0:54 - Song Quiz Ventriloquism
1:22 - Laughing Through Lyrics
2:15 - Venturing into Opera
3:01 - Taylor Swift Suggestions
3:49 - Favorite Christmas Songs
4:26 - Brain Rot AI
5:10 - Adele and Karaoke
5:47 - Obscure Song Quiz
6:57 - AI Assistance in Song
7:32 - Queen's Musical Legacy
9:29 - Mini Skibbity Man?
10:12 - Bioshock Musical References
11:29 - 99 Luftballons
12:21 - Evanescence and Memes
13:29 - The Love Brigade
14:55 - Unfamiliar with Sting
16:21 - The Midnight Rambler
20:33 - Lime in the Coconut
23:16 - Shopping Anecdotes
25:16 - Donations and Support
25:52 - Musical Philosophy
30:22 - The Essence of Marriage
34:33 - Forgiveness and Healing
40:54 - Slippery Slope Discussions
49:46 - Critique of Drug Culture
57:10 - Trust and Relationships
58:22 - The Price of Loyalty
1:00:04 - The Burden of Gossip
1:02:40 - The Consequences of Choices
1:04:26 - Outsourcing Conscience
1:08:08 - Commitment vs. Desire
1:13:48 - Feelings and Decisions
1:18:42 - The Tightrope of Life
1:22:30 - Current Events and Context
1:31:15 - The Dangers of Mysticism
1:40:06 - Bad Luck and Life’s Risks
The latest episode of the radio show features Stefan and Izzy engaging in a lively and comedic musical quiz, showcasing their playful banter and musical prowess. The show begins with Stefan introducing a song quiz that would involve ventriloquism, a hobby of his, which sets the tone for a fun and light-hearted session. As they kick off the quiz, Izzy attempts to guess songs based on their lyrics and melodies while navigating the challenges of not breaking the illusion of ventriloquism. Throughout this segment, the chemistry between the two hosts shines, as they share laughter and inside jokes.
Izzy shares her humorous struggles with ventriloquism, admitting to almost laughing out loud, while Stefan continues to tease her about maintaining the façade. They playfully discuss different types of songs and delve into a mix of genres, including Taylor Swift's "All Too Well" and classic Christmas tunes. There is a whimsical back-and-forth as they struggle to recall lyrics, suggesting songs to each other and occasionally getting sidetracked by other thoughts, demonstrating a strong rapport. Stefan praises Izzy's voice, prompting a discussion about her capable singing abilities and interests in other artists like Adele and Queen.
Midway through the episode, the mood shifts slightly as Stefan introduces more serious topics intertwined with humor. They discuss famous artists, recalling anecdotes about their songs and diving into fun facts about their careers. There are humorous moments as they joke about obscure songs and artists that may not resonate with their audience. The playful exploration of songs highlights both hosts' personalities, especially when Stefan encourages Izzy to perform various styles of songs, including opera and humor-laden themes.
The latter part of the episode takes a more philosophical turn, as Stefan delves into current events, touching on topics like societal structures, the nature of marriage and relationships, and the intricacies of personal responsibility. He discusses the importance of commitment in relationships, emphasizing how not moving in with someone unless they fully commit can lead to a more fulfilling partnership. The conversation reflects on traditional values juxtaposed with modern dating practices, as they both express their thoughts on the significance of a committed relationship and its impact on personal growth.
As the episode progresses, Stefan addresses contemporary issues like trust within society, particularly in the context of the COVID-19 pandemic. He articulates concerns about how relationships can be tested under pressure, urging listeners to consider the kind of people they surround themselves with and how trust can be established or broken. He utilizes examples from personal experiences and broader societal observations to reinforce his points.
Overall, the episode is a delightful blend of musical trivia, insightful discussion on relationships and personal values, and humorous anecdotes, making it engaging for listeners who enjoy a mix of entertainment and deep conversation. The interplay between light-hearted musical games and serious dialogue about modern life issues creates a compelling dynamic that showcases the versatility of both hosts.
[0:00] Yeah we're gonna do a song quiz um i don't know everybody has their weird little hobbies ventriloquism is actually one of mine believe it or not and so i'm gonna try a song quiz a song quiz ventriloquism style are you ready
[0:22] Mississippi in the middle of a dry spell Jimmy Rogers on the Victrola pie, Mama's dancing with baby on her shoulder The sun is setting like molasses in the sky The boy could sing, knew how to move Everything, Always wanted more He'd leave you long and far, All right.
[0:54] Who's got it? Come on, baby. Who's got it? I was trying to No, no, no, you just blew the whole illusion. Why did you speak?
[1:01] I was trying so hard not to laugh, bro. I was struggling so bad. No, it's not AI. It's me. It's Izzy.
[1:10] Izzy, they totally bought it. I was going to rake in the donations. So bad black velvet well to go well done kale well done kale very nice no
[1:21] Literally i was like.
[1:22] You can come to oh to here yeah yeah no
[1:26] It was like wait i was reading the lyrics hold on i heard this thing earlier today okay in the part where he's like always wait the boy could sick knew how to move everything i was like laughing so hard.
[1:40] Says wow good job good
[1:44] Voice thank you.
[1:45] No no i think they're just referring to the one i did earlier oh your
[1:48] Ventriloquism with your mouth closed yeah that was.
[1:50] Crazy you have a really nice voice beautiful voice never huge fan of the song though hey if anyone could make you a fan of the song it's izzy Next up, Fosia What? No, I'm kidding Sorry Yeah,
[2:03] Right I can do Nah.
[2:05] Nah, nah Alright, let's do another one Do another one I don't have anything Nothing? Alright Oh, I think you do Do I?
[2:12] Hmm What?
[2:15] Oh, I already did that in a different show.
[2:17] All right, fine.
[2:18] People would know. If you care, you'd know.
[2:21] Pavarotti next.
[2:22] What's that?
[2:23] Oh, Pavarotti is a very famous opera singer.
[2:26] Okay, okay, wait, wait, wait. I gotta pull up the music.
[2:29] How about one that's completely obscure? Because we've already blown the illusion.
[2:32] The illusion.
[2:33] I mean, they, no, they totally, you didn't even see the acting.
[2:37] I did actually, I was kind of glancing.
[2:40] I was, Taylor Swift song. Oh God. I was singing through my nose.
[2:43] I'll do it, I'll do it.
[2:44] I'll do it.
[2:45] What Taylor Swift song should I do?
[2:48] Do you guys have a suggestion for a Taylor Swift song? You know, it's Tuesday, not Wednesday. We can do whatever the heck we want. Anything.
[2:57] Yeah, Taylor Swift song suggestion, because I don't really know many of them. So I'll like...
[3:01] But if you don't know them...
[3:03] I'll listen to it and sing. I was like...
[3:07] Favorite Christmas songs. I like... Um, I'll be home for Christmas, you can count on me, please have snow and mistletoe, and presents under the tree. I like that one. Also, A Little Town of Bethlehem, I really like. God rest. god rest ye merry gentlemen or the world war ii song god rest ye jerry mentalman uh shake it off why you gotta be so mean oh i think these are songs i think
[3:48] They might be taylor swift songs.
[3:49] All too well by taylor swift love that one okay
[3:54] Wait wait let me i'm just pulling up something for like the um yeah i accept okay.
[3:59] Well is he watching easy wrangle her phone will give you literal whiplash.
[4:05] Spiritual whiplash. I just gotta get the lyrics. No, I'm trying to do something, but it's not working. I was gonna do Have a Holly Jolly Rizmas.
[4:18] It's that Have a Holly Jolly Rizmas.
[4:21] It's a brain rot version, but I can't get the lyrics.
[4:26] Izzy and I have found an English language to brain rot AI, so we'll be working on a lot of Shakespeare wait what wait
[4:36] Maybe maybe maybe.
[4:38] Maybe an Adele song you do a good Adele song I think She did an Adele song at karaoke and somebody invited her to be part of a parade.
[4:47] I did. Yeah, that was fun. Okay. You know, I can't find it. Taylor Swift song. What were the ones they suggested?
[4:52] So we got, uh, uh, why you gotta be so mean. I think that's a song. No, that's a, that's a song about statistics. Shake it off. All too well by Taylor Swift. Love that one. Maybe an Adele song.
[5:11] Wait, hold on. I gotta listen to it in my ear. I don't know why you gotta be so mean when I look it up I'm just getting a song I mean it's mean from Taylor Swift I could be wrong oh I'm.
[5:23] So sorry I minimized the wrong thing
[5:25] Deleted the chat so.
[5:26] We got why you gotta be so mean shake it off all too well
[5:31] Let's see all too well you.
[5:33] Could do your Adele
[5:34] I could I.
[5:35] Like that I think you're a nice Adele
[5:38] I just want the lyrics oh I actually don't know all too well at all.
[5:44] Okay you want to
[5:45] Adele it why don't you do one uh.
[5:47] Do a song i can't do an adele song is he they're just too high
[5:50] I think you could yeah yeah adele oh i have it on here oh you have.
[5:58] It you want to do it
[5:58] No no but you do what i'm saying like it doesn't have to be adele just a song quiz oh.
[6:02] Um a song quiz all right uh all right here's an obscure one here's an obscure one um well she's gonna Gone, gone this morning, see what a fool I've been, oh Lord, I said, what a fool I've been. All right, that's an obscure one.
[6:35] Oh, I've got it.
[6:37] Well, I took a train down to Georgia, 16 coaches long, oh lord, I said, 16 coaches long.
[6:53] I was not looking up the lyrics, but I definitely got it.
[6:58] Oh, excellent. Well, where would you be without AI to help you with your answers?
[7:02] It's not AI.
[7:03] Oh, right. Queen, yes?
[7:07] Oh, I think it's.
[7:10] See, what a fool I've been. It's not Elvis Presley. Oh, Lord, I said, what a fool I've been.
[7:25] Small turning attention.
[7:26] Can Izzy do a Queen song? Nevermore.
[7:30] I can do Old Dead, I think.
[7:32] Yeah? That's a lovely song. So that's a queen cover it's a brian may adapted an old blues song that they used to do live there was a really gay rendition of it on an in an album version but it's called see what a fool i've been and they used to do it live and freddie just ripped it like a the best blues soul singer you've ever heard oh that's good yeah it was really good but yeah they never really did it live after the early 70s i want to ride my bicycle yeah okay
[8:02] I'll do i'll do all dead it starts like that's it right.
[8:07] She yeah she
[8:09] Came without a farthing a babe without a name so much ado about nothing is what she'd try to say so much ado my lover so many games we played Through every fleeted summer Through every precious day All dead, all dead All the dreams we had That was a bit off All the dreams we had And I wonder I don't know this part And.
[8:45] I wonder All the dreams we had I wonder why I still live on
[8:51] I wonder why I still live on All dead, all dead And alone, I'm spared That.
[9:04] Note was not spared And alone,
[9:07] I'm spared Wait, I gotta listen to it in my... Hold on, Oh, and alone, I'm spared. My sweeter half instead, all dead and gone. I don't know the song that well.
[9:22] That was nice. That was like a good solid 95%.
[9:25] No, it wasn't. You're capping.
[9:28] I'm capping?
[9:29] You're capping.
[9:30] All right. Can we do one last one, which is Mini Skibbity Man?
[9:35] I have no idea what you're talking about.
[9:37] Yeah, it's a Skibbity Toilet song.
[9:39] No, it's not.
[9:40] Yeah, it is. Mini Skibbity Toilet Man? No?
[9:42] No. Oh, okay. That's not a song.
[9:44] I have that wrong. I have that wrong. Are you gonna take me home tonight? No. Tender ears cannot hear such soul.
[9:58] Huh?
[9:59] Tender ears cannot hear such soul. Oh, down beside that red firelight.
[10:06] Can I try an opera voice? I'm curious how she'd sound doing bar... Baritone. Baritone or W-E. I.
[10:12] Don't know what W-E is
[10:16] I could do The Okay so you all know when you load up Bioshock there's a song That goes at the beginning Rise, rapture, rise We turn our hearts to this You know like.
[10:30] Yes I know what we played Bioshock Not too long ago Do it No Yes no maybe I'll try Rise Rise,
[10:43] Rapturize. We turn our hearts up to the skies. It's a little high. That's it? All right. Well, there's a second part, but it's from like a fan song.
[10:58] Ah, yes. What's the second part? Oh, is it rap? No. Okay, go. It's nice.
[11:16] Nice. Sorry, nice. That's a bit. That's Angelica's heck.
[11:19] Thank you.
[11:21] Now, the fact that you're singing is getting more praise in one show than I've gotten
[11:25] In 18 years. They've never heard me before.
[11:30] 99 Luftballons.
[11:31] Oh.
[11:33] You would do that somewhere, I think.
[11:34] You would do the German anthem. No, that's Russian.
[11:38] Oh, it's Russian, right. Deutschland, Deutschland, It's Germany Germany over everyone Oh that's
[11:47] Pretty sick It's kind of fire.
[11:51] You referencing Zuma memes is killing me She sounds like the woman from Evanescence Oh
[11:56] I kind of.
[11:56] That bring me back to life Yeah yeah That is a good song That's high though Yeah
[12:02] Let me hear it real quick, I'm gonna wreck my voice bro, Oh, that one. I've heard it in memes.
[12:16] Yes, you have, right?
[12:17] That's why I know it. I'm so uncultured.
[12:21] How does that go? Save me from the nothing I've become. Something like that, right?
[12:29] It's like, oh, can you see into my eyes? Wait, like open doors. Yeah. I was, yeah, struggling.
[12:41] One of the Queen songs we used to play was Bring up a charge of the love brigade Oh yeah,
[12:48] What's it called?
[12:49] There's spring in the air once again Millionaire Waltz Drink to the sound of the song parade There is music and love everywhere Give a little love to me
[13:03] I can't sing that after that Oh yeah I would butcher it Well done.
[13:10] Uh, that's, uh, that's a tough song to sing. Cause, uh, Freddie goes all kinds of falsetto in the seventies.
[13:14] Oh yeah. True.
[13:17] I'd sit alone. See radio Gaga in the queen at live aid. He literally is like Hitler commanding the audience. It's like, first we sing radio Gaga. Then we invade Poland next up. Cause he's got this intensity.
[13:29] Cause it was the first time they could see the audience. Cause it's always the lights. Right. So he's got like 60,000 people and it's the day he went nuts with that crowd because it's the first time really in forever and ever. Amen. That they could actually see the audience were doing their thing, so.
[13:43] Yeah.
[13:46] Try a Johnny Cash song.
[13:48] Who's Johnny Cash?
[13:49] Oh, uh, I fell into a burning ring of fire.
[13:54] I have no idea.
[13:56] Oh, Sting. Yeah, you don't really know any Sting songs, do you? No. No. The ring of fire, the ring of fire.
[14:04] Yo, that one song by Prince where he's like.
[14:07] Oh, yeah, yeah. You don't have to be beautiful to turn me on Wait,
[14:14] I think I got it Wait, how close can I get to the mic?
[14:19] You can go to, gosh, where you can go to? You can go to here
[14:23] I don't have to be.
[14:25] Beautiful Oh It's amazing what she can do with just holding onto a balloon And letting the air out a little bit Johnny Cash is okay, but Johnny Bitcoin is way better I fell into a flaming blockchain fire.
[14:42] Yeah.
[14:46] I remember when I was in a garage band, and it was, I tried, well, someone told me yesterday.
[14:56] Sting's got something like crazy, and that's so lonely is one of his highest songs. I don't know Nick Cave of the Bad Seeds. I don't really know their music. What you got? Do it.
[15:07] Very obscure. No one knows this song.
[15:10] Okay, I'm going to do the dance.
[15:11] You have to put your arms up. There once was a ship that put to sea, and the name of the ship was a Billy O.T. Wait, I started too high. There once was a ship that put to sea, and the name of the ship was a Billy O.T. The winds blew up, her bow dipped down. Oh, blow my bully boys blow. Soon may the well-o-men come to bring a sugar and tea and rum. One day when the tonguing is done We'll take our leave and go Go!
[15:43] I didn't mean to leave I know,
[15:44] I cut you off, you're welcome The Wellerman!
[15:47] Yeah! What is the Wellerman?
[15:49] That's the name of the song Oh.
[15:50] The Wellerman, okay, yeah,
[15:51] Yeah You vibed and you didn't even know, That's not it. No, I'm kidding. It's actually, it's just Wellerman without the the, so you're wrong. No, I'm kidding.
[16:08] All right. I'll give someone else while you come up with another song. We'll start a show soon.
[16:12] I don't have another song.
[16:13] You will come up with another song. All right, here we go.
[16:22] Well, did you hear about the Midnight Rambler? Everybody got to go did you hear about the midnight rambler the one that shut the kitchen door he don't give a hoot of a warning wrapped up in a black hat cloak he don't go in the light of the morning he split the time the cock will crow it's a great song no don't do that oh don't do that oh don't do that that's literally like don't oh don't do that oh don't do that oh don't do that well you heard about the boston honey it's not one of those i know it's a it's an interesting song based on the boston strangler i think and uh i'll stick yeah so it's uh it's a rough song anything what you got hold up what you got we're happy to take suggestions frankie valley uh what's that uh you um yeah we saw that on a cruise remember we saw that singing show on the cruise i think it was about frankie valley hold up all right it's it's one okay
[17:41] I got i.
[17:41] Got you got one okay
[17:46] It's beginning to look a-gyat like Christmas. Everywhere online. My Sigma level is maxed. Your food got phantom taxed. While the Skimney Rizzlers... I don't... It's beginning to look a-gyat like Christmas.
[18:08] Christmas!
[18:09] Baby... Wait, what? I don't remember that. I don't know what that means. I'm not saying it.
[18:14] Okay. It's fun to stay at the YMCA. It's fun to stay at the...
[18:22] You're welcome. I'm sorry, guys. I'm sorry I did that to you. I'm sorry. I'm going to take away my speaking privileges.
[18:29] We lost some kind of privileges there, right?
[18:31] I'm sorry. I think I just lost any ego or self-respect.
[18:36] I don't know any keen, but it sounds like I'd be enthusiastic for it. A keener.
[18:41] I'm so intelligent. Anyways. Yeah, never doing that again. My bad.
[18:48] So we didn't find any Taylor Swift songs, right? Do you know a Taylor Swift song?
[18:51] I don't know one. Do you want to do Uridale?
[18:53] Half a bit? Half a bit? No. Okay. All right. All right. Well, if people have questions or comments, Izzy is, I think the phrase is bored out of a gourd. A little bit. A little bit. Yeah. We're starting something tomorrow. So if you, can she do sad songs like I Hope You Dance?
[19:12] I'll look it up. I don't know.
[19:13] Oh, there's one song that I like that you know, why did you fall out of love with me? No, I can't name that song, right? I tried to expose her to some songs earlier today. I'm a big Alana Miles fan and Sunny Say You Will, I think that she didn't particularly like it, to put it mildly.
[19:32] Was not a fan. Sadly, I know. Anyways. Yeah, I'm hearing this song. I hope you did. It's a pretty song. Probably, but I can't sing it if I've never heard it before. I'm just listening now. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[19:51] You can't channel it through, right? Like an amp. She's a rich girl and she's gone too far, but you know it don't matter anyway. All right. So questions, comments for Izzy. If you have any questions about teens close to you the carpenters yeah so this is a woman karen carpenter an amazing drummer a fantastic vocalist but unfortunately she starved herself to death oh so uh she went from playing the sticks to being a stick to being in the ground lime in the coconut song oh can you can you look that one up lime in the coconut i
[20:25] Don't trust you i don't trust either you.
[20:33] Work all night and a drink a rum the one from the muppets lime and the coconut i vaguely think it but i'm not sure oh
[20:43] It's literally just the same like three.
[20:45] Lines no but is there lime in the coconut no
[20:48] There isn't that's why he's saying put the line.
[20:50] Can i hear the song
[20:54] No copyright.
[20:57] Okay, let's not do that. Piano Man, that's a lovely song. Bye, bye, Miss American Pie. All right. So, Izzy, do you experience envy of your father singing? I may have thrown a little bit in there.
[21:12] Honestly, maybe a bit. I mean, I think it's impossible to not experience any. But I'm not, like, one of these people where I go on social media and I'm like, oh, I wish I was there, or I wish I had that clothing, or I wish my hair color was that. Like so like a little bit but also like not really like everyone everyone does it but i don't think it's like extreme or extra i mean i'm a teenage girl i like impossible not to.
[21:33] When was the last time you remember feeling envy i
[21:39] Don't really think i know.
[21:40] No no
[21:41] I don't really remember when i feel stuff like if i'm feeling it i'll be like.
[21:46] You feel it in
[21:47] The moment now i'm envious but i don't like hmm i gotta remember.
[21:50] This right right um piano man that's a nice song sing us a song you're the piano man sing us a song tonight where we're all in the mood for a melody and you've got us feeling all right um i was into there's a um a black singer from america called harry belafonte he's the guy who did day oh day oh he i really got into his songs and he did one that's like a virus in the brain called coconut woman and every time like today we went to go pick up some coconut water every time i hear i pick up some coconut water a coconut woman is calling out and every day you can hear her shout coconut woman get the coconut water mighty good for your daughter and it just it sticks in my brain build me up buttercup why is that phrase from i know that one i don't know let's see here build me up buttercup i know that song oh it's a song that's because yeah in 1968 wow oh
[22:51] Yeah you'd know it.
[22:51] We were in a store today uh let me tell you about the trail of blood of and and uh all of that that happens when you have oh then i can move the mic again um yeah so the trail of blood is we go into a store today because my wife needed some tide pods uh i think for her tiktok channel just kidding nom
[23:11] Nom she's cooking dinner.
[23:12] But um Um, so there was a, uh, uh, a stand, right?
[23:17] Like a stand, a rotating stand, which is like, where were you on this year? And it was all like 1990, 2000. And I'm like, wow, we're going to have to spin around a lot to this. So Izzy spins all the way around to 1942 and says, oh, do you think they have anything younger? Just kidding. Can Izzy sing new Linkin Park with the female singer?
[23:38] Guys, I have no idea who Linkin Park is.
[23:40] I think it's L-I-N-K-I-N. I don't think it's C-O-L-N.
[23:43] I think that's how you spell it.
[23:45] Uh, Linkin Park?
[23:46] Yeah, I'm pretty sure.
[23:49] Oh, yeah, because there was a guy, Linkin Park. Yeah, I am.
[23:53] No, they're talking about the other one.
[23:54] Sorry, was I correct?
[23:55] They're talking about the other one.
[23:56] I believe I may.
[23:58] I was talking about Town of Stouffville.
[24:01] No, no, there was a Harry Chesterton. No, something, Chesterton or something was a singer, but he died. So they have a new singer, I guess. Linkin Park.
[24:10] Oh, that's interesting. I was talking about the town in Stouffville.
[24:14] Yes.
[24:15] I was talking, I think he was too, right? Joe Viva. You were talking about the town in Stouffville Yeah you.
[24:21] Were Wait the tarantula fingers of joy are currently dancing on my face Ah One too many tarantulas One too many tarantulas Alright for a song called Piano Man The guy in a harmonica is going to town I've seen that yeah Billy Joel yeah he's got a lot of great songs You used to like one we played younger What's the matter with the car I'm driving don't you know That it's out of style Something like that No,
[24:48] I meant Linkin Park. No, you didn't mean Linkin Park. You were right. The first time, you don't need to correct yourself. Yep.
[24:52] Joe, this is one of the few times where I will be donating to you.
[24:55] I'm kidding.
[24:56] A kidney. An absolute kidney.
[24:58] You're supposed to back me up.
[25:00] I want a refund now of all my donations to Stef. Oh, Stef, yeah, yeah, that's fair. I will absolutely, you know, just send me your email. Wait, why? Oh, because they came on my side against an all-knowing, omniscient teenage daughter whose brain is, like, faster than mine in some ways.
[25:16] So because they came to my aid, I now owe them donations.
[25:20] Oh, yes. Right.
[25:21] It is but fair. It is but fair. All right.
[25:27] I should vanish and let you do the show.
[25:29] I will do the show. I really do appreciate everyone to buy tonight. If you have questions...
[25:33] Amazing ventriloquism.
[25:35] I only accept bitcoins. Oh, I like how that's plural.
[25:38] Oh, yeah. Not even one. No, no. He's going to need like five for that one.
[25:42] Right, right. All right. Okay, well, thank you, everyone. If you have questions for easy, I'll collate them and we'll do them later. We did a hilarious show today on Gladiator 2. No, we didn't know. Sorry? No, I haven't sent it out yet. It'll go out tomorrow.
[25:53] But I really do appreciate that. thanks is thanks everyone for great comments and questions we will uh i will send to the mic uh also i'm a big harry connick fan and he's got some great sing-alongs to love the language you got to be born on the banks of the mississippi all right let us get ourselves back to our regularly scheduled slightly less musical philosophy and uh i am happy to take your questions comments issues challenges problems
[26:27] And see what's going on yeah i think bitcoin took a dip because there's some new absolute monster uh computer that's everyone's like oh that's just gonna crack bitcoin it's like no one no no not a bit not a bit of it uh look i mean if anything comes close to back cracking Bitcoin, they'll just fork it. Ah, fork it. They'll just fork it and it'll be fine. Nobody's going to let all these Bitcoins go into the ether because there's a powerful computer. It's not going to be able to crack it even as it stands. And if there is ever something that is going to crack Bitcoin, so it looks like it's about to, or even if there's a potential, they'll just upgrade the security so that it can't be cracked and they'll just do another fork. So, I guess, just crazy, right?
[27:21] Yeah, if it can crack Bitcoin, it can crack practically every other encryption, including your bank. Well, so these fears, they're all just to do with people who didn't live through Y2K, right? If you've gone through Y2K, and I was a coder, of course, and a chief technical officer in the lead up to Y2K, and we just did a whole bunch of stuff to make sure that we were ready for it. And of course, if you have more and more powerful computers that you're afraid are going to crack some encryption, then there are also more and more powerful computers available for encrypting. So anyway, it's just boomers are frightened of technology deep down. Facts, reasons, science and technology. Everything else they're comfortable with.
[28:05] So. Just too crazy. Just too crazy. All right, now...
[28:18] So let's get to your questions, issues, challenges, and problems. All right, let's get to your... If frequency of sex is important to me, should I allow a girlfriend to move in with me? Well, you will never have more sex in your life than in a loving, committed, monogamous relationship. Loving, committed, monogamous relationship. You will never have more sex in your life than being in a loving, committed, monogamous relationship. If you choose the woman based on her virtues, and she chooses you based upon your virtues, you will bang like Alex Lifeson's bottom foot. No, that's not it. Phil Collins' bottom foot. There you go. I don't know that many drummers. Alex Lifeson's guitarist. Neil Peart. There you go, Neil Peart. So, yeah, a frequency of sex is important, but don't move in with someone. Don't move in with someone. My God, that's trash. That's trash. I say this from experience. Stop playing house like you have eternity to live. Stop playing house like you have eternity to live, my friends.
[29:37] Put a ring on it or move on. Put a ring on the finger or move on. But don't just move in like you're just playing house, like some totally nerdy, oh, let's have a sleepover for five years and pretend we're in a serious relationship. Marriage is this ancient, powerful, almost mystical institution, which is the furnace of all human progress and the forge wherein our monster brains are created, right? Why do we need marriage? Because that which is more complex in nature takes longer to develop. We need marriage because we take forever for our brains to mature, which is why we have such big brains.
[30:22] So marriage is an ancient furnace that has produced the very soul and genius of the species, of mankind.
[30:31] It is not just roommates with sex. It is a deep and powerful committed bond to raise the next generation to pass along culture. It is the very essence of civilization, which is why when you want to destroy a civilization you go after the marriage you go after marriage as a whole and you cheapen it right Stef did you see on x how many women and men want to bang the Luigi guy hey he's a Luigi yeah so this is the guy who shot that uh health insurance CEO yeah uh can you explain more on uh forking
[31:12] So, forking is when you use a new code base. Good enough to sleep with, but not good enough to marry. Oh, it's very sad. A woman experiences you living with her as you lust after her flesh, but do not like her soul. This is how a woman will experience it.
[31:44] That you lust after her flesh, but you do not like her soul.
[31:53] So, let's see here. Isn't advocating modern marriage supporting a serious NAP violation involving state power? Well, the government's going to take your freedom as a kid by locking you in trash schools. The government's going to take half your money as an adult through threats? And are you really going to let the government take marriage from you as well? I mean, don't give up anything to the powers that be that you don't absolutely have to. You don't have to give up marriage. Why would you give up marriage? Marriage is the most beautiful and deep and powerful thing in the world. And why would you give it up. Just become some mucky bureaucrats invented a marriage license. The left hates Daniel Perry and loves the Luigi guy. Yeah. Leftism is a massive cloak and camouflage for violence. I'm sure I don't have to tell you guys that as a whole, right? Leftism is a massive intellectual edifice and superstructure to cover up the reality of violence.
[33:07] Somebody wrote, my father texted me this earlier and I'm not sure what to think. Quote, the only way to fix problems within oneself is to forgive all the people that have done you wrong in the past. What are your thoughts? Stef.
[33:24] Jared says, I listened to Stef about no cohabitation before marriage when I was dating, even though it was inconvenient and frustrating. I am now married to a wonderful virtuous woman and could not be happier yeah i tried both there is no comparison there is no comparison
[33:45] You have one of those little trundle, low-down tri-wheels or tripod tricycles, low-wheeled, big tricycles with the plastic tires as a kid. That's the difference between that and an F1 formula racer. That's the difference between cohabitation and marriage. Yeah, so, I mean, the government license was instituted to prevent blacks from marrying whites. That's what government licenses it for. It's a legacy, of course, of racism. So here, sorry, the guy whose father wrote, and of course, sorry, I forgot to mention, tips and donations more than massively and humbly and deeply and gratefully accepted, freedomain.com slash donate, or you can tip right here on the app.
[34:33] So the father who texted, the only way to fix problems with him oneself is to forgive all the people that have done you wrong in the past.
[34:47] Do you really think that anyone who doesn't deeply thirst after the unearned would command unearned forgiveness? It's just a con. It's not even a complicated con. Everybody who says, give me the unearned is shielding a threat. Is shielding a threat. They are covering up an incipient threat. You owe me that which I have not earned is it's the fist coming back. It's the cocking of the gun, right? It's the copping of the gun. Cocking of the gun. So, yeah, it's really sad. Why would he want the unearned? You could as easily say And more justly say The only way to fix problems within oneself Is to Scorn and reject those Who don't earn your forgiveness
[36:01] You don't do anybody any favors by giving them that which they have not earned. You do not do anyone... I mean, to provide the unearned is one of the most subtle and dangerous forms of sabotage known to God, man, or devil. To provide someone the unearned. If you say to a woman, I love you, when you in fact only lust after her, you are destroying her soul. If you pretend to forgive people without requiring that they earn your forgiveness, you are destroying their soul. If you give people money when they have shown no desire or inclination to put it to good use,
[36:48] You are destroying their soul. The only reason that people demand forgiveness is they're lazy bastards who don't want to earn forgiveness for the wrongs that they've done. And if your father texts you and says, you got to forgive everyone. Okay. Was that his philosophy when you were a child? Was it, was it, was it, was that his philosophy when you were a child? When you did something wrong, did he just say, I'm forgiving, you're forgiven already. You're forgiven already. You're forgiven already. Nope. Parents punish when they have the power, and then, by gosh, thank you, Adam, they punish when they have the power, and then what they do is then, when they don't have the power anymore, they say, oh, no, no, you see, you see, it's, it's, it's, life is all about forgiveness. That's what you should forgive. You gotta, you gotta forgive.
[37:44] Yeah, yeah yeah come on i mean this is as credible as the endless scenes in movies where the good guy is held or the bad guy's got the gun and he's over the good guy and then the good guy wrestles the gun and suddenly he's like the bad guy's like hey man no news violence we got to talk about this it's just because he lost control of the gun that's all nothing's changed a lot of parents are really brutal on kids when the kids are little and then when the kids get older and independent And, oh, don't you know how the turns have tabled, how the turntables have flipped in that? No, no, now you see, while I punished you like hell when you were little, now that you're older and you have power. Do you know what? It's really important that you just forgive people and forgiveness is the virtue and blah, blah, blah. Just God is gross. All right. Somebody says, I recall you saying that legal marriage has only been around for less than 10% of human existence. Prior to that, human beings have pair bonded without the institution of marriage. Maybe cohabitation is not that bad and no concerns of the state being involved in your relationship.
[38:47] So are you defining marriage as a piece of paper from the state? Yeah. Your words have no power here, my friend. We are voluntarists. Problem is how freaking horny you are in your 20s. If you were that horny later in life, you would never accomplish anything. Right. But the purpose of being horny in your 20s, and I'm not saying it does change much later in life, but the purpose of being horny in your 20s is so that you will go for the maximum sexual experience, which is a loving, pair-bonded marital relationship. My wife and I are expecting a third child, and we have two beautiful daughters, and everyone we tell says the same thing. Hope this one's a boy. I find it funny that everyone desires a baby boy, yet treat boys and men like shit, as full-grown people. Yeah, it's very, very sad. Very sad, very sad. My father's comments on forgiveness was in reference to his abusive ex-wife and my abusive mother. I can't see how I could forgive a woman who made me hate myself.
[39:50] You must be new here. Welcome to the place where we destroy sentiment with morality. You must be new here. Your father's comment on forgiveness was absolutely not in reference to his abusive ex-wife and my abusive mother. Your father's comment was in reference to the fact that he gave abusive women dominion over his helpless and dependent children. That he failed to protect you in every way, shape, and form. That's all. These women were not assigned to him by fate or God or the universe or anything like that. These women were chosen by him as the mothers of his children.
[40:54] So.
[41:07] All right. Stef, the slippery slope fallacy has been completely discredited in my view. Well, you can't reference the slippery slope fallacy in the modern world, or at least I'd strongly suggest you don't, without talking about statism, right? Because statism is that which causes the slippery slope fallacy to become real. Because normally,
[41:49] It's the best way to put this. I want to gather my metaphorical instincts and focus them laser-like in the direction of this.
[42:04] Well if you are paid a thousand dollars an hour for filling in a deep hole will you ever fill it in no you don't want to be finished right i sort of say this to my daughter when we're driving around and there's all this endless construction i say why is there all this construction now she's wise enough to know it's like well it's the government job so they want to just keep it going and sure yeah Yeah, for sure. So the revolution ends when its goals are achieved, but the goal of the revolution in statism is to continue the problem, right? I was trying to explain to Izzy how relatively close we were to not really having to deal with the question or have that as a central focus in society the question of racism, particularly after the O.J. Simpson trial. There was a real diminishment in the issue of racism. And because classism has failed, because generally people got wealthier, sexism was doing all right, but sexism is too slow because sexism, you know, men are sexist pigs. That's all about diminishing the next generation. For the people who wanted a bloodlust in the here and now,
[43:31] You've got to get your racism, right? You've got to get your racism. So we were close to solving the problem of racism, which was a meritocracy, live and let live, and learning to look at sort of colorblind society. Then Obama came along and it all sort of stoked up. And you can see this, you know, racism, white supremacy, all this stuff just getting cranked up through the media and in particular through academia. So academia is not about instructing people. academia is about disrupting society, turning people against each other and provoking. There's a lot of sadists in academia who love provoking fights. You know, the people who get involved in real fights are damaged enough, but the people who provoke fights in others are some of the most crazy and dangerous people on the planet. Just the most crazy, you know, like this, this situation with Daniel Penny, right? That he restrained this black drug addict who had been in and out of jail many, many, many times, had been offered, you know, we'll give you a place to stay, we'll give you rehab, and he left off for a couple of days. And of course, you know, there's all these people who were like, well, if the races were reversed, and it's like, well, the races were reversed. There was a white drug addict who attacked someone, and the black guy killed him, and the black guy wasn't charged because it was considered to be self-defense.
[45:00] So, yeah, just people who just love storing up conflict. They love watching people fight. They love, love, love. I mean, and you know where this comes from. It comes from the parental instinct to set siblings against each other so they don't focus on the corruption of the parents, right? So...
[45:20] So the slippery slope fallacy is if the government is paying for activists, then they will never achieve their goals. Of course not. Why would they? So they just have to continue to invent new problems so that they can continue to get that sweet government money. So the slippery slope fallacy is, well, you know, we thought we'd fill this hole up, but it turns out when we pay people $1,000 a day to fill up a hole, then the hole never gets filled. Oh my God, look, there's another hole. oh my God, there's another hole. Oh my God, look at those giant holes. They're everywhere because you get paid for filling in holes. So you're just going to, in the middle of the night, dig more holes so that you can keep getting the money to fill them in. Because you don't, if you pay people for a process rather than a result, the process will never end and will escalate. Like if you said to people, well, racism is when races are treated unequally by the law and we want to resolve that. and then you end up with laws that are colorblind, then you would have solved that problem. But if you say, well, you know, racism is anytime there's inequality between ethnicities in outcomes and so on, well, it's never going to end, right?
[46:39] So the slippery slope fallacy is only being revealed as a fallacy because of state power. Because of state power, right? so if you have the lgbtq or whatever right if you have the gay agenda and they say well we want to reduce uh legal inequalities between straight people and gay people okay at some point that's sort of achieved and then what what do they do just all go home nope they want that sweet government money so they have to say there's more and more and more that needs to be done what was it matthew shepherd there was supposed to be this hate crime turned out he was just ran afoul in a drug deal and all that. So you just have to, you know, keep generating problems because you're being paid to solve them, right? All right. The two cock. Two cock. Cock. Cock. Cock.
[47:35] So what you do is if someone says, two cock is something like if someone says you shouldn't spank your kids and then they spank their own kids, you say, oh, that discredits your argument, right? So people try this with Ayn Rand and they say, well, Ayn Rand was against government subsidies, and yet she took her old age pension, social security, and therefore her arguments are fallacious.
[48:01] And it's not actually really a fallacy. It's not actually really a fallacy, right? I mean, I've used this argument. It's not a fallacy in that it disproves people. It doesn't technically disprove an argument, right? So you can say, don't spank your kids, spanking is wrong, and you can still spank your kids. Technically, technically, it does not disprove your argument, but who cares, right? All that the Tukoc fallacy does is it says, here's who to not listen to. Here's, just ignore this person. Forget about it. Like, come on. I mean, you go to the bookstore, and you're looking for a diet book, and then you see, you know, all these skinny abd guys, right? Extra some gladiator. And then there's a big fat guy with a diet book, right? A big fat guy on the cover. Now, the fact that he's fat doesn't technically mean that his diet is invalid. It's just that you won't listen to him. It's an efficiency thing. It's not a fallacy in terms of technically somebody who's a hypocrite could still be right. It just means that you don't listen to them. Because why would you want to listen to someone who doesn't even believe himself right so because either the fat guy has followed his own diet in which case it's a bad diet or he hasn't followed his own diet in which case he doesn't care about dieting so why is he writing a book right so
[49:25] I don't have any particular thoughts on Terence McKenna. I just have him categorized vaguely as a mystic and a drug user. And not just a drug user, but a drug pusher that he recommended it. So yeah, it's pretty terrible.
[49:46] Yeah, it's terrible stuff. It's just terrible, horrible, appalling, wretched stuff. so yeah he's done uh of course he's done more harm than good yeah of course
[50:02] So yeah it's like that smoker guy who told you not to smoke yeah i would i listen to him or sorry my like my friends around the theater school table at lunch well we got these really good subs for two bucks anyway all right uh tips welcome a little bit low tonight but i would certainly appreciate, uh, the, uh, the tips and the support for the show. That would be loverly. The police didn't even want to give Jordan Neely CPR because he looked in such bad shape. Yes. Now, I don't know if the police are doing a whole lot of CPR. I was reading someplace that they sort of gave that up decades ago. I don't know what the facts are, but, you know, the problem is not Daniel Penny, obviously. I mean, he was trying to do the right thing. The problem is that people don't stay in jail. They just don't stay in jail. They just get let out and let out and let out and let out all the time, all the time, all the time, all the time, right?
[51:10] So if you keep letting the the criminals out of jail, they'll keep committing crimes and you can't fix them, right? Huh.
[51:31] Now, let me ask you this. Let me ask you this, because I am keen and happy. Oh, you know, good questions. All right. Slam dunk Stef, I never thought of how Mission Creep and the Slippery Slope are related. Yeah, for sure. I'll be donating on payday later this week. Thank you very much. I appreciate that. Stef, please share your thoughts. No. Yes. You talked about low-trust society. This is new to me and make sense. During COVID, I thought that the social contract was being broken. Is this related to low trust? I was never taught this stuff in school. Were these two ideas ever part of common thinking? Seems like they are unknown now. Thank you, sir. I don't know what you're asking. During COVID, I thought that the social contract was being broken. Well, that's because what do you mean the social contract? What social contract? What social contract are you referring to.
[52:27] I did a show many years ago called The Social Contract Defined and Destroyed in Less Than One Minute. And I put a little timer down there and defined and destroyed the social contract theory in 58 seconds or so. What social contract? Your fucking neighbors? You think there's a social contract? Your neighbors are chasing vanity, clout, and obedience, right? There's a great A quote from Michael Malice, like a social credit score is the one thing that mediocrities and NPCs like because the one thing they can effectively compete on is obedience. People will do what they're told. People will do what they're taught. I mean, you've seen these Milgram experiments, right?
[53:14] The majority of people will kill someone if someone in a white lab coat tells them to. Well, don't even tell them to. says blandly, well, the experiment has to continue. And they'll dial up the sharks. They'll literally maim and kill people if they're told to. That's not by accident. You're not surrounded by people, you're surrounded by programs.
[53:42] Remote activated obedience robots. That's most, not everyone, right? But that's most of who you're surrounded by. They will turn on you if they're told to. If they're told by guys in white coats that you pose a danger to them, they'll turn on you. This is not a mystery. This should not confuse you. I've been talking about this for years and years and years and decades and decades and decades, ever since I first read about these horrifying experiments. They are not loyal to you. They are not loyal to virtue. They will not think for themselves.
[54:19] And they will turn on you if they're told to, right? I mean, in East Germany, massive, massive percentages of people turned on and informed on their neighbors. And when the Americans had a sniper program in Vietnam, and they said, you tell us who the spies in Viet Cong are, and we'll go kill them for you. Well, a lot of people just settled debts and old grudges, and this guy slept with my wife, and they just, oh, yeah, he's a spy. And they basically had free legal hired killers, and they just turned on each other. Like, people are really fucking dangerous. You know this, right? You guys know this. People are really dangerous. And I talked about this during COVID. You know, if you have, if you think for yourself, you better fucking surround yourself with people who think for themselves. Otherwise, you're not going to go, it's not going to go well for you.
[55:16] It's not going to go well for you. It's not going to go well for you. You have to, and I'm telling you, if you're a free thinker, you have to look at everyone in your life and say, if they were offered half a million dollars to lie about me and get me in trouble, would they take it? Better fucking think of these things, man. You better think of these things. This is a trust issue, right? Who do you trust? Who's around you? Now, COVID, of course, they weren't, I mean, people lined up for DNA mystery juice for a fucking donut and a pat on the back, right?
[55:54] So you got to look at everyone around you. If you're a free thinker, look at everyone around you, man. If somebody offered them half a million dollars to lie about you, ooh, did he ever say a bad word? Did he ever do a bad thing? Did he, right? You understand? Like, you better be fucking secure in your relationships. And I'm not kidding about this in any way, shape, or form. You better be secure in your relationships. This is why I've continually told people, you don't have to have abusers in your life, and that's not just psychological. If people are really angry, pissed off, and secretly hate you because you confronted them or you made them look bad or whatever, and then some skeevy guy in some authority code comes along and says, yeah, I heard that he did a bad thing or said a bad thing or whatever, right? Or let's say you're accused of some crime and someone says it's your alibi and that person doesn't like you. Well, they say, no, I wasn't with him. Who around you will stand with you when the bad guys come a-calling, as they often do? Doesn't have to be state power. Doesn't have to be the police.
[57:11] Could be any number of things or people.
[57:22] I mean, you had neighbors, right? You had neighbors in COVID who were regularly calling the authorities because someone had three cars in the driveway, right? So, yeah, I mean, even in a relatively free society, you wouldn't want a whole lot of corrupt, abusive people who disliked you intensely. You wouldn't want a whole bunch of those people around, right? But in a time where there's quite a lot of escalation in these kinds of things, right? Someone's going to come along and say, I'm going to lie about this person. I'm going to make things up. I'm going to make them look bad. I'm going to falsify things. Trust me, man.
[58:23] I'm not talking theoretically here. So do you have people in your life who will go to the wall to defend and protect you?
[58:39] People are often happily paid to lie. And a lot of people will just do it for free because they like it. They like having the power and that attention. Right? So let's say that there are people in your life and let's say that they were offered a book deal and lots of time on TV to say you were a bad guy. Right? Would they take it? Someone came along, right? Someone came along to someone you, quote, care about or who, quote, cares about you. And they said, you know, we heard these really bad things about Bob, if your name's Bob, right? And we heard these really bad things about Bob. You know, if you could confirm them, man, we're going to get you on TV. We're going to do all of these great things. You get a book tour, you'll make a lot of money. But man, if you don't tell the truth about this Bob the bad guy, you don't confirm this, you know, well, you know, we're going to just start having to look in. We're going to have to start looking into you, man, because if you're like Bob, you've probably got some skeletons in your closet, so you've got the carrot and the stick, right? Do you have people in your life who will stand by you, no matter the pressure that's put upon them?
[1:00:05] I mean, this could be a make-or-break, happy-or-sad, life-or-death decision.
[1:00:20] These are facts. These are facts. These are facts not in dispute. These are facts not in dispute. This isn't a maybe. This is an experiment. These Milgram experiments have been replicated all over the world between men and women in many different languages over many different decades and it's always pretty much the same thing. That the significant, if not vast majority of people, will kill strangers if they're told to. What if the person who lied about you is your child in a parental alienation circumstance, the child as a teenager? Oh, my friend. First of all, I'm sorry for that situation, but I'm trying to help the world here, and you're making about your messed up situation.
[1:01:17] I'm trying to help the world here, and you're trying to make it about your messed up situation. Parental alienation circumstance, who did you choose to have a kid with? Who did you choose to have a kid with?
[1:01:37] If you chose a corrupt and evil woman to have a child with, then you have put a child in a horrible, horrible situation, And you're still making it about you. There may be more to learn on your journey, my friend. There may be more to learn on your journey. Stop making things about you. Because you're trying to get agreement in, oh my gosh, you know, the woman who I had a child with is really, really terrible, awful, bad, and nasty, right? That's your argument. What about me? Well, I have this circumstance, right? Well, why do you have this circumstance? Why do you have this circumstance? Because you chose, I assume, to have a child with a corrupt, lying, dangerous woman, right?
[1:02:41] If it's genuine parental alienation and you're a good guy and this and that and the other, right?
[1:02:54] Yeah, there's a lot of people who use gossip as currency, absolutely, right? I mean, everyone, I think everyone's been in that situation at one time or another where you tell someone something in confidence and the next thing you know, it's all over the place, right? Stef, why is it easy for me? It's so easy, but I can't do it. Why is it easy for me to see the causes of other people's problems clearly, but not my own?
[1:03:23] Because we have outsourced our conscience to others. You cannot have a good conscience unless you are surrounded by good people because bad people will enable you and lie about things and falsify things and drive you crazy and so on, right? So we, as a social animal, nothing we do really is isolated. We are dogs, not cats. So that means that our conscience is partly outsourced to other people, which is why you can't be virtuous if you're surrounded by corrupt people, at least not consistently virtuous, right? So you can see the causes of other people's problems because that's your job. Your job is to be their conscience for them, and their job is to be, or at least help your conscience for you, which is why if you have moral people in your life, they'll help keep you on the straight and narrow, the difficult path to virtue. And if you have corrupt people in your life, they will fuck you up, destroy your conscience, and lead you to hell. You can't choose your morality independent of the people around you.
[1:04:26] You cannot choose your morality independent of the people around you, which is why I went through this whole process when I finally did really put morals into practice. I did the big swap out, right? Swapping out the corrupt people, in my view, and bringing in the virtuous people. And now,
[1:04:44] I can relax about my conscience because I have honest people in my life who are going to tell me the truth. So, yeah, we're designed that way. We're designed to see other people's problems easier than our own. And we're designed to be surrounded by people, if you want to be moral, who can see our issues and hypocrisies. I mean, boy, you want to find out about your own hypocrisies, just have a teenager around. They'll point out every single inconsistency that you have. And that is a purifying, cleansing fire. the last of my piccadillos are being washed away through my daughter's directness and it's a beautiful thing i'm not saying it's always an easy thing but it's a beautiful thing back to your comment on the number of quality people around low numbers yeah yeah i mean this is not even an optional thing these days it's not even an optional thing these days hi Stef does trusting yourself involve giving up doing things out of obligation and waiting for desire? What does trusting oneself and one's instincts entail? Giving up doing things out of obligation and waiting for desire. Okay, so obligation and desire are two internal states, right? Am I obligated to do this? Do I want to do this? But when you're in relationships, you don't
[1:06:12] Reference ever only your own desires ever ever right i was talking to a guy the other day and this will be a call-in show so i'll keep it brief because it'll go out i'm sure at some point soon but i was talking to a guy and he was like well you know but my wife just wants to do what she wants to do and I said well she can't do what she wants to do Why can't she do what she wants to do? Why can't she just do what she wants to do? And we went back and forth quite a lot. Hey, James, we went back and forth quite a lot, and I finally had to give him the answer because he couldn't get it. It's like, well, she can't do what she wants to do because she's married. Right? You can't do what you want to do because you're married.
[1:07:08] It's not complicated. If you go to a new town or a new country and you say, hey, I need a cell phone and you go to the mall and you get a cell phone you sign a contract and they hand you a free phone but you got to sign up for two years can you do what you want to do? No!
[1:07:33] Because they want the phone back if you don't pay your bill because they use part of your two years of bills to pay for the phone, right? You don't get to do what you want. If you lease a car, you don't get to sell the car. It's not yours. You're just leasing it. Even if you rent it, you can't sell it. When you're in a relationship, you don't get to do what you want to do. You negotiate it. So it's a little, pardon my French, it's a little self-obsessed to say, well, the only thing that matters is my sense of obligation and waiting for my own desire.
[1:08:08] You know i signed up for uh my cell phone uh for two years i got a free cell phone or rather subsidized through my monthly payments should i pay out of obligation that i feel or should i pay just because i want to it's like well you pay because you signed up you pay because you made a promise and if you don't pay you're a thief if you get a free cell phone pay one month and then take off you just stole a cell phone
[1:08:47] Doing things out of obligation? When you don't think of those terms, obligation and desire, you're free. You're free. And that's called commitment, right? I made a commitment 20, almost 23 years ago. I made a commitment to my wife that we're going to treat each other beautifully. We're going to be monogamous and we're going to be healthy and virtuous. And grow and treat each other with love and respect. So you make that commitment.
[1:09:27] So do I stay married out of obligation or just wait for desire? That's all internal. Do you see what I mean? Screw your feelings, man. Do you think that I got into philosophy for the fun of it? Don't get me wrong, there's fun in it. No, I just made a commitment. I just made a commitment. Because desire is going to change. And you can talk yourself in and out of obligations. Well, I don't feel like paying my cell phone bill this month. Okay, then go and hand your cell phone back and go through that process. And that's fine. I don't want to pay for my car anymore. Okay, then call the dealership and say, well, this car rental is not working out for me. What do I have to do? There's probably a penalty to get out of it that was in the fine print you signed at the beginning. So, I mean, what the hell do your feelings have to do with any of it? Should I exercise because of my internal sense of obligation or out of desire? No, you just exercise because it's a good thing to do.
[1:10:35] Right? It's just so much easier when you go off commitment and honor rather than obligation and desire, because those are emotional states that are highly variable. This afternoon, I was tired. I did a lot of work today and I just, you know, get a little tired. So I sort of laid down for about 20 minutes or whatever and had a little rest, which was nice. And then I got up, I'm like, you know, I got to get my energy back for the show. So I hit the weights, right? Did I want to? Nope. What does it matter? What does it matter? This idea that we have to just want to do things, I find kind of incomprehensible. Because you rely, you know, hey, look at that. I got some electricity in the studio here. That's kind of nice. I got electricity. Is the electricity provided for some emotional obligation or is the electricity provided because of desire? It's like, no, they just, I pay them and they provide the electricity. If I don't pay them, they stop providing the electricity. If I don't, and if they stop delivering the electricity, I guess I'll go solar or something like that, right? But you just, you make a vow, you have your integrity and that's what you do. You don't reference what, you don't reference your feelings
[1:11:56] Because you can't have integrity if it's about your feelings. You sign on the dotted line. You sign. They only give you the car because you're going to pay the fucking lease. Not, I'll see how I feel this month. If you said, well, you know, I'll take the car. I'll pay you 600 bucks a month. You can say it's for 48 months, But if I don't feel that sense of obligation If I don't have a desire to pay it I just won't But they won't give you the car You only get this shit like a car or a cell phone Because you're not going to be Dependent upon your emotional whims and moods At the moment You sign on the dotted line So that's what you do That's your obligation If you want to call it that That's your commitment What do your feelings matter They don't matter
[1:12:54] I'll be honest with you, I got up on stage and gave speeches when I thought there were five lasers pointed at my forehead, and not the fun cat kinds either. Was that desire? Well, I had a certain desire, like, fuck you, I'm going to go do it. But I just made a commitment to do it, so I was going to do it. I mean, I'm not saying ignore your feelings. They're there. I'm not saying ignore them. but the idea that your feelings would dictate your decisions is incomprehensible. That's giving the feelings way too much power. Feelings are there to inform, not dictate. Feelings are like your consultants, right? They're like the advisors to the king, right? The king has to finally make his own decision. Now you can listen to the advisors, but eventually it's your decision, right?
[1:13:49] So again, I'm sorry if I've missed something obvious. I am sorry if I've missed something obvious.
[1:13:57] But, it would seem to me that referencing your feelings as the foundation for keeping your commitments is a little incomprehensible to me.
[1:14:12] You know, when I was in the business world, and we made a commitment to deliver a product, that's just what we did. It wasn't anything to do with my desire, or like, I guess you could say my desire is to make payroll or something like that. All right. How do poor people find quality people to have their backs as neighbors? All my neighbors are druggies and ex-felons. Don't trust them. Well, you move. Get away from Trash Planet. See, like attracts like. Neighborhoods are like other people in the neighborhoods, and you can't find a gourmet meal in a trash heap. You got to move. You got to move. You got to move. How can this be applied to important choices related to family slash friends slash relationships? People often say they get gut feelings, for example, but what if you don't get any? This is really helpful. Thank you. I think I'm giving my feelings too much power. I mean that's we have philosophy because feelings are fallible right feelings are ancient we share them with animals instincts are ancient we share them with animals nothing wrong with the instincts it's what we build things on but the purpose of a house is not its foundation the purpose of its house is shelter and comfort the foundations are necessary but not sufficient feelings are necessary but not sufficient for it for for happiness for virtue right so you have a moral commitment. You have a rational commitment.
[1:15:41] And you take note of your feelings. That's important. I noted that I did not want to go to do the weights before the show. I did not want to do it. Really didn't want to do it. And it wasn't like, oh, well, I've made an obligation, so I'll make myself do it. Or I'm going to wait till I feel like doing it. It's like, no, I mean, I just, I have made a commitment. I've made a commitment to you guys. We're really serious about it. this, right? I've made a commitment to you guys and to the world to show up. I can't tomorrow, so I show up tonight and made a commitment.
[1:16:16] And my feelings are welcome to inform me of my emotional relationship to that commitment, but they're sure as fuck not free to overturn it. So I wanted to get my energy up. So I hit the weights pretty hard and my energy got up because I have a commitment. I ask for donations. You guys have supported me for years. It is foundationally important to me to show your generosity and your support and your kindness, the respect that it is due. I have sustained, and particularly you guys, Let's be real deep and frank here right now, particularly you guys who are here after the smoking Krakatoa Nagasaki crater of my former life.
[1:17:10] You guys came, picked up my shattered self, put me on a stretcher, under fire, and carried me to safety. You don't think I'm going to hit some weights to make for a better show, a better conversation? Of course I am, because I'm so deeply and humbly grateful for all the support that you've given me over these many, many, many years and manifestations of what it is that I do. If you weren't here, I couldn't do what I do. I couldn't. You know, I was just talking to someone the other day about how I don't generate as much as I used to, except the responses that I'm generating to the questions I personally feel are better than ever, which is great because I have more things to stretch for. But I haven't come up with my last big giant theory like UPB or RTR or something. That's not something that I'm generating at the moment. May come back. It's not something I'm generating. But you guys give me these questions and these comments I think is sparking some fantastic stuff in these conversations I'm incredibly grateful for that so I'm not going to drag my ass in here half sodden with half sleep and just mumble my way through I want to do that because I made a commitment why does it matter what I feel about it I'm aware that I didn't want to go and do the weights before doing the show tonight I'm aware of that but it's not relevant it's not relevant
[1:18:35] So, I hope that helps. So, going out of only desire is low conscientiousness.
[1:18:43] Well, it's living like an animal, right?
[1:18:56] The guy who invented the blue LED, light-emitting diode, made a commitment to invent the thing everyone else said was almost impossible. His commitment changed the world. Oh, there's a documentary. The dude spent like 20 years, seven days a week on that project. Yeah, I mean, I did 20 plus years of philosophy before it went public, right? Somebody says, it sort of feels like my feelings are dictating me rather than me dictating my feelings. Right now, I have an IFS therapist and it's pretty great and a challenge. But why dictate either way? Your feelings are informing you, right? So there was an inertia that said to me, I don't want to go do the weights before the show. I'm kind of tired, right? And now, of course, I've been doing these kinds of exercises, I don't know, like 42 years or whatever, right? So I know that if I do the exercises, I'll gain an energy, get my blood moving and all that. So I'll gain an energy. So I know that. So I'm like, oh, yeah, now I get it. we're tired. We're tired, for sure. I understand that. I sympathize with that. But we've got to go exercise, right? Oh, just don't. Don't bother. It's like, no, no, come on. These guys have supported me. I'm going to ask for donations. I need to do a good quality show that means something to people, that adds value to their lives. The best way to do that is to exercise before the show. So, yeah, feelings are like the tide. They rise and subside. Yeah, for sure.
[1:20:25] Do you do vocal exercises that they taught you in acting class like where you knuckle drag around your nose sinus and do different mouth movements i do when i give a public speech i do when i give a public speech so um i remember when i was doing a night for freedom back in 2018 20 something like that in new york uh i i i call it making friends with the space so when i was i I was going to give a speech. So I got up on the stage and I went through the speech and I introduced myself to the space. And I, you know, it's kind of a mystical thing in a way, although not irrational, like you make friends with the space so that you feel like you own it and you're not just visiting. And it's almost like marking your territory. So I paced around the stage and I ran through the speech a couple of times in my head, figured out the size of the gestures that I could use, because with a bigger crowd, you need more gestures. With a smaller crowd, it's more intimate. So I do all of that sort of stuff when I'm giving a public speech, but a little less so here because I am friends with this space already.
[1:21:24] Was choosing to be with your wife a commitment, an illogical choice, or a gut feeling? Well, gut feelings change, don't they? You always walked very confidently to the stage. Yes, because I had already made friends with the stage. I had already marked my territory. I want the stage to be mine, not something rented or something borrowed or blue. Like, I want the stage to be mine, my space. I own it, right? And so to get out there, you've got to mark your territory ahead of time. That's the animal side of us, right? So choosing to be with your wife a commitment and a logical choice or a gut feeling uh choosing to be with my wife was a celebration of maximum virtue you know she is by far the most virtuous person that i know by far so why wouldn't you want to be with someone like that it's the greatest thing around.
[1:22:23] And she's kind, but she's not sentimental kind. She's like rational, productive kind.
[1:22:30] All right, let me ask you this. Let me ask you this, because we haven't done current events for a while, and I don't even know if you guys are that interested in current events. Thank you, met, but let me ask you this. Let me ask you this. Are you interested in the CEO murder? Didn't you meet her at a tennis club? No. It was playing volleyball. It was playing volleyball. Are you interested in the CEO murder? Just out of curiosity. If you are, we can talk about it a little bit. If you're not, we don't have to at all. So hit me with a why if you are interested. Otherwise, I'm happy to take a couple more questions.
[1:23:29] I don't know if this is true, but somebody wrote Indian home beauty startup. Yes, madam, sent a survey to their employees about stress and then fired the employees that said they were under significant stress. Dear team, recently we conducted a survey to understand your feelings about stress at work. Many of you shared your concerns, which we deeply value and respect. As a company committed to fostering a healthy and supportive work environment, we have carefully considered the feedback. To ensure that no one remains stressed at work, we have made the difficult decision to part ways with employees who indicated significant stress. This decision is effective immediately, and impacted employees will receive further details separately. Thank you for your contributions. Best regards. But that's, I don't know, it doesn't sound true, maybe it is true, but it was, it's pretty wild. I hope that was pretty funny. Pretty funny.
[1:24:27] All right, December 9th, let me just see here, I had a bookmark here, with all of this stuff, and I wanted to know about it. Let me just check your thoughts on it.
[1:24:53] You like current events? You wish to uh to know so luigi mangioni mangioni uh was you know uber wealthy guy uh or uber wealthy family right very like seriously wealthy family and he went to a private school that was, what was it? It was like $40,000 a year. And he was, what was it, in 98? He was the valedictorian, right? He was a valedictorian and obviously a brilliant guy. He's got abs, right? He's got abs and all of that, and was a good-looking guy, athletic and smart, charismatic his friends all thought he was a great guy and
[1:25:57] One thing happened from what i can tell you know he's not charged i mean he's i don't know if he's been charged or not so this is all into the alleged thing right this is all the alleged stuff right but if it is the guy that people think it is and it probably is but if it is then what happened was he was in Hawaii and he had he had a back issue I think to begin with and then when he was in Hawaii he had a surfing accident that messed up his back now my friends hit me with a why have you had in your life back issues?
[1:26:41] Have you got back issues? Fortunately, you know, knock wood, no back issues for me. I mean, obviously I work out, but obviously I've been lucky too. Like I've done, you know, skiing and other stuff. I did a lot of dirt biking when I was younger, snowmobiling. I worked up north. So I just happened to have not been injured. Some luck, some genetics, some hard work, and so on. But back injuries are just hell in general. They're just hell.
[1:27:17] So he had a back injury. He was surfing in Hawaii. And after that, things went incredibly downhill, right? So there's this, I don't know if you know this, there's this whole subculture. I'm sure James, you know a little bit more about this than I do. But there's this whole subculture of people with back injuries and their incredibly frustrated, intense relationship with mainstream medicine. Like I've heard people say, oh yeah, my father was an orthopedic surgeon. And he said, don't let people cut open your back, whatever you do, it never goes well. And you hear these people, oh, he had a back issues, he had 19 surgeries, you know, that kind of stuff, right? Just absolutely horrendous stuff.
[1:27:58] And so it is a very difficult life if you have some significant back injuries. It is a very difficult life. So, uh, somebody wrote, uh, spoke with the source that had a lot of friends that went to high school with Luigi Mangione. What keeps coming up is a back surgery that changed everything for him. And he went absolutely crazy. Yeah. Cause he's got an X-ray in his head. And what was it? Somebody uploaded to Grok a picture of their surgery scar and Grok analyzed it like really, really, uh, deeply. Yeah. So back injury happened when he was surfing in Hawaii. Surgery didn't go great. Moved to Japan. His contact with his family stopped about a year ago, and it was pretty bad. The shooter, if he was the shooter, maybe some sort of mental breakdown about six months ago and totally vanished. So, hey, this is from his family. Hey, are you okay? Nobody's heard from you in months. Apparently, a family is looking for you. Oh, sorry, it's not a family member, a friend. Thinking of you and prayers every day in your name. No, you are missed and loved. Hey, man, I need you to call me. I don't know if you're okay or just in a super isolated place and have no service, but I haven't heard from you in months. You made a commitment to me for my wedding. And if you can't honor that, I need to know so I can plan accordingly, like just rough. You know, that's really rough, like horrible, rough stuff.
[1:29:22] So, uh, from what I've read, yeah, somebody says, I've known two people in my life who were successful, smart, outgoing, and normal people who had back surgery and both went off the deep end, ended up killing themselves. What goes on during back surgery that causes this? Yeah. Turns out a mutual friend of mine says someone, again, I don't know if this is true or not, it's just what people are reporting, went to high school with Mangione and was on the wrestling team with him, says he was the class valedictorian. He had a back surgery a few months ago and went missing. No one had heard from him. So, it's some, back stuff seems to be some of the worst stuff around. Oh yeah, this guy wrote, my retired orthopedic surgeon dad never ever ever lets anyone cut your back. It rarely provides relief. It almost always makes things worse. It's the Vietnam of orthopedic surgery.
[1:30:12] Rough, man. So, he went non-traditional, Mangione. After a certain amount of time, he went non-traditional as far as I understand it. He even went as far as Ayahuasca. And this is one of the banger tweets of all time. I remember reading this some time ago. I think it was some months ago. No, this was last year. So this guy wrote, listen to this language. It's incredible, right? So he wrote, ayahuasca is insane because it appears to be one of the most legitimately dangerous drugs with the potential to gigafry your brain, but is exclusively taken by literal turbo normies who unironically want to, like, heal internalized racism trauma and basically get one-shotted by it. Literally the most spiritually inept people in existence having their little lib brains rearranged by some Meso-American 6D demon who makes them quit their email job, divorce their boyfriend or girlfriend, and become a traveling circus stripper or whatever.
[1:31:15] I remember like that language is just incredible look at that gigify your brain turbo normies one shotted by ayahuasca some mesoamerican 6D demon it's wild yeah I mean do not fuck with mysticism man do not fuck with mysticism
[1:31:39] So
[1:31:43] You know Your life can change in a moment, man. Your life can change in a moment. Your life can change in a moment, and it's horrendous.
[1:31:57] So, it is very difficult. So, he went and he had this back injury. And from there, he was in chronic pain. He couldn't sit. He had a tough time working. He couldn't have sex. And if you've ever had something in your life which just plagues your brain, oh, how does it feel right now? Oh, how did I sleep? Oh, I slept badly, right? So, this kind of pain, especially if there's no relief from it, I don't know if you've ever been with someone who has no relief from particular pain. It drives you crazy. Continual pain drives you crazy. It either drives you crazy because you can't get any sleep and you slowly mentally decay, or it drives you crazy because maybe the drugs that you take end up being really, really problematic, right? In terms of your stability, right?
[1:32:52] And this guy uh he that there's there's entire books on you know uh there's this book called a crooked outwitting the back pain industry and getting on blah blah blah or back mechanic and so on and he rated these uh books and it is uh it is wild so it could be just that he had maybe had some weakness or some issue with his back he gets one surfing accident now i've never really been i've never been surfing i've done body surfing or whatever i've never been surfing but my understanding is that surfing industries injuries are kind of two things like or three things i guess one you get hit with the board uh two you hit the sand in a weird way or three you just land on a rock right uh that's sort of my understanding of it and that is that is very rough that is very rough
[1:33:47] So, what goes from there? Now, his family, I think, was very wealthy. I think they developed golf courses and stuff like that. So, they probably had the money. It probably wasn't, oh, I can't get the surgery that I need because I don't have the money. I think his family had the money. I mean, $40,000 a year schools probably means that you have the money for this kind of surgery. I think, I think, I don't know, obviously, I think that what happened was he got a back injury and it didn't heal. Maybe it got worse. He probably tried surgical interventions. He tried other interventions. It got worse. He got more drugs. It got worse. He went alternative medicine. It got worse. He went ayahuasca where he complained about 6D demons and trying to implant thoughts in his brain. And his life just fell apart.
[1:34:41] Continual pain, like we're not designed. Pain is like a one and done thing. Pain is supposed to be fight or flight, like you solve it in one way or another. But what I find strange about all of this is, well, of course, you know, there are a lot of Marxists who are cheering on CEOs getting shot and all of that. And he had these bullets, which was, I think he had this on the bullets, apparently, allegedly, was the title of a book about how insurance companies reject your claims, right? But it's tough, man. Being an insurance company is not the easiest thing in the world because there's a lot of scammers out there, a lot of scammers. It's really tough. You know, they were talking about, well, we're not going to pay for additional anesthetic if it goes beyond the recommended amount. It's like, well, I get that, you know, it's better to have the anesthetic, you wake up and you're built. 40% of Americans, as far as I understand it, have medical debt, right? So now they're like, well, this is terrible. And, you know, people are angry and so on.
[1:35:42] And the people on the right or the conservatives are like, well, it's terrible that we're using force. You know, he shot a guy. It's like, well, what do you think government regulations are? I mean, it's just more obvious, this one. What do you think government, like, what do you think government laws, regulations, rules? I mean, you can't even open up hospitals nearby, other, because you have to show a certificate of need or whatever it is. You can't compete with doctors because you have to be licensed into oblivion. And, you know, the FDA and the CDC, well, we all know what happened to their reputation over the last, say, half decade or so.
[1:36:18] And so all of these government regulations, I mean, more than 50 cents of every dollar in American healthcare is spent by the government. And the amount of regulations are absolutely monstrous. And they're all based on force. They're all based on comply or die. Every single comma, syllable, capital, the page numbers are comply or die. So when the government forces people to do stuff, it's comply or die. There's a gun involved. Now, this guy's coming out with a gun and people are like, oh my God, that's massively different. Not morally. I get that it's covered up with a lot of paperwork, but it's all about coercion. All of it is about coercion. All government interventions are about coercion, comply or die. They escalate until you comply or die. Just like anybody who's going to use force against you. They use it because they're going to escalate until you comply or die.
[1:37:18] So I do find it interesting that people are talking about this particular incident like it's some massive deviation from the force that's used in the provision of healthcare as a whole. It's not. It's the same essential situation. All right let's see here people into mysticism are scary low conscientiousness and very high openness very untrustworthy yeah kind of funny how these marxist women are thirsting after some dude whose dick doesn't even work well yeah it's a terrible life it's a terrible life and these are the risks that you take when you do a lot of physical activity, right? I mean, I'm at the age now where the physical activity that people had in their youth is kind of coming back to bite them, right? So what are your choices? You're inactive in which case you get sick or you're active in which case you might get injured. This is just the tightrope of life, right? It's a tightrope of life. Go talk to Ben about their hernias. All right. People who try to convince young people that psychedelics or therapy are evil, truly scary stuff. Yeah, there was a character in the show Weeds was like, oh, ayahuasca. It's like 20 years of therapy in one night. It's like, nope, no, it's not. No, it's not.
[1:38:47] Every comment in every comment section I can find is glad it happened. Local news, national news, Reddit, everywhere. Well, you know, we rely on force for the education of our children, right? All the government schools are predicated on the initiation of the use of force in order to pay, control, fund, and subsidize. So we rely on force for the sake of educating our children. What on earth are we going to say no to after that? That's one of the reasons why it often starts with government education of children, because if violence is effective in the education of children, where are you going to say it's bad? How can you say it's bad? They got your kids, and that's how you think kids should be educated. What are you going to say after that? All right, any other last questions, tips? Tips more than welcome. Of course, you can go to freedomain.com slash donate to help out the show as well, which is deeply, humbly, and gratefully appreciated. Thank you, thank you so much for all of that wonderful kindness. If you have any other comments or issues, I appreciate that. Crypto donations, of course, massively and humbly and deeply and gratefully accepted at freedomair.com slash donate.
[1:39:56] But sometimes you just get bad luck. And sometimes you get bad luck and sometimes you can't be fixed. Right? Sometimes you can't be fixed.
[1:40:07] If he screwed up his back beyond the capacity of surgeons to fix, even though his family had all the money in the known universe, it seems like for his surgery, if this is the guy,
[1:40:20] Sometimes you just have bad luck, really bad luck.
[1:40:29] And there's not any particularly deep meaning in it other than life is risk. Life is risk. And we all have to choose and manage our risks. Thank you for your donations, Dorbens. I really do appreciate that. You cannot buy good health. Ah, I wouldn't agree with that. I wouldn't agree with that. If you break your arm and you pay for it, right? You can buy good health. I mean to exercise is required you have to exercise to be healthy as far as I understand it you have to exercise to be healthy and exercise comes with risks you can trip, you can fall the weights can land on you you can wobble on the treadmill you can trip on the bike or you can roll over on the bike all exercise is going to come with risk
[1:41:31] So, I mean, I think we can have some sympathy. This guy just had some bad luck. It doesn't sound like he was doing anything particularly crazy. So, sometimes people in pursuit of good health just have some really bad luck. And you've got to be aware of that, right? I mean, I think, right? I mean, I'm telling you, most times I get into the car, I'm like, hmm, hope I make it home. Might not, might not. And it helps me to be alert and it helps me to stay present right check three times right every time you gotta cross a road doesn't guarantee that you'll be okay but maybe it raises the odds a little bit and that's probably worth it so all right well thanks everyone so much for your show i'll be back friday night and um did some great work today i did a really long and great show about the dangers of mysticism and determinism and did a really really funny show with my daughter about gladiator 2 which i really do uh hope you'll enjoy and it was a great call tonight so really do appreciate that have yourselves a beautiful beautiful night if you're listening to this later of course don't let other people subsidize what you yourself are consuming and enjoying freedomain.com slash donate lots of love my friends i'll talk to you soon bye
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