0:03 - Tech Troubles and New Beginnings
39:35 - The State of Women's Relationships
59:27 - The Impact of Freedom on Society
1:04:31 - The Role of Authenticity in Success
1:08:17 - Reflections and Future Aspirations
In this episode, we dive into a reflective and provocative discussion marking the beginning of 2025, with a particular focus on technology, social dynamics, and the evolution of gender roles over two decades. I share an amusing yet frustrating anecdote about a recent internet outage, highlighting the often convoluted explanations provided by tech support. This leads me to ponder the broader ramifications of technology and communication in our lives, setting the stage for a deeper conversation about the state of relationships and societal expectations today.
As I celebrate the 20th anniversary of my work in promoting freedom and philosophical inquiry, I contemplate the changing landscape of interpersonal relationships. It is distressing to note a stark contrast in the desires of young men and women regarding romantic connections. Statistics reveal that a significantly lower percentage of young women express a desire for relationships compared to their male counterparts. I argue that this imbalance is a prelude to major social change, potentially even upheaval, as a stable society fundamentally relies on family structures and child-rearing capacities.
Continuing this thread, I examine how the newfound freedoms women have gained over the years have come with what I perceive as a disconnect from accountability. I suggest that when women were granted rights without proportionate responsibilities, society began to destabilize. The essence of freedom must inherently involve facing the consequences of one's choices, a principle that seems increasingly overlooked in today's discourse. I equate this shift with profound implications for societal coherence and individual wellbeing, arguing that freedom divorced from responsibility can lead to detrimental outcomes.
Throughout the conversation, I touch on the significant life challenges women face, such as single motherhood and financial instability, highlighting that a lack of accountability can foster poor decision-making, which ultimately harms societal structure. I advocate for the understanding that societal frameworks should be conducive to the raising of children, encapsulating the idea that a society's health is measured by how well it supports family formation and nurturance.
As the dialogue progresses, I tackle the topic of male ambition and its intrinsic connection to women. Historically, men's drive to achieve has often been motivated by the desire to uplift women and families. However, when societal dynamics shift unfavorably—such as when women depict independence in ways that undervalue traditional partnerships—this motivation can wane, leading men to withdraw from active societal contributions.
The talk then veers into the realm of personal accountability within relationships, emphasizing that toxic bond dynamics can disrupt familial stability. I argue that to foster lasting relationships, both parties must aim for shared values and mutual benefit. The contrasting attraction dynamics of women and men offer deep insights into the rationale behind societal choices and individual behaviors, laying bare the complexities of modern attraction.
In conclusion, I encourage listeners to reflect on the value of authenticity in relationships and social structures. Freedom and consequences are intertwined, and acknowledging this interplay is crucial for the healthy evolution of society. I express gratitude for the audience’s continued support of my philosophical explorations and insights, inviting them to consider the responsibilities we all share in shaping a more balanced and constructive social landscape as we embark on this new year.
[0:00] Well, good morning, everybody. Hope you're doing well. Stefan Mollin from Freedom Main.
[0:03] It is the 5th of January 2025, and yes, we got to start off the new year with tech issues. Sorry for not doing live streams. You know, you ever get the sense or the feeling when a tech person thinks they're talking to a non-tech person, and just the amount of wingdings, gobbledygook, baffle gap that you get. So my internet was down, some guy came by, And he's like, well, yeah, sometimes they push an update from the central server and the firmware doesn't hit your router in the right way. And it's like, that's just made up. Now, you absolutely lying people. You just think because they don't want to say, yeah, we screwed up. And that's why you didn't have any Internet, because then people get mad. And maybe they say, well, I'm not going to pay you for the time that I didn't have Internet.
[0:51] So they just give you this gobbledygook random syllable machination crap in the hopes that you'll just be like okay well i guess i'm happy to have my internet back so it's fine but yeah they push an update that the firmware and the router and it's like yeah come on don't give me that don't give me don't even try don't even try sometimes they push an update yeah whatever right So yeah, just sorry about that, but we're back and we're live again. So thank you so much for dropping by today. And yeah, so this morning I got this Rode mixer and for some reason it was producing robot voice. Why?
[1:35] There's no way to know. Do I touch any buttons? I don't. When something works, touching buttons is for my wife. that is not something I do for me. But anyway, tech crap is tech crap. It's just not the best. I say it is not auspicious. It is not auspicious. But we will ignore the voodoo of imaginary tech curses and move on with the conversation as a whole. So let's sound off. Welcome, welcome, everybody. Thank you so much for dropping by today. I am thrilled and happy and keen and excited and overjoyed and monstrously happy to be in conversation with you in this, in this, my friends, the 20th year, the 20th year of freedom. Now, was it freedom right at the beginning? Nope, it was just me and I guess Lou Rockwell and some articles. My first article, The Stateless Society and Examination of Alternatives was published in 2005, it being now 2025, that's 20 years. But at least I haven't changed at all. There has been zero aging in 20 years. There has been some aging in 20 years. But the most important thing is that.
[2:52] The most important thing is that my voice remains reasonably pleasant to listen to. And that's a good thing. And that's a good thing. So questions, comments, issues, challenges, problems, I'm happy to hear just while people are cooking up their brains to give me what they want to give me in terms of questions. I guess I'll start off the new year with a little chat about the ladies. A little chat about the ladies.
[3:24] So 10% fewer women say they want relationships than men say they want relationships. Average young women, about 38% of them say they want relationships, and about 50% of men say they want relationships. That's not ideal. A large contingent of young single men is a precession harbinger of significant social change because society exists for the facilitation of children, right? Society exists for the facilitation of children. And if there are significant portions of the male population who can't have children, it's a way of triggering social change, right? Possibly even revolution. Because.
[4:10] What have you got to lose, right? I mean, you've got to have a society that allows your DNA to continue. Otherwise, society is not serving its most essential function, which is to provide for the care and protection and capacity to raise children. So all those who set the sexes against each other and make it very hard for men and women to have children together are creating seeds for significant social change. Not always for the better. In fact, generally in society, it's for the worse. So the people who want more power like to destabilize society, and the best way to do that is to work against society's basic function, which is the having and raising of children. So it is very, very sad.
[4:55] So one of the things I think that's happened with women in the modern world, you know, that cheesy old statement, with great power comes great responsibility. It's not cheesy to me because I think I have a fairly decent power of eloquence and so on and reasoning and persuasion and charisma. And it's really been essential to me that I make sure I use this for the power of good rather than the power of self-aggrandizement or self-enrichment or that kind of stuff. Although, freedomain.com slash donate, donations would be deeply and gratefully accepted. The new year has not started with the roar, but rather with a whimper, the whimper being me. So, freedomain.com slash donate to help out the show. I really appreciate that.
[5:37] So with great power comes great responsibility and i think one of the things that happened, with women and the state right women are wonderful all human nature plus monopolistic coercion is corrupted right so i stay as far away from telling people what to do even with my powers of persuasion. So, holding power over others is the fastest way to end up despising yourself and being immune to the glories of love. So, What happened, I think, was women gained freedom, and almost at the same time, women avoided or were able to avoid accountability and responsibility. So freedom plus immunity from consequences is one of the most corrupting forces in the known universe. So what I mean by that is women got rights, you know, the gap between all men voting and all women voting was like 30 or 40 years in a lot of places. So in the giant span of human history, it doesn't really, it doesn't really matter.
[6:47] But what happened was women got the right to vote and then they didn't get or they couldn't be a part of the draft right that was the price of political participation in the past was being able to be drafted which is why men had an men wanted to keep the power of the state smaller because the state has the power to draft men to die in largely useless foreign conflicts well not useless for the banksters. And so men have always been cautious of government power because government power is used to disassemble men by the hundreds of millions in general over the course of war. But when women got the vote, then not only the women voted for, but the politicians offered freedom from consequences. So freedom, if it means anything, cannot mean freedom from consequences. Freedom from consequences is how we treat babies and toddlers. Freedom from consequences is Saddam Hussein's kids who can't be prosecuted, or all of the various privileged classes in the West who seemingly are immune from any negative legal consequences for what seem to me to be flagrantly illegal actions. And so immunity from consequences is a mark of tyranny, that you have the freedom to act, but then you also have the freedom to force other people to pay for your mistakes.
[8:14] So, if you say, well, you are free to take whatever course you want, and you are free to cheat. Those two freedoms oppose each other, right? So, if you say to a woman, oh, now you can become a doctor, but you're totally free to cheat, and steal marks from more studious students. Steal marks from more studious students. It's quite a mouthful. Then we would say, really, you're not free to become a doctor, because nobody's going to believe you're doctoring if you're free to cheat, right? So freedom can never mean freedom from consequences. Freedom is you are in control of your own life. You are welcome to make whatever decisions you want. You can ask for charity. You can ask people to help you with your bad decisions or help pay the costs of your bad decisions, but you can't force anyone. Forcing other people to pay for your bad decisions can in no way, shape, or form ever be a mark of liberty because liberty cannot involve the initiation of innocent people, the initiation of force against innocent people to pay for your bad decisions. So, for example, what are the major threats to a woman's success in life?
[9:24] The major threats are threefold. One, the father of her child or children abandons her. That is a massive risk for women and a risk for women and consequently for society as a whole that most societies have worked their fingers to the bone to avoid that as a situation where the man can just bail on the mother of his child, the children. I'm just going to say children, and I'll keep repeating the singular plural. So that she has a baby with a guy who bails. That's the number one disaster for a woman, right? Number two is she can't pay for healthcare. Women's healthcare requirements are generally larger than men's, other than, I guess, hernias, but men kind of sail through life. We're kind of bricks. We're alive or we're dead. And that's about it. But women need these constant tweaks and so on. So women's health, she can't afford to pay for healthcare, either for herself or as a consequence of the father of her children bailing. She can't pay for the healthcare costs of her children. That's number two. Number three, number three is destitution in old age, right?
[10:43] Destitution in old age. Those are the three major threats. The medical one is not quite as big a deal, but having children without a father to provide and or destitution in old age, right? That is the woman's major risks. I mean, we could say violence, but men are more susceptible to violence as a whole. And some, we could say rape, of course, yes, but men are raped as well. And the numbers can be quite shocking, even if you exclude prison. So Women face.
[11:21] Poor decisions leading to destitution. And the traditional tragic path for women who had children without a provider was to tumble down the horrifying steps of social ostracism and decay until they became prostitutes, which was a brutish and short life as a whole. So the negative consequences, I'm not, of course, advocating for that, but in general, the negative consequences of women having a child out of wedlock is that no good man would marry her. And because we no longer allow society to fail, we feel we have no need for morality. Morality, of course, has its ideal ethical goals, but morality is also don't fuck up. Don't fuck up. And when you no longer pay any penalties for fucking up. In fact, when fucking up can reward things in your life, then you have no longer any need for morality. So women got the awesome power to control the state in general through voting. And because women outvote men and women live longer than men and women often slightly outnumber men. So women got the awesome power, the astounding power to control the state.
[12:42] And immediately, politicians began offering them freedom, not of choice, but freedom from consequences. So what were the two things that came in pretty early was the welfare, well, even before the welfare state came, Social Security, which is female protection from destitution or poverty in old age. That came in right away. Ida Mae Wells was in, someone like that. But yeah, the initial people who got social security or old age pensions, which happened throughout the West, the people got massive amounts more than they were ever going to pay in. In fact, you could make one payment and then be set for the next 30 years.
[13:26] So why is that important? Well, if a woman does not have a man in her life, and just talk typical heterosexual tropes, but if a woman doesn't have a man in her life, then women tend to overspend. I don't know what it is exactly, this mole-driven, fairly satanic materialism, but the average man spends like 98% of his salary after taxes. The average woman spends like 112% of her salary after taxes. So women are spending machines, and that's largely because women's spending of the past would be restrained by the man saying yes or no, based upon his expertise in the finances. So and women couldn't be held accountable for their own debts in the past their husbands were accountable for the woman's debt so women evolved to expend resources and that's great and men evolved to restrain resources which is why when women get the vote the national debt goes through the roof and women don't want to say no to anyone or anything when it comes to spending because it's mean it's cruel you heartless bastards.
[14:37] So a woman who doesn't have a man and doesn't have children generally does not save nearly enough for her old age, nearly enough. I mean, there was a Kevin Samuels would occasionally ask women who were getting up there, hey, how much do you have saved for retirement? And they'd be like, 50K? It was like, so you need over $2 million for your retirement if you're going to live comfortably for 20, 30 years after you retire. And the women didn't have that. So what do they do? What do they do? Well, they run to the government and they say, well, I don't have savings. I don't have a man to provide for me. I don't have children who want to support me or are willing to support me, but I need to live in comfort in my old age. So I just run to the government, right? So women got freedom and also freedom from consequences. And these two things are diametrically opposed.
[15:36] These two things are diametrically opposed. If you have freedom, then you can't have freedom from consequences because your freedom from consequences is imposed by taking away freedom from other people. Like men pay 80% of the taxes, really. So that is very foundational and significant. And I think one of the issues that has occurred with regards to women is to give people freedom from consequences makes them crazy. To give people freedom from consequences makes them crazy. It detaches them from reality. So, we are an incredibly imaginative species, and that's great. It's positive. It's wonderful. It's where my novels and poems and so on come from, so that's really great, and my analogies. So, we're a very creative species. Now, how is it that we don't go crazy despite being so creative? Why don't we go insane? I mean, we go insane every night. We have psychotic delusions called dreams every night. So why don't we go crazy during the day? In other words, what grounding in reality has kept us sane and allowed us to create these amazingly imaginative and creative brains, right? Well what keeps us sane is consequences.
[17:01] What keeps us sane is consequences. This is one of the reasons why, although I was not a huge fan of doing all the manual labor I did as a teen and as a late teens, early 20s, the gold panning, the prospecting, the living in intense, heating myself in minus 40 degree weather with jet fuel and dragging drill bits around and giant pionjar drills around in the frozen tundra and stepping in waist deep snow with snowshoes and humping stuff all over the place.
[17:32] I wasn't a huge fan of it at the time, but man, did it help with the old sanity thing, right? Because again, as a very creative guy, to work with your hands with brute consequences, you had to be seriously careful out there because we were at least two days from any kind of medical care. So if you get a bad gash, you're dead, right? If you get a broken limb, it's going to be pretty bad because you're going to have a lot of pain and you're not going to get it set for a couple of days and you're going to have to fly through a bumpy plane ride with a broken leg. So you had to be like seriously careful out there. And people who live in words and books and language and manipulation and syllables and bullshit, which is most of what that stuff is, they go crazy because they don't have the grounding of natural, brutal, empirical reality. So consequences keeps us sane. And the fact that consequences can be quite brutal has kept us so sane that we can afford to develop this creative imagination, this unreality within the mind. And by unreality, I just mean against direct empirical reality, right?
[18:42] So, our imagination is, you know, a great strength and a great weakness. It is a great strength when it is paired with consequences. It's a great weakness when we remove consequences. Because when we remove consequences, is. Our imagination turns to a kind of madness, a kind of psychosis, where people can just ignore math, they can ignore reality, they can pursue feelings, they can get enraged at anyone who brings facts, reason, and math to bear on any particular equation or question or issue or concern, and you get addicted to unreality, which is, in other words, you get your virtuous dopamine from intentions and statements rather than facts and outcomes, right? Which is why people don't care about the outcomes of particular issues, particular programs. They don't care. The Moynihan Report in the 60s basically said that the black family was going to be destroyed by the welfare state.
[19:44] And it was. Black families used to be 80% married. Now they're 75 to 80% single mothers. Freedom from consequences, right? there's a kind of bitter meme floating around x and this is true not just for black women of course but there's bitter meme floating around x with a black guy saying you know i'm stable and hard-working and so on right and the black women are like you're boring right and then there's some guy who's like i'm a thug and like call women terrible names and they're like oh daddy right and then they're pregnant the thug is gone and they're like hey let's let's find the nice men to raise our babies and it's like it's kind of a bitter meme uh obviously it's certainly not true for uh everyone but there's a certain amount of compelling content uh in the black community with regards to that stuff right so and it's the same thing that um, charles murray did in his books about the welfare state and he's got this fantastic analogy about how paying people to quit smoking ends up with them smoking more right.
[20:51] So, I think of our creativity as a giant, massive engine. Let's say two giant, massive engines, each hemisphere, right? Two giant, massive engines, and they're attached to a giant, heavy plane. Now, when the giant jet engines are attached to a giant, heavy plane, you get flight. If you just detach the engines from the plane, light them up and shoot them skywards, they go up and they explode or they crash, but they don't, there's no control, right? So you need the restraint. You've got this massive jet engine to push an airplane, which the airplane is consequences, of course, and the creativity is the jet engine. But when you detach our brains from consequences, basically the giant, massive firing Witten, Pratt & Whitney or Rolls-Royce engines tear free of the wings of the plane, the plane crashes, and they just go spiraling off and crash as well, or explode or something like that, right? So.
[21:51] The fact that women got political freedoms or political rights and then immediately, almost immediately, got freedom from consequences, has driven women kind of crazy. And then people say, well, why are men not approaching women? Why are men not working hard? And that's because as men, most of what we do is for women. I mean, I tell you this, I was girl crazy as a teenager. I'm woman crazy now, but just one woman. So what I did as a teenager was for women, for girls. Why did I go to the gym? For girls. Why did I do sports? For girls. To look good, to meet girls, to have them see me do competent things in the athletic arena. Why did I have a job so that I could, well, I mean, I needed a job for income, but for most boys, you get a job so that you have money so you can take girls out.
[22:57] Male ambition is driven by, not desire for achievement, because men can generally make do with very little, but male achievement is for women. We work for women, and of course, consequently for children. But if it's some, you know, vaguely man-hating, blue-haired, obese woman with SA glasses, why would you want to work that hard for that? Like, why? Why would you want to sacrifice and work hard and give up on your vices and pursue your dedication and your workaholism for what? Men work for women. And when the women aren't worth working for, the men don't work as much and civilization really begins to decay. It's really about killing the goose that lays the golden egg. The more that men are punished, or excluded or women are not desirable, the slower the engine goes, it sustains everything in civilization. Everything, everything.
[24:02] So when women choose to make themselves unattractive to men because they don't face any negative consequences and because, you know, a bit of the hive mind of females is like, we don't need men, men are useless, men are pointless, men are rabies, right? So the more that women say we don't need men, the men will work less and less hard to maintain society, and then women end up in a very bad situation as a whole. So, I just wanted to mention that. I think it's a good thing to ponder that since women got political freedom, and then almost immediately freedom from consequences, they got corrupted into mental illness by no longer being grounded in reality, because consequences and reality are the same thing. All right, let's see here. Ba-ba-boom, boom-boom, boom-boom-boom-boom. Hi, Stef, says someone, Mr. M. My best friend is sleeping with prostitutes, cheating on his wife. No kids involved. Ten years together.
[25:11] All right. Going through the intro to philosophy, you still look great, man. Well, thank you. I appreciate that. The cameras have gotten higher resolution as I've gotten more craggly. But I also weighed 30 pounds more back then, so I appreciate that. Thanks. So your best friend is sleeping with prostitutes, cheating on his wife. No kids involved 10 years together. The fuck are you doing with such a trash planet in your orbit? Like, what are you doing? What, your best friend? This is the best guy you can come up with? Male friendship in particular is based on strength, loyalty, and virtue. And this guy has nothing. He can't resist his impulses. he has no loyalty to his wife, and he's not virtuous. I mean, he's a disease magnet that's going to infect his wife. Or he's going to get beaten up, or the Johns are going to follow him home because he's got enough money for prostitutes and rob his house like he's putting his wife in danger, both medically and physically.
[26:11] So, 2025 is my year of bluntness. In fact, I'm just going to be blunt.
[26:18] If your best friend is whoring around on his wife, then your friends suck and you suck what the living hell are you doing with such a trashy human being in your orbit you realize he's a shield that keeps all decent people away because if I met you at a party some dinner party or whatever we just had a meet up on Friday which was great fun you can ask any questions if you want about that it was absolutely fantastic to meet everyone We had a lovely walk, and my daughter was a tour guide. We had to find a restaurant with a round table, so we all got to sit across from each other. There's a giant round table. It was just fantastic, and we went for coffees and walked some more, and it was just a wonderful, wonderful evening. Great to meet all of the listeners and see all of the relationships that have come out of the show. It's absolutely wonderful to see. So if I'm at you, and I'm not saying obviously I'm some paragon, but you know just as in general if I met you and you told me this story I'd back away I wouldn't I would honestly I would have absolutely nothing to do with you in any social context because that's just trash man that's just complete trash he's given money to criminals he's uh participating in semi-exploitation or exploitation of women he's putting his wife at risk he's a pathological liar, uh this is just a monster what the fuck are you doing hanging around with such a trashy human being.
[27:46] Because that decision, it tells me everything I need to know about your moral judgment and what you're willing to put up with and what you're willing to support and your eagerness to have someone like that in your life. Why would any decent person have anything to do with you if this is your social circle? All right, somebody says, hi, Stef, just wanted to say I have been finding your content extremely helpful recently, particularly around negotiating and how it is actually extra effort. Oh, good. Thank you. Thank you. Appreciate that. Should I lose contact with such people even if he is my best friend? Cutting off this guy is not going to solve the problem of why you have someone like this in your life in the first place. But I wouldn't have anything to do with anyone like this, like not in a million years. I would view this as some leprosy-covered, pustule sword person want to give me a big squishy hug in his tighty-whities. I would have absolutely nothing. I would be revolted and repulsed and I would feel visceral spinal revulsion at such a person and I would move a town if they moved next door.
[28:53] I think Stef said it best. Women have been intentionally deceived into thinking the second half of their life will be anything like the first half. Oh, yeah. I mean, I don't know if these are trolls or engagement farms or whatever, like all the women who are like, I'm 43. I have a good job. I cook. I clean. I have a nice house. why don't men want to date me? Why no datey? Why no date for men? And what's it? Home math was like, well, because you're 43. And you're 43. Men date for eggs. Love exists. Marriage exists. Hormones exist. Lust exists. Sexual organs exist for the purpose of children. Everything's the cosmic dance to introduce the sperm and the egg. That's it. That's it. It's all it's about. Women have no intrinsic value. Men have no intrinsic value. On the dating market, it's all about fertility and babies. And yes, I know there are people who can't have children and blah, blah, blah. Who cares? Doesn't matter. We build our roads for cars. Doesn't mean that bikes can't use them. It just means that they're not built for bikes.
[29:54] So, I don't know if it is, well, no, you look great for 43. You look fantastic. No, don't care. Don't care. Don't care. This is as ridiculous as having an old clunker of a car putting a fresh coat of paint on it and think you've made it young again it's completely bizarre it's completely bizarre it's it's like the debate about nails like okay if there are women here i know there are women here you're lurkers maybe but the fuck is it with women in nails why do you have these n-dimensional ether-based christmas tree ornaments on the ends of your fingers us.
[30:32] All men can think about is how that's going to scratch your balls, right? But why, what is it with chicks and nails? I do not understand this. Women and eyebrows, women and eyelashes. I do not need to see tarantulas coming out of your eyeballs. I just, I don't need to see it. I don't need to see it. You see those things getting peeled off and it's like, oh God, it looks like you're disassembling your oculus set. Horrendous. So yeah, I mean, there's a lot. I don't get the nails thing. Nails is like a real fetish, especially if you go sort of in South or Central of America. this like nails thing is wild. And there's not one man alive who's ever given the least tiniest, remotest, pumpkin spice shit about a woman's nails. Not a tiny bit. Not even a tiniest, tiny bit. We don't care about nails. We don't care about your shoes. We don't care about your nails. And we sure as shit don't care about your handbag because all you're doing is buying logos. It's so strange, you know, how women have become completely disconnected from what men want. What do men want? What do men want? What do we want? What do we want as men? A nice woman, reasonably attractive, reasonable weight, positive and helpful. Decent conversationalist, good listener, good talker. That's what we want. None of that shit is for sale at the mall. Can't buy any of that stuff from Amazon.
[31:54] Crazy. How does the invention of the birth control fit into all this? So, the invention of the birth control allowed for women to have bonding orgasms with men they weren't bonded with, right? So, the orgasm is a highly positive, of course, one of the most positive experiences in life other than this show, of course, which is a tantric extended orgasm or braingasm, as it's a, ooh, ooh, just happened again, ooh, right, braingasm, that lasts forever and ever, amen. So, a woman's orgasm is her body responding to the fact that the man is positive and productive with regards to having children, right? So, the orgasm is the, particularly for women, right, because multiple orgasms, which is like watching people juggle on top of a charging rhino, but particularly multiple orgasms is a way of dopamining a woman's bonding mechanism to a man the birth control pill meant that you could have sexual activity without the risk of pregnancy although there are other risks involved with the birth control but it allowed women to have orgasms with men that she was not bonded to with regards to marriage and children which completely screws up the bonding mechanism and this is why women with a high body count end up divorcing their men, for the most part.
[33:21] All right. The idea of Stef being more blunt slightly boggles my mind. Well, you know, I listen to comments, I read comments, and some of them are nonsense, but some of them are, of course, very interesting. By the way, that... Yeah, this guy who posted about, hey, whatever happened to Stefan Molyneux, he was kind of neutral, he was kind of milquetoast, but they nuked him out of the universe. That thing's at, like... Um that thing's at like 5.4 million views or something like that I mean it's pretty crazy pretty crazy but good.
[33:53] Uh, so somebody was like, oh, he was more direct back in 2015, 2016, 2017. And there's some truth in that. There's some truth in that. But I'm going to be wrestling myself back to the high, challenging, but scraping, charging horse of directness as best I can. All right. Stef says, Joe, I just renewed my locals subscription for another year. Looking forward to another great year. Well, thank you. I appreciate that. Local subscriptions are going down and not by a tiny amount. So, I mean, this is just a general business issue. I mean, if you've been an entrepreneur, you kind of understand this.
[34:29] So there's always a decay, right? It's called turnover, right? So people get into the show, they get distracted, they forget about it, they don't listen for a while, or for whatever reason, my content doesn't grab them by the brain horns and ride them to a blinding sunrise of illumination. And so they end up, oh, I forgot about this renewal. I'm going to cancel or let it decay or whatever not renew and so normally you get people who just decay out of the show I don't know why but it happens and then you get people who come in now because I'm not as prominent as I am prominent as I used to be and of course I've never really advertised not on other people's shows not on a major platform the input is less than the output so the outflow of people supporting the show is less than the inflow of people supporting it's sorry, the outflow is greater than the inflow. And that's just a fact. Obviously, I can try and do my best to give you quality, positive shows and be helpful and useful and productive and all of that kind of stuff. But it's just to say that if you are listening to this now, live, or later, if you haven't subscribed, and you've been listening for a while, I mean, I think it's, personally, I just think it's the honorable thing to do, is to support what it is that you care about. Like, whatever you fund is going to get stronger, whatever you don't fund is going to get weaker, and I think we all want philosophy to get stronger in the world.
[35:54] And, you know, just by the by, like this, the mass immigrant rape of little girls in England is back in the news because of a report. And I posted on Locals just way over a decade ago, I was talking about this in very strong terms. So just having been right for so long, and it's brutal, right? It's really, really tough. I hate being right, and the price of being early is horrendous at times.
[36:26] So if you are listening, you want to help support philosophy, not just in the here and now. The philosophy that we do here is for all time. It is for all time, forever and ever, amen. And it changes things. I get philosophy doesn't change a huge amount sometimes in the here and now, although it can in your personal life, but societal-wise, it takes time. So if you have not subscribed it would be gratefully accepted there of course are massive benefits to subscriptions you get like 120 or 140 shows you get the truth about the french revolution and all kinds of other great stuff that goes on in the donor section and there are private donor channels which we can talk about and talk with so you get a lot of benefits you get to help philosophy. I think it's pretty good for your own conscience. And you can donate for the price of, I don't know, a cup of coffee a week, right? A cup of coffee a week, right? $2.50 for a coffee, four weeks, $10, you can subscribe. It's very helpful. People are leaving. Of course, that's inevitable. And if you could help either by subscribing or if you are subscribing, and again, And obviously, if there are financial issues, massively sympathize, it can be a tough economy out there. So, if you could hold on to your subscription, I would really appreciate that. And if you would like to help out, I would really appreciate that as well. So, thank you, Joe. By the way, by the way.
[37:54] Thank you for being so blunt, Stef. I needed that. Good. We need more of this, Stef. Right. Right. I love the bluntness. A 43-year-old can technically still have a child. You mean a 43-year-old woman? That's some real dice rolling, man. That's some real dice rolling. Because it's not just can you have a child, it's can you have a healthy child. Can you have a healthy child? All right.
[38:33] Oh, oh. Those painted-on eyebrows, yeah, it's wild, man. Feminine Fit Cooperative. Yes, that's right. That's right. All right, let's see here. Hmm. Thank you, Jules. Looking forward to the new year. I appreciate that. Ambivalence parts one to four. It's a good series in the premium section as well. Yeah. Premium.freedomain.com. My subscription is worth it. I thank you so much. I really do appreciate that. You know, I have to talk myself in and out, right? So I sort of obviously as a responsible guy who runs a show, a philosophy conversation, you know, I check the numbers. I don't just, hey, I hope we can pay our bills, right? So, and I try not to be like, oh, the numbers are up, oh, the numbers are down, right? Because you don't want to be on that particular roller coaster, but it's not, it's not zero effect, right?
[39:36] And enthusiasm goes up with more donations, so.
[39:46] I know we had this debate before, but maybe some collaborators would help bring in new people. Well, okay, I hear what you're saying, but the majority of people just want to talk about politics. Majority of people just want to talk about politics. So, I think, was it Trump might get sentenced on the 10th? Some pretty wild stuff, man. Pretty wild stuff.
[40:13] So, finding somebody who wants to do a collaboration that doesn't involve politics, it's not impossible, but it's a tough uh it's a tough row to hoe so to speak and of course the people who aren't into politics generally have pretty small shows so it's not like i get some big, new audience right so somebody says i probably would never have found you if you'd still be talking mostly about politics i got tired of politics yes for sure somebody says i had my second child at 44 apparently the midwives had never heard of anyone my age having no complications I feel like I've won the lottery. I wouldn't recommend on it, do it in your 20s. Well, yeah, so you had your second child at 44, which means that when your child is graduating high school, you're almost retired. So one of the, I mean, I'm aware of this just from my own daughter, right? My own daughter is 16 and I'm 58, right? So that's a tiny challenge. I'll be 59 this year. So I'm kind of aware that I don't want my daughter's young life to be burdened with having to take care of.
[41:27] Parents fading out from good health, which is why I try to eat well, exercise, you know, and stay active and so on, right? You stop moving, you die, you die, or you pray for death. So keep moving, keep moving, keep moving. What's the main business model for gaining new members? Word of mouth. Well, that's an interesting thing, right? That's an interesting thing. And I don't exactly know how to process this. I'm sort of happy to take your thoughts and recommendations regarding that. But, you know, not too long ago, I had a five and a half million view tweet, which resulted in really no particular new viewership. Isn't that, I mean, it's wild, right? Oh, Stef, yeah, I remember that guy. Holy crap, I haven't heard about that guy in forever. Is he still around? Is he still alive? Is he still north of the big hole? Wow, I've forgotten about this guy completely. And then, you know, people are replying, and I thank them for that, freedomain.com, freedomain.com. He's still doing content. He's there, right? So people are like, oh my God, Stefan Marnie, holy crap. I haven't heard of that guy in forever and ever.
[42:29] Wow. That guy was super important to me. What a great thinker. What a great communicator, man. He, he really changed my life. And then they never come by. And I don't know. I love you guys for this. You, you don't even know what elites you are for being here and supporting philosophy. Of course, not just financially but just in terms of questions and comments and issues and challenges and all that kind of stuff because other people are like oh yeah that guy was the greatest ever oh is there a cat playing piano off i go i mean i don't know what it is i don't know what it is uh that that that's just a fact right that's just a fact so it is it is odd to me it would be like if there was some band that I had for some reason I loved a band right let's love that band right but then you know for some for some reason I had just forgotten about that band right and then somebody said hey they've just released a new album right and I'd be like oh my god I love that band they were like the soundtrack of my youth and then I I just don't go into the band's website or get the band or whatever, right? Oh, my gosh. It's too, it's too strange for me. It's too strange for me, but, you know, this is, you just, I have to be an empiricist, right? I have to be an empiricist because that's really the base, the basis of it, so.
[43:58] All right, let me, back to your questions and comments. Uh, it seems people won't use another platform. If you did go back on Twitter, i'm not saying you should you'd be massive again instantly no.
[44:15] I very much, and this is my, it's my fault, my issue, my problem whatsoever, it's my fault, my issue, my problem, right? You know, there's this, it's an old cartoon, which is like a woman saying, honey, come to bed to her husband. And he's like, no, I can't come to bed. There's somebody who's still wrong on the internet. My own issue, my own problem. It's the foundation of my strength. Also in Achilles heel for me is that, you know, if I went back on Twitter, of course, um people would would quote criticisms of me that were completely wrong right i mean there's a couple of staples that people go to about about me that are just false right just completely false and and lies and nonsense and so on right and um you know i have a little bit of correct falsehood, plus and minus right i have i have a little bit of of correct falsehood it's it's my greatest strength and a little bit of Achilles heel, right? So I went back on. People would post all of these falsehoods, right? Lies, right? Lies. And I would be tempted. It's wrong. It's not right. It's not healthy. I get it. Strength and weakness, right? I mean, but it would be tempting to be like, no, that's just not true. No, that's completely false. No, that's a total lie. Blah, blah, blah, blah, right? And it's tough, man.
[45:34] Ooh, it's tough. I don't know because I've been, I've not been part of that temptation world for a long time, so I'm not going to say for sure that that would be the case. Maybe I would have overcome it in my late 50th maturity-ness, but it would be, uh, it would be, it would be real tempting. It would be real tempting, and maybe I would survive and flourish and not have a problem with that temptation, but maybe I wouldn't. But maybe I wouldn't. If Stef returns to X, he would get banned again for violating the new negative content terms of service.
[46:12] Uh, you know, seeing, uh, we assume that somebody like Elon Musk, I don't think this is in particular, uh, a, a shocking statement, but we assume that someone like Elon Musk has pretty high testosterone. I mean, fair to say, right? Pretty high testosterone. Uh, you'd have to, to be that kind of leader and it's not any sort of negative thing. It's a fact, It's a reality. But yeah, bro has some high tea. And sometimes with high tea comes some temper issues. I say this with some knowledge. And so seeing him absolutely rage out about the H1B debate was wild, man. Well, I guess if he had more self-control, he wouldn't have eight babies by apparently 14 or 15 different women. I'm not sure how that works biologically. But hey, man, Facts are facts.
[47:08] All right. Let's do another little bit at a time. So nice to be back. To be back with you all. So nice to be back with you all. And let's see here. I love this one. This is Google. We really value your privacy. Twitter. We'd never collect anything. Apple. We securely encrypt everything on device. Facebook literally gives you an ad for something you dreamed about. It's quite true. Well, ad popping, is that what they call it, where they think they're listening in? Right.
[47:47] All right. Oh, maybe I'll do this one. Maybe I'll do this later. It is, well, let me ask you guys this. I know we've touched on this before, but let's. Let's touch on it again, he said in a creepy way that makes you want to call HR. But, do you, when was the last time you approached a woman in person? Just, I'm not saying like, hey, how you doing? But, how about breakfast? Shall I call you or nudge you? So, but just, you know, went up and talked to a woman that you were attracted to and just chatted with her. Hey, you know, what are you doing? or what's that book you're reading or anything like this, anything, not some big pickup line thing, but just, when was the last time as a man, you, uh, you went up in person, in person and talked to a female Friday night. Excellent. Excellent. Baby, baby, baby. Ooh, let's see here.
[49:00] We'll get to that. Yeah, so X has got a new positive content, but it promotes positive content. So Elon Musk wants to avoid people's regret time on Twitter. And I understand that. I, you know, you got to be, it's real easy to criticize people who run a business. But what Elon, I don't want to speak for him. This is my guess. What he's concerned about is people who say, damn, I spent an hour on Twitter and now I feel like shit. And I think we've all had that experience when you just happen to get a cluster of doom scrolling algorithms and so he's looking to avoid regret hours right because if you have a negative experience at a business you will over time tend to avoid that business simple straight, entrepreneurial mathematical facts so in terms of trying to promote positive promote positive content sure that makes sense right he wants to retain his user base, And doom scrolling has a burnout algorithm built into your neural system as a whole, right? Unless you're really addicted to it, right? So doom scrolling is, oh God, there's danger, you know, and as a particularly as men, it's women too, but particularly as men, we're like danger, Will Robinson. And we want to explore and understand that danger. Why? Because we're primarily responsible for guarding society from danger. That's our biological imperative, so to speak, right?
[50:29] But the problem is that doom scrolling, eventually your fight or flight and your adrenals just burn out, like your fight or flight just burns out, and then you want to avoid that stimuli, right?
[50:40] Because doom scrolling activates action neurology in the mail, but if you can't do anything about things, then your neurology is like, oh, well, I guess we're just slaves who have no choice, so there's not much point doom scrolling. So the positive content thing, do not bet against uh elon musk's instincts as an entrepreneur there's reasons why he's doing what he's doing and there can be a significant excess and i know tim pool's making fun of it and all that kind of stuff which i think is kind of bitchy honestly and what is it they say about tim pool the uh cat hat fishing that's very funny right he says with a hat on but um yeah he's he he wants to have users have a positive experience because if people their adrenals burn out from doom scrolling and they avoid the app, then that's bad for his investment and bad for what he's trying to achieve, right? Somebody says, Sambanta, nice to see you. I couldn't imagine being anywhere else or supporting anyone else. This is the best show. No other show has the impact free domain does. I'll only occasionally check out other podcasts to get things I can't get here, like in-depth financial and stock crypto market talks. Well, I appreciate that. And I completely agree with you. there will never, ever be anything like this ever again in the universe. There will never, ever, just so you know, just so you understand what's going on here. And this is not just me. It's a big part of what I do is the conversations, right? Particularly the listener call-ins.
[52:08] There has never been a more traction-based, practical application of philosophy in human history. So, I was talking to a friend of mine who's doing some entrepreneurial stuff, and we've been talking about naming. The naming is important, right? So, free domain, right? Freedom is the main thing, and freedom should be your domain. It should be your environment, right? And free domain, the original tagline for many years, was the logic of personal and political liberty. Personal comes first. The logic, free domain. The logic of personal and political liberty. Now, personal comes first.
[52:40] And so your question, would you rather pay 50% tax and be in a joyful marriage or pay no tax and be in a miserable marriage? What impacts your life more? Having to pay 50% in taxes has an impact or having a happy marriage? Now, I can tell you, having a happy marriage is worth more than all the money in the universe. Having a happy marriage is worth more than all the money in the biggest, important, most important decision you will make. So the reason why I have a philosophy show that does not have the word philosophy in the title or the tagline, free domain, no word philosophy, logic of personal and political liberty, no word philosophy. Why do I not have the word philosophy in a philosophy show? Because philosophy is a negative word in terms of getting people's attention and positive impression. Oh, God, a show on philosophy. Oh, my God, it's going to be, oh, is everything an illusion? And free will is not real. And we're all just atoms. And it's just going to be a bunch of boring, abstract nonsense. It's going to have zero impact on my life.
[53:51] It's going to be like, hey, I wonder where the spleen on a Klingon is located. It's an interesting question. It's like, it's really not. It's completely irrelevant, right? So that which is the most relevant in society tends to be the least philosophical, and that which is the most philosophical tends to be the least relevant. And I was like, hey, what if we just jam these two things together? What if we take the red pill and the blue pill and everything else? Now what if we just jam philosophical and practical together what if the practical is the philosophical and the philosophical is the practical what if philosophy could be not ancient maps of here be dragons but a gps live that could get you to a beautiful wonderful loving happy destination as much as is possible in a corrupt world that we are born into.
[54:45] What if i can redefine philosophy to that which adds value to people's personal lives what if philosophy could actually liberate people from abuse what if philosophy could actually lead people to love not in some platonic abstract two souls separated in the ether wandering the planet trying to find each other bullshit right which is basically a cover for pederastry or the rape of young greased boys in ancient athens but what if philosophy could lead you away from evil and towards virtue and lead you away from exploitation and towards love and power and independence. What if? What if philosophy could actually get shit done? What if? What if I could turn philosophy from bullshit physics into practical engineering?
[55:31] The dream of magical pegasi to actual cars that get you places. What if the spinning wheels of philosophy could finally be giant speckle ass jammed down on the tarmac and get people places? What if? What if? Well, the first thing I'm going to need to do if I'm going to have practical philosophy is not have the word philosophy in the title or the tagline.
[55:56] Because it's going to drive people away. And I'm not disagreeing with that. That's exactly how philosophy has marketed itself. See, philosophers have retreated to the ivory towers because philosophers get banished and killed on a regular basis throughout society. So the more you actually change in society, the more you'll be attacked. So philosophers have retreated to the ivory towers and talk about nonsense and bullshit, A, because they're funded and protected by the state, and B, because when you go out down into the marketplace and start talking to people about actual practical virtues, well, you free them from the control of evildoers and, hey, spoiler, evildoers don't like it when you help people get away from their control, right? So if you've been an abusive parent your whole life and you will not admit fault and you will not reform and you will not improve and some guy comes along and says to the kids, the adult kids, hey, you don't have to be in abusive relationships. Let's say they skedaddle. Well, you're not happy, right? So philosophy has marketed itself as unimportant so that philosophers can continue their mastications of language, in abstract towers of useless futility without actually angering any evildoers in the world, which is kind of like a cancer researcher saying, well, I really want to do a lot of cancer research, but the last thing I'd ever want to do is harm any cancer cells. It's like, that is kind of the gig, right? That is kind of the gig.
[57:19] All right. I have to admit, I have to stay off X. It sucks me down, and I start squabbling with my husband. Well, and it is like these child rape scandals, child rape horrors in the UK. I mean, there's only a certain amount of abyss you can stare into before it starts to steal your soul. The amount of suffering, somebody's saying a quarter million girls, million girls, the amount of suffering that has occurred is so beyond human comprehension that you do have to look away, I think, from time to time.
[57:53] All right. Two months ago. You last talked to a girl. Facebook is somebody says Facebook is pretty bad these days. I still log in to check on friends and people I know, and all I see is rage bait and links to papers I don't follow. I know it's an algorithm that tries to get you to engage just to show you ads, but I still try to go on sometimes through that bit of human interaction with people I don't see after.
[58:22] All right, five years ago you last talked to a woman in person right uh Stef did you see scott adams on x complaining about amazon importing h1b dilbert calendars from china yeah so scott adams i think he's basically saying that, amazon is very destructive because a entrepreneur in america who comes up with a great product immediately gets copy-pasted by people in China who undercut them because they don't have to do the research and development costs. It's like copy-pasting a pill that takes 10 years to develop, right? A billion dollars for the first pill and five bucks for the second. So if you only have to produce a second, you're saving a lot of money. And so it's very destructive to the economy to have this copy-paste stuff going on as a whole. Because how many stories does it take where I worked for three years to create a great product. It got copy pasted by some overseas person and I ended up not making any money and the enforcement mechanisms are terrible. And so how many people then don't bother being entrepreneurs because of that, right?
[59:28] Andrew says, thank you Stef and the great people here that share philosophy. Thank you very much. Twitter makes me rage. I don't go there. Yeah.
[59:47] What other shows are out there like this one? Does the number two even exist? No, no. This is a unique combination, an alignment of the planets of my particular skill set, technology, and the greatest audience in the world. I know everyone's like, oh, it's the greatest audience. Seriously, you're the greatest audience in the world. I mean, you've really hung on there under heavy fire. And we are all roaming the trenches together. And I really, really appreciate that.
[1:00:22] Curious, Stef, have you ever thought of a successor to your show? The show really is one of the best to ever do it. Well, now that the ice has been broken, maybe other people can follow the path. I don't think there'll be a successor. This is a one-time-in-history thing. I don't think there'll be a successor, because so much ground has been broken over the course of this last 20 years. I mean, so much ground has been broken over the course of the last 20 years. I've been right about so much. Again, with the participation of you all giving me feedback and all of that kind of stuff. So, so much has been right. So much ground has been broken. So many people have been helped massively. So many families have been formed. So many children have been... Like, there is nothing like it. And there never will be, again, because everything that's after this has this as a reference, right?
[1:01:08] I mean how many shows have been right about so much and solve the problem of secular ethics and help people get married and push back against climate change and like all of the stuff that i've been right about alongside with you know a proof for free will and uh push back on the simulation theory popularized by both plato and descartes and uh just amazing stuff a rational definition of love, our involuntary response to virtue, if we're virtuous, and relationships, like there's just not been the cluster of topics that has occurred, along with being right about crypto and Bitcoin and fiat currency and debt and problems with immigration, like all of the stuff that I have talked about for many, many years, that is all new. And there never will be anything like it ever, ever, ever again. So, enjoy it while it lasts, because this will never return. This will never return. Every show that passes will never be replicated in the future by anyone, at any time, in any circumstance.
[1:02:22] Somebody says, Rose says, I'm a student of the Bible, and you, Stefan, effectively teach the logic of what God said much better than churches do, in my opinion. Well, thank you. I appreciate that. I appreciate that. It is, the inspiration that bubbles up from my brain is so deep and powerful, I can absolutely, completely, and totally understand how people say the only answer is God. Like, not me, right? But the only answer is a connection to the divine. There's no way that you can come up with these analogies, these arguments, these responses, this clarity. Somebody was making clips and they said, well, it's tough because so many other people do errs and ums. I do and er, right? Or yeah, yeah, right, right? But for the most part, it's fairly fluid. It's fairly fluent. And the inspiration that comes up with great questions, you know, I get these live streams, I get these great questions. I think we come up with great answers together. I vocalize them in ways that are compelling and concise and illustrative and so on. so, where does that come from? how does it happen? nobody knows, right? this is the old Leonard Cohen thing people say.
[1:03:27] Where did you come up with the tune for Hallelujah? and he's like I don't know if I knew I'd go there more often right? I don't know I don't know I agree about the negative connotations with the word philosophy mentioning philosophy and just about anyone you're on an eye roll, well of course I learned a lot about the history of philosophy from Monty Python and football fields. Rose says, in the Bible, a sexual relationship is described as being happiest if long-term and mutually beneficial. No government license necessary.
[1:04:03] Uh, I disagree, Stef. When you force an addict into rehab, they usually fail. When they go on their own, it's like 92%. I'm not sure. Sorry, I, uh, oh, success. I don't know. Sorry. I don't know what you're referring to, and you've corrected the word. I don't know what it was originally, right? China did that to Etsy, too. I saw it years ago. They would copy-paste entire shops of the actual artist. Yeah, very sad. What will make you successful in coming years is authenticity.
[1:04:32] Keep that above all else. You will continue to grow. It's an odd comment. It's an odd comment. What will make you successful in the coming years is authenticity. I think I've been fairly authentic. So I'm not sure that that's in the future. It'd be like, you know, Stef, if you just started telling the truth and taking some risks in the future you might succeed it's like i think i've been pretty authentic i mean have you ever seen me back down or disavow a position i know to be true no matter what the cost no matter what the cost have you ever seen me back down or disavow a fact or an argument i know to be valid and true ever seen that ever seen that don't think so saw the movie heretic on your recommendation good stuff did you ever do a review of it i think so.
[1:05:32] Marriage can be good for family stability, but you'd have to vet your partner very well and be on the same page and have at least significantly similar agendas. Yes, for sure.
[1:05:47] Ah, right. A goddess love and you, Stefan, says Rose, have spent many war-torn years contemplating how to keep love alive while also taking care of yourself, logically. Tough love is love, too. Yes, I appreciate that. Oh, hey, Steve. Happy New Year. Welcome. Welcome. Somebody says, I recently saw the film Parasite, expecting it to be a profound and exciting study of classism and morality, but was really disappointed. I have heard you reference the movie before. Did you ever do a formal review? I couldn't find any in the archives. Well, hit me with a Y if you'd like me to do a review of Parasite. I found it quite a powerful film. No, he wasn't encouraging me to remain authentic. He was encouraging me to become authentic in order to succeed. Somebody says, as an engineer, I don't understand how my brain works. I just presented with a problem, and it starts producing potential solutions. I don't know where the solutions are coming from. Yes, that's right. That's right. I mean, they're going to carve up my brain after I'm dead, and the language centers are going to be the size of Tokyo. So, and I obviously have worked with that, but the reason I worked with it was as huge to begin with, right?
[1:07:11] All right, somebody says, I posted the Peaceful Parenting book on a group chat to 100 of my colleagues about describing it as the most important book ever written by a mortal man. I'm never going to change my opinion. Unfortunately, no colleagues said they would read it. I'm sorry about that. Yes. Okay, I will watch and review the movie Parasite. I will do it while parachuting on a parasail and exploring the paranormal. Parasympathetically. All right. Any other last questions or comments or issues or problems or challenges or thoughts? I'm obviously, I'm lingering on this first date of the new year. Just don't want to go home. I just want to suck on your ear until you hear God. And everyone's like, Stef, worst guy on the day, worst guy on the planet to date. Or best if you actually hear God.
[1:08:17] All right, let me just see here. What else have we got coming in? What else do we have coming in? I must know. All right, well, I think what do we have time-wise here? Yeah, let's not... Happy New Year. Happy New Year to you guys as well. I hope that you have a wonderful year this year. Let's make it a great year of freedom and truth and virtue and honesty. And, you know, I mean, so the Peaceful Parenting book, of course, I would love it if it was like discussed all over the place. If it was discussed all over the place, I would love it if the Peaceful Parenting book were discussed and reviewed and all of that. But I wrote it so that I don't have to feel guilty. And I wrote it so that I don't have to forgive people who abuse children. I mean, I also wrote it for the good that it can do and will do and all of that. So just wanted to mention that. So uh yes it was a it was a fun meetup it was a fun meetup did you sing au lang syne this year i did not in fact i did not why are we are we shattering here it looks like we're oh are we back looks like we were just slowing because you know how can an eye and possibly process a process us a video.
[1:09:44] How was the Florida trip? It was great. Yeah, it was great. It was one I just talked about this earlier. It was wonderful to meet everyone. I love meeting the listeners.
[1:09:54] Watched you a number two? Mambo number two. Didn't like the ending. Well, we just did a review of that, so you should listen to that. You know, you don't have to watch the movies to get great things from the review so and never brought to mind yes so if you have any other movies to recommend love to hear them you can post them of course at freedomain.locals.com so i will stop here and i really do thank you everyone so so so so much deeply and humbly and gratefully again if you've got a subscription please hang on to it if you haven't subscribed but you're listening please please please subscribe and help out the show would very much be deeply and humbly and gratefully appreciated don't forget that you can get all of these great things you can try out the premium stuff for free just go to fdrurl.com slash locals don't forget freedomain.com slash call you could do private call-ins now and all of that so i really do appreciate everybody's support of the show. We're doing amazing stuff. Once in a universe phenomenon is what we're doing here. I will never be argued out of that. And I appreciate everyone's love and care and attention and support. Lots of love from up here, my friends. I will talk to you as soon. Bye.
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