0:00 - Introduction
11:04 - Anarcho-Capitalism Evolution
19:21 - Business as Family
23:06 - Personal Updates and Hamster Wheeling
25:27 - Tracing Back Causality
29:39 - Release the Scouts
35:33 - Normie Scout Exercise
37:25 - The Enforcers
47:50 - The Enforcers of Totalitarianism
50:35 - Suppressing Ideas to Prevent Violence
51:11 - Reading Anti-Totalitarian Stories
54:05 - Analyzing Willy Loman in Death of a Salesman
1:01:02 - Coping with Guilt and Anxiety
1:04:38 - Addressing Poor People Stereotypes
1:06:40 - Responding to Inappropriate Conversations
1:09:58 - Training People out of Unwanted Interactions
1:12:30 - The Challenges of Attractive Women
1:14:50 - Importance of Preparation in Responding
1:15:39 - Media Interviews and Rehearsal Importance
1:18:54 - Finding Strength in Shakespearean Wisdom
1:22:18 - Dealing with Creeps: Preparation is Key
1:31:34 - Building Confidence through Confrontation Practice
1:38:28 - Standing Up Against Creeps: Be Loud and Direct
1:48:20 - Preparing Daughters for Dealing with Creeps
In today's show, we took our audience on a journey to a futuristic world, introducing the launch of peacefulparenting.com and the impending release of the condensed Peaceful Parenting book for a more concise read. Our discussion delved into the evolution of anarcho-capitalism and the myriad challenges faced by intelligent individuals within societal structures. We explored the idea of businesses resembling families and the inherent risks of exploitation that can arise from such a model. The conversation also touched on the prevalence of businesses thriving on overwork and the critical importance of sustainable business practices for long-term success. Sharing personal anecdotes and upcoming ventures, including a Florida meetup and detailed insights into event planning, we wrapped up the show with a look at nation-states selling off Bitcoin and the detrimental effects of overworked employees in certain sectors. Audience engagement, feedback, and thought-provoking questions fueled enriching dialogues across diverse subjects.
Encouraging a lively exchange of questions and viewpoints on wage concerns and sustainable business practices, we delved into recent political events in England and France, meticulously tracing causality to understand underlying dynamics. Reflecting on interactions with individuals holding contrasting beliefs, we underscored the value of challenging conventional perspectives and deploying scouts to test reactions. Expressing skepticism towards mainstream narratives such as the safety and efficacy of the COVID vaccine, we considered the role of enforcers in societal structures and their implications on authoritarianism and social dynamics. Exploring the roots of enforcer behavior and the complexities of belief systems, we emphasized a steadfast commitment to truth-seeking and the embracing of diverse perspectives.
Addressing the tendency of individuals feeling powerless within themselves seeking control over others, we navigated through a podcast episode spanning diverse topics, from van life to profound analyses of literary works like "The Great Gatsby" and "Death of a Salesman." Our conversation illuminated societal perceptions of poverty and the intricate nature of setting boundaries in professional environments. Sharing insights on confronting inappropriate conduct at work, we underscored the significance of establishing boundaries and recognizing social cues to maintain a healthy workplace dynamic.
Transitioning to a crucial segment of the discussion, we emphasized the imperative of trusting women's instincts when confronted with inappropriate behaviors, particularly in professional settings. Stressing the value of preparing responses in advance rather than reacting in the moment, we highlighted the importance of setting firm boundaries and not excusing misconduct under the guise of social discomfort. Addressing the potential repercussions of overlooking inappropriate behaviors, such as intellectual hindrance and academic rivalry, we underscored the necessity for women to be vigilant, trust their intuition, and assertively navigate professional scenarios to safeguard their well-being and career trajectory.
Continuing on this vital theme, we examined the significance of shedding guilt for one's attractiveness while addressing safety concerns surrounding encounters with inappropriate individuals or situations. Empowering individuals, particularly women, to assertively stand up against misconduct, we stressed the efficacy of rehearsing responses to confrontations and projecting confidence to deter unwanted behaviors. Our discussion also explored varying perspectives on handling threats or unsettling behaviors in academic and professional settings, emphasizing the readiness and awareness women must cultivate to navigate such challenges. Wrapping up with a call to action for women to practice assertiveness, self-defense, and unwavering trust in their instincts during potential safety threats, we emphasized the importance of preparedness and collective understanding of the diverse hurdles faced by women in various environments.
[0:00] Good evening, good evening. Welcome to 10th of July 2024, 7 and change PM, Wednesday Night Live with me and you and the world all the way down the line. Welcome to a thousand years in the future. It will pass and come to be, just as everything in your past has passed and come to be. All right, let's get to your questions, comments. You can donate here. Of course, you can donate on the app, here on Locals, here on Rumble, freedomain.com slash donate, as well as all gratefully appreciated to keep the show running and humming.
[0:41] The website, peacefulparenting.com, the website has gone live this morning. We finalized the logo and the cover, and I edited the books. There was one or two little changes to make in the books, and I put the new cover in, So you can feel free to spread this to whoever you want. Peacefulparenting.com. Peacefulparenting.com. Easy to remember, I think. And I hope that you will do that. And yeah, freedomain.com. The book is free. I'm very close to finishing the short version. That's what I was working on this afternoon. Noon, and the short version, which is, let's find out here, shall we? What is the short version? How long is the short version? It's quite a bit shorter, to put it mildly.
[1:34] So full version is 460 pages, something like that, and the shortened version is, what do we got here 192 pages so it's uh obviously two-thirds two-fifths something like that but it's a lot shorter a lot more concise and you know it's uh it's like mainlining highly cocaine derivative philosophy uh there's no padding not that the book is much padding at all it's pretty pretty lean but this is uh it's i actually think it's tougher in a sense to read the shorter version because it's very intense. But I did want the short version to be available. Hopefully, it will be available starting this weekend, the condensed version of Peaceful Parenting. So thank you again. It's been quite a project. It started over a year ago with the book, and it has been a rough process, and I'll be glad to get this beast behind me. I'll tell you that. All right. Hi, gentlemen. How do you see the evolution of anarcho-capitalism in the coming years? We need an amount of bad feedback. But fiat currency doesn't give that until on the very last. Maybe South America, like Argentina, El Salvador, could expose their success like a beacon to the world to see. Yeah, it's tough, man.
[2:57] I mean, smart people all throughout history have always tried to keep one step ahead of the violent, retarded horde that is nipping at our heels for making them feel stupid. So it is a tough life. for the smart people. You know, everyone's, oh, the minorities, take care of the minorities. You know, I gotta tell you, the minority of smart people are often the most persecuted in the world.
[3:27] Especially when people want the unearned, right? They want the unearned, so the sophists will sell them all these justifications, for getting what they did not earn and feeling they're somehow deserving of...
[3:43] That which they did not earn. And the way that you sell people on stealing is you call them victims. Mmm. You call them victims, and then they feel justified in stealing. It's really, really sad and really, really common. Now, of course, if you're going to tell people that they've been stolen from, you have to tell them who's done the stealing. It always seems to be the smart, intelligent, creative, and productive who are the scapegoats for the sophists to pin the theft that allows for the, the fake theft, the illusory theft that ends up allowing for the real theft. Well, it's always the smarties among us who get blamed so that the sophists can skim off the infinite theft of pseudo-victim resentment. Sad but true. Sad but true. So the smart people, the productive people will end up fleeing the violent and demented horde to some new place and then they'll be chased down there. And everyone will say, gosh, we hate those productive people. And then what will happen is the productive people will leave and everybody will chase after them and say, we hate you so much we can't stand living without you.
[5:06] I love you. I hate you. I hate you. Don't leave me. You're the worst person ever. I can't live without you. I mean, it's all. I mean, the mob is a borderline personality disorder masquerading as a democracy. All right. All these and other coinable phrases are available on this live stream tonight. All right, let's see here. So evolution of inaugural capitalism. Yeah, for sure. There'll be a big market for the smart people. There'll be a haven for the smart people. And then the dumb people will view the collapse as being somehow the smart people's fault. Well, we hate you. We wish you were gone. Oh, you're gone. We hate you because you left. And it's all just, I don't know. I don't even know what the solution to this is other than peaceful parenting, right? All right. Let's see here. A few episodes ago, you talked about avoiding businesses where the boss or owner calls it a family. Would you mind explaining it a bit more? So, in general, an economic organization that pretends to be a family is an exploitive cult that seeks to underpay you by trading in on isolation in return for pretend community.
[6:31] And it's really sad. Yeah, we're a family here. It's like, no, you're really not. You're a corporation. You're a business. You can like each other. I like to be friends with the people that I work with, and I've always had good relationships with the people that I work with, but I wouldn't say we're a family because a family is a biological unit.
[6:55] A corporation is an economic unit. it so generally so there's a very interesting debate that one of my favorite movies is called room with a view the original novel is by gay 19th century writer em forster, uh merchant ivory made the movie and it's an amazing movie uh what i love about the movie is it's the end of the Edwardian era. So this movie is set prior to the opening of World War I. It's not in events leading up to World War I. But what I love about this movie is that the biggest challenges were not global warming, demographic disaster, national debt. The biggest because it's been almost a century of peace in Western Europe. Unprecedented, right? The Industrial Revolution was a Franco-Prussian war and so on. But for the most part in Western Europe, after the fall of Napoleon in 1815 to the start of the First World War in 1914, at a century of relative peace.
[8:03] So the novel is about the challenges of authenticity, of self-actualization, of honesty, of curiosity, and of marrying the wrong person, all deeply human and non-catastrophe concerns.
[8:23] Now, in it, there is, of course, the interesting challenge of atheism versus Christianity. And the way this manifests is, I won't go into the details of the story because you should just watch the movie. It's a beautiful movie. And in the movie, there is a priest who's giving a tour of a cathedral.
[8:55] And the priest says, the workers were motivated by a special kind of faith. And the atheist says, that just means they weren't paid properly.
[9:12] That is, I mean, what a way to encapsulate two different views of the world, right? Because you can make a case for both. I don't care that much about the money. I want to create the glory of God, right? And so the workers might have accepted less pay to create this beautiful cathedral. On the other hand, saying that you're building it for the glory of God is a way to get them to accept lower wages. Both perspectives can be valid and both perspectives have a great deal of power in them. Now, if somebody in the business world says, welcome to our family, well, it's clearly not a family. So why would he say that? Because he's hoping to plug into the kind of loyalty and sacrifice you would have for your blood relations to a mere legal economic entity. Business is not family. Business is not family. You make sacrifices for family, because they're blood. You don't make sacrifices for business because that's bad business. You know, there are so many businesses that float along in this universe entirely sustained by ridiculous amounts of overwork, right?
[10:37] This is the case, where, you know, the founder is working the jobs of three people and doesn't take any vacations and so on, and the business is making a small profit, but the business is subsidized by By workaholism, it is not a viable economic entity. In the same way that I guess you could stay up for three days straight if you take a lot of cocaine, but it's not a sustainable. Hey, I don't need sleep. I could be a third more productive.
[11:05] Well, no, it's not sustainable, right? It's not sustainable. In the same way that a relationship can be sustained by sexual activity, but it's not sustainable solely on the basis of sexual activity. Because eventually you get disgusted at using each other's flesh as masturbatory devices to the exclusion of any pleasure in the personality. You have to look for these mad people who prop up and pretend that there's an economically viable entity because of overwork. Now, if somebody says, join our family, what they're saying is, I view this business as my family, which means I'll sacrifice almost anything for it, which means that it is likely subsidized by workaholism, which means bad decisions can be made and they don't show up too well.
[12:05] If you're on some drug that produces euphoria, you make bad decisions, they don't show up too well because you're drugged by the euphoria.
[12:15] Now, I'm fully aware that the criticisms of treating a business as a calling, as an ideal, as more than just pure economic entities could absolutely be leveled at me. I mean, obviously, that's pretty clear. But I don't view what I do as a business. Obviously, I do have to make money, I have to pay bills and so on. I don't view what I do as a business. I mean, obviously, technically it is, right? But I'm just telling you my view from the inside. side. You know, when I took, it was a 75% pay cut, leaving the corporate world to do this podcast, I did not view that as I'm not being paid properly. I viewed that as building a cathedral. So I was willing to accept less money in order to build a cathedral. The world needed philosophy more than it needed another software entrepreneur or executive. That argument was obviously completely credible to me and close to 20 years later remains completely credible to me. What does the world need more of, software or philosophy? Code or virtue? You know, pretty easy.
[13:38] So when a business is sustained through overwork it is not a long-lasting business because investors you know you need to grow the business and if the investors come in and they say how is this business sustained and the founder says it's sustained by me working a hundred hours a week and they say okay well what's your profit margin four percent it's like okay well if you had to hire two other people to do your work would you make any money no well then you are burning yourself out to keep something afloat that can't stay afloat without your burnout and if that's one of the signs of that is somebody refers to it as a family.
[14:17] I mean, a business is not a family. If your family members call and you love your family members and they need something from you that's really, really important, I mean, you'll do anything. You'll pay any price, bear any burden, go to the ends of the earth to help them out. That's not a business. If your brother you love dearly needs a kidney, you'll give him a kidney. If you're a match, if your boss needs a kidney, you're not giving him a kidney. It's not a family. Right? I mean, I've had family members when they had kids. I literally moved in for a week or two at the beginning to help them out. I'm not going to do that with my boss, nor would I expect anyone who works with me to do that for me. So family is an invitation to create, like the word family in business generally is an invitation to create the illusion of a successful business through manic amounts of overwork. And it means that people are avoiding making difficult decisions and covering up poor poor management choices, or poor business planning, just with crazy amounts of work. It's not sustainable. And of course, it's one of the reasons why the birth rate goes down too, is that people end up with these crazy overwork scenarios, which are propping up non-viable businesses, and they can't have families because they don't have any time. So, all right.
[15:32] Love this show. Thank you, thank you, thank you. How am I feeling, Stef? Thank you for the question. Not bad. I've been going through these odd waves of a little bit of tiredness here and there over the last couple weeks. And I certainly have a lot of balls in the air. I like a combination of gymnastics and Michael Flatley's Nut Bang and Lord of the Dunce. So i have a lot of balls in the air i'll be happy when this sort of particular phase of significant work is over i really got to finish this i really want to finish this book and get it done and i've been doing a fair number of the paid call-ins which i find fascinating i really do uh i really find them fascinating because not having to worry about not worry not having to be concerned with what goes public or not right because they're not public at all and so you know we can go names dates places i went deeper to dollar value finances for a caller or two and i can really just throw in a sense throw caution to the wings to the winds and be sort of really direct and there's a certain amount i don't have to process the shows afterwards and so on because it's just a conversation right so i've been doing those and those have been good although they can be quite quite intense but they generally are very intense so um and of course if If you want one of those, feel free to book. We have to book a little ways down the road at the moment, but feel free to book it now rather than later. I think my prices are going to go up because there's too much demand, which is a signal that the price is too low in general.
[17:00] So you can go to freedomain.com slash call to set one of those up, of course. So, yeah, I needed to do a little bit of hamster wheeling to make some extra money, and that's been very helpful and good for the show as a whole. And I do, of course, regret that the calls don't go anywhere as far as other people's consumption, but that's the price that's needed to keep the company going. Because you guys aren't behaving like my family. Well, thank goodness, at least my family of origin.
[17:33] So, a little tired, but happy and content that tomorrow I should be finished the short version of the Peaceful Parenting book, which I've really wanted to do. And then I'm going to try and take it a little bit easy for a while because it has been. Oh, yeah. Any updates on that Florida meetup? Yeah, we're kind of looking. Okay, when is the U.S. election? election. I know it's November. But when? Key dates. Oh, God. Oh, God.
[18:12] Fifth of November. So, yeah, I wouldn't want to do it before the election for various reasons. So, it probably will be late November, early December. For it will be in mid florida and i would love to meet everyone absolutely thrilled i mean we used to do these all the time so i would love to meet everyone it probably would be a friday night saturday sunday kind of deal and uh so the process will be in general just for those of you who are interested i've done a bunch of event planning as a whole so the general approach will be, get a number of people to indicate whether they're interested to find out if it's even viable. Like if only five people are available and want to come, then we won't do it. See how many people are available. And then I have to figure out the price. And I'd obviously like to keep the price as low as possible, but I also have to be responsible to the finances. So, sort of figure that out from there. Alright.
[19:16] What have we got here? Questions. Questions, comments, issues, challenges.
[19:21] Treat us like family, but we'll let you off without notice. Yeah, yeah, for sure. All right, let me get here. I worked as part of a, quote, family business, some of the worst management practices I've ever experienced in my life. It's a good buzz phrase to make people feel good. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Stef, what do you think is up with nation-states selling off huge amounts of Bitcoin? Well, A, of course, I don't know. And you're saying, what do I think? So I don't know. But my guess is something like this. That the, because Bitcoin is traceable, governments can't sell, like people in government can't sell it and pocket the profits. So what they do is they convert it to fiat, which is probably a whole lot easier to skim. So I think that they have to do that.
[20:21] I worked in a restaurant owned by a Greek family. Yeah, Greeks are big into the restaurant business, right? Believe me, you don't want to be in that family. LOL. Yeah, yeah. You know, this is relevant to what I was hoping to ask. Thank you, Stef, and thank you for asking the question. Dylan, yeah, good, good. Making every employee do the work of one or more full-time employees on top of their own full-time work is not a long-term solution to the problem of too much work for those available to handle it. If the budget cannot handle it, rethink the structure of the business. Yes. Yeah, people overwork and undercharge in order to pretend they have a business. And it's not good. It's not real.
[21:04] Aren't at least 50 percent of jobs kind of bs anyway no offense to half of you hey hey stop talking about hr i worked in an hr department for a couple summers when i was a student and And it was really, really funny. Nobody did anything. HR is an absolute subsidy to women on their way to becoming cat lovers.
[21:38] HR, because we need good engineers. Years so uh any other questions comments issues let me just check over here glad you're feeling well can you still see rumble comments yes yes i can i can't see rumble comments in fact let me go straight over to rumble and make sure i can see directly yes i can so i do have a topic as you You can well imagine. See you in Florida, Stef. Yeah, be good. Be good. I mean, it's really fun having everyone together, right? So, I do have comments. Listening to The God of Atheists, and now when you mention crappy managers, I immediately think of Davy B. Yeah. Yes, yes, yes. That's my novel, The God of Atheists, which talks about corruption in three fields. It's academia business and music the music industry and uh it's one of my favorite novels it's one that i've written i mean it's one of my favorite novels period but of the novels that i've written it's one of my favorite.
[22:56] Alright, so I'll just wait for a second or more if you all have questions, comments, issues, challenges, criticisms, whatever is on your mind.
[23:07] I will be happy to answer as best I can, or I do have a topic. Somebody says, I have the type of job where they pretend that paying a starvation wage just makes them a good employer, and we pretend we care about the job and them. Yeah yeah says yeah the restaurant I'm working for is finally up and running and I'm not getting paid where I should be but I also realize it's not a great time to ask for an increase until everything is sorted yeah yeah for sure I mean there's nothing wrong with you know you would you start your business yeah you know the founders work for free it's called sweat equity right so the equity is the amount of work that you put in not the money right so I get all of that and I think that's all reasonable and good stuff so I have no problem with putting in extra work to start with. But at some point, it does have to be sustainable, right? At some point, it actually has to be a sustainable business. Otherwise, you are you are LARPing, right? You're you're LARPing as a business owner.
[24:05] All right, let me just check here. So, my topics. Now, this is going to sound like politics, but it's not really. I do dip into the political world as a consumer from time to time. And, of course, I saw what happened with the recent elections in England and in France. That's not great. Not great.
[24:47] And I always try to, you know, when I was a kid, I used to fingertip the edges of my sheets, you know, roll them and fingertip them when I was trying to go to sleep or going to sleep. And I'd always have a good sense, I'd sort of roll my fingers down the edge of the sheets and I'd always have a good sense, always have a really good instinct as to when the end of the sheet was coming to the end. I knew it, I knew it, like a countdown coming to the end. And I've always been fascinated at tracing back causality. What is the cause? And of course, you know, you go back and cause, you go back and cause, you go back and cause and you can always find a cause before the cause, right?
[25:27] And a lot of times I'll sort of settle on, well, when the West ended up with the government running the educational system, it was just a matter of time until, right, things went. So in America, they let the government take over the educational system because the Protestants were worried about all the Catholics coming in, and they wanted to retain American values, so they, at least, which was founded a lot on Protestantism, and so they let the government take over because they They wanted to preserve American values, and now, 150 plus years later, I suppose, it's being used to undermine, sort of, and destroy these values, right?
[26:06] So, I'm trying to figure out, so what is the cause of people denying reality? Now, again, we can say parenting and education and so on, but let me ask you this. Have you ever, this is a pattern, right? Has it ever happened to you that you meet, say a couple, you meet a couple, We can call them Bob and Alice, right? So you meet a couple, and they're super nice, positive, friendly, happy, successful, or whatever it is, right? And they seem interesting and fun and positive and all of that. It could be a couple, it could be an individual, whatever it is, right? Right. And if you're anything like me, I assume that we share some things in common. Then what you do, I call it releasing the scouts, right? You release the scouts, which is the normie test. It's the NPC test, right? Right.
[27:26] So, I don't know, they say something that's obviously mainstream media, you know, propaganda or whatever it is. Right.
[27:36] And you just express some, you know, I'm not sure that was totally the case or whatever it is. Right. Like some, some nonsense. So Trump told people to drink bleach. It's like, I don't think that was actually, I don't think that was the whole story. Right. You know, like, because Trump talked about this ultraviolet light going into veins. It's actually a real thing, right? He just knew more about it. And people were like, he's telling people to drink, disinfect, whatever it was. And so, some normie thing will come up. And...
[28:12] Or, you know, when people say, well, the rich don't pay much tax. It's like, whatever, something they'll just toss out. And I personally, I'm not like, you know, here's the list and here's why you're wrong and here's all the facts, right? I'm not that guy, although it's tempting. But what I will do is I will say, well, I'm not sure that's totally, I mean, I've heard different. I'm not sure it's totally the case. It's a complicated topic, but you know, whatever it is, right?
[28:44] Or you know if people say i don't know you vote for a candidate x and it's the end of democracy and it's like so you can't vote for candidate x you have to vote for candidate y so if you absolutely cannot vote for this candidate and that's because otherwise that's the end of democracy but if you can only vote for one candidate it's not really a democracy right i mean because you're supposed to have a choice right so just little things right So you put out these little scouts, right? And you see what happens to the scouts. Now, you know, I'm pretty good at communicating stuff. And so, you know, if somebody has some normie talking point, right? The global warming is going to kill us all. I'm like, and I said, yeah, listen, I mean, I understand. There's a lot of people who think it's really dangerous. I, you know, obviously don't know the science in any particular detail. But I am old enough to have heard about all of this stuff for about 45 years.
[29:40] Right about about about 45 years and of course if people were really concerned about co2 then you know the first thing we do is have a lot of nuclear power you know like france does and so on right so just little things right not some big thing right so you get the npc stuff now they might be npc-ing because they think you're an npc they might be sending out scouts i don't know right, So you send out a couple of scouts.
[30:16] And sometimes they come back in one piece. Sometimes, sometimes they come back in one piece. But a lot of times, you see people's faces freeze over. It's literally like watching Gollum's mood flips or his personality flips, right? And I remember when I was doing Sunset on the Golden State, my sort of three-plus-hour documentary on California. I was talking to a guy on the street, brought up some questions about immigration. Like, you could just see, whoa, triggered, right? And then, danger, Will Robinson, danger, danger, the Cylons are here. And then you just get static from the scouts, and maybe they'll be shipped back to you in a bag, or maybe not at all. So the people who come off super friendly and then turn super cold when you don't fall in ideological lockstep, you know I mean I certainly had this as well I certainly had this as well you know COVID was crazy I mean did you guys not you must have had this experience with COVID right.
[31:40] I mean i i had this back in the day with um weapons of mass destruction right in in, in iraq it's like well yeah i accept that there were weapons of mass destruction in iraq because america sold i mean they have the receipts they know that they're there right but i do remember saying okay so a lot of saudis and and well and afghani or two but there weren't any iraqi so So why are they attacking Iran? Like, you know, just these kind of, what did Libya do that was so terrible? That kind of stuff, right? Well, they had to open up Libya for the migrants, right? So just questions. I mean, I've always had these kinds of questions, right?
[32:24] And I remember this with the vaccine, the COVID vaccine, or as they call it, the vaccine. People are like, but they say it's safe and effective. And I'm like, hey, I'm not a scientist. I don't know. A couple of warning signs for me, just a couple.
[32:43] Number one, they can't possibly know long-term effects after a couple of months. That's just a fact. No matter how much money you throw at something, you can't shrink time, right? Otherwise, rich people would live forever, right? So, you know, they can't possibly know the long-term effects. I mean, that's just a fact, right? That's number one. Number two, I'm a little troubled that they're demanding, and this is way back in the day, right? I mean, I have the shows about all of this, right? I said, I'm a little troubled that they're demanding a complete immunity from liability.
[33:15] That does not signal confidence in your product, right? All right, it's totally safe, totally effective. and we're absolutely demanding you can't sue us for negative effects. It's like, that's not ideal. Not ideal. Number three, can we get some data? Can you release, like, if it's safe and effective, just release the data. Let all of the internet autists go over it, and for the fine-tooth comb, and Naomi Wolf's entire army can go over it. Like, just release the data. Like why, if you're claiming it's safe and effective and you're claiming that there are people who are skeptical of that, well, release all the data, right? Just open up a portal and whatever you want to search for, you know, here's all the data. You can go and interview all the people who were part of the trial. Here's all the data because, you know, we don't want people to be hesitant about something that is a life-saving measure.
[34:14] Again, you know, these are reasons, And I'm, you know, I wasn't going off half-cocked because I never go off half-cocked. It's impossible.
[34:26] So, you know, just sending out a couple of scouts. Some doubts, some skepticism, and so on, right? You know, people say, well, we just, we got to pay teachers more. And I'm like, you know, spending per student has like doubled in the last 30 years in most places. It hasn't really improved the scores or america's a free market health care system it's like but is it i mean more than half of the money is spent by the government the government controls and regulates just about every aspect of it in fact you can't even open up a hospital if there's another hospital nearby unless you get permission from the government not super free market in some ways i mean certainly elements of it i agree with you but it's not just a free market system as far as you know i'd be tentative and you know hey as far as i understand it and you know all that kind of stuff, right? So...
[35:16] Hit me with a why if you've done the normie scout, right? Like you send out some scouts to test the snipers, so to speak, right? Have you done the normie scout?
[35:33] Hey, you're going to send up a couple of trial balloons. I'm going to see what happens. I find it sort of an interesting exercise. You're good at it? Yeah. Okay, you're great at it, says Zimf. Okay, well, it's good. It's good to know, right? And I obviously can't evaluate, but I'm pretty good at, I find a pretty good way to do it is just to play dumb, right? Just play dumb, right? It's safe and effective. I'm like, hey, I mean, certainly that's what they say. And, you know, certainly if I was dealing with a leftist, right, and they say, oh, vaccine is safe and effective, it's like, but, you know, there is hundreds of billions of dollars in play here, right? I mean, do you not think that corporations might have an incentive to lie? I mean, just curious, right? Yeah, that's crazy. So you didn't watch the game last night, right? Whatever, right? So, you know, just questions, right? Just questions, right?
[36:37] And sending out these scouts is really, really interesting. And I've made some good friends by sending out the scouts. And you see, you see the enforcers. I mean, I remember back when I was doing politics and I did a lot of work on analyzing the French election and Notre Dame and so on, right? And I remember seeing these videos of these French people. Ah, the people who support le racisme, you know, contempt of their stupid scarves and their galatoires and their black coffees. There's this drossy stuff, whatever, right? Just pouring this... Okay, but they would be the enforcers. Right. They would be the enforcers.
[37:25] The sharpshooters. The get-the-fuck-back-in-line peasant. Now, let me ask you this. I'm just... I don't... Because I have my own experience, but it's certainly not universal. Well, by definition, sorry, that was kind of obvious to say. What percentage of people you talk to who aren't part of your regular circle, what percentage of people reveal themselves to be enforcers?
[37:59] What percentage? Yeah, what was it somebody said on Twitter today? They said, I got a weird mental illness, man. I keep thinking that people are going to change their minds when I present them reason and evidence. But people, I mean, they're bought and paid for, right? I mean, somebody on welfare can't be argued out of welfare. It's not a matter of reason and evidence. It hasn't been for generations now. You say 10% or so of people are just those enforcers? like they just they they send out that bone chill that hostility that tension that anger sometimes it's rage uh or scorn like when you just put a foot out of fucking line there's about 10 percent uh somebody says i think most people just fall into a default position and are pretty misguided right for sure and you know if you, if you ask them questions they'll be like oh i guess i never thought of that right, The Enforcers.
[39:05] And the enforcers are interesting because you can feel when the heart freezes over and they're just done. Didn't you feel just done? No, they don't. Usually they don't. How dare you? They don't go full Greta Thunberg. So what they do is they come off very friendly to give you dopamine of, hey, you know, you're a nice guy. You're a great guy. We're enjoying this chat. and it can be politics it also can be um you know hey your daughter seems really nice yeah we don't we don't punish we don't spank we don't yell never called her a name never raised my voice never hit her um we don't punish at all.
[39:52] Well that that leads to some interesting conversations for sure for sure so the The enforcers, sort of the petty, low-grade, local sociopaths who try to drug you with friendliness and then here's the dopamine of friendliness and then here's the cold iciness of ostracism to get you the fuck back in line. I mean you see this happening all the time with the mainstream media witches you know like someone says something they don't like and just you know frozen bitch face resting bitch face and it comes in just 60 minutes they're like past experts at this kind of stuff right, and i think the enforcers in in sort of very important way the enforcers are the totalitarian aspect of society. Because, I mean, obviously the government can't listen in on everything and adjust your social credit score dynamically, at least yet, right? So the government can't do that. So the real social credit score is the enforcers.
[41:05] The enforcers of orthodoxy, the, you know, like the guys in Muslim countries that go up and down with the clubs to make sure that women aren't showing any leg, right? The enforcers of social orthodoxy. They're the tattletales. Oh yeah, for sure. In a, even a semi-totalitarian regime, they'd be on the phone about the secret police with the secret police about you in about 30 seconds.
[41:31] Somebody says I dare because I have one master god no room for another that is why yeah so totalitarian is lateral right it's so here's what I think here's the way I think it works right here's the way I think it works, so the propaganda says dislike these people, now if people don't take it if they don't if they won't do it then the laws don't follow But if propaganda says, you hate these people, and everyone's like, yeah, we hate these people, then you can start creating laws to restrict those people and dehumanize those. Like, the propaganda is the trial balloon, is the scout. And if the population, being herded by the enforcers like sheep with sheepdogs, if the population in general is willing to turn on this or that group of people, then the restrictive and dehumanizing laws fall out.
[42:27] Somebody says, I remember playing social tennis and meeting these German students who put the nose up at the fact I used Telegram. You could just see that someone had told them it's a scary free speech right-wing app. I was just amused at how easily I can rattle these people. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, of course, and just about everything that I say, think, or believe is triggering to a lot of people because we have become allergic to facts, reason, and evidence. So I do think it's the enforcers. I think it's the enforcers. In 1984, the Enforcers were the children. Weird to me. Yes, but Orwell couldn't have kids, if I remember rightly, and he adopted a kid. Yeah, it's wild. So I think that these enforcers are really the root of a lot of these challenges in life. Now, the question is, of course, for me, because again, the root causes, root causes are very interesting. Why do they want to do this?
[43:39] Why do they, why would somebody, I mean, I'm just a curious guy. I like poking over, I like kicking over the rock, seeing what's underneath. I like following the data wherever it leads i'm always curious about root causes, it's pretty tough to offend me as a whole i mean it's pretty i don't generally get triggered by stuff because i'm just like hey i wonder where this leads or do you think a huge flood of dopamine yeah but but of course there's a benefit to them but why right so saying well why do they do it well because they get positive results but that's just another way of saying why do they do it but doesn't explain why they get those positive results because if you know bullying people for or any questions or skepticism, if bullying people gives dopamine, then everybody would do it, right? It's like a sibling snitching to the parents for good boy points. Yeah, somewhat. Yeah, maybe it's an older sibling thing or something like that, or a younger sibling thing usually, or perhaps. But yeah, it's a tough thing. I'm trying to think of information where I'm just like, ooh, I can't have that, or ooh, that's terrible, or ooh, this is unbearable, or whatever it is, right? Right. I mean, lots of things I disagree with, but I'm always happy to hear the argument. I could be wrong and always happy to hear the argument. And my only dedication is to the methodology, not to the conclusions. Right. I mean, if strongly held beliefs of mine turn out to be false.
[45:00] So much the better, because I want to be true. Right.
[45:10] People who feel powerless over themselves so they attempt to have power over others. I know that's kind of a standard explanation. I don't find it particularly satisfying, which I know isn't an argument. But lots of people feel powerless. But that doesn't mean that everyone who feels powerless does this. It's got to be something else, right? It's got to be something specific to this behavior. Otherwise, it's too generic. Are you using autist as an insult? Good heavens, no. Love the autists. Hi Stef, do you have any thoughts on van life? I'm a 27 year old living in California And starting next week I'm going to be living out of a van full time, This is by choice and I see it as a good The hell are you doing living out of a van at 27?
[45:57] You don't want to have a wife and kids? I mean, if you're 21, that's one thing Actually a friend of mine did a graduate degree living out of an abandoned school bus, which I thought was actually kind of cool. But don't you want to accumulate some assets and maybe be married and have kids at some point? I don't know why you'd still be... I mean, what kind of woman are you going to attract living in a van down by the river? All right. We'd love to hear a philosophical analysis of the great Gatsby. What are your thoughts? Didn't I do that? Yikes. Let me have a look. Let me have a look. All right. If not, I meant to. Well, there's one that shows up.
[46:46] Drawing insights from the great Gatsby. Yes. So, oh my gosh, was it that recent? Oh my. All right. So go to free domain, fdrpodcast.com. You can do a search for Gatsby. And 5557, show 5557, three fives followed by a seven. You can check that one out. But yeah, maybe. I would love to see you chat, debate, and discuss with Andrew Wilson, the crucible I think you would align on most things. He calls out the leftists and degenerates it makes for a great conversation. Orthodox Christian. Yeah, maybe, maybe. I mean, if we agree, I'm not sure it adds much. But I thank you for the note about the Great Gatsby. be. I do find it quite a confusing but powerful book. Confusing in that the language is very opaque and he was half-pickled by alcohol at the time. But it's funny how far back demographic concerns go, right? Because that's how it kind of opens.
[47:50] All right. Hi, Stef, I'm going through something right now. A co-worker told me he was on sleep meds, but is cautious to take them because they have the side effect of prolonged and painful erections. I went to my boss about it, and now the guy is getting reported? Okay, that's quite a tale. I feel guilt and anxiety even though I wasn't the one who did anything wrong. This response happens to me often when I protect myself. Anytime I make someone uncomfortable, I feel so much anxiety. Where do you think this comes from? So your coworker was talking to you about his eternal boners? Do I have that? And are you a woman? Are you a female? I think so. Hmm. The Great Gatsby was heavily pushed by the state. Yeah, for sure, for sure. It was the character who had human teeth as his cufflinks. It was just wild. Yeah, the Great Gap, he was heavily pushed by this day, for sure. Hatred of the rich and all of that. It's pretty leftist stuff, right?
[49:16] So, everything that's in the school curriculum is propaganda, right? Everything that's in the school curriculum is propaganda and has been for generations. And it's pushed for generally fairly unholy reasons.
[49:40] So, yeah, I had to read in government school, yeah, yeah, for sure. Yeah i had to read a raisin in the sun for a school and i you know what i got out of the raisin of the sun is that sometimes within the black community there's they pillage from each other and harm them that money was made from my dad's blood right i mean the steel and and they a huge problems within the community uh and it's not necessarily you know just massive racism coming from outside the community, right? So I thought that was an interesting play, Raising in the Sun. All right, let me just check here. So yeah, the enforcers, I think it's interesting. So why they would want to do it? Why they would want to do it?
[50:35] It's a kind of mysticism. So I think what happens with the enforcers is they say, So ideas lead to violence. Certain ideas lead directly to violence, and therefore prevention being better than cure, the ideas must be suppressed so that violence does not occur.
[51:02] They had us read 1984 and Brave New World at my public school. Why would they have us read anti-totalitarian stories?
[51:12] So they have you read anti-totalitarian stories so that they can then associate totalitarianism only with the right wing. I mean i'm not sure if many people know that 1984 was a direct criticism of or an attack upon socialism because orwell was to some degree a socialist and even fought from homage to catalonia his book about his experiences in the spanish civil war so they can say gee totalitarianism is really bad, and then they can say totalitarianism only ever comes from the right. I think Jordan Peterson was talking about how left-wing authoritarianism or left-wing totalitarianism is barely, if ever, mentioned in the same way that female totalitarianism is never really mentioned. So, yeah, they'll say to you, totalitarianism is really bad, and then they'll say, but the only thing that exists is right-wing totalitarianism, far-right, extreme-right, whatever they say, right? So then they can program you saying, this is negative. And it only comes from the right, and therefore, hate the right, or whatever.
[52:24] I had risked death of a salesman in government school. Yeah. Yeah, so death of a salesman's interesting, because the other business guy is actually sensible, right? And this is a story of the back-to-the-family thing. So Arthur Miller wrote Death of a Salesman about Willie Lohman. See, he's the low man on the totem pole. What a subtle writer. Willie Lohman. And Willie Loman is going through a mental breakdown, right? So Willie Loman, he has either some sort of schizophrenia or psychosis, or he has Alzheimer's or some sort of massive, he could have a brain tumor for a reason, he has a massive degenerating brain issue. You and as he goes through these brain destruction the destruction of his brain some manner uh his inhibit in his inhibition mechanisms collapse and this happens a lot of times with people who go through brain disorders degenerative brain disorders is that they start talking about things that they've suppressed and in willie loman's case it was the fact that he had affairs on the road, affairs on his wife, his long-suffering wife, of course, right? And Willie Loman...
[53:42] Was a liar, a pathological liar addicted to status. And so he always pretended to be doing better than he was. He always pretended he was a big shot when he wasn't. He did not accept where he was. He had psychotic levels of vanity, the sin of pride, and he infected his children with unreality.
[54:05] And he thought that he had some sort of magical relationship with his boss that even if he was a bad worker and didn't make any sales his boss would still pay him and take care of him and he had failed to save money for his old age he failed to have a life insurance policy he cheated on his wife he was delusional he his delusions preyed upon his uh his children in that they had to support their father's delusions of grandiosity or he would beat them or or or he was certainly verbally violent towards them we assume physical violence as well and so he was absolutely repulsive character in and we're supposed to have all of this attention must be paid supposed to have all the sympathy for this deluded guy who cheated on his wife stole half stole from his boss and uh destroyed his children, yeah delusions are bad but the good character is.
[55:04] One of his co-workers, I think it is, who says, no, this is just a business, right? He's got to make money. In fact, the boss is quite sympathetic. The boss has sympathy for the guy, but it's like, I still have to make money. I can't just give you money if you don't make any money. I'm not a charity. I'm a business. And it's similar in ways to Biff in The Glass Menagerie. Biff is like, yeah, you can't. You got to be realistic about your opportunities. I thought it'd be further ahead, but I'm working my courses to improve. I'm getting married and so on, right? Right. So.
[55:43] Yeah, death of a salesman is it's supposed to be sympathy for the underclass, but the underclass in general, the peasants are revolting. Right. The underclass in general is destructive, addicted, predatory, exploitive, abusive, unsympathetic, manipulative. A lot of times. I mean, there's exceptions, but people of quality usually don't stay poor. Like, I'm just, you know, I mean, people can get mad at me all they want. I honestly don't care. Certainly at this point in my career, what have I got left to lose, right? But, I mean, I grew up among these people in three different countries, in a bunch of different apartments. I have a wide exposure to the lowest part of society above the homeless. And it's wretched. It's wretched down there.
[56:29] See, the socialists want to create resentment by saying that you can be poor and totally noble. And I'll tell you this, man, I've spent lots and lots and lots of time around very, very, very poor people. I grew up in that world, completely and totally. and there was not one noble poor that i saw i mean there was some okay poor but for the most part they had significant dysfunctions they were bad at relationships they were unreliable they tended to have very short-term thinking they tended to drink away their profits rather than invest it in further education they had a stunning lack of curiosity about the larger world they blamed to other people for their issues. They did not take care of their health and so on. And it's like, because, you know, I think I'm a fairly reasonable example, and I'm not the only one, of course, right? I'm a fairly reasonable example of if you work hard and you're reliable, you don't have to stay poor. You know, how do you get in the middle class? Everybody knows you get in the middle class three things, right? Finish high school, don't have a kid out of wedlock, have and keep a job for at least a year or two. That's it. Like, that's literally all you have to do. Finish high school. Don't have a kid out of wedlock.
[57:50] Get and hold a job for at least a year or two. You do that, your chances of getting into the middle class are almost 100%. Now, that's not brain surgery. That's not the most complicated stuff known to man.
[58:02] But the poor have this truly astounding inability to learn from their mistakes, right? So, you know, like I had guys I knew who were like, you know, they'd go out drinking, they wouldn't get up for work, and then they'd blame the bus for not getting them there on time, or they'd run out of money, and then they would blame somebody who stole something from them. And they're just like, it's a truly amazing ability to externalize all problems and never take any responsibility. And that's one of the reasons why people stay poor. You know, when I got into the business world and became a hiring manager, you know, I've interviewed like a thousand people, hired like a hundred people over the course of my career and, you know, I think with pretty good success. And so i you know i reached back and down to try and help people people who were complaining oh i can't get a good job i'm like hey man somebody gave me a shot i'll give you a shot i'll give you a shot and i i god help me i mistook other people for myself i the guy who complained that that he wasn't making enough, and I got him a job for about 40% more money.
[59:16] And sent him the meeting request, was happy to join him in the meeting. Reminded him the night before, guy didn't show. He didn't show. Another guy I worked with, but he never tried to automate anything. He never tried to improve his skill set. He just came in and did the work and went home and never got anywhere. And it's like, I tried, man, I tried. Oh my gosh, did I try it. I tried to help. And, you know, charity is tough, right? Because, you know, it's like, well, people gave me a shot, so I'll give people a shot. And I really tried, man. Years and years and years trying to just help other people up. You know, reach back and what happened? What happened? You know, I'm pretty good at helping people with relationships, right? Tried to help friends with their relationships, marriages. They didn't listen. They got volatile. They just, you know, raise people up and they fall back down. So just...
[1:00:32] It's hard, man. It's really hard to help people. Really hard to help people. So the sort of Willy Loman stuff is like, well, the poor, they're just noble, and they just want, and they yearn, and they just finish high school. Don't have a kid out of wedlock. Have and hold a job for a year or two. And you're set. You're set. Not complicated. So a woman says, yes, I am female, and yes, you got it right. Coworker told me about eternal boner, and I told my boss. us. I am a PhD student, so academia, but my question is, I now feel guilty and anxiety about this, even though I did nothing wrong.
[1:01:03] I was wondering if you could guess where this reaction might be from, maybe a more quality material. Well, we could do that, but why did you go to your boss?
[1:01:16] So, in general, I'm no woman, but in general, if I was a woman, the way that I would think of it, which you know again i'm not a woman so i could be wrong about all of this but the way that i would think of it is if i'm a woman and i'm in a professional environment and some guy talks starts talking about his penis i'd be like whoa okay no no not going there no no absolutely do not do that do not do that do not take a step in that direction rewind abandon ship eject eject Eject, eject, we do not go there. All right, are we clear? Thank you. So, did you just let this wash over you in a sense? And he's talking about his Dantean boner scenario. And why wouldn't you stop him in the moment? Again, maybe I'm wrong about all of this, but I'm not sure why you would then later go to your boss. So i'm happy to hear about that.
[1:02:26] Ah the issue is we uh we are not close enough to be discussing genitals no it shouldn't be no you should not discuss it's funny actually somebody did put a video together of all the penis jokes i've made in 20 years there's not zero there's not zero, I do think he was socially awkward and that's why I feel guilt, but my guilt often stops me from protecting myself like this now.
[1:02:52] I had an essay assignment. Is Willy Loman a tragic hero? I agreed. He was tragic. Not sure then about a hero. Do you think the school wanted us to say yes? Oh, yeah, for sure. Yeah, sympathy for the poor is foundational to political power. Over-sympathy to the poor. For more on why poor people suck, check out Stef's novel, Just Poor. Yeah, yeah, for sure. The worst people I've interacted with have been from the underclass. All right. So the woman so says well did you tell him you don't think it's appropriate to bring up at work said I don't think it's my job it's quite literally my boss's job but no I didn't when he said it I ignored it I thought about what the convo would look like and bringing up his junk again felt wildly inappropriate and I was uncomfortable I think that info is only for spouse or partner, sorry it's your boss's job to set boundaries with co-workers, is it though, is it, I mean, men are constantly setting boundaries with each other, which is why I say I'm not a female, so, right? But men are constantly setting boundaries with each other. So, is it your boss's job to set boundaries with a co-worker? That's interesting. That wouldn't be my thought, but again, as a male, I'm in a different situation.
[1:04:16] So, I completely agree that it was wrong for him to bring it up, right? But is it your boss's job to set boundaries for you? I don't know.
[1:04:39] I would not think that in particular.
[1:04:47] Um, let's see here. Somebody says, I'm only throwing my two cents out there. That's highly inappropriate that he brought that up. Agreed. As a guy, I could imagine that would be distressing. I don't think I would approach a female co-worker that I didn't know particularly well to vent over it. You could have told them directly instead of escalating it. A lot of people nowadays have zero social skills. Yeah. Well, but he also could be a creep who's, right, wants to talk about his penis with a young, attractive woman. And so he absolutely, it might not be that he has no social skills. He might just be a creep. Right. Who wants to talk about his penis with an attractive young woman, right? So, I mean, I would go with that, right? I don't think you need a huge amount of social skills to not talk about your boner with women who you don't know, right? Right. I mean, in general, even with women, you do know, right? So.
[1:05:46] Yeah, I think I think he was I mean, I would I think it would be creepy, you know, talking about how how firm and permanent your erection is, is not not good professional or nonprofessional conversation material. Material unless your boss is a woman sorry unless you're unless the woman is a doctor and is there to help you my boss is a pi private investigator my boss is a pi of a phd student so he has a mentor his job is to prepare us for after you're correct though being direct in the moment is what i wish i'd done i just felt scared in the moment and then re-approaching it felt like a bad choice, Yeah, this sounds like a creep testing the ward is not just socially awkward. I would agree with that, for sure.
[1:06:34] So, let me ask you this, my friend, and I'm really sorry, because this is unpleasant, right? This is really unpleasant.
[1:06:40] For, you know, for the guys out there, imagine you're sitting at some work meeting and some woman is talking about medication that, you know, makes her vagina as tight as when she was 19. And it's like, no, please don't, don't want to, right? Principal investigator, okay. So, that's really, yeah, that's really bad, right? That's really bad. So.
[1:07:04] It might have been appropriate to go to the boss, because if this guy is creepy, maybe he's creeping on other women, too. And that's, you know, that's just bad. It's just ugly. It's just ugly.
[1:07:17] And wrong. And, you know, women have, and very good for this, women have a very, very good sense of danger and creepiness.
[1:07:28] Obviously, right, women would have evolved that way as a whole. And so uh women should you should always trust your instincts with this stuff always trust your instincts don't even doubt them for a second they evolved for a reason and you should trust your instincts now your instincts are this guy's doing something wrong now if you don't want to confront him in the moment which i can understand maybe he's really volatile you don't want to trip up a stalker or something like that uh then the other thing you can do of course is when this offensive garbage comes up, she says, yes, I think I wouldn't have been scared if it had been any other man in my lab. Okay, so trust your instincts, trust your instincts. If you think he's creepy, trust your instincts. So what you can do, of course, and I don't know the right thing to do. Again, I'm speaking as not a woman, so I say this with all the tentativeness and so on, but another option is the moment that the conversation turns weird, and you should absolutely, absolutely trust your instincts on this, the moment the conversation turns weird, oh, so sorry, I got a, I got a, I got a bolt, I, I left something behind, I, I have to grab something from my, my office. Or, oh, shoot, I left my cell phone, I, I, you know, in my car, like, just get out.
[1:08:50] Just exit the situation with some plausible excuse, right? You say, ah, yes, well, then I've got to go back to the meeting and so on. But maybe if there's a male friend or someone else you're working with, you could invite them back into the meeting. Or you could text the person and say, I can't find what I'm looking for. Perhaps we could just have this meeting virtually. Or there's things that you can do to just get out of the situation without escalating it by, whoa, whoa, whoa, that's enough pee-pee talk from you, young fella. Right so so there's this but but here's the thing and i don't know how this works with women of course right so um but what's wrong with practice right you don't want to try and set boundaries in a moment of high stress with no preparation if that makes sense the problem is that our desks are 9 to 5 in the same lab. Full-time research. So I will be around him every day, all day, until I graduate. Right. Right.
[1:09:58] Right.
[1:10:02] Yeah, so you can train people out of not talking to you. Trust me, I've been doing this my whole career. You can train people out of talking to you, right? So just whenever they come up, you say, I'm so sorry, I'm really busy. And whenever they want to chat, just say, you know, I've got to get this task finished or whatever it is, right? So there's lots of things that you can do to train people out of talking with you, even if they're in the same room, even if they're in the same environment and so on, right? Now, you know, I'm not saying, obviously, I'm not saying it's terrible you went to the boss. I'm not, right? I mean, maybe this guy's a total creepozoid. And he needs to have the person, somebody come down on him and say, you absolutely cannot talk about your erection with anybody in this lab. This is not, you know, this is not erectile dysfunction lab, right? So you absolutely cannot do that. Are we clear, right? I mean, so maybe that helps, right? I mean, I'm sure that will help. So I don't have any particular issue with you going to the boss if this guy is creepy and I'm going to trust your vibes on, like, your vibe on the creep is what counts for me here. because your instincts, I'm sure, are great. So if the situation is that excusing yourself from the meeting wouldn't help, but practice is important, right? So don't do anything in life that's important unprepared.
[1:11:22] Don't wing it. Don't try and figure it out in the moment, right? So all women, and some men, of course, face the problem of creeps and inappropriate conversations. Right inappropriate conversations i mean people i work with face it all the time, but i'm the hr department so it's fine so inappropriate conversations are everywhere and all over the place so i don't know i mean don't women don't women practice, okay if he says this i'm going to say this if he says this i'm going to say this right.
[1:12:01] So yeah no listen um i i i sympathize i really do it's it's a difficult situation uh and you know i obviously can see your picture particularly for i'm not trying to you know give you oval praise but you know a very very attractive woman and innocent attractive women have it tough in the world. I know everyone's like, oh, they got it so easy. It's like, no, no, no. Attractive women have it kind of tough in the world because there's a lot of floating around testosterone and sometimes creepy hormones and whatever it is, right?
[1:12:31] So it's not easy because, you know, you want to be respected for your thoughts and everybody's drawn to your appearance, right? And trust me, I know everybody just objectifies me all the time. Terrible. So, I think the important thing is to practice this, right? So get a male friend and say, okay, run me through some creepy scenarios, right? And then how can I best de-escalate, right?
[1:12:56] And yeah, get an approach 50 times a day by people twice your size who want you naked. Yeah, it's really, it's not easy. It's not to be taken seriously, to have, you know, the sort of, you know, eyes up here kind of stuff. Everyone's always staring at my cleavage.
[1:13:10] So I think that practice is important, right? So practice is important. Right so um maybe this when you if you've got daughters you do this with them where you say okay if this situation happens what are you going to do what are you going to say right just practice so you're not going in blind so with this guy maybe it was totally the right thing to do to go to the boss i don't know when the situation is obviously complex um but don't try and wing it because winging it means you're paralyzed right so for women in particular inappropriate conversations come up and you're just gonna oh i'll just deal with it in the moment it's like but you won't nobody can nobody can so yeah try not to wing stuff and you know preparation is everything in life i mean i prepare for shows even though i've done thousands of them i've done dozens of public speeches and i still prepare insanely for for speeches like when i have a speech speech.
[1:14:13] I think when I did A Night for Freedom, I had a very short speech, no more than 15 minutes. I think I was up on that stage for two and a half hours practicing that speech after writing it and practicing it for days beforehand. So even for a 15 minute speech, I was like eight to 10 times the length of the speech. For me, I call it getting friendly with the space, you know, just getting in the space, doing the speech over and over again, getting friendly with the space, making sure I feel comfortable within it. So then when I go and do the speech, I don't have to. Think about it, right?
[1:14:50] So, you need to practice how you're going to respond so you're not trying to invent the wheel in the moment, which is going to fail, right? So, you are paralyzed because you're unprepared. Like, if you think of, I don't know, somebody says, well, you have to go and take this road exam in Arabic, right? And they start barking questions at you in Arabic, you'd be like, well, I'm not prepared. I can't answer this. I'm not prepared. Right? Whereas if you have to take a test and maybe you move into some place and you've got to take the test, you'll study it and you'll be fine with the test. So winging it is a form of paralysis.
[1:15:26] And preparation in life is everything. You know, in my mind, I've had so many hostile interviews, like just in my head. What if they see this? Well, I'll say that. But what if they say this? It's all just preparation.
[1:15:39] So then when I would occasionally in the mainstream media sit down, and I knew there wouldn't be particularly friendly interviews because i've never i've never had a friendly interview in the mainstream media but when they come at you full guns blazing it's like well i i've already rehearsed this 5 000 times in my head right i've already rehearsed this five so the rehearsal is everything and not just in your head but also out loud i literally have you know while working out i'm like but what about this mr molyneux i'm like oh here's my answer but what about this well here's my answer what about right so and i do it out loud so again i'm not trying to say oh i do it it all right or anything like that but preparation is everything and if you haven't out loud repeatedly maybe a hundred times rehearsed how you're going to handle a creep right because i mean if you're just like okay nope sorry i'm not comfortable with this appreciate you know i'm sorry that you're having this issue i'm really not comfortable with this right just that's honest that's direct right now the odds of that escalating may not be super high of course if anything does escalate then of course you go into the police or to your boss or whatever it is so again i don't know what you should or shouldn't have done but i think if you feel guilty i think you probably feel guilty because you're unprepared you're unprepared and your parents should have prepared you for.
[1:17:03] Guys being inappropriate because guys can be inappropriate i mean women can be inappropriate Appropriate too, right? I mean, I mentioned this before, but I had a number of women promise to get my books published if I would sleep with them.
[1:17:17] I was a scrumptious young fella. So women can be entirely inappropriate and can talk about sexual matters in the workplace. And you just have to find. So I was relatively unprepared. I was probably about your age. So I had to start getting prepared for this kind of stuff. And so it should be families or, you know, ideally, someone who you care about is going to be like, okay, so you're an attractive young woman. Guys are going to be inappropriate it can happen with unattractive young women it can happen with older women it can happen like because creeps don't discriminate that much right, so the important way maybe where you feel guilty is the lack of preparation which is you need to have rehearsed a hundred times out loud how you're going to deal with creeps and there's ways that you can do it and you know maybe there's things that you can things you can read and so on but But don't go in crossing your fingers, hoping for the best, and then be paralyzed when you're unprepared. And I'm not obviously blaming you in any way, shape, or form. I'm just saying that maybe the guilt has to do with a lack of preparation. So that then you felt really awkward and weird and then had to go to a bus. Which, again, might have been the right thing to do. So I would say preparation is key. The readiness is all. I love that speech.
[1:18:40] Let me see if I can find it it's a great speech I have to type one handed because the microphone is in front of the keyboard.
[1:18:54] And what is that? It's a great speech. I love it. There is special providence in the fall of a sparrow. If it be now, tis not to come. If it be not to come, it will be now. If it be not now, yet it will come. The readiness is all.
[1:19:22] Since no man of all he leaves knows what is to leave but times let be i just love i've always loved this now the readiness is all just be ready for things in life especially the predictable things such as you're a young attractive woman guys are gonna occasionally be creepy and again Again, if it's any consolation, I've been creeped on by women and it is, it's tough. It's a tough situation because creeping is selfish. It is exploitive. It is aggressive. And it is, of course, relying on girls who are untutored and unprotected. So, yeah.
[1:20:11] She says, I really appreciate the feedback. I will practice tonight with my brother. My parents utterly failed me. You're very right on that. I told my mom today and she laughed. Oof, I'm sorry about that. Social ineptitude can definitely make people feel creeped out. Sorry you had to go through that. And I hope for your sake, it doesn't turn out to be a creep. Ah, I, you know, I, I don't tend to go too much with the social ineptitude stuff as a whole. And social ineptitude to that degree, where you're talking about your boner with a young woman in the office, social ineptitude to that degree is creepy because it just means that the person has no idea what appropriate social rules are and that's dangerous, right?
[1:20:57] Somebody says, I've only been approached by a few gays in my life. I was extremely creeped out. I don't, I mean, I've obviously, I've lived with gay men in theater school and all of that, so pretty comfortable with the culture. I've never had a gay man approach me. I'm just so super straight. I mean, they can, they can tell. They can tell. And what is it? I remember asking this, oh, why don't the gay guys approach me? And my friend who was gay was like, oh, well, I can't even tell you, man. And he said, I can't even tell you. Like, we know you're straighter than the horizon. I just remember that you're straighter than the horizon. He says, we're all biochemistry PhDs. Social incapability is everywhere, actually. I can't tell if it's self-selecting or not. Okay, but social incapability should be reservation, right? Social incapability is I'm too shy to talk about anything as opposed to I'm rambling on about my eternal boner, right? So I generally don't buy the social all-goodness stuff when it comes to this obviously kind of creepy stuff, right?
[1:22:19] I'm not saying go straight to creepiness, but the problem is so here's here's the problem as a whole and i'm you know maybe this is because i'm a protective dad or whatever but uh this young lady um don't listen to the guys talking about social awkwardness do not listen to them and i'll tell you why you have your instincts you should absolutely trust them i do not want you blunting your instincts by creating this category called social awkwardness. I do not want you blunting your instincts. If you feel it's creepy, go with that. Absolutely go with that. And objectively, it is creepy for a guy to talk about his boner with a woman who's not his doctor or his wife or his girlfriend. So I'm 100% with you on that. Totally with you on that. Totally with you on that. Do not create a category called, well, he's just shy. Well, he's just so-called socially awkward. Do you know why? Why? Because creeps will totally exploit that in order to creep you out more.
[1:23:22] Yeah, I can't imagine a socially awkward person who isn't shy about their penis. Yeah, of course. So, you know, there's this whole category of sort of social awkwardness that has been created that is, and I'm not saying anyone here is doing that, of course, right? But I'm just saying that in general, there's this whole category of creepiness that is being redefined as social awkwardness, and it blunts women's instincts. And, of course, when I'm not calling this guy a rapist, of course not, right? So this is a very extreme example. But for a woman to be raped is the greatest catastrophe really that can be imagined, right? I mean, certainly, I mean, it's evil as it gets. But if you just think evolutionarily speaking, her romantic value is destroyed. She's traumatized. She could end up, of course, getting pregnant and having the kid of a rapist. So women are so unbelievably harmed by rape that women have developed extraordinarily refined instincts regarding this stuff. Now, of course, there are people who say, and I understand that, well, what about the false rape accusations and so on? And they certainly happen. It's a different category. It's a different category.
[1:24:46] Women have evolved to avoid these kinds of situations, because here's the thing, too. Even if the guy is just a creep, he's invading her mental space, right? Because now she's got to go in, even if he's just a creep, and all he'll do is talk and won't touch her even, he's still invading her mental space, because now there's a predator in the room. See, don't also, let me ask you this, young lady, is this guy going to be in any kind of competition for future academic placements or work with you? Is he competing with you for anything in the future? Or will he be competing? I assume so. This guy wants to be a professor. He says, I felt I cannot be the last. And if he doesn't set boundaries now, he might get bolder if that's possible. Oh, it's possible. Oh, it's possible. I'm.
[1:25:44] No, I remember being at a workplace once, and a guy emailed around a cartoon about circumcision. It was crazy. Oh, yes, absolutely. I want to work in the industry, but the community is tight. He will also be around in some way. Okay, so here's another thing, too. It may not be fundamentally sexual in nature. It may be. You've got to trust your instincts. But also, you might want to look at it from the standpoint that this is just intellectual sabotage, so he wins in a competition with you for the scarce resources and tenured positions available in academia, right? So, he also might just be messing with your head so that you get distracted and you're You're sleepless and your work quality suffers and you feel nervous so that he can get the job and you can't. So it's not always, sometimes it's not even about sex at all. It can be, obviously it often is, but it also can be he's just screwing with your head so that you lose and he wins.
[1:26:46] So it could just be a straddler. A guy mentioning a throbber to a woman at work is a bit reaching. Not surprised he got into trouble, yeah. Somebody says, I know a professor who lost tenure because he systematically took his female PhD students to boat parties where his friends groped them. Yeah, he can get bolder. Yeah, for sure. And so, again, I have, you know, shutting it down in the moment may be better. However, it may be better for it to be on the record if he's like this, so. Somebody says, he either needs a kick in the ass from a superior or ostracized by the group. Not great area to comment, even for a STEM guy. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Somebody says, I was shy, awkward, and to be diagnosed with borderline ASD. I have never, ever talked to anyone about something like that outside medical settings. Yeah, for sure. For sure.
[1:27:41] Um so yeah i mean i i yeah again don't feel guilty for being attractive don't feel guilty for this creep doing what he did but maybe the guilt is more around is there more that i can do see here's the thing um the question and this has nothing to do with blaming the victim this This is really around keeping you safe. So the question is, why did he do this, right? Why did he do this? This has nothing to do with blaming you at all. But if, because these guys, he took a huge risk, and these guys, if it is a creep thing that's going on or even a sabotage thing that's going on, he took huge risks. So why did he, right? So there was some marker where he thought he could get away with it, and he thought he did until you went to the boss, right? So I think that you were raised to be compliant, but philosophy has given you more strength, just as it has, I think, most of us, and certainly me included. So you were raised to be compliant and submissive with, I assume, brutal or neglectful parents or both. You were raised to be compliant, and he sensed that. He didn't know that you had the secret superweapon source of philosophy. Right? He didn't know that. How could he? It's not exactly stamped on our foreheads.
[1:29:05] So, I think your nature might be something that people assume is submissive, and therefore they can pull gross crap like this. So, in terms of a presentation, you know, I gotta tell you, here's a... Here's a funny thing about life. Nothing to do with me, of course. Absolutely nothing to do with me, of course. Most people can't tell if you're faking confidence. Did you know that? It's wild. Because if you feel insecure, of course, you think that because it's so vivid for you, You think that everyone can see it and feel it and it's just written all over your face. It's not true.
[1:29:59] She says, yes, this is what I was asking for. I am standing up for myself for the first time. This is not the first time someone has done creepy stuff. I 100% expect him to confront me about it tomorrow versus if this were reversed. I'd be scared to confront if I did something so creepy. Well, now here's the thing. Here's the thing. And I can't tell you what to do, obviously, and I don't know whether this will work. I thought most people assumed that everyone has confidence is faking it. No. So, you know, when I was first in the public realm, before this philosophy show, I would give speeches at industry conferences and other various places and so on, and sometimes I felt pretty nervous, because, you know, I was trained in history, and I wasn't giving speeches in history, but in other sort of more technical business areas, and even though I'd done some research and done some practice, You know, and I went up and, you know, I was kind of nervous, but I gave the speech and afterwards, you know, I looked at the video. I'm like, I look perfectly confident. And everyone was like, wow, what a great speech. You really know your stuff. You know, it's nice to see someone so relaxed up there, right? Right? So here's the thing.
[1:31:10] The guilt will invite a confrontation. Faking being confident to most people is indistinguishable from genuine confidence. And when you understand that faking confidence is a perfect camouflage for real confidence, you can actually develop some real confidence. Do you see what I mean?
[1:31:34] So once I realized that nobody could tell that I was nervous giving a speech, I stopped being nervous giving speeches. Like it works. It's a wild thing. So, with your brother tonight, young lady, this is your homework assignment. With your brother, get him to confront you.
[1:31:56] Get him to confront you with all of the possible confronting stuff he might say. So he might say, hey, why did you go to the boss? I was just talking about a medical issue. Why on earth would you go to the boss rather than talk to me directly? Right?
[1:32:22] Now, do you know how to answer that? Why didn't you talk to me directly? Why did you? Why didn't, why did you go to the boss? You should have come to me direct because he's going to criticize. He could criticize you that way, right? Now, first of all, when you go into the office, assuming it's legal, assuming it's legal, I don't want to know where you work, right? Assuming it's legal, have your recorder on, right? Do you want to have a record? Right, so, guys, if he says, why did you come to me? Why did you go to the boss? We could have worked this out ourselves. Why did you run to the boss? What you said made me uncomfortable and that's all you need to know. Well, why didn't you come to me and tell me that you were uncomfortable? Do you have to run to the boss? We're adults here, you can just talk to me. What do you say?
[1:33:35] I don't know, I don't know. There's no perfect answer. I can tell you what I would answer. What I would answer if he comes and says, Why did you talk to me? Why did you go to the bus? I would say, listen, I don't know what on earth made you think that it was okay to talk to me about your erection, but you were just completely mistaken. I'm not going to try and reason with someone like that. Like, sorry, I don't know what it was in your head that said, hey, I'm going to talk to this woman about my erection. Like, that's not okay. I'm not going to deal with you. I'm going to deal with the boss. Right so and especially like do it loudly honestly loudness is very powerful in these kinds of confrontations so if he comes at you and says something oh why why did you do this why did you do that i didn't mean anything by it right you can just loudly say why did you think it was okay to talk to me about your erection hmm why why would you think that eye contact contact, full confidence, loud. Why would you think it's okay to talk to me about your erection? That's going to make him back down.
[1:34:55] I expect him to say, hey, can I talk to you for a second and try to make it excluded? And you say, no, I don't want to. Sorry, I don't want to. No, thank you.
[1:35:10] You can take the matter up with the boss, but no. No, just don't. Do you want to talk? It's just directness and honesty, right? If he says, hey, can I talk to you for a second? It's like, no, I don't want to. No, really, it'll just take a second. I don't want to. Now, we're going down this hole where you're trying to talk to me about something I don't want to talk about. Do we really want to do this again? How about we don't? Let's not go down this, right? Look up one party consent laws on recordings then company policy yeah yeah at least create a document with time dates or anything like that but you don't want to talk to him privately about this right so just be honest no i don't want to no no just take a second no i'm sorry i don't want to. I don't want to. And be loud. Bullies, if there's creepy bullies, they hate the volume. They hate the loudness. Yeah. No, I don't want to talk to you privately. Thank you very much. No, but you shouldn't. No, I don't want to. I don't want to. Stop. Stop. Just stop. Right? He will have to back down because you are in a position of authority.
[1:36:37] Fake it till you make it. There's some real truth in that. There's some real truth in that. You don't owe this guy a private conversation at all. Women don't owe these guys anything. Nobody owes anybody anything unless you've signed a contract. You don't owe him a private conversation. You don't owe him an explanation. You don't owe him anything like that. Does flipping off somebody violate you, UPV? No. Thank you so much Stef I have a female co-worker who plans to ride with me to work and be by me the whole day doing experiments fantastic but please please please practice with your brother tonight yeah work as many scripts and just, don't be afraid to be loud, don't be afraid to be loud I gotta tell you I really really dislike guys who creep on women I just I just I mean obviously it's the dad and me and so on but I just really really dislike guys who creep on women, i mean i i remember one woman in an office i worked with um telling me the story about a guy who kept asking her out for dinner and then she finally turned in front of everyone and she said hey i'm happy to go out for dinner with you just bring your wife.
[1:38:07] Right? The guys who creep and make these side comments and so on and just alarm women, I just think it's the most cowardly, bullying, bullshit approach that can be thought of.
[1:38:28] Yeah, he might give a sincere apology, in which case you can say, hey, I appreciate that, and let's move on.
[1:38:40] Now, obviously, I'm not saying you do care about this guy, but bringing him up short when he's talking about his, what did somebody call it, a throbber or something like that? Bringing this guy up short is obviously something, it does actually help him. I know that's not your goal, but it does actually help him, and it helps others, right? And as you say, it could help. Academia is ripe with creeps. Academia is swarming with creeps, in my experience. So yeah just even if you're terrified just be loud and direct and he'll get the message again people can't tell if you're faking confidence it's it's the weirdest thing and i i remember just being completely stunned by this i first started giving speeches i guess like public public speeches in the business world, old gosh late 20s or something like that right and i just remember i i also remember um even when i was acting in all of that like i and people were like wow you really dominate you own the stage and i was like oh i hope i remember the lines and so on they don't mess like they don't notice they don't notice if you're only pretending to to there's no then nobody's psychic nobody knows what the hell you're thinking it's just weird because it's so obvious to you what you're you're thinking, and it's completely not obvious to everyone else.
[1:40:08] But yeah, so a couple of takeaways just to encapsulate it. Thank you for bringing it up. My massive sympathies for this. You're welcome, of course, to do a call-in, because the more we can give women power against creeps and men, power against the female creeps, the better, because I really dislike that these guys do this terrible stuff. So you're welcome to do a call-in, and really practice, practice, practice. This is to all women, and to men too, Two, practice how to stand up for yourself. Don't try and wing it. You will fail. He says, it pisses me off too. We have a 16-hour experiment tomorrow. I do not need to be anxious about this as well the whole day. Right.
[1:40:52] Right. So that's why if he does anything, you can be loud and assertive, and that way he can be anxious the whole day. And listen, for men, and this is why I said, you know, right at the beginning, and I say this with absolute deep humility, I am a 187 pound guy who's nearly six feet tall and somewhat muscular right so I don't know, I do not know what it's like for slender attractive women I do not know I do not know what it's like because even though I was a really tasty scrumptious young piece of man morsel I was not physically threatened by anybody who was attracted to me there was no physical threat There was no scariness as far as that because I'm like, you know, 60% bigger than most women, right? So I don't know.
[1:41:47] That level of physical caution. I have it with men to some degree, but I've never been in a fight, never thrown a punch, never received, well, I received one punch. No, more than one from family members. But anyway, never been in a big old fist fight and very proud about that. So I say this, men can just say, well, just do this and just do that. It's like, well, we live in a different universe, right? We live in a universe, where we're bigger than women, as for the most part, and stronger than women, right? And so, you know, So unless you've been around, like imagine, you know, the basketball team, the wrestling team, like these giant guys are picking on you, right? You'd feel pretty nervous and probably a little paralyzed, right? Because you wouldn't be able to fight back. So the last thing I want is for the women who listen to this to be like, well, Stef says just do this and he doesn't understand. It's like, no, I'm very humble about this. I'm very, very humble about this. I don't know directly. I can picture it. I can imagine it. I don't know it directly. Your physical caution, completely understandable. I mean, this is one of the reasons why in the past, you'd get married, you'd have kids, you'd have a guy who'd protect you and you'd be home with the kids and there's less of that sort of risk. Fine, fine. Enjoy your PhD. I'm not trying to say anything about that.
[1:43:07] But this um a woman unprotected making her way in a largely male environment is a pretty new phenomenon and unfortunately there are a lot of fathers who don't raise their daughters to all of that that's a really good point that men don't even realize how much bigger we are oh gosh a lot of men like you know this is kind of a bad cliche like would you rather meet a bear or a man in the the woods it's uh that's rough man uh the level of low-grade threat that women experience in the world is something that's hard for men to understand i mean we just don't do dumb we go through life and blah blah blah and we you know like these big blind bulldozers of muscle and testosterone, and we don't know. We don't know what it's like to live with that level of, no, I can't go out walking, it's after dark.
[1:44:06] Like, go talk to your women. Your women, sorry. Talk to women. Talk to women and say, hey, would you go walking downtown on a weeknight, say, at 9 p.m.? And what are they going to say? Oh, God, no. Like, they're locked in. They're locked in for the night. They can't go out. They can't go out. And so it's, you know, it's really easy for us men to, oh, it's kind of neurotic and anxious and just don't be so worried. And it's like, no, I'm sorry. It's just not reasonable. if you want to know what it's like particularly to be young attractive woman then what you need to do is you need to go to a bad neighbor don't do this but in your mind right mentally go to a really bad neighborhood dressed in really expensive clothing really expensive watch you know really expensive gold chains just go walk around a bad neighborhood how are you going to feel.
[1:45:11] Well you're going to feel pretty nervous there's going to be steps behind you're going to look around. People are gathering. Are they going to jump you? You're going to feel nervous. And women have the treasure, right? So in your mind, imagine roaming around a bad neighborhood with really expensive clothing, maybe a clear plastic bag full of stuff full of cash, $100 bills. That's women in the modern in society. It wasn't so bad in the past, right? But, you know, I mean, obviously you look at places across Europe, rape levels are way up and it's becoming really alarming. And she says, yeah, it's low-level cortisol all the time in my field. I'm usually assertive in the lab with intellectual stuff, which is against my submissive nature, but I never expected something sexual ever. I froze. I will not freeze tomorrow. Okay, never expected anything sexual ever? Oh, come on, really? I'm sure a lot of men have trouble imagining a creepy woman. I can't think of many myself, but again, the stats on rape against men are real. Yeah, no, it can't be. So, um...
[1:46:20] I would view, if I were in your shoes, A, ow, B, this is an inoculation. So this is there to teach you that there is, there can be creepy men around, and this is there to inoculate you against future repetition. This is going to be your, you know, one shot and done. You're going to learn how to handle this, learn how to deal with this, and I get it's a bit nerve wracking, but you'll be fine. So you're going to learn how to deal with this, and then because you know how to deal with this, my strong belief is that because you know how to deal with this now, it's not going to happen again. It's not going to happen again because they sense this stuff. They sense the naivety. They look for the woman who's going to get kind of paralyzed in the moment. And again, they don't know that you've got the backup of philosophy and self-knowledge and all of that to deal with it later, right? I've been here for five years. This has never happened in the lab. Out of the lab, sure. Yeah, for sure.
[1:47:18] For sure. But you still have to practice as a woman. You have to practice how to deal with creeps. Honestly, it's a couple of hours out of your life and it can be extremely helpful, to put it mildly. It could really save you some pretty bad situations. So, you know, I hate that you have to do it. I do hate that you have to do it. If it's any consolation, we men have to know how to not really anger other bigger men, right?
[1:47:49] We have to know when to fight, when we have to know when to back down. We have to know when to not be provocative. We have to know, and especially if there's a woman in distress, right? A lot of men get into a lot of trouble trying to help women in distress, right? Right. And so we have to deal with this kind of stuff from a physical violence standpoint, but women have to do this from a creep sexual standpoint. And so I'm not saying it's the same or equal, but if it's any consolation, it's a human issue about how to deal with aggressive people.
[1:48:21] All right she says i will update you with how it goes i feel i owe you for helping so much it means more than you know and thanks everyone else for their input too you are very welcome and i'm sorry that it happened i'm sorry that there are these creeps out there if it's any consolation sadly they're usually raised by single mothers i thank you for sharing uh this is for the lady too this has been a useful conversation i really need to think about how to make sure that my daughter is prepared to deal with what gets thrown at her by the world yes yes yes yes because you know we We want to shelter our daughters, we want to keep them safe, and we want them to, you know, love the world and its butterflies and flowers and roses and peonies and so on. But we do actually have to prepare them for the fact that there are creeps in the world, and they, you know, really have to know how to deal with these kinds of things. You have to street-proof your kids, right?
[1:49:10] You know, if you ever feel nervous, get out of the situation. Trust your instincts. Don't doubt anything. I don't care if people think badly of you or think you're being paranoid. I don't care. You just get out of the situation. This has been my goal as a man, right? I mean, if I'm in a situation that I think could potentially turn violent, I just get out. I just get right out. Get right out. I mean, I remember when I was younger, coming back from a club, and there was a violent guy on the bus. And I got off the bus, and I was out of money. And this is long before credit cards or bank machines. I was out of money. And I had to walk probably an hour, 20 minutes to get home. And I walked, and I hummed, and I sung to myself, and I was perfectly happy skipping along like the Pollyanna, because I wasn't on that bus.
[1:49:58] Now just get out of the situation now if you can't get out of the situation then and anybody grabs you then i say you know all bets are off somebody grabs you you punch you go for the eyes you kick you scream i don't care you you defend yourself you're as loud as humanly possible you do whatever it takes to get attention and get away absolutely like don't ever hesitate absolutely don't ever hesitate uh and and don't be embarrassed and don't be like what if i've have mistaken something it's like nope it's better to be loud and wrong than quiet and right, so yeah you you absolutely you know you you would i don't have a son but if i had a son it would be like yeah if this is there's violence brewing you trust your instincts you get the hell out you can't win those kinds of things especially these days right self-defense is pretty frowned upon to put it mildly so uh yeah you you have to street proof your kids it's kind of sad i didn't particularly need to be street-proof, but then I grew up in a very, very safe 1970s London.
[1:51:01] Somebody says, I work security. Woman having a loud public argument with her boyfriend. A rounder tried to help. She sides with the boyfriend. His friends jump the guy. Spilled over into the lobby of the downtown office. Shift change. So four of us there got them separated. Huge mess. Oh yeah, no, I miss living in a society where I'd come to a woman's defense, but women keep voting for more and more criminals out of prison, so good luck, ladies. Sorry. So yeah, I mean, the street-proofing stuff is really, really important. It's sad that it has to happen, but... all right free domain.com slash donate to help out the show if i've done useful things for you just by the by since you guys don't know the business swings of the.
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