:31:11] In the olden in the good old days in the olden days whatever um in the past i feel like they were there more to tell stories and service warnings but nowadays they're just there to make money right

Stef

[1:31:20] Stef what beer do you like i like pilsner urquil i drink.

Izzy

[1:31:25] Oh what a pretentious one

Stef

[1:31:26] Once in a while nice after a hot day.

Izzy

[1:31:28] I'm kidding i'm i'm just

Stef

[1:31:29] So i do like the taste of beer particularly if i've been doing some sort of manual labor in the hot sun and honestly just a delightest beer that a de-alcoholized beer uh is fine nickelope ultra is fine um and i actually there was indian beer called kingfisher that i quite liked and a japanese beer that i can't quite remember what it was called but it was also very good.

Izzy

[1:31:51] Um so the guy who quoted me and said go be gay number one you missed the whole sentiment you're like the media cnn i said go be gay because it's safer and out of everything i said over the last hour and a half that's what you quote oh

Stef

[1:32:03] Welcome to people's selective interpretation right he's just kidding right uh when going through interviews it's so important to like the boss team but you couldn't you.

Izzy

[1:32:11] Couldn't meet her was away for the first two months i was working there she was out on vacation which didn't make any sense because that's when the business was changing owners so that's kind of when the manager should be there but yeah that just tells you who she is she wanted to go to europe europe um yeah i definitely i didn't exactly love the boss but she was she was nice enough and i was really desperate to have a job so i was like you know in this economy man i could not get a job i'm applying everywhere i have a good resume i it's just struggle um

Stef

[1:32:40] If the manager is good your team will be good true i really like the lady that interviewed me at my current job and the entire team is lovely a good boss hires efficient colleagues that.

Izzy

[1:32:47] Is so true i was actually i was at a account not a cafe i was at panera bread you know what i'm gonna say i love panera bread panera bread is like i worship panera bread i would go to every sunday church every sunday if they talked about panera bread um i really like panera bread i don't like you know i like being able to customize my order they probably the employees probably hate me for it so i like the self-serve kiosk and it tastes good and you know i

Stef

[1:33:07] Actually have seen people write novels in less time and touch and clicks than you uh customizing one of your orders.

Izzy

[1:33:13] Anyways um i really like panera bread and i saw the manager meeting with someone it wasn't an interview they were like discussing stuff yeah this panera bread this one location near us is like the rudest freaking workers ever this

Stef

[1:33:27] One here yeah this one.

[1:33:27] Customer Service and Expectations

Izzy

[1:33:28] And the manager she was rude i saw her talking she didn't smile she had one of those frown faces it's just we happen to be sitting like not across from each other but the side you know those benches i was in the inside they were like on the other side of it i heard a lot of what they're saying she was just a rude person she just did not sound nice she didn't laugh once like that whole thing during the meeting um and she had a little manager thing you can tell and all the people that are rude they will mess up my order every single time they don't give me the drink cup it's not self-serve where we're at and they get the wrong soup usually I like chicken and wild rice that's so good but they always give me chicken noodle and if I ever order a pastry they forget it they will always give me chips instead of baguette like they literally get everything wrong and I get there I take it I look at it I hand it back I'm like guys I'm so sorry I don't mean to be annoying but I'm pretty sure order chicken and wild rice I'm like I'm super nice about it you hear me I'm very nice about it and they just like oh and they take it and they don't like say sorry or anything i could never as a worker oh my gosh when i screwed up someone's order i was like i'm so sorry i'm really sorry i'll make sure it doesn't happen again i'll get that out for you right away i was so i felt so bad that

Stef

[1:34:29] British hyper conscience.

Izzy

[1:34:30] Right no so the manager's rude and all the workers are rude and when we go to other paneras very nice people if they ever mess up the order they're like oh i'm so sorry about that i'll fix that for you right away my apologies and they'll usually give you a free apple or something like that right yeah anyways that was a lot of yap but yeah if the manager's rude the workers are going to be rude that that's exactly i agree i agree saporo

Stef

[1:34:49] Yes that's the japanese beer thank you um what do you think is your generation's biggest challenge or challenge.

Izzy

[1:34:57] Talking to talking to like getting talking to people so anti-social so anti-social oh my gosh so anti-social uh

Stef

[1:35:07] Stef do you see they're offering loans for people to buy lunch uh that's true now you can buy lunch and you can pay in four easy payments over four weeks it's crazy crazy.

Izzy

[1:35:16] Buy in bulk anyway uh

Stef

[1:35:20] What does izzy think of physical media collectors i think it's silly what does he get the ick if she saw a bunch of movies on a wall shelf like you know the the dvds or like you buy physical copies of the.

Izzy

[1:35:30] Movies i would have zero problem with that i think that's actually kind of cool um it's analog you love analog no the only reason i'm getting nick is if the guy who had it wouldn't shut up about it for three hours and then not ask me anything about myself anyway yes

Stef

[1:35:45] Guys if you're out there talking to a woman.

Izzy

[1:35:47] Ask her about her interests for

Stef

[1:35:49] Sure share what you're passionate about so she can see your passionate side i.

Izzy

[1:35:53] Don't want you to be a blank wall with no interest so please share what you're passionate about but and

Stef

[1:35:58] Then or maybe even first ask her what she cares about listen.

Izzy

[1:36:04] Or pretend at the time i was really into drawing and i was like we were talking about Christmas presents or whatever and I was like oh yeah I got like a drawing stylist or whatever and he's like that's and he didn't even respond to it he's like oh my sister has one of those they moved on yeah

Stef

[1:36:17] And this is the guy who was like here's the most obscure anime known to man.

Izzy

[1:36:20] No that was the photographer oh that's

Stef

[1:36:22] The okay oh okay yeah yeah yeah yeah, anyways uh um okay uh the featurettes usually oh so like the little movies and also with dvds you can get the director's audio so the director's telling you about the scenes if you really like the movie you said oh we shot it this way and that way uh there's a very funny um there's a movie we've never seen it called armageddon about uh an asteroid is going to hit the earth and they send up guys to blow it up and it's really it's a cool movie but the uh the plot there's tons of plot holes and the one an actor named ben affleck who's quite a cynical guy his his um his exposure of the plot holes is hilarious because he's got a commentary and it's like oh this doesn't make any sense and why do they have this happen and this doesn't make any sense at all and all of that so that.

Izzy

[1:37:13] Would be me as an actor i'm like how am i supposed to act the scene realistically if your movie doesn't make sense

Stef

[1:37:18] I don't know why actors don't fight more for that kind of stuff i.

Izzy

[1:37:21] Fight for that

Stef

[1:37:22] I think you should i think even.

Izzy

[1:37:23] In the one i'm in i'm like guys can we do this instead

Stef

[1:37:26] Yeah or.

Izzy

[1:37:27] Not not even that but like i kind of i didn't exactly say that but i kind of did i'm like but i should really be acting it like this not like this because you know later he says this and you know it doesn't add up to what he says before i'm like yeah i guess it's like okay

Stef

[1:37:40] I like it when tv show dvds have commentary of the actors in character i've never seen that.

Izzy

[1:37:46] That would be funny

Stef

[1:37:47] Yeah i've watched entire movies where they are the director and the lead or the explaining why they made the choices because i'm behind the scene stuff i just find very interesting have you tried goat's milk oh like greatest of all time okay goat's milk and goat's yolk see if you tolerate that better.

Izzy

[1:38:05] Sorry, what?

Stef

[1:38:06] It's hard to get a read on what Izzy feels about these things, but apparently it's similar to a cat with a hairball.

Izzy

[1:38:13] Guys, goat's cheese is freaking disgusting. All my Greek ancestors are probably crying in their graves right now.

Stef

[1:38:21] There's no mention of goat's cheese, though. No, that's why I'm not eating goat's milk and yogurt. Goat's milk and goat's yogurt, but I don't see maybe...

Izzy

[1:38:29] It's gross. We can leave it at that.

Stef

[1:38:32] All right. Oh, sheep milk is even more tolerable.

Izzy

[1:38:35] I'm not. I'm sorry. I'll just stick to coconut. I'll be vegan.

Stef

[1:38:38] Some people do find it pretty bad, though. All right. Thoughts on the silence of the lambs. I like how they went from goats to lambs to sheep. It's like they had a whole farm here going on. Well, no, you've not seen silence of the lambs.

Izzy

[1:38:51] I've never had goat's milk, and I never will. I'm sorry. It smells bad. I'm not going to eat that.

Stef

[1:38:54] It sounds like she's never had goat's milk. Sad.

Izzy

[1:38:58] Yeah, you can go cry in a corner.

Stef

[1:39:01] All right.

Izzy

[1:39:04] Gladiator. yes gladiator was good

Stef

[1:39:06] Ridley scott did a great job the first one the movie.

Izzy

[1:39:09] Was really good

Stef

[1:39:09] The second one okay.

[1:39:10] Movie Discussions and Opinions

Izzy

[1:39:10] It's not good it's like it felt like it was a fourth sequel no one wanted to do it i love that they got the same woman though like the the queen whatever

Stef

[1:39:18] Yeah so is he's not i mean it's a pretty brutal movie is he's not seen silence of the land you.

Izzy

[1:39:23] Showed me snippets

Stef

[1:39:23] Uh well just yeah the little stuff with the acting and all of that it looks cool it looks cool it's a very very dark movie it's.

Izzy

[1:39:29] Like what's the

Stef

[1:39:30] Point yeah it's just that serial killer thing right so um and And it's another one of the girl boss movies that drives women into careers that they're probably not well suited for as a whole.

Izzy

[1:39:39] I'm going to go PR. No, I'm kidding. I'm kidding. I'm kidding.

Stef

[1:39:44] All right. Any last one?

Izzy

[1:39:46] So feminine. She only became an architect, so she could like yap for like 30, 300,000 words or whatever.

Stef

[1:39:52] Well, technically she didn't become an architect.

Izzy

[1:39:54] Yeah, whatever.

Stef

[1:39:55] All right. Last cues. Thank you guys for the questions. You're welcome.

Izzy

[1:40:00] I'm just talking for the audience.

Stef

[1:40:01] I think the Averse to goat milk Is a North American Thing Do you now I don't.

Izzy

[1:40:06] Care I'm just a hater I'm sorry guys

Stef

[1:40:12] Well no Here's the problem So the problem is With Izzy If she has goat milk And you startle her She just rolls on her back With her legs in the air Not moving Like do you remember that Either way Yeah yeah yeah But it's even worse I think with the goat's milk Oh yeah, I just don't know if you saw it. Well, now you know.

Izzy

[1:40:27] I did see it. I absolutely saw it.

Stef

[1:40:31] Yeah. All right. Come on, baby. Come on, baby. Let's do those questions. freedommain.com slash donate if you would like to help out Le Show with Le Donations.

Izzy

[1:40:43] It's for him. He needs his protein. We will buy him protein.

Stef

[1:40:45] Apparently protein costs a lot of money.

Izzy

[1:40:47] Yeah, apparently. Maybe that's why we aren't doing it.

Stef

[1:40:50] Oh, this you could do. Okay, do the question. Money saving.

Izzy

[1:40:56] Money saving. Any advice, Izzy, for people on your... Let me reread that.

Stef

[1:41:01] Good job.

[1:41:02] Money Management Tips

Izzy

[1:41:03] Now I'm dyslexic. Okay. Any advice, Izzy, for people your age on saving and being smart with money management? I definitely talked about this earlier.

Stef

[1:41:10] Just let it rip.

Izzy

[1:41:12] I'm just saying, like, buy in bulk, guys. Bulk rice, dented cans, Walmart, bulk barn. You Americans don't have that because you're lame. Just bulk barn is actually expensive. I take it back. But like Costco, Costco's will save so much money. Costco will literally save so much money. Why we don't have a Costco thing is because Costco is like 40 minutes away from us and we'd probably spend it in gas getting there and back. But yeah, no, like seriously, save money, buy in bulk, buy dried stuff, order from like China, child labor stuff, just save money. I mean, if they're going to work, at least get some use out of it anyways, right? Don't get them out of a job.

Stef

[1:41:49] Okay. Now I'm going to say, I'm going to say one, two syllable word.

Izzy

[1:41:52] You should vote that one too, guys.

Stef

[1:41:53] I am going to say one two-syllable word that is also going to trigger Izzy in enormous speeches of great passion. Are you ready? You ready? You ready? Coupons.

Izzy

[1:42:04] Coupons.

Stef

[1:42:05] Is there anything that you would like to say about- Coupons. Coupons. The hunter-gathering is there for the coupons.

Izzy

[1:42:14] Yeah like

Stef

[1:42:15] You get a nine mile printout yeah like in the states the cvs nine mile printouts.

Izzy

[1:42:20] That's my favorite thing about the state and they're

Stef

[1:42:22] Like scan scan scan scan.

Izzy

[1:42:24] 40 off one item i'm gonna buy like the nine nine dollar item the maximum oh yeah most of my money even if i don't want it yeah

Stef

[1:42:31] I think we've walked out of there like 80 off 70 off 50.

Izzy

[1:42:34] Off stuff like 40 down like 12 oh yeah it's so good it's

Stef

[1:42:38] Great ever listen to audiobooks you know what so way back in the day.

Izzy

[1:42:42] Oh five the famous five it did not help me fall asleep at all i didn't want to sleep so i'd listen to the audiobooks i'm like oh it helps me sleep yeah

Stef

[1:42:51] So we we were very much into enid blighton which was a reader that i really liked as a kid and i didn't even know until i was much older that it was a female that it really matters we did mallory towers and then we did the famous five and they were great stories just great stories.

Izzy

[1:43:05] I still remember like really vivid memories of that of am and they were at the table and she was gonna say she said and the and the waves brought up like something right in the storm and it was the shipwreck which none of the kids wanted to say yeah or so you know and the storm brought up and they kicked her under the table and she was like i was gonna say the storm brought up the shit the uh the waves yeah the shipwreck it was it was so funny i don't remember i was a spider and so vivid in my head like i haven't read it in like 10 years

Stef

[1:43:33] Probably gwendoline and oh yeah it's just great stuff uh.

Izzy

[1:43:36] Do i use spotify i i really should everyone bullies me i use youtube music because i'm cheap

Stef

[1:43:42] Is he what's your favorite literary genre.

Izzy

[1:43:44] Sci-fi

Stef

[1:43:49] So just sci-fi. Sci-fi. Yeah, you are a huge fan. Would you say a lot of that came from Among Us or other things? Battlestar Galactica. Battlestar Galactica, yeah. It's so cringe.

Izzy

[1:43:57] Oh, I like Among Us, hey. But no, it's a- But you do.

Stef

[1:44:00] Oh, you did.

Izzy

[1:44:01] I do. I did. I liked the old Among Us. But yeah, no, it's so cringe. It became such a cringe game because all the little kids got into it and made it cringe. But it's just a good game. Guys, come on. Like, trapped in space with a murderer. That's pretty sick. That's like a- That's awesome. They actually- They're making a movie that's kind of like that. it's called ash and uh i'm definitely gonna watch i think it's r-rated but i'm still gonna watch it but it's like it's a bad it's like someone in space like her someone's killing her crew or her crew dies and she's like solving it it's not among us style it's kind of like among us s but it's like space murder mystery thing i love battlestar galactica though the 2008 one was like carthrace i know it was originally a man who made her a woman but you know what she was pretty awesome she i

Stef

[1:44:43] Didn't mind that i thought that.

Izzy

[1:44:44] Was right and she wasn't one of those day two women like she was she hit her protein she was buff she

Stef

[1:44:52] Was she probably got at least five to ten grams a day um let's see.

Izzy

[1:44:57] Here i can't even respond to that that's genuinely just like ow the

Stef

[1:45:00] Complete magic faraway tree was the best okay that's barely english is it.

Izzy

[1:45:05] I know what he's talking about i've heard of it i've never watched it but you

Stef

[1:45:09] See it's a wild one just like her dad lol she is growing adolescence it's fun to watch she's adorable.

Izzy

[1:45:14] I'm not adorable is he has with hatred and rage

Stef

[1:45:19] I'm getting a tan like richard driver's style on this side of my face izzy has life passion and energy the life spark.

Izzy

[1:45:25] It's

Stef

[1:45:26] By enid blighton the life spartan i'm just kidding.

Izzy

[1:45:29] The passionate oh

Stef

[1:45:30] This is the uh the uh complete magic faraway tree oh there's a whole enid blighton but the problem.

Izzy

[1:45:35] I'm wondering if that's the one you read with like the horse and like remember he called the horseback like no

Stef

[1:45:40] No that's the thomas cavernan series that's a different.

Izzy

[1:45:43] One yeah i thought we couldn't find it very

Stef

[1:45:45] Smart young lady she will have an amazing future she's great.

Izzy

[1:45:48] Guys i already said this i'm going to become an alcoholic it's not going to happen uh but think of

Stef

[1:45:55] All the potential you'll get to destroy surely that will feel like an.

Izzy

[1:45:57] Achievement i could do gambling

Stef

[1:45:58] Gambling well gambling and alcoholism so you get really the worst of.

Izzy

[1:46:01] Both worlds yes i get everything high stakes bad decisions oh yeah oh yeah i like this

Stef

[1:46:08] Sometimes destroying potential is really its own achievement yeah that's something i mean look at my entire uh public sector public career love izzy very true very true all right so we got another minute, there's something else up here i thought.

[1:46:28] Fashion Style Evolution

Izzy

[1:46:29] What's there uh

Stef

[1:46:30] Oh there's a saving and being so you did the being smart with money management what is your philosophy of saving.

Izzy

[1:46:35] I don't spend money guys i think i've spent in the last well i spent some money like a few days ago at the mall but i look i got something it's so cute it's like a denim skirt but it's not one of those like those mormon ones that go down to your feet it's like cute it's like above me so it's kind of like a little flirty but it's like cute i'm talking to a male audience about a cute skirt i'm sorry

Stef

[1:46:56] That's what i'm.

Izzy

[1:46:56] In here no but like but like it's cute and it was at a store that was like really trendy it looked like it was straight off of pinterest so it was like not trendy sorry but it was like very unique it was a cute it's like a denim skirt with shorts yeah and it was 50 but it was 75 off i got it for 13 and then i got other shorts denim shorts because i need them i'm going for denim shorts now i have like two pairs it's not even funny um and like you know they were really cheap i got them for nine dollars but they're not like low quality it's just that you've got to find the sales so that's probably like the most money and i spent like ten dollars on fourteen dollars on an acai bowl why is it so expensive it's like a tiny bowl anyway i'm fine i stole the water bottle i'm a thief you but you'd

Stef

[1:47:38] I hate spending, yeah, as a whole.

Izzy

[1:47:39] I hate spending, but I hate spending.

Stef

[1:47:40] But a sale, it gives you great joy.

Izzy

[1:47:42] It was there unopened for like 30 minutes. I'm going to take it, okay? No one used it.

Stef

[1:47:46] Right, right.

Izzy

[1:47:47] Um... But, yeah, I would definitely say, what's my fashion style?

Stef

[1:47:52] Hang on. Have you ever had Dostoevsky? We tried Siding Crime and Punishment. You didn't like it.

Izzy

[1:47:57] I honestly thought it was like, what's the point? It's just depressing.

Stef

[1:47:59] Right. It was so dark.

Izzy

[1:48:01] Yeah, I agree.

Stef

[1:48:02] Yeah, but it's a crime. It's got to be in the dark. What is your fashion style? You know, I've never asked you that. What is your fashion style?

Izzy

[1:48:07] I used to not have a style, and I'm recovering from that era. It's taking a lot of therapy, drugs, alcoholism, as previously mentioned. Yep.

Stef

[1:48:19] You felt your tomboy face went on a tiny bit long.

Izzy

[1:48:22] It wasn't like cool tomboy either. It wasn't the ones you see in the movies. It was like t-shirt and shorts on like unwashed hair and stuff. Not unwashed hair, but like uncombed hair, like that kind of thing. Not a good face. I was very tomboyish. But I am trying to go into like trendy. I did not own a pair of jeans until two months ago. So I'm really trying to step it up.

Stef

[1:48:47] I may have recommended jeans at some point in the past and been severely scorned for it.

Izzy

[1:48:53] Yes, because in the past, skinny jeans were the style and I really don't like them. I love the ones with the flared and ripped. I used to hate ripped jeans because I called them like degenerate. Degenerate. I can't talk. The Invisalign's killing me, guys. But I don't really care anymore. At this point, it's just like, do whatever you want. I don't even care. I'm sorry. I'm soulless now. It was all that movie. No, literally.

Stef

[1:49:15] I don't know if it's one way. It's one way. All right. she just stole your soul it's just that's it the whole the whole.

Izzy

[1:49:24] Yeah no honestly i don't really care anymore it's not like again like guys just aren't doing anything anyway so why do i care yeah

Stef

[1:49:31] Guys don't approach girls.

Izzy

[1:49:32] Anymore no and the only ones who do are like

Stef

[1:49:35] Older and that's bad right.

[1:49:35] Group Dynamics and Dating

Izzy

[1:49:36] Yeah um but it's uh what was i gonna say my style i'm trying to get into like alternative a bit i want my i want to have flair i want to wear stuff where it's like okay maybe it's not exactly appropriate not appropriate in terms of like skimpy but like appropriate for the occasion maybe i'm overdressed yeah um but you know what it's gonna get me compliments yeah like my friend she got like five compliments in the mall because she's like expressive with her clothing style and she wore like a dress and like uh what's it called like tights or whatever and like she put a bow in her hair definitely not fit for a mall date but you know what i respect it and i wish i wore that because it makes you stand out from the crowd so when i develop my fashion style that's what i'm going towards but

Stef

[1:50:17] You are developing a fashion yeah.

Izzy

[1:50:18] As i'm developing it um but i also kind of like the uh the casual style like track pants with like a tight tank top and like a sweater and stuff but because you can pull it off here's the thing if you dress down but you really do up your hair and makeup it will make any outfit look fancy not fancy but like it will make you look done up right right i'm just saying and for me makeup is like eyeshadow lip gloss and highlighter it's like nothing so it takes me like two minutes to do

Stef

[1:50:45] And well also you don't want to look 13.

Izzy

[1:50:47] Yeah no genuinely i don't think i would wear makeup but i just i have i mentioned this on another show i just look really really young yeah yeah

Stef

[1:50:54] You have a baby face.

Izzy

[1:50:55] For sure i have a baby face i'm very small i'm very short and i just look very young um what was i gonna say oh yeah sneaker sorry there's a question sneakers converse or flats i like i like converse is converse crap i'm trying to develop my fashion sense i don't know what shoes are um i'm i'm making fun of myself at this point are converse the ones that are like they're like the sneakers with like the the the one sec i'm looking at that i'm looking at

Stef

[1:51:21] All right so while you're doing that i'm going to assume people are going to ask about my fashion sense.

Izzy

[1:51:25] Yeah converse where's the camera lovely are we gonna put converse lovely okay i love those i love converse shoes converse i didn't remember what they were called right

Stef

[1:51:39] Right very nice uh so you like those um oh somebody said um i'm a mom of teen boys it's fun listening to them lol uh okay.

Izzy

[1:51:48] Listening to them to gaming tell them to get off their butt and go talk to women yes

Stef

[1:51:53] Uh go until as the mom this is uh prophesara you're.

Izzy

[1:51:57] So much nicer than i am i'm just like yeah as

Stef

[1:51:59] A mom well it's all right private calls i yell at people um i'm a mom of teen boys it's fun listening to them do your teen boys talk to girls do they ask girls out all right it's crazy it's so crazy guys don't approach young women anymore yeah i've talked about it with the dads.

Izzy

[1:52:12] Some of them do but not the ones like not the higher quality ones have you

Stef

[1:52:17] Considered making some of your own clothes is he out of.

Izzy

[1:52:21] Dude i really want to i really really want to um i've never touched a sewing machine i probably sound so like oh princess problem should we do that song you were saying oh the

Stef

[1:52:35] The mop it's the mop.

Izzy

[1:52:36] Why doesn't she just why doesn't she just just just so like

Stef

[1:52:40] Ghost hand over there.

Izzy

[1:52:41] So but i don't know um yeah i really want to though i've actually i've done it with like a little needle um i had a dress for like a fancy dance last year and it was sweet it was strapless and that was against the dress code because these people are lame so i had to sew on straps and it actually was really good um you know unbiased opinion i'm amazing but i would like to make my own clothes i think it'd be really fun hair

Stef

[1:53:05] Is everything is that true hair is not everything it's important but not everything i hope.

Izzy

[1:53:10] Hair is everything without hair you are nothing Um no i i don't know honestly i haven't really i haven't developed enough yet you know what's very new development for me uh

Stef

[1:53:23] Skate shoes those are the rolly.

Izzy

[1:53:25] Ones you know what those were cool in like early 2000s a long time past middle school i'm sorry i would love to wear those though do

Stef

[1:53:32] You like nature and hiking.

Izzy

[1:53:33] Yes i love nature love nature and hiking i feel like i feel like like medieval times when i go on a hike and like catch stuff and forage for berries that would probably kill me they're good uh

Stef

[1:53:42] Oh this is the mom uh when she starts her own podcast one day i'll remember her robust and fun teen style it's awesome izzy will grow so much she is positive and energetic.

Izzy

[1:53:50] I don't want to grow i like using brain rot terms what do you mean i have to stop saint's gibbity toilet uh

Stef

[1:53:57] How my guys do approach the ladies it's fun listening to their stories.

Izzy

[1:54:01] Congrats congrats you raised them right thank you all right we're

Stef

[1:54:04] Gonna come live on your street um have you ever crocheted or knitted.

Izzy

[1:54:09] Uh no i i need to i'm like i'm like I'm the worst medieval peasant ever. I'm sorry.

Stef

[1:54:17] You didn't knit. You used to get yarn.

Izzy

[1:54:19] I did it with like the finger knitting where you like weave it around like that and then you pull it over your fingers. I need to do that again.

Stef

[1:54:26] Do you want to give people an update on your thumb?

Izzy

[1:54:28] You're bullying.

Stef

[1:54:32] And then down, straighten. Oh, oh, it's getting there. All right.

Izzy

[1:54:37] I can't. It still doesn't work. It still doesn't work.

[1:54:39] Nature and Hiking Preferences

Stef

[1:54:40] What is your favorite types of nature? Okay, of all the places we've hiked, what do you like the most?

Izzy

[1:54:45] I love exploring creeks and rivers. Yes, in the water. Like medieval, like caveman. And I'm like grabbing fish with my hands. I'm like, look, this one's different from the rest. It's modeled. It has color. And then I put it in my little plastic sandwich bag that I eat. um i put it in my little bag and then i collect more yes so fish uh i literally was in there for like five hours and i had no idea i came out i'm like everyone's like oh we're gonna go when i like we all walked out kind of well people it's thursday what do you mean isn't it like one and they're like no it's four i'm like oh that was so that was so long ago i still remember it so vividly though yeah yeah uh

Stef

[1:55:22] So yeah river hiking and and that kind of stuff is great.

Izzy

[1:55:25] Gating is also really fun so it's tobogganing i love tobogganing if

Stef

[1:55:29] We're in this is the states occasionally if we're in florida uh those boardwalks where you can see the nature no.

Izzy

[1:55:36] Not really um

Stef

[1:55:37] What about what about we.

Izzy

[1:55:39] Went on that i can't grab the gator it's not fun we

Stef

[1:55:41] Went we did go on that hike but we actually saw the gators.

Izzy

[1:55:43] Like that wasn't that fun i mean they were all too big and mom was whining about it the entire time so like yeah

Stef

[1:55:48] She does she does like that.

Izzy

[1:55:49] Gator gators yes you know what sitting there is 20 feet away no one cares she does

Stef

[1:55:52] Like that limbs to stay attached state of mind.

Izzy

[1:55:54] But it's like okay but it's like a public walk and like there were so many people uh

Stef

[1:55:58] Bangs or no bangs.

Izzy

[1:56:00] Depends on the girl i'm getting into bangs i'm too scared to give myself full bangs so i have like little bangs that are like kind of curtain bangs not actual bangs and i know it would look really good on me but it will make me look younger i cannot do that right now i have to wait until i'm like 20 and that's when i'll actually want to look younger i

Stef

[1:56:15] Mean to be fair bangs would make me look younger as well.

Izzy

[1:56:19] Far quad looking no but like i would love to have bangs i know i look really good with things because when i like put my hair over my forehead it looks really good but i literally just cannot look younger right now it's it's already really bad i could we were at what was

Stef

[1:56:33] That guy he thought he thought you were how old.

Izzy

[1:56:35] Well that

Stef

[1:56:37] Was a 17 or 18 year old guy.

Izzy

[1:56:39] Oh my god remember this this guy was so nice he was like actually doing something like he was a manager at a restaurant and stuff and like we were chatting and he's like how come i've never seen you around before are you in like middle school and i'm like no and he's like how old are you i'm like i'm 16 i turned 17 this year and he's like really i don't like what do you mean really and he's like i'm sorry you look younger

Stef

[1:57:01] Quite a bit younger.

Izzy

[1:57:02] I'm like how old are you 25 i'm making fun of him of course so

Stef

[1:57:07] Like it's one it's one thing if it's one thing if you're 27 and someone thinks you're 25 that's not too bad but if you're 16 and they think you're 13 that's a bad thing.

Izzy

[1:57:16] That's really bad that's

Stef

[1:57:18] A bad thing.

Izzy

[1:57:18] That is really bad yeah yeah oh my gosh so

Stef

[1:57:21] I think we're just going to get your id tattooed on the back of your hand you just wave it around.

Izzy

[1:57:25] Guys are asking girls out but they just don't ask me out because i look like i'm a kid right

Stef

[1:57:29] Right right um is he can you tell in a split second if you like someone or.

Izzy

[1:57:35] Not yeah kind of it's not like immediate but i can get really good vibes Sometimes I can look at someone across the room and be like, oh, and other times it takes a bit of conversationing.

Stef

[1:57:47] But i'm sorry a little.

Izzy

[1:57:48] One conversation is

Stef

[1:57:50] That is that a new word am i not.

Izzy

[1:57:51] Weren't you just saying that you can do whatever you want when you write and say stuff like you can switch not

Stef

[1:57:56] On this show so there's no evidence of that yeah sorry.

Izzy

[1:57:59] In the car yesterday he was like oh you can do whatever you want you can just

Stef

[1:58:02] Do things so if i.

Izzy

[1:58:03] If i say conversationing right and now you hate on it is that not hypocritical there

Stef

[1:58:09] Is a little bit a little more action a little less conversationing i think that's an old song all right um do you have favorite national parks we don't really go the national parks or just regional walks um better than looking older not at this age i would say.

Izzy

[1:58:23] No but the problem is at this okay so you have five years of where it's good to look older but

Stef

[1:58:27] If you took up smoking again i'm gonna spend all your time in the sun.

Izzy

[1:58:30] Um well i know one girl who could absolutely pass for 30 no i'm dead serious absolutely 100 if she stopped dressing like a teenager and she didn't put on like the cutesy teenager makeup 30 she would get into a bar not even like a second glance you know who i'm talking about right i do i

Stef

[1:58:50] Do the e yeah yeah.

[1:58:51] Discussion on Aging and Appearance

Izzy

[1:58:52] She uh she would absolutely pass for 30 which is funny because none of her siblings would but she would and uh oh

Stef

[1:58:59] It's like like your other friend who is like the 60 year old guy trapped in the body of a teenager.

Izzy

[1:59:03] Oh my god well he doesn't he looks really young very serious but he's so serious yeah just have fun teenage

Stef

[1:59:10] Boys should not should be banned from trying.

Izzy

[1:59:11] For beards.

Stef

[1:59:12] I feel like God.

Izzy

[1:59:12] He shot me a look across the room. It's like, you know what? I'm going to say brain rot because it's funny. I don't say it because I'm actually watching Skibbity Toilet. I've never watched Skibbity Toilet and I hate it, but I'm going to say it because it's funny.

Stef

[1:59:22] If you ever pranked your dad, don't really do that. I don't think you have.

Izzy

[1:59:25] I put banana peels in your coffee.

Stef

[1:59:27] Oh my God, that's right. I had just, I had submerged that memory for trauma.

Izzy

[1:59:31] That was so funny. I did it twice, five years apart.

Stef

[1:59:34] Why does my coffee taste kind of bitter? You did not notice anything I noticed it all Makeup makes you look older though Keep up, keep up That's why we're talking about it Ecoute.

Izzy

[1:59:45] Listen If I said if she stopped wearing the makeup she'd look older

Stef

[1:59:50] Wait, did I unjustly attack a listener for not listening when I wasn't listening? Oh, hang on. This is the first time I've been hypocritical.

Izzy

[2:00:00] Twitter, Instagram.

Stef

[2:00:02] I'm kidding. And lots of other things. Thanks for the tip, Zach. I appreciate that. Teens, remind you of yourself in your early days. They remind you of who you were when the world was bright and new. It's refreshing.

Izzy

[2:00:12] The world is not bright and new. The world is depressing and dark. It's a void of emptiness and soullessness and evil. I'm sorry, guys. I need to stop.

Stef

[2:00:20] Yeah, it's odd that guys aren't approaching you more. Yeah, black cloud.

Izzy

[2:00:24] Yeah, I actually go out with, like, fake vampire teeth and a black wig. And I actually walk around wearing tents.

Stef

[2:00:31] The coffin purse. Have you ever seen those?

Izzy

[2:00:34] Yeah.

Stef

[2:00:35] No makeup. Don't dye your hair. Embrace natural beauty. Well, it's not a question of beauty. It's not a question that you just don't want to look 13. I really can't.

Izzy

[2:00:43] It's actually really, like, it's not fun. No. Going out, I'll have, like.

Stef

[2:00:47] Who brought the younger sister along? Anyway.

Izzy

[2:00:49] No genuinely like all my friends wear makeup they all look their age and i'm already the youngest in the group yeah and i do look like the younger sibling i it's honestly i really don't want to wear it's not like i don't want to i kind of like wearing makeup yes i look prettier so i like wearing it but it's not something i would do every day yeah um and when i go without it and i take pictures of myself i genuinely realize i'm like i look like 12 13 well

Stef

[2:01:12] I mean i'm sure you remember when you were younger um going to the hairdressers and what they said about your.

Izzy

[2:01:17] Hair do you tie your hair i was like eight why are you asking me if i dye my hair yeah i got lucky honestly i just have naturally like that that dark hair with like the highlights and natural highlights it's not it's nothing i take pride in it's literally genuinely just luck well

Stef

[2:01:28] And this is the woman who said like women pay hundreds of dollars to get that hair color that you just naturally.

Izzy

[2:01:33] Have right and it's changed a bit it's definitely less strawberry blonde than it used to be in stuff but it's a little darker yeah

Stef

[2:01:38] But that's because you're not eating enough strawberries because you're so obsessed with protein.

Izzy

[2:01:42] Oh my gosh but yeah i um i definitely agree makeup will kill your skin and not kill your skin but it will make your skin a lot worse i actually when i wear mascara every i do not wear mascara a lot like almost almost never no

Stef

[2:01:55] When you go up to like a when you.

Izzy

[2:01:56] Dress up or something yeah

Stef

[2:01:58] Prom or something.

Izzy

[2:01:59] Like that kind of thing i'll wear mascara my eyelashes if i wear it for like two or three days in a row my eyelashes actually start falling out i'm dead serious my eyelashes start falling out really uh is

Stef

[2:02:09] He don't lose hair.

Izzy

[2:02:10] No says someone um but yeah i would definitely say um what am i trying to say what am i trying to say oh yeah sorry um makeup's definitely not good for you i only wear like powders because i don't think it's bad and lip gloss i don't think it's bad it's it's just but

Stef

[2:02:28] You're concerned about the danger cycle of makeup.

Izzy

[2:02:30] Right oh yeah you you see yourself with it and then you can't go without it well

Stef

[2:02:35] And then you get the makeup which causes clogged pores or other skin issues which you then have to cover up with more makeup.

Izzy

[2:02:41] I wore mascara and i genuinely got more spots on my skin i'm dead serious on my nose or not on my nose but like right here do you see all the spots there oh

Stef

[2:02:48] It's little tiny tiny little bumps okay freckles okay.

Izzy

[2:02:51] Um i never had freckles there until i started wearing concealer for a bit and then i stopped wearing it right right i'm really glad i didn't but um yeah no seriously i genuinely think i barely wear makeup but when i do i notice a difference in the quality of my skin especially

Stef

[2:03:05] We see the the serious pancake goop that some.

Izzy

[2:03:07] Women put on i don't think it's good for you. It's just chemicals. You know what? Here's the thing. Girls that wear tons and tons of makeup will hate on me for drinking a Diet Coke.

[2:03:16] The Role of Makeup

Izzy

[2:03:16] because it's not natural girls girly look at you i've never actually realized this before i just realized it now but they're all like no just drink real sugar it's better for you and it's like uh look at your face oh

Stef

[2:03:29] Yeah i wonder andrew here is saying i wonder if we can figure out if he broke up with a girl like this what does he say.

Izzy

[2:03:34] The golden face cleopatra type women with the lightly fastened sorry tightly fastened black back black hair women with two inch long glowing fingernails are the worst sounds

Stef

[2:03:44] Like a sleep demon visited him last night.

Izzy

[2:03:46] Use commas and grammar please i beg especially since i have to read or we have to read out loud i beg oh

Stef

[2:03:52] I know i know i i uh i ask people a lot.

Izzy

[2:03:55] Okay guys i know i don't i don't have any nails on right now i really like long nails i used to again i always i used to think everything was degenerate but i think that's just because i didn't want to do fashion stuff so i had to have a reason for it i love fake nails they're so fun they're so fun i'm sorry like they're just like they're like ten dollars for like press ones and even better i bought the queer ones like a thing a pack of 500 for like eight dollars and you paint them yourself and you glue them on they're so fun it's like it's like custom you ever have an avatar in a video game you customize i can customize myself and it doesn't do any damage it's so fun uh

Stef

[2:04:30] Castor oil on the lashes they grow.

Izzy

[2:04:33] Strong guys oh

Stef

[2:04:34] That's for like.

Izzy

[2:04:35] I know i know i need to do the oils and stuff i just i literally don't care enough what are the oils like hair oils castor oil for eyelashes to like make them longer and stuff it's like growth serums and all that i know i need to i don't

Stef

[2:04:48] Which hazel even skin tone so is that a witch like a.

Izzy

[2:04:51] Bubbling mine which hazel burns my skin is

Stef

[2:04:55] It like holy water oh yeah twigs Jigs, jigs, jigs, jigs.

Izzy

[2:04:59] Why do you start yelling? Someone else, I think.

Stef

[2:05:02] Now, what is witch hazel? An oil ointment?

Izzy

[2:05:05] Some women use it when shaving their eyebrows, apparently. No, shaving their armpits or legs, and it's like, supposed to even it out and make it hurt less. I don't know why it hurts in the first place. What are you doing? Are you shaving it with, like, an axe? I don't know. It should not hurt.

Stef

[2:05:20] Shaving it with an axe?

Izzy

[2:05:21] Like, are you shaving your armpits with an axe? What are you doing? Why does it hurt?

Stef

[2:05:24] I don't shave my armpits, so I don't know. hazel.

Izzy

[2:05:26] To like do that kind of stuff and even the skin tone i honestly don't think it does anything

Stef

[2:05:31] Uh yes the eyebrows too do it oh that which hazel evens the skin tone and the eyebrows no i think she means castor oil for the eyebrows why would what's she saying about why would you want your eyebrows to grow strong you want that like eastern european unibrow like i don't understand that.

Izzy

[2:05:47] I hit my protein if i don't want to be strong

Stef

[2:05:49] Fair don't worry easy when you're 25 you will look 20 not a bad deal yeah.

Izzy

[2:05:53] But then i won't get lent to bars and nothing i have a fake id

Stef

[2:05:56] Uh which hazel dries the skin out pretty good yeah it does so even skin tone and dries the skin it's not.

Izzy

[2:06:04] Good for you

Stef

[2:06:04] But do you want the skin dried out no, Have you heard this theory about, like, don't wash your hair?

Izzy

[2:06:12] Yeah. Honestly, I think it depends on the woman.

Stef

[2:06:15] Because I said it depletes the oils, which then your skin produces more oil, so you've got to wash again, and it's just a circle cycle, right?

Izzy

[2:06:22] I find going into, like, natural waters and springs and ocean, my hair genuinely, if I do that, I can go, like, five days without washing my hair. Like, I know that sounds gross, but it will stay sleaky and smooth. It doesn't smell. Obviously, if it smells or it gets oily, I wash it.

Stef

[2:06:38] But somebody in my forum years ago was saying, well, look at bears. They don't wash their hair.

Izzy

[2:06:42] And they smell like crap.

Stef

[2:06:43] But their hair is wonderful.

Izzy

[2:06:44] They smell like crap.

Stef

[2:06:46] I have to wash my hair because I can get these clogged pores, which can get kind of infected.

Izzy

[2:06:51] So, yeah, no, I find a natural spring water or whatever. And it sounds so like preppy, but it's it just makes my hair something different about like the tap water, showerhead water.

Stef

[2:07:03] Which hazel dries the skin out pretty good. Which hazel doesn't dry out skin. It's a toner.

Izzy

[2:07:08] You know what fight over it all you want i don't ask

Stef

[2:07:10] Guys for a spot on the bench press we don't do.

Izzy

[2:07:13] A gym oh to meet guys i don't go to the gym guys i eat protein i don't do anything about it good

Stef

[2:07:18] Hair so i don't i do work out i don't have much protein good hair on the brows definition.

Izzy

[2:07:24] Yes yeah it is you have nice eyebrows um they call it boy brow it's a type of uh pencil that colors in your eyebrow yeah because they want thick eyebrows like men so they call it oh

Stef

[2:07:36] Yeah because there are some of these blonde women who have like you can't even see the eye.

Izzy

[2:07:40] Breast i definitely agree you should pencil those in because it just looks a little nicer but honestly do whatever you want

Stef

[2:07:44] No witch hazel does not dry you out lol.

[2:07:46] Confidence and Social Interactions

Izzy

[2:07:47] Okay guys you know what everyone's skin is different calm down fight fight fight fight uh

Stef

[2:07:53] What is one like uh ask guys to respond on the bench press uh however of course it would be preferable if men initiated but unfortunately men have just become a little bit freddy cats and listen i it's a different political situation than me too and i get all of that.

Izzy

[2:08:06] I don't care just pick holy women well and

Stef

[2:08:08] Also like guys like they don't want to talk to women in gyms in case they're getting filmed to put on blast.

Izzy

[2:08:12] My friends are like we'll be out someplace and we're like we're the cute guys we're the cute guys we're the cute guys yeah and then we'll see a guy he's not even cute and my friends will be oh i hope they ask for a number i hope they come talk to us yeah

Stef

[2:08:24] Come talk to us we think you're also desperate eye.

Izzy

[2:08:26] Contact and smile at guys i will literally look you in the eye smile and you don't even smile back yeah i am not ugly it's not like it's not like i'm some obese like turd like i'm not ugly and it's i'm not mean looking i'm nice i'm with my friends like genuinely i have a very nice demeanor everyone's helped me that They don't do anything. They might smile back a bit. They might nod, but they won't actually. Now it's, it's,

Stef

[2:08:51] It's very sad because this is, I'm just telling this to the guys out there, especially if you're, you're a young man, you have to have to, I cannot overemphasize this enough. You must talk to girls. You must. Well, yeah. I mean, just confront it. Do, do something, deal with it. I'm telling you, man, the guys I knew who didn't end up talking to girls much, their lives went very badly. it is just one of these rubicons you have to cross it it's just one of these male tests of manhood that you just have to go through women have periods which is difficult and unpleasant and guys have to risk rejection which is difficult and unpleasant i'd much rather risk the rejection than have the period yeah yeah but but you must you must find a way to do it you must go talk to girls uh what does it say the worst you can do is.

Izzy

[2:09:34] The word she says no yeah right

Stef

[2:09:37] So yeah and it can for sure it can.

Izzy

[2:09:40] Be bad videos on instagram literally the quote where she could say is no and the guy comes up and she starts screaming like it's so funny of course yeah obviously it's staged but it's funny no but you know i've seen girls like my friends will reject guys every now and then um or whatever and they're very polite about it they're very very polite they're like oh i'm so sorry i have to go i can't dance with you like that kind of thing like my parents are here to pick me up or my feet really hurt i'm gonna go sit this one out like that kind of thing they're so nice no one has ever sent you no one has looked you up and down like you you're crusty and

Stef

[2:10:08] If there is some girl who says ew she's like a rude.

Izzy

[2:10:11] Witch don't date her yeah she's mean anyways she

Stef

[2:10:14] Has uh she you just saved you time right.

Izzy

[2:10:16] Yeah um oh the sea salt spray yes that

Stef

[2:10:19] Is partly the rationale for sea salt spray for.

Izzy

[2:10:21] Hair salt spray i just got into it it's so good it kind of ruins my ends though what is that it's a spray with sea salt is it

Stef

[2:10:27] Really sea salt like salted caramel okay um it's not washing the hair which is the problem it's the shampoos.

Izzy

[2:10:34] Yeah that's probably i don't even know guys i'm sorry what

Stef

[2:10:37] Do you what do you wash your hair with if it's not shampoo.

Izzy

[2:10:39] No it's like certain types of shampoos are bad i don't know okay

Stef

[2:10:42] Just making stuff up now look at shampooed and blow-dried cows i think i won't do that.

Izzy

[2:10:47] No they're actually funny it's so funny really they look so that's

Stef

[2:10:51] Not a thing that.

Izzy

[2:10:51] They do is it yeah they look so silky smooth

Stef

[2:10:55] Uh oh sorry bad texting from what.

Izzy

[2:10:58] I probably made fun of her grammar oh

Stef

[2:11:00] Okay um i've.

Izzy

[2:11:03] Actually Don't they look cozy?

Stef

[2:11:07] Hang on, let me hold it up here. Okay, good. I've actually reduced hair washing to a couple of times a week lately. It's working for me. Okay, good. If tap water is messing with your hair, it's due to the bleach they add to the water at the municipal water treatment plant. Is that right? Yeah. A respectable man doesn't care about the state of the world. He does what is right, which is speaking to women. Thank you. He puts away any fears and does what is important. Very true. Very true. Being in a group of girls is the problem.

Izzy

[2:11:38] I would disagree.

Stef

[2:11:39] That's tough, man.

Izzy

[2:11:40] Because I've gotten more male attention in a group of girls. Again, the other day, I was at the mall with just one friend. We were there for like six hours. We literally went all over. We got much less attention than when we were out with like five of us.

Stef

[2:11:53] And you both look great, for sure. Yeah.

Izzy

[2:11:55] So I would definitely say that maybe the problem sometimes, and I can definitely understand as a man, finding it tough to go up to one girl in the group. But usually, if you're interested, you can find a time if she's on the edge of the group or whatever.

Stef

[2:12:06] Yeah, like a lion with zebras.

Izzy

[2:12:08] No, pretty much. But yeah, no, I would definitely say we get way more attention in the group than a single.

Stef

[2:12:13] Why do the ladies want the ugly guys to ask them for the number? They don't.

Izzy

[2:12:17] Ugly guys have certain confidence.

Stef

[2:12:19] What? That must be why I'm so insecure.

Izzy

[2:12:23] Okay. Assuming ugly is not like unwashed, unshaved.

Stef

[2:12:30] Yeah, yeah, slouching. But assuming ugly is just genetics.

Izzy

[2:12:32] You didn't get the best luck. Yeah, yeah. You have a certain confidence.

Stef

[2:12:35] Like.

Izzy

[2:12:36] Since so many women are into height short guys were deemed ugly for a little while right but they had the confidence the confidence guys short kings

Stef

[2:12:42] That's true for men to thrive they need to take initiative yes i'm scared of initiating but sometimes something just pushes me to do it better than feeling regret that's.

Izzy

[2:12:50] True i absolutely agree

Stef

[2:12:51] I do not have any regret for any girl i ever talked to in the past right and of course i.

Izzy

[2:12:57] Have the same for guys like i'm i don't really make the first move but when i do it i never regret

Stef

[2:13:01] Uh an insufferable 10 will become a two instantly, oh, this is if she's like, ew, kind of thing, right?

Izzy

[2:13:07] Oh, yeah.

Stef

[2:13:09] Uh when you ran a business did you ever sell things at cost to generate interest in your other products at the flea market tomorrow and we'll be selling ammo at cost just so i can have a sign that says bricks balls and bullets i'm selling lego by the pound i've embraced adulthood i cut down trees and build real buildings now i don't need the little plastic men anymore uh that's a bit of a word salad but uh yeah for sure selling things is called the last leader right so you sell things at cost or lower just to get people to come to your store and.

Izzy

[2:13:35] You're probably gonna buy more than just the two right

Stef

[2:13:37] Jolie shower heads are good for filtering bad shower water mean anything to you no okay uh so this refers to the actress angelina i think so i think if angelina is in your shower yeah it's fine uh a good man will enjoy the challenge yeah for sure for sure uh some women do get pleasure and validation from turning down ugly men yeah they're a nasty.

Izzy

[2:13:59] Those are rude women and nasty women anyways if they say no you can walk out of that knowing you ended up not ended up on top but like you were like you made a good decision

Stef

[2:14:06] Women usually go with the most confident that's true now is this but is there a certain level of confidence which gets too excessive for you and your friends.

Izzy

[2:14:12] You know they're going to be dating other girls

Stef

[2:14:14] Isn't you know there's.

Izzy

[2:14:16] One guy who i kind of liked for quite a while it's still kind of do yeah but i just know that he will never commit so it's not going to be i'm not but there's also a type of guy where he's like the kind of shy guys i know a lot of girls really like shy guys not for me necessarily but i don't know

Stef

[2:14:30] All right so we uh uh are you done we're done tired you're tired all right well it's a long.

Izzy

[2:14:35] Day i had to watch that movie guys i suffered all through it just for

Stef

[2:14:38] You snow white was rough man but i'm really glad that we got the review in and please avoid it as much as humanly possible and uh just watch the original just stop watching yeah stop watching disney as a whole for sure uh so thanks everyone of course and thank you izzy for it was a really really fun show i really do appreciate it but it was a lot of fun and i really do thank Thank you, everyone, for such great and engaging and entertaining and enjoyable questions.

[2:15:02] Dance and Social Engagements

Stef

[2:15:03] Sorry, I attend a local Irish dance from time to time with some male buddies around my age. They have a hard time asking women to dance. It was rough for me at first, but I can do it with little issues.

Izzy

[2:15:11] Yeah, exactly. Like, it's just a dance. It's not that serious.

Stef

[2:15:13] It's not. You're not committing.

Izzy

[2:15:15] They will literally dance with each other. It's a joke. And I will go up and I'm like, you are gay. Ask someone to dance.

Stef

[2:15:19] Yeah, yeah.

Izzy

[2:15:20] You are literally gay.

Stef

[2:15:21] But the funny thing is then they'll go and ask a man to dance. No, I'm kidding.

Izzy

[2:15:23] No, they will. They'll like jokingly, like not actually touch you. but like jokingly sway back and forth when there's a slow song and it's like, what are you doing?

Stef

[2:15:31] What are you doing? Continuance of the species. All right. Have a great evening. Freedomain.com slash donate to help out with the show and appreciate you, Izzy. Thank you all so much for the great questions. Lots of love from up here. My field twitching on my forehead. It's beautiful. And have yourself a glorious evening. We will talk to you Sunday morning.

Izzy

[2:15:50] Yeah.

Stef

[2:15:51] Lots of love. Bye.

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