For the app on iOS, I was able to get it on my home screen by visiting the link in Safari -> Share -> Add to Home Screen. There was no button as shown in the desktop demo.
Is that the right way?
if one speaks multiple languages - in which language should one take therapy?
If a woman got raped would you expect her to have the child and raise it?
Hello Stefan.
Thanks to your guidance and alot of hard work, Ive managed to improve my life enormously.
For example I used to be possessed by a great internal rage that drove me to 'break' my self at the gym and entering violent combat sports. The idea of Valhalla was literally my view of heaven.
Now Im serene and my inner world is at peace.
However as I improve I find myself feeling less at home in my circles of friendship. Especially my fighting club.
I still enjoy the rush and the competition but a part of me still see the fighting as a form of self-flagellation. My performance suffers because of this.
I also feel like less at home with some of the club members because their traumas, expressed as violence, still remain unresolved and unrecognised.Can I resolve these issues and still remain a fighter?
Enjoy the tip. More is coming at pay day. Thanks for all.
Hi Stef! In one of the recent shows you mentione how you had to cut ties with some people in your life once you started to move up. Could you share some key insights on these things? You talk about these things frequently in your shows. How to deal with people, even with family members that start become toxic and try to pull you back down? For the sake argument, let us assume that person moving up is doing so due to hard work, discipline and so on…
"Trump shooter's parents are licensed professional counselors, records show"
If you go see a mainstream therapist, wouldn't you be getting advice from such people?
Stef when you say "talk to a therapist before you defoo", is it Legalese?
Legalese as in "I'm not a doctor. Don't listen to my opinions on vaccines" or "I'm not a lawyer". Standard disclaimers rather than, you know, what you really mean.
How do you deal with trying to save a world that hates you? How do you not lose hope?
Is it a red flag if a first date is talking about prior relationships?
How do you best deal with a dishonest and manipulative person who becomes obsessed with you because you refuse to let them into your life? There is nothing that the law can do to stop someone from harassing you, but is there something that can be said to a person to make them want to leave you alone? This kind of person is more fixated on you accepting their attempts to manipulate you than they are on having an honest relationship. Can you reason with a person who sees themselves as a cat and you as a mouse to be preyed upon?
My husband’s best friend just killed himself. This is his first major loss in his life. How should I help him grieve? He seems to be in shock right now.
I’m considering starting a new role working as deputy COO for a large public accounting firm. At the same time, I have a 2 year old daughter and another girl due in 5 months. while the role will be mostly remote, for the first 6 or so months I expect I’ll be traveling a lot to establish relationships around the different offices in the country. My parents and wife will be more than equipped to handle things while I’m away, but I’m still not feeling great about the future time I’ll be away from my family. Am I making a mistake by taking this role? I’m going to miss my wife and daughter terribly while I’m out…
Any advice for a couple with vastly different ACE scores?
My wife’s ACE is 8/10 wile mine is zero, maybe a 1 if you count occasional spankings.
Because of this, it has been a long journey to get my wife to push back on anything or have difficult conversations and sometimes (even after 4 children) sex and conversations about sex can be awkward for her.
as someone who experienced almost no childhood adversity sometimes I feel ill equipped, or can’t understand. Any tips or nuggets of knowledge that could help?
Any suggestions on improving your ability to make small talk and breaking out of being an introvert?
Hi Stef, me and my girlfriend had a discussion about what we would do if we had a disabled child. We are both Christian, so abortion is not an option.
0:00 - Introduction
0:29 - Language in Therapy
0:59 - Handling Rape Pregnancy
2:07 - Self-Improvement Journey
3:03 - Moving Up in Life
4:18 - Cutting Ties for Growth
6:34 - Letting Go of Family
7:46 - Therapist Selection
8:25 - Responsibility in Advice
8:54 - Dealing with Hate
10:58 - Sharing Past Relationships
11:59 - Understanding Relationship Failures
13:30 - Dealing with Manipulative People
15:30 - Helping a Grieving Spouse
17:52 - Handling Suicidal Individuals
18:42 - Balancing Work and Family
20:12 - Adverse Childhood Experiences
22:00 - Improving Social Skills
23:57 - Parenting a Disabled Child
The host of the show address various questions and topics brought up by listeners. The discussion touches on issues such as the language used in therapy, the decision-making process when a woman is raped, and the ethical considerations surrounding pregnancy in such cases. The conversation delves into personal development with insights on overcoming rage, finding peace within oneself, and navigating changes in social circles while undergoing personal growth.
Moreover, the discussion transitions to the importance of setting boundaries and cutting ties with toxic individuals, especially when advancing in life. The host emphasizes the significance of choosing personal growth over remaining in toxic relationships, highlighting the impact of surrounding oneself with unresolved trauma.
Furthermore, the host provides perspective on mental health challenges, such as dealing with suicidal individuals and the importance of seeking professional help in such cases. They stress the complexity of handling mental health issues and the necessity of professional intervention.
Additionally, the discussion includes insights on relationships, adverse childhood experiences, and challenges faced by couples with varying backgrounds. The host addresses topics like improving communication, understanding partners with different traumatic experiences, and making decisions regarding disabled children.
The conversation also covers personal development aspects, including overcoming introversion, engaging in small talk, and handling social interactions more effectively. The host encourages self-improvement efforts to enhance social skills and contribute positively to social dynamics.
[0:00] All right, everybody. Hope you're doing well. Steve Ham, all on you. From Free Domain, yes, I've got some pants on. I am no longer afraid of the sun. So, questions from listeners. From the app, for the, oh, this is a statement first. For the app on iOS, you can get the installable apps running by visiting the link in Safari. And then you go to share, add to home screen. There's no button as shown in the desktop demo, so you can mention that. that, good for you.
[0:30] All right. If one speaks in multiple languages, in which language should one take therapy? So I don't know, obviously the most fluent, but I would imagine, given that a lot of therapy has to do with childhood issues, I would imagine that you want to do therapy in the language of your childhood. That would be my strong suggestion. Do therapy in the language of your childhood. All right.
[0:59] If a woman gets raped, should we expect her to have the child and raise it? I would not say so. That is an unwanted intrusion and it is forcible squatting, so to speak, because the woman did not decide to have sex. Having sex, vaginal sex, ejaculatory sex for the male at a time of ovulation or thereabouts, you take the risk of having a baby. That's just the way that things run. So if somebody, you know, plays Russian roulette, that's one thing, and if they get shot by somebody else, that's another. So if the woman...
[1:41] Is raped, then she does not have to have and keep the baby because the baby is not part of her choice. It's the difference between somebody who cuts themselves, so to speak, and somebody who gets stabbed by someone else. So again, I'm sorry to say, you know, the cutting of the baby and all of that, but if something is imposed from you from outside, you are not responsible for the consequences. If you choose the actions and you choose the risks, then you also choose the consequences. All right.
[2:08] Hello, Steph. Thanks for your guidance and a lot of hard work. I've managed to improve my life enormously. For example, I used to be possessed by a great internal rage that drove me to break myself at the gym and entering violent combat sports.
[2:23] The idea of Valhalla was literally my view of heaven. Now I'm serene and my inner world is at peace. However, as I improve, Prove, I find myself less at home in my circles of friendship, especially my fighting club. Fair? I still enjoy the Russian competition, but a part of me still sees the fighting as a form of self-flagellation. My performance suffers because of this. I also feel like less at home with some of the club members because their traumas express as violence to remain unresolved and unrecognized. Can I resolve these issues and still remain a fighter? Enjoy the tip. More is coming at payday. thanks for all. Thank you for the tip, of course, my friend.
[3:03] So, I remember way back in the day, I got into, I don't know, the usual endless round of nonsense trouble when I pointed out that martial arts was a sign of child abuse.
[3:16] So, it's not so much can you stay a fighter or not, it's that how much time, if you are sort of self-aware and you've learned and you've grown own in life how much time do you want to spend around people who haven't learned who haven't growed and are acting out all of their trauma in some fairly destructive ways so it's not about the fighting so much as it is that you are then spending a lot of time around people with unprocessed childhood trauma which means your life is going to be chaotic and messy and problematic in all kinds of ways all right hi stephan one of the recent shows you mentioned how you had to cut ties with some people in your life once you started to move up. Could you share some key insights on these things? You talk about these things frequently in your shows. How to deal with people, even toxic family members, that start to become toxic and try to pull you back down? For the sake of argument, let us assume that a person moving up is doing so due to hard work, discipline, and so on. Yes, a fine question. A fine question. So.
[4:18] When I began to move up, I was hoping that other people either would move up with me or at least be glad that I was doing so. And most people ignored everything that I was doing. And where they couldn't ignore it, they just mentioned it in passing. And I found this kind of bizarre. I mean, I've always been up to fairly big things in my life, you know, writing novels and producing plays and starting a business and doing this podcasting stuff and public speaking and all kinds of crazy stuff. And you just you have to make a choice you have to make a choice at some point in your life if anyone is holding you back from your full potential they are the enemy of your destiny, if anyone is holding you back from your full potential they are the enemy of your destiny.
[5:02] What can I say there's really not much to be said other than that you can choose to give up your destiny you can choose to sink back down into the muck from wherein you came because you know a lot of times you think of life's hardships you think of like a catapult right like you pull a catapult back right you pull the catapult off it goes so a lot of the in your life are designed to not design but you can have they can have the effect of being the elastic that pulls you back and sends you forward so hardship that keeps you down in the bowels in trash planet, in the shitstorm of dysfunction and acting out and lack of self-knowledge and low expectations that characterize the bottom classes. And the bottom classes is not financial. The bottom classes is just those who don't have self-knowledge and wisdom and virtue. So, if the crap that you went through has you stay down in the bowels and the depths, then the crap has won, the shitstorm has won, the trash has won, and your future has been eviscerated. If on the other hand you use your hardships as an elastic to propel you higher you're going to have to leave people behind now it's funny you know because I'm in the last third of life maybe even the last quarter of life.
[6:22] Maybe the last two-fifths of life. I'm still working on the calcs. But because I'm in the last chunk of life, all of the storms and stresses and that which was going on when I was younger, I mean, I understand this.
[6:35] I'm not saying that they were unimportant. They were important at the time. But given that I've come to a place that I love, all of the things that got me here seem more positive than negative. And we repeat that again. Because I've got to a place that I love, all the things that happened seem more positive than negative. at all. It's not what happens to you, it's how you let it guide you and what you're willing to let go of. So when people call me, you know, they're tortured about, you know, I got a girlfriend and I'm not sure if we're getting along or I'm not getting along with brother or, you know, all of these things seem so long ago for me, it's hard to even explain exactly how deep in the distant past they've seen. I mean, I've barely seen my family in almost 30 years. I don't miss them. I'm enormously glad I made that decision. It's been hugely positive for me. I would not be where I am with the woman that I am, with the family that I have, with the friends that I have, with the career that I have, if I had stayed around in that world. Oh, don't want to. Oh, can't imagine it. Oh, no, thank you.
[7:38] So, if people are in the way of your potential, they are the enemies of your, soul's destiny. All right.
[7:47] Trump shooter's parents are licensed professional counselors, records show. Well, social workers with some side training and counselor stuff. So if you go to see a mainstream therapist, wouldn't you be getting advice from such people? When you say, to talk to a therapist before you do defu, is it legalese? As in, I'm not a doctor, not listening to my opinions, or I'm not a lawyer. Standard disclaimer, rather than, you know, what you really mean. Well, it's like everyone. There's good and bad podcasters, There's good and bad economists, there's good and bad therapists, and there's good and bad philosophers, right? So, yeah, I would say that I've got a whole show called How to Find a Great Therapist. If you find a great therapist, good.
[8:26] If you're a man, you might want to look for an older man who's a therapist before all the woke stuff infected everyone. But, yeah. Yeah.
[8:34] I mean, I suppose if I say to someone, go see a therapist, and then, you know, they go and do something stupid. Well, if they were under the care of a therapist, it's the therapist's responsibility. If they're not under the care of the therapist, then clearly I didn't have much influence on them, right? That's understandable.
[8:55] All right. How do you deal with trying to save a world that hates you? How do you not lose hope?
[9:01] Um why would you assume i haven't lost hope right i mean the trajectory of the world is what it is there was a chance in 2016 to turn it around uh that chance for a variety of reasons um didn't work and uh so as far as hope uh to save the world as it currently stands uh no no hope to save the world as it currently stands but the world doesn't hate me i mean the world doesn't hate me it's It's funny, you know, because people have this sort of impression of me, the second-hand reports of me. And then if they meet me, it's like, I'm delightful. I'm a lot of fun to hang with. I'm funny. I'm curious. I'm engaging. I'm open to every aspect of the human experience. So the world doesn't hate me. The world, significant portions of the world are massively addicted to free money from the government, right? Rich, poor, mostly paid for by the middle class. Large businesses, welfare, single moms, mostly paid for by small businesses and the middle class. So they are massively addicted to free stuff from the government. Now, when you stand between free stuff and the government, in other words, if your ideology says that this is not moral, then you threaten their source of income. It's like going to a farmer who's desperate to have all his crops for the winter and you set fire to the farmer's crops. He's going to be really mad at you because you're threatening his entire survival, right?
[10:23] So the world doesn't hate me. It's not about me. It's not personal to me. I'm truly delightful as a person. And that's true about just about everyone who meets me. I remember even having people come to do hit pieces on me and they meet me and, you know, they laugh and we have fun and we learn about the world. And, you know, later it sort of they get more poisoned and all of that. But now people like me. Charisma 18. What can I tell you? So nobody hates me. They hate the truth. They hate reality. They hate facts and all these kinds of stuff. But they don't hate me.
[10:58] Is it a red flag if your first date is talking about prior relationships? Yes, absolutely. Absolutely. Women in particular imprint on sexual partners. And so it's like this deep impression. So you want to think about if you're looking at some bright light for a while, and then you go out into the dark, then what happens is you see the after image of that light, right? That's sort of the way it works. Now, women are very strongly impressed, and there's some evidence that even every man or woman slept with leaves a DNA imprint on her body, right? Including Fauci. But if a woman is talking about prior relationships, it means that she has not learned why the relationship failed, right? So a relationship, everybody enters into a relationship hoping for love, passion, connection, intimacy, support, great sex and all these things. You go into a relationship hoping it's going to be for life. And when the relationship goes into an absolute shit pit of a catastrophic end, people have big questions.
[11:59] It makes sense. They'd have big questions. The big questions are what the hell happened and what went wrong.
[12:07] And people struggle a lot. lot, they struggle mightily with that question and with that answer. And people usually make up answers like, he was a bastard, she was a bitch, he cheated, she was cold, or whatever it is. They come up with all of this nonsense about why the relationship failed. They look at, the relationship was great, the other person mysteriously changed, did something wrong, I'm a victim, and so on, right? And you hear all of these crazy X stories. Now, the reason that people stay on crazy X stories is that that's not the answer. That is not the answer. It is not the answer that you just have a crazy ex. The answer is, well, the answer is a question. Why did you choose somebody who was unstable? And I've had thousands of these conversations over the years. It always goes the same thing. Well, there weren't any red flags. Well, what about this? And what about that? Oh, there was this and that and the other. Yes, I suppose. So, everybody knows, right? And you don't have people watching your back. You haven't processed your childhood trauma. You're repeating a Stockholm syndrome trauma bond probably with your dysfunctional parents if they were dysfunctional. So, the reason that people get stuck on stories of the ex is because they haven't learned the lesson of the relationship, which is don't try to fix crazy, stay away from crazy. You can't fix crazy, right?
[13:24] How do you best deal with a dishonest and manipulative person who becomes obsessed with you because you refuse to let them into your life?
[13:30] There's nothing the law can do to stop someone from harassing you, but is there something thing that can be said to a person to make them want to leave you alone. This kind of person is more fixated on you accepting their attempts to manipulate you than they are in having an honest relationship. Can you reason with a person who sees themselves as a cat and you as a mouse to be preyed upon?
[13:47] You know, talk to a lawyer, talk to, you know, maybe get some advice from police. So everything is nonsense that I'm saying. So don't take anything I'm saying with any importance or interest. This is just my personal opinion. And I have talked to a number of women who have had stalkers over the years. If this is what's going on. So, when someone is obsessed with you, they're trying to avoid a great pain in their life. Right? So, what's happening if the person feels like they're falling over a cliff of loneliness and isolation and a desperately sad, depressing, terrible, pathetic life, and you, my friend, you are the only rope that can get them out of the well. You are the only thing that can stop them sliding into the abyss. You are the only thing that can save them from a life of hell and horror. You're the last exit before they go down to hell. So they get obsessed with you, but it really is just about avoiding a personal sense of horror. And of course, it's selfish, right? I mean, you have no right to impose yourself on people's lives who don't want you in their life.
[14:54] Anytime in my experience, and again, it's just an opinion, don't act on anything I'm saying, it's just my opinion, you just have to not engage. Don't engage, don't engage, don't engage. And what you hope is that by not engaging, they will take their fixation and apply it hopefully on a hobby, hopefully on a course, maybe hopefully on therapy or something like that. So you really, really hope that they are going to take that obsession, move it to someone else. And, you know, honestly, even if it's someone else, it's still not you. And that's probably a plus, at least for you. But I would not try and reason with them or try to engage with them.
[15:31] My husband's best friend just killed himself This is his first major loss in his life How should I help him grieve? He seems to be in shock right now.
[15:42] I really, really dislike people who commit suicide. I really do. I mean, if you can't stand living, I don't know why, right? I mean, if you can't stand living, then you want to take your ticket out? You want to punch your clock? Okay, then go make it look like an accident. So at least people aren't tortured. People who kill themselves are inflicting satanic rage on the survivors. It is a way of messing with their heads. It's an absolute act of destruction. It's the ultimate act of abuse and it is just horrible to to be a part of so the question is not how do you help him grieve the question is why would you allow such a dysfunctional desperate manipulative suicidal why would this person be in your life in the first place.
[16:25] Yeah people can't you can't help someone who's suicidal you can't fix them you can mean maybe Maybe a job of professionals, maybe who knows what, right? But, you know, if somebody's suicidal, I don't talk to people. Like, if people write to me and say I'm suicidal, I'm like, hey, man, you call a hotline. Or if it shows up in a call, it's like, you're going to call a hotline, you're going to make a promise. I don't try and fix that. You know, if somebody's got, you know, some ankylosed tooth or appendicitis, what do you do? You say to them, hey, you should go to the ER. are. You should go to hospital. You should do something. Lord above, that's bright. You should do something. But I am not an expert. I am not a professional. And, you know, there's always a threat. See, the moment that somebody starts talking about suicidality in your life, it's a massive threat. Because obviously, you probably don't want to spend a lot of time trying to talk someone out of killing themselves. But your concern is that if you distance yourself from the relationship, then they're going to kill themselves because you're not around for them to jump on, right?
[17:29] Somebody who is suicidal needs to call a hotline, needs to go to ER, needs to get a full mental health workup, needs to get physical checks, needs to, they need a whole team of experts. You don't take suicidality and dump it on people who have no control, no authority, no expertise, no training, nothing. It is incredibly abusive.
[17:52] And it is, it's like calling someone and saying, who's not a doctor or anything, calling someone and saying, my baby is coughing up blood. And then you're supposed to come over and help. You can't help. They need to get to a hospital. You need to talk to experts, suicidal people, people who are into self-harm, all that kind of, they need professionals, they need dedicated resources. It's probably years. And even then, there's no guarantee. It's not a job for you. It's not a job for me. It is a job for... And so you say, listen, man, you're telling me basically you have some vague weird lump on your neck. Well, you need to go and talk to a professional. I can't help you. I'm not a professional. I can't biopsy. I can't x-ray it. I don't know what the hell I'm looking for. So go talk to a professional. Same thing with suicide. All right.
[18:42] Pardon me I'm considering starting a new role Working as deputy COO As chief operating officer For a large public accounting firm At the same time I have a two year old daughter And another girl due in five months While the role will be mostly remote For the first six months or so I expect to be travelling a lot To establish relationships around The different offices in the country, My parents and wife will be more than equipped To handle things while I'm away But I'm still not feeling great about the future time I'll be away from my family Am I making a mistake by taking this role? I'm going to miss my wife and daughter terribly while I'm out. Are you crazy? Are you crazy? What's the matter with you? This is not even a question. Why would you write to me and ask me this question?
[19:20] Your parents need, sorry, your wife needs a father and, well, your wife needs a husband and your kids need a father. Like if you want to go travel for six months, and I know you say it's for business or whatever, if you want to go do that, okay, fine, then don't have kids. But once you have kids, you're locked in to do what is best for the kids. having two children who are very young is a huge burden it's a huge challenge and your wife is going to need your help and your kids are going to want to bond with you and they don't want to have some stranger show up six months down the road uh and i'll just tell you this man i'll tell you this later on in life and bro later on in life when you get older and you look back all the money will be gone all the prestige will gone all the excitement will be gone and all that we left is a a huge gap in the baby photos and a huge gap, a huge daddy-shaped hole in your children's early hearts. Don't do it. All right.
[20:12] Any advice for a couple with vastly different ACE scores? That's adverse childhood experience scores. My wife's ACE is 8 out of 10, my mine is 0. Mine is 0, maybe 1 if you count occasional spankings. Because of this, it has been a long journey to get my wife to push back on anything I have difficult conversations. And sometimes, even after four children, sex and conversations about sex can be awkward for her. As someone who experienced almost no childhood adversity. Sometimes I feel ill-equipped or can't understand any tips or nuggets of knowledge that can help.
[20:40] An ACE of 10, 8 out of 10 is very catastrophic because of the sexual issues I'm going to assume. Sorry, but I'm going to assume that your wife has been subjected to sexual abuse as a child. This is not a job for a husband any more than fixing your wife's teeth or, I don't know, there's a weird mole on her back. She goes to a dermatologist, right? So you can't fix this.
[21:01] The question is, of course... You say that you had this great childhood, so then why would you be with somebody so damaged and broken? It's so weird to me that, like, if you want to know how attractive you are, look in the mirror. My wife and I have pretty much the same levels of attractiveness, and you see this all over the place, right? And so if you want to know how broken you are, look at your partner. So there's something that happened. There's something that happened that made you want to be a caregiver for somebody who went through excruciating levels of childhood. You say, oh, well, she's wonderful in other ways and so on. Listen, man, there are lots of people who are wonderful in this world. There are lots of people who are great in this world. Excuse me.
[21:41] You don't have to find somebody this broken. There's tons of people who are relatively nice in the world, good in this world, smart, honest, decent, and they're not this broken. Now, I say broken, you know, massive sympathy and all of that, but you have to ask yourself why. Why would you get involved in this? Why would you take this on as your responsibility? There's a couple of reasons you might. You're a caregiver. You're a caretaker.
[22:00] You had a neurotic mother you had to deal with or take care of, or you know the girl is super pretty and you're into shallow appearance-based vanity stuff which would be a status addiction on the family of origin so you are not all that you crack yourself up to be in terms of mental health my friend any suggestions on improving your ability to make small talk and breaking out of being an introvert so being an introvert is kind of selfish honestly i mean being an extrovert like dominating the conversation can also be kind of selfish because then it's all about you but being an introvert is it's like if you go socializing and you're an introvert and you just kind of you armadillo yourself up and you kind of stay in, then if you're an introvert putting all the work on everyone else, it's like showing up to help people move and carrying nothing and just sitting around and eating the pizza and the beer. It's like, hey man, why aren't you pulling your weight? Why aren't you doing some work? You're drinking the pizza and the beer. So, the price of going over to people's houses and you drink their drinks and you eat their food is that you got to socialize and if you don't socialize, that's kind of selfish.
[22:57] I have very little patience for these introverts who, oh, I'm just so shy. I'm just like, no, no, no, you're selfish because there's work in social situations. And if you want the benefit of social situations, you have to do the work. You can't just rely on other people to do all the work for you. That's lazy. So figure this stuff out. Ask people about themselves. You read up on a bunch of stuff ahead of time. Have topics, list them out, practice in the mirror, practice with friends. I mean, I'm glad that you're doing this. Good for you. But yeah introverts as a whole they just all they do is shift the work and the burden to everyone else and it's lazy and it's a little parasitical because if you have a whole bunch of introverts sitting around nothing's happening so the introverts are absolutely relying on everyone else to take the difficulty, and shoulder the burden of all of this kind of stuff and they're just annoying all right.
[23:52] Uh, disabled child, what do we got here?
[23:57] Me and my girlfriend had a discussion about what we would do if we had a disabled child. We are both Christians, so abortion is not an option. Well, of course, a disabled child is, uh, there's so much technology to help children be enabled now that physical disabilities are obviously still difficult and still challenging, to put it mildly, but it's not as catastrophic as it used to be. So as far as physical disabilities go, I think there's a lot that can be done and dealt with. With regards to intellectual disabilities, you know, I have a half-sister who's in that realm, and it's tough. It is tough. It is tough. And there's no particularly good answers for all of that. Of course, as a Christian, you would believe that there's a soul within the person who's mentally handicapped that still remains original. As a secularist, that would not be a lot of people's approach. If the brain is damaged, the brain is damaged, and there's not an original personality in there, like an emergency thing you can break. In a breaking case of emergency, there's no emergency ghost in there that's better than the person. So, in a free society, people would take insurance for these kinds of things, and there would be a lot of technology to try and help out with these kinds of things, and it would be up to each person to decide.
[25:15] Just because you have a child, it doesn't mean that you have to raise the child. I mean, people give their children up for adoption. You can, in most places in the world, certainly in the West, you can take a child and you can drop the child at a fire station, at a hospital, at a police station, and the child will be taken care of.
[25:36] So you can choose. I can't tell you whether you should choose. Let's say you have some child who is paraplegic and severely brain damaged. I don't know. I mean, that's each person's personal decision, and I wouldn't have any fault with people who kept that child. I wouldn't have any fault with people who got that child institutional care because it's quite a lot of work. The challenge, of course, is what happens when you age out. You have to work extra hard, but you also have to work to take care of your child. When you age out, you need to make sure there are enough resources for your child after you die to continue the life. So it is a very, very sad situation, particularly the intellectual disability. So it's not a violation of the non-aggression principle to give up your children or to keep them if you can take care of them. It is a violation of the non-aggression principle to keep children around that you can't take care of, which I talk about in Peaceful Parenting. So, thank everyone so much. I appreciate you letting me get a little bit of sun on this glorious day. And I hope that you will continue to support the show at freedomain.com slash donate. Lots of love from up here, my friends. Get me more questions. freedomain.locals.com I'll talk to you soon. Oh, I shall talk to you tonight in a couple hours. Bye.
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