Keep Your Integrity! Transcript


0:00 - Introduction
15:58 - Dealing with Criticism
27:41 - Lack of Evidence and Arguments
33:27 - NPC Behavior and Insecurity
45:34 - Reach from the Rubble
54:03 - The Battle Within
1:04:49 - Reciprocity in Relationships
1:09:56 - Value and Reciprocity
1:14:24 - Responsibility for Reciprocity
1:15:18 - Self Ownership and Guilt
1:25:32 - Deep Philosophical Questions
1:36:30 - Conversations on Bill Gates and Mark Zuckerberg
1:42:35 - Emotional Roleplay and Relationship Dynamics
1:44:56 - The Unfortunate Private Investigator Incident
1:48:20 - Humor and Social Media Filters
1:51:22 - High School Carrot-Eating Memories
1:53:29 - Gratitude and Peaceful Parenting Offer

Long Summary

In this episode, I start by updating listeners on the release of the Peaceful Parenting audiobook and share insights on selective reading. I discuss my current reading preferences, including a true-crime book and the audiobook of my novel, "The Present." I address the feedback I've received on my work, emphasizing the importance of distinguishing between genuine criticism and attempts to influence. I explore the dynamics of receiving feedback in the public eye, stressing the need for a critical filter. Furthermore, I lead a discussion on the credibility of feedback and the intentions behind it, using personal anecdotes and philosophical insights to illustrate how I process criticism effectively.

We then shift the conversation towards analyzing hostile language in online comments and understanding the underlying power dynamics. I explain how individuals who resort to venomous behavior often do so out of a sense of powerlessness. Emphasizing the importance of presenting evidence rather than insults for constructive criticism, I delve into topics such as self-knowledge, choice, and philosophical integrity, rejecting false dichotomies and appeals to insecurity. We touch on the impact of online behavior on relationships and discuss the significance of transitioning from entitlement to responsibility through donations as a means of value exchange and personal growth.

Moving forward, I delve into the importance of reciprocity in relationships and stress the need for mutual value exchange. I reflect on the concept of integrity as an inherent standard, not something contingent on external factors. I challenge the notion of waiting for external validation before reciprocating value, underscoring the individual's responsibility to recognize and reciprocate value independently. Throughout our conversation, we explore the dynamics of value exchange, integrity, and self-ownership, urging listeners to consider their role in reciprocity and support.

As we continue, we explore the concept of reciprocity and value exchange further, delving into the idea that withholding reciprocation until receiving value could be likened to withholding. I highlight the importance of not allowing external standards to dictate behavior and stress that reciprocity signifies maturity and adulthood. Encouraging listeners to reciprocate value through donations or other means, we engage in a thought experiment about how throwing a suitcase overboard from a boat might affect water levels, prompting a lively and diverse discussion. I consistently emphasize the significance of integrity, personal responsibility, and the value of diverse opinions and feedback from our audience.

In the final segment, we cover an array of topics ranging from physics and suitcase displacement to the development of an AI for peaceful parenting. We also touch on personal anecdotes, nutrition, social media trends, movie recommendations, and reflections on cultural shifts. Expressing gratitude for the engagement and support from our audience, we reminisce about past callers, share light-hearted moments, and conclude with reminders about donations, premium content, and upcoming shows. The interactive and dynamic nature of audience engagement is highlighted, making the episode engaging and enjoyable for all involved.


[0:00] Introduction

[0:00] Hello, hello, and good evening. Welcome to your Peaceful Parenting. I still have, you know, this is the longest little kind of phlegmy-throaty thing I've had. It's been like, it's been my third week, but that's all right. No, no problem. No problem. We are now the 8th of May, 2024, and I have done the Peaceful Parenting book. The audiobook is out. It's 23 hours. The 700 or 800-page book is out. And remember, you don't have to read it all. I would say read the theory for sure. Read the practice. All of the detailed scientific stuff is not super essential. Somebody says, it's a big book and excellent writing. I just seem to have a short-term focus issue on how I miss the days. Oh, how I miss the days of reading books more. Yeah. Well, we've been trained out of reading books, right? We've been trained out of reading books. I've been reading a very interesting book called Sisters of Secrets because I'm going to do a true crime, and I really want to get the background research on it. And it's tough. you know i i'm so trained to like fragmented twitter brain right that that get in the long flow but of course i have the advantage also of writing books i've also been uh listening to the audiobook of the present again oh my gosh i you know sometimes i even amaze myself well that doesn't sound too hard but uh it's so good uh it's so good i'm gonna put the link here just to remind you.

[1:25] The novel, well, all my novels are great, but my novel called The Present, I'm going to put you, going to give you this year, you can go to slash podcasts slash present, and you should get that. It's free, and the dialogue literally gives me goosebumps. It sounds like a documentary. Good morning from Australia. I've already donated twice for the Peaceful Parenting book, and we'll do it again soon. Thanks for all the beautiful work you've done. Mate, cheers. Thank you. Good eye. Thank you very much. slash podcast slash present. Fantastic book. Thank you.

[2:00] I just saw how to just pour audio book with my wife a couple of weeks ago four to five hours in I like the depth of the characters especially Lord Carvey.

[2:09] Serb's daughter and Mary and of course knotted Bob yeah knotted Bob I love that guy love that guy, so and I really do appreciate you know it's funny, it's funny you know when you've been around on the internet for a while since the beginning I was I think, user number three, when you've been around the internet for a while and you put out something that is sort of personal and requesty or so on, right? You know what the trolls are going to say, right? You know what the trolls are going to say. So when I said, you know, I'm just disappointed and upset that I wasn't getting the feedback that I asked for on the book and, you know, the troll voice is like in your head and the troll voice is like, Stefan Molyneux spends two hours berating people who don't call his book the greatest thing ever put to paper you know that kind of stuff right audiobook of the present was my introduction to your fictional works oh good thanks so yeah um stefan molyneux berates guy for donating five dollars you know it's just kind of right what was it somebody was saying um what was it somebody was saying it was like you just berated some guy for telling you how landmines worked you know just kind of stuff. It's like, what? What the hell? What the hell?

[3:32] Do you guys like the troll stuff? Like dealing with the troll stuff at all? Do you like that? Because I've got one. If you want. If you want it. If you want it.

[3:50] So, let's see here. Oh, yes. Here we go. Here we go. I had a nice troll comment, and I know some people really like it when I show you how to unpack troll comments. Loved the audiobook for the present. The part where the dogs had Rachel Cornett had me on edge. Yeah. I had a couple of bad experiences with dogs as a childhood, so I had very vivid stuff there in my gut about all of that. All right. So, here we go. I used to be a subscriber, and now I just listen for free. One of the main reasons was you were just so dismissive of critical comments. The whole, I don't understand that nonsense. You were either deflecting, dense. Also, downloads don't equal people reading or listening to your work. That is marketing wonk. I could download your novel 1,000 times and never read it. And there's a couple of typos and grammar errors and so on and all that, right? Right?

[5:06] So, you know, one of the things that's around that's a hilarious rumor is, well, Steph just doesn't, you can't criticize the guy. He doesn't take any negative feedback. You know, he just, he deflects criticism. He's always right. He doesn't take any negative feedback. You're so dismissive of critical comments. So, the mechanics of this are very interesting to me. Really, really, very interesting. And so let me ask you this. And if you're online, this is a broader or wider question. Let me ask you this. How many people in your life do you take criticism of without doubt? Right? How many people in your life, they say, I think you're doing this, or this is not good, or this is bad, or you're too ill-tempered, and you're just like, okay, like, I'll absolutely listen to that. How many people in your life, Do you have, who have unfettered access to your conscience and corrective mechanisms? I got five. Five. And I would check elsewhere because lots of comments are kicking up all over the place. All over the place, man. All over.

[6:34] Four definitely one maybe two exceptionally rare do you count um yeah yeah i mean i'm yeah i mean if we've had call-in shows and so on uh it says two michael says two zero too many people, right it it is rare right.

[6:54] Now a zero zero one now of the people who have unfettered access to your conscience what percentage of them should have unfettered access to your conscience what percentage of people who already do have unfettered access and by that i just mean they they say there's something wrong and you're like okay tell me like i'll absolutely work on it and you don't have skepticism regarding their feedback does this sort of make sense, you don't have skepticism regarding their feedback you just accept it how many people do you have like that zero percent so there are no people who give you feedback that you trust, and i mean this is important it's an important metric.

[7:47] It's an important metric to understand and to process. So if you've been in the public eye, I mean, I still am to some degree, not quite the all blazing sore on eye that it used to be, but when you're in the public eye, everybody and their dog gives you feedback. Now, feedback is a very interesting thing. I love the feedback. I always start off with the show, you know, with particularly voice live streams, questions, comments, issues, criticisms. Problems, whatever. Feedback is great. But I am and you just have to be this way to stay sane in the public sphere particularly if you're dealing with controversial issues. I simply have to have a massive filter on. Now a lot of people try to program you to follow their neuroses with baseless attacks. And sometimes they sort of gang up. I don't know where people organize this kind of stuff. I know that there are these kind of organizational places like, well, we're going to hit him from every angle and we're going to say, we're going to start the room, we're going to say, Steph doesn't take feedback. Right? Steph doesn't take feedback. He doesn't accept criticism. He's too touchy. He's too prickly. He's too reactive. Right?

[9:10] And so when this comes at you, right, from a bunch of different angles Wilson, you know, over the years, right? Comes to you from a bunch of, you say, oh my God, like, I wonder if that's true. I wonder if, do I have a problem? Like, am I too touchy? Am I too defensive? Staff is so wedded to his theories, he just won't take any even legitimate criticisms to the contrary. He just dismisses and blocks and pants, like all this touchy, sensitive, right?

[9:36] Of course, if people find flaws in my arguments, I know this sounds kind of cheesy, like I welcome the flaws. Honestly, I don't want to go to my grave with UPB incomplete. But there being a problem with UPB, that would break my heart. I mean, I guess it would be some other philosopher who would fix it up. But I don't want to go to my grave where there's still being problems with UPB. So if people have things to clarify things to fix and so on love to hear it love to hear it, but what people do is they want to control you now when you have influence then people want to control you they want to hijack your brain so that you can push their agenda without them having to earn your audience, it's really important to understand this happens in your personal life as well as in your public life So when I had, you know, 10 million views and downloads a month, it's a big, big, big ass audience, right? So what people would do is they would try to constantly hijack, constantly hijack me so that they could push their agenda through me to my audience without actually having to.

[10:56] Earn my audience. Does that make sense? I don't want to over-repeat it if it's pretty clear. But people will do this. Gossip is a way of doing that, right? So if you're angry at someone, you spread malicious rumors about them. Oh, they have an STD or we got pregnant out of wedlock. And then you hope that people will spread that so that it will damage the other person. You're hijacking people for your own agenda. You're using them as an amplification device for your own neuroses.

[11:23] Right so i'm very skeptical regarding feedback of course because most feedback is bullshit most feedback is a hijacking attempt right so most feedback is a hijacking attempt and one of the ways you can tell a hijacking attempt is well let me give you a couple of ways that you you can tell a hijacking attempt because these are going to happen to you all over the place right, okay so what they'll do is they'll say you lost my money you're losing me you lost my money you lost the plot how does that mean you lost the plot so oh yeah and go and look up on x it was a really horrible video of the guy who wrote space jam and kindergarten cop and it was involved in trading with places and so on, go and watch the video of him. Absolutely appalling. Anyway, so, well, not necessarily trying to poison my audience, but they're trying to hijack me as a vehicle to deliver their message without having to earn my audience. And plus it's safer, right? Because if you can use me to deliver your pet peeve, pet issue, pet cause, then I'm the one.

[12:43] I'm the one who takes the hit and you get to evade risk right because I'm the one.

[12:54] Who goes out there publicly, you've got your puppet hand up my ass. I'm the one who goes out and says such and such. Steph, you've got to cover this. It speaks volumes that Steph hasn't said this about the other. Right? If Steph had an ounce of integrity, he'd be dealing with this issue. So it's an issue that's your pet thing. And as a public figure, you get billions of these emails over the years, right? You've got to deal with this. you gotta deal with that, you gotta deal with the other you're right.

[13:31] You know Zelda, you know if I do something people don't like, what do they say? mask off! Joe Rogan finally meets the real Stefan Mullen you mask off! Like I've got a mouth with a tongue that has a mouth alien style, so I never watched Space Jam. I never saw it. So I used to be a subscriber and now I just listen for free. One of the main reasons was you were, W-H-E-R-E, one of the main reasons was you were so dismissive of critical comments. Now, people always tell you the truth, right? Whether they like it or not, people always tell you the truth, right? So he's trying to get my attention because, you know, donations are down. And, you know, if you guys could help out, of course, I'd hugely appreciate it, slash donate. So donations are down if you could help out, slash donate, or you can donate, tip right here in the app. So, you know, donations are down. So he starts off with, you're losing money, right? But now I just listen for free. One of the main reasons was you wear so dismissive of critical comments. The whole, I don't understand that nonsense. You're either deflecting or dense.

[14:53] And dismissive of critical comments. That which is asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence, right? That which is asserted without evidence... No, of course he doesn't provide examples of the dismissive comments, and the funny thing is, is that he is himself, providing a critical comment with no context. I really love your novel, The Present, and the scene with Rachel thanking her father and Oliver's scene with his mother had me in tears when I first read them. Brilliant piece of art. This should be a film right now, not these shitty collectivist films that fewer and fewer people are seeing these days. Can you imagine a film that turns the laser eye of philosophy on the daycare industry? Thank you. I appreciate it, Lloyd. Thank you for the tip.

[15:54] So, dismissive of critical comments.

[15:58] Dealing with Criticism

[15:58] And if you want to hijack somebody in the public eye, let's say you want to influence somebody in the public eye, well, you have to earn it, right? I mean, you have to earn it. And so, if you want me to change my mind about something, I mean, it's a philosophy show, right? It's not an opinion show. Yeah. What? Somebody levying criticism against you and doing the exact same thing they're claiming you do? No, people don't do that. Slash, very heavy sarcasm. Yeah, yeah. One of the main reasons was you were so dismissive of critical comments well if people are going to tell me I'm wrong without telling me why, then they're either not even remotely intelligent enough to respond to or they are so early in the days of philosophy they don't know what is required to change the mind of a rational person.

[17:01] And also, what they're telling me is they, and I sympathize with this guy, I do, because what they're telling me is, I was verbally abused and bullied as a child, and so the only way I know how to get something done, or how to change someone's mind, or how to influence someone, is to threaten, bribe, and abuse them. Because what he's saying is, well, Steph, the reason why your donations are down is because you don't accept criticism. Right? Now, maybe if you accepted more criticism, then I'd be a donor again, right? Just maybe, just maybe. If you accepted more criticism, I'd start donating again. Like I'm for sale. It's so sad. it it's so i mean so it just means that this is somebody who has a lot of unprocessed trauma which i really do sympathize with i know this sounds like oh love your enemy stuff like i really really do sympathize with the amount of trauma that this guy must have gone through to think that he just needs to be um bribey and mean and i will change what i do, why would someone get the idea that if you threaten someone and I know it's like you say well I'm not donating because you don't accept criticism so that's kind of like a threat that.

[18:29] I'll pay you if you do I guess it's kind of like a bribe it would be a bribe, if he said I'm donating but if you don't accept more criticism I'm going to stop I'm going to stop being a subscriber but this is a it's kind of a threat right, you're so dismissive of critical comments. The whole, I don't understand that nonsense. So, when I say I don't understand something, do you know what that's code for? Do you know what it's code for when I say, like, what am I really saying when I'm saying I don't understand something? What does it really, really mean? If you peel back all the layers and all the depths and the complexity of the dog whistles, what does it really mean when I say, I don't understand something.

[19:21] Now, it's a bit of a spoiler. So, when I say I don't understand something, what I'm really saying is, I don't understand something. Yeah, it means I don't understand. If somebody's going to say something that's vague or undefined, or like, I don't understand. That's what, when I say I don't understand. So, what he's saying is, Steph, you're either deflecting or dense. So he's saying that when I say I don't understand that, I'm lying. Now, of course, this is basic Socratic stuff. Also, he tells me he's never read any philosophy, because this is basic Socratic stuff. So Socrates, when he meets a man who's bringing a lawsuit against his father, because his father may have caused the death of a servant, and he's like, well, it's justice, right? And Socrates is like, wow, you've got to be super confident of justice in order to bring a suit against your own father and maybe get him thrown in jail or executed. You've got to be really, really solid on what justice is. I'm confused sometimes, a lot of times, about what justice is so I can sit at your knee and I can learn about justice and that's how. So I don't understand. I don't understand.

[20:43] But because he's saying, and this is basically projection. This is how you defend yourself in the world. This is not a chance comment, whatever, right? But this is how you defend yourself in the world. If somebody's doing what they're accusing you of, you can dismiss them completely. Because if they're right, they're only right accidentally, and you don't, you don't, want to trust someone who's only right accidentally because they're not right because they can't reproduce it, right?

[21:20] You know, like if somebody says, who makes a lot of SD cards, and you hear that as what's the capital of Jamaica, and you reply, Kingston, or what's a big city in Jamaica, right? Kingston. Well, that happens to be, but you're not right. Just an accident. And the way I've sort of explained it to my daughter is, you know, we play mini golf. Mini golf's a lot of fun. I can never find quite the right cool one. I always have this image of the windmill, and you've got to hit it through. It's always just some curvy thing. So I say, if you... If you have to bet on two people, one of whom is a really expert putt putter, a really expert mini golfer, and the other one is a three-year-old kid, and you just saw the three-year-old kid like blindly swing and get a hole in one, who would you bet on? Well, you'd bet on the guy who's the really experienced and well-tested mini putter, right? Because it's true that the three-year-old just hit a hole in one, but it's totally accidental. It's not reproducible. It's random. So people have to have a consistent methodology to gain credibility with me. So let's say somebody happens to land on a criticism that's valid. If they still don't have a methodology, then why on earth would I listen to them? Because they're never going to be right again. If that makes sense.

[22:49] So, the whole I don't understand that nonsense, you're either deflecting or dense. Now, of course, downloads don't equal people reading or listening to your content. Of course not. I could download, and it's two words, down, space, load, which is another error, right? I could download your novel a thousand times and never read it. Blindingly obvious. and that's why I say this many novels and books downloaded a month I can't say read because I don't know, so anyway I mean.

[23:30] There's a lot of hatred and contempt in this kind of language, and try as best as you can and genuinely humble advice I don't know if this is going to work for you I think it works for me so this is very very humble advice I hope that you'll accept it in the spirit in which is intended very humble advice my humble advice is this so what is going on with this person right well what's going on with this person is you know there is this sort of contempt and this anger and hostility and so on, right? This was not an email. It's a comment under a video. Now, what's underneath the anger? What's underneath the contempt? What's underneath the hostility?

[24:27] Powerlessness. People escalate when they're powerless. Now, when I have a strong filter, for the advice that I take, then manipulators are powerless, right? And powerless people, if you want to understand, just think of a rap or a song or a poem where you rhyme powerless with venomous. It's not the perfect rhyme, but it's not the opposite of a rhyme.

[24:57] Powerless and venomous. Deplatforming is powerless and venomous. Verbal insults, bribes, threatening to withhold money, saying that you don't pay me anymore because I just don't do X, right? That is venomous, and what's underneath venomous is powerless. Venomousness equals powerlessness. And it's really, it's very tragic. It's very tragic. So this person wants me to believe or accept something. And this person won't make a rational argument with any kind of evidence, right? So he won't say, for example, for example, Steph, here you got a legitimate criticism and you just blew up and yelled at someone, right? Could that have happened? I don't think so. So it's possible, you know, maybe I was going through an estrogen peak or something. I don't know, but it's possible, right? It's possible.

[26:04] So if someone were to say, and of course, they'd have to be a bunch of times, right? So just once, right? One swallow does not a summer make, right? So there would be, you know, here's an example. And if someone cared about me being too volatile and being dismissive of actual critical critical, rational arguments that were critical of me or critical of mine. Because you can't criticize me. You can criticize my arguments. What are you going to criticize me about, right? I mean, I'm not that interesting. It doesn't matter. I'm going to come and go, but hopefully the philosophy lasts and grows, right? I'm just like a bird flying through a room, right? It's the droppings that count, right? It's what leaves behind.

[26:47] So, he wants to change what I think. He wants me to do something, wants me to not do something. Do something or refrain from doing something. That's what, right? You want someone to buy a product from you. You want them to do something or you want them to not do something, right? Maybe don't vote for a big government party or something. So, and there's a helplessness. How do I get Steph to do what I want? Well, I can go through the hard work of figuring out where he's made the arguments, right? So this guy, either he saw me do what he's accusing me of doing, right? I'm just dismissive of critical comments, right? So of course, he doesn't mean if somebody's verbally abusing me, right? And I dismiss that. I mean, he wouldn't say that's a bad thing in any sort of rational universe.

[27:41] Lack of Evidence and Arguments

[27:41] So he's seen me do something legitimately intellectually not great right so then he's got the work of saying well i want to change steph's mind so i need to gather some evidence and some facts right and so i'm going to say okay so here's the situation here's the video here's the time stamp here's the argument here's what happened here's your response and blah blah blah blah right in other words he genuinely wants to help me or help philosophy or have me gain credibility or something like that he wants to do something to improve me so he's gonna.

[28:14] Give me evidence right does this sort of make sense.

[28:18] And that would be great.

[28:26] Is, um, that would be great. Like what a wonderful thing to do, right? What a very helpful and wonderful thing to do. But he's not doing that. What he's doing is he's just thumping at me like you would thump at a TV hoping to fix it, right?

[28:47] And he's too impatient, right? So he wants to get the legitimacy of criticism while only insulting me. This is very common in life, right? Hit me with a why if this has happened to you in your childhood, in your life, right? He wants the legitimacy of criticism, and he's the only one calling you out. You would think more people would speak up. No, this has become a bit of a trope. Steph trashed someone for only donating $2. Steph doesn't take criticism, blah, blah, blah, blah, right? It's become a bit of a cliche, right? So what's really going on? Well, to earn the right to be respected for your criticism means that you have to bring a solid case, right? Right? That you have to bring a solid case because otherwise I'm just folding because someone's mean to me, right? Now, if I was going to fold because people were mean to me, I would have been an origami about 17 years ago. But that's not going to happen. I'm not going to fold because someone's mean to me because that's the purpose of philosophy is so you know whether somebody can be trusted or not. One of the main purposes of philosophy is to filter out manipulative douchebags.

[30:12] And the false dichotomy thing, right? The whole, I don't understand that nonsense. You're either deflecting or dense. I mean, how sad is it? Genuinely tragic that somebody would imagine that I'm going to accept their false dichotomy. I mean, this literally is on the level of, have you stopped beating your wife yet? Questions. Well, you're either this or that. It's like, why on earth would I let sign a mononymous stranger ranger, give me a binary proposition about my entire life. Am I wrong? That's the saddest thing around, right? That is the saddest, saddest, saddest, saddest, saddest, saddest thing around. Well, you're either this or you're that. It's like, why? Why? Why would I even remotely accept you defining my life? Why? How could that possibly be a thing that I would allow you to say, well, you're either this or you're that, with no proof? Which are you? Are you deflecting or are you dense? It's like, why on earth would I possibly listen to someone giving me a false dichotomy like that? It's wild to me that this would cross someone's mind, right?

[31:39] You know, it's like somebody calling you up and saying, well, you're either running north or south. It's like, why?

[31:49] You know, you either give me $100 or you don't love your wife. It's like, what? Like, it really is such a POS way to speak to someone. Well, and what they're confessing is, like, I view this as a kind of possession. I really do. I view this as a kind of possession. This person, they're not themselves. You're just not yourselves when you're hangry, right? So, there's this meme of this woman who stole, a guy just died at the hospital, and a nurse stole his debit card to go and buy some snacks from the vending machine, and somebody said, well, you're just not yourself when you're hungry. I view this as possession. I view this as a lawnmower that got free of a person and it's just kind of rolling down a hill, right? It's dangerous. I get that. It's a little dangerous, a little alarming, but I don't view this as a person who's making choices. I view this as a person who's possessed by a lack of self-knowledge. They don't have choice because they don't have self-knowledge. And if you don't have self-knowledge, you can't really have choice.

[32:58] So I view this as literally it's an NPC written by another NPC written by another NPC that was auto-generated from AI. I take it about as personal as that. Right? If you had insult-o-bot, which actually would be kind of a funny AI, right? Just glorious, genius insults, right? Be kind of funny. But if an AI roasted you, it would be funny, right?

[33:27] NPC Behavior and Insecurity

[33:27] It wouldn't be personal. thank you uh c2 spark or c2s park or c2sb arc or c2sba anyway or at so it's not personal this is not somebody who's making a thought and applying any kind of independent evaluation and going through the reason and the evidence and trying to help me be a better philosopher or whatever it is or somebody who even is frustrated but knows that they're frustrated and tells me why i'm not, I'm not reaching my own lofty standards like all of that right this is not somebody who's thinking it's not somebody who's making a choice it's not someone who's going through any rational process, whatsoever it is just.

[34:15] Regurgitating an NPC script that was dropped in them by their abusive parent whose NPC script was dropped into them by their abusive parent and it's just copy-paste, copy-paste, copy-paste. The way you get someone to change their behavior is you bully and insult and bribe and threaten them.

[34:37] That's how you get it. If someone's a philosopher and wants to improve, you don't give them evidence, right? And this is also, you don't give them evidence, you just give them insults. But here's the other thing too. So this is an appeal to insecurity. Man, if you peel away the appeals to insecurity in your life, your life becomes so much better. I'm telling you, friends, your life becomes so much better if you peel away appeals to insecurity, right? So the appeals to insecurity are.

[35:20] Well, Steph, you know, you know that you're dismissive of critical comments. You're just pretending to not understand things. Right? You're just, you're just pretending, right? You know, there's this horribly overused couple of phrases. The most common movie line phrase is, let's get out of here. But one of the ones I hate, right, is, well, that's not the case. And you know it. Right? And you know it, right? And you know it. And so, this is the appeal to insecurity, right? You're either deflecting or dense, right? That's the appeal to insecurity. Oh my, maybe I am, maybe I am, maybe I am unwilling to accept criticism. I mean, I do have all of these, I have an entire series of shows called I Was Wrong About and I've apologized to Christians for my rudeness and hostility. So it is the appeal to insecurity. Maybe I am not, like somebody's so upset with me that I must be doing something wrong. Like I've really upset this person. I used to be a subscriber and now I just listen for free. I hate listen, right?

[36:48] So yeah if you drive away and how the only way you can survive the appeal to insecurity is to, require proof you don't expect that you demand it but you require it i don't expect proof i certainly don't demand it i'm not going to reply to this guy and, i demand you proof he wants to give you a complex no he doesn't want to give me a complex he wants He wants to hopefully strip mine a complex that's already there, if that makes sense. He wants to exploit a weakness that's already there.

[37:26] So, oh, you're dismissing critical comments. The whole, I don't understand that nonsense. You're either deflecting or dense. Well, obviously I'm not dense, right? So you're just deflecting and you know it, right? The and you know it stuff is the attempt to implant a kind of complex in you, right? And I mean, I'm not kidding when I say this.

[37:51] Like, it's funny. You know it's it's funny like it genuinely is transparently ridiculous right, because and and you understand first of all you can look at someone like this as just being mean right and so you guys are saying this and i understand this and i'm not you know i'm not going to try to say you're totally wrong right so you say oh he's just trying to dunk on you in my opinion and yeah that's true he says well if he manages to get through in offending you in his mind he will have bested you and that is evidence of his sheer brilliance yeah that's true uh somebody says want to say your peaceful parenting book is brilliant painful and everything in between i did send you an email apologizing for not giving feedback and really want to dig deep in the email as to why i didn't i hope it helps you thank you yeah he wants to give you a complex uh it's a classic attempt to elevate yourself by putting down others man that is so vicious i get that i I get that. But what I see is I see someone trying to free himself.

[39:02] I see someone who's trying to free. And I know this may sound weird, right? It may sound weird.

[39:17] And I think, because he's coming to me saying, please, please, please call out the demons who have me by the throat. Call out the bullying. Because look, this is just some guy's comment on my video, but what I see, and I don't want to be pathologically altruistic or anything like that. So, I mean, again, it's bad behavior, but what I see is imagine dating this guy. It's a guy for sure, I think. But imagine dating this guy. Imagine that.

[40:01] Imagine trying to be friends with this guy. Imagine how much he's alienating and driving away any person of any quality in his life by being, you know, kind of petty and vicious and mean and exploitive, right? Because if I'm such a bad guy, why are you still listening, right? So if he genuinely thought, oh, Steph's a manipulative son of a bitch and doesn't take any feedback and just pretends that he doesn't know things just to control people, then he'd stop listening, wouldn't he? But he knows I tell the truth and I view this as a reach from the rubble. That's what I call it in my head. This is a reach from the rubble. I'm buried by shitty people from a shitty past. I'm buried. Like the fucking ceiling just collapsed on me. The walls are caved in. I'm buried. And it's a reach from the rubble. I want to make sure this makes some kind of sense to you guys. It's a reach from the rubble. He's buried.

[40:58] He's buried. And he's come to the one place where he's going to get some truth. Right? So he's goading me. So on the sort of conscious level, he's mad at me. He thinks I'm a terrible person and he's goading me. But what's underneath that is the reach from the rubble. Help me, for God's sakes. Nobody else is telling me the truth. I can't, I can't get out. I can't break this habit. And, and because what happens, of course, if you, you know, if you behave in shitty ways, you end up with shitty people around you, right? That's just a basic fact of life, right? If you behave in shitty ways, you end up with shitty people around you. And so who around him is going to tell him the truth? Who around him is going to say, listen, yeah, it's shitty behavior. I'm not going to get mad at you. I'm not going to humiliate you back. I'm not going to whatever, right? Most people would just walk away from him and not try to help him like you are now. Now, well, the reach from the rubble is the interesting thing. Oh, that's a very meaningfully compassionate way of looking at it. Well, and that's why I say I'm not going full pathological altruism, right? And I'll tell you why. I'll tell you why. Because, do you know what the reach for the rubble is sometimes? Or you can say the reach from the churning, green, boiling waves of ocean, that you're on a dock and the hand is reaching up from the boiling sea below.

[42:24] A lot of times, you guys can tell me what you think the ratio is, but a lot of times, the reach from the rubble is to pull you down. He doesn't want... So this is a battle, and it's a battle in the heart, mind, and soul of man, right?

[42:45] I'm trapped with shitty thinking. thinking, I'm going to provoke someone who I know is going to tell me the truth, and he knows I'm not going to be abusive back, right? So I'm going to provoke someone, and part of me wants to be saved, and part of me wants to damn others, right?

[43:11] And I didn't see, but here he has left another comment. This is interesting. Okay, so I wrote a couple of hours ago, I just wrote, it's your conscience, not mine. Right, it's your conscience. So when he says, well, I just, now I listen for free and blah, blah, blah, right? So this sort of meanness is like, it's your conscience, not mine. And he says, he says, thanks for the reply. I'm giving my feedback as to why you may not be getting feedback. To be fair, I've enjoyed your content, read your books, and have donated, and have given feedback about your novels via email. Almost novel. I mean no ill will, but your dismissiveness on comments in the community turn me away. I understand, as you explained, you are not long for this world and don't want to waste time. That sounds like a threat. I know it's not, right?

[44:01] So I said, it's your conscience, not mine. And what I mean by that is, you think you're trying to hurt me by behaving badly, right so to me this is the equivalent of somebody punching themselves right so my conscience is clear right i my conscience is very clear doesn't mean i'm perfect obviously but my conscience is clear so if somebody behaves in a hostile or negative or mean way to me you know unprovoked right, then they're hurting themselves. Like, it's your conscience, not mine. So if you're going to listen to my work and consume the fruits of my labor and not pay a penny, that's your conscience, not mine. And this is a really, really powerful thing for me. I mean, I hope it's helpful for you. It's your conscience, not mine. Well, I'm just not going to pay you a penny. It's like, because, you know, listen, I mean, I'll be frank with you guys. Most people don't donate. Right? Most people don't donate.

[45:08] I mean, the vast majority of people don't donate and never do. And it's their conscience, not mine.

[45:17] Right? I have to do the very best that I can do to help the world and its members. I have to do the very best that I can do to help the world and its members. That's my conscience. So if somebody is mean to you, You say, it's your conscience, not mine.

[45:34] Reach from the Rubble

[45:35] I'm innocent in this. I've never talked to this guy. Maybe he sent me feedback. The novel Almost I read like four years ago. So maybe he gave me some feedback on Almost, which is nice.

[45:47] Donations are skin in the game. But yes, but donations are a conscience thing. Donations are an escape from childhood, right? Because when you're a child, you don't have to provide value. When you're a toddler and you're a baby, you don't have to provide value. You just have to exist. exist and resources are showered upon you by your parents. Donations are a way of saying, I mean, be frank with you guys, right? Donations are a way of saying, I'm not a toddler anymore. I have to exchange value for value. I'm not here to consume. I'm not going to treat staff as some infinite resource mommy, daddy, right? When you're a baby, you don't have to earn your daily bread and you don't have to exchange value. And I'm trying to woo people to adulthood here, right? I'm trying to really, really woo people to adulthood. And adulthood means you exchange change value for value. And you can't get any other place with this kind of value. I mean, I genuinely believe that. I would go to my grave believing that. That's my commitment. That you can't get any other place with this kind of analysis and this kind of.

[46:49] You know, raw practical honesty and principles. Some people don't have consciences. Yes, but they tend not to stick around here, Evan, in general. So it's not just getting in the game. Donations are... So, you know, one of the things that people don't like about some aspects of modern hyper-femininity, right? So have you ever had this situation where you date... I've had this. you date a girl and you keep taking her out and you keep paying for something, and it's all a one-way street because I don't consider sex or anything that's not a payback because then it's just prostitution but it's all like maybe you've got some money and she's broke but she doesn't cook you a meal, right so it's just one way right, now that's indicative of a woman stuck in a very early mindset, right you serve me i don't have to provide reciprocity so it happens at the very lowest and the very highest levels of power the very lowest level of power being a baby the very highest level of power being a king the king doesn't have to provide reciprocity to the servant or the slave or whatever right.

[48:07] And so there's an arrogance in non-reciprocity you work for me and i don't have to give you a goddamn thing well that's the abusive parent right and on the flip side i want to consume and i don't want to donate because that would be to exchange value for value that's the infant right so the abusive parent is hey you work for me and i don't give you a goddamn thing right you live under my house you do as i my rules i'm not paying you for doing chores right, so that's the arrogant parent or authority figure and then there's the helpless infant and toddler, right? When you don't go to your toddler, like you don't go to your two-year-old and say, well, here's three hours of chores. If you do that, you'll get your dinner. That would be abusive, right?

[48:53] So the call to donate again you know if you listen consistently and and therefore you've gotten value and you also know that you can't get value like this anywhere else you can't you can't get value like this anywhere else because of the wide variety of topics that we cover and i think the sensitivity and firmness like morality with empathy but that without weakness is a very heady brew and it's very rare in society right morality sometimes means just weakness and you know everybody who's in need you just support them and and enable them and and so on right or you know it's like tough guy suck it up stop crying move all right so but to have empathy with standards and firmness is not a common combo and i've worked pretty hard to try and manifest that and in myself and therefore in the world. So the donation thing is you need to be an adult and you need to exchange value for value. I'm inviting you to the big boy's table, to the big girl's table. I'm inviting you with the boat off the Lost Boys Island, right? Off Peter Pan Island, right? Exchange value for value. You'll feel better.

[50:06] Because if you exploit me, and I say this with genuine like, Like, hey, if you're just starting out, you're listening, enjoy, listen, don't even think about it. Also, if you're broke, don't worry about it. Please work on getting your income up. So I'm just talking about people who've been around and, you know, can afford 20 bucks, right? If you've listened for hundreds of hours, it's like two cents an hour, right? It's 20 cents an hour. It's a pretty good deal.

[50:34] So it's kind of exploitive to consume without reciprocity, right? It's kind of exploitive. It's like if you have a friend and maybe he's got a bit more money than you, but he just keeps inviting you out. You keep going out places and he pays for things, right? Thank you. I appreciate it. So, but if you just keep letting him pay and you never offer to pay and maybe you don't have much money, but at least you can offer something, right? You can offer something. You could cook him a meal or, you know, something like that, right? But if it's one way, it's a, both vain and helpless, right? So excessive vanity leads to exploitation and excessive helplessness leads to exploitation in a sense. Like when it's not age appropriate, right? So babies struggle should not be required to be reciprocal, right? Although it happens very early. Like I remember my daughter being like five months old and me feeding my daughter and then she grabbed the spoon and turned around and fed me. Yeah, gas pressure washing his driveway, et cetera. You know, or at least help the guy move or, you know, something like that, right?

[51:41] Somebody says, it took me a little while to donate for the first time after discovering you because I was originally unconvinced and had to work through the rationality of your arguments. After being convinced of the philosophy and rational methods here, I also had to agree with your value-for-value argument. I've been donating as consistently as possible ever since. Now that's interesting. So that's interesting. So in order to get your donation, I had to be right.

[52:07] That's interesting. I'd never really thought of that before. In order to get your donation, I had to be right.

[52:15] That's interesting. So it wasn't the courage of what I'm doing or the, I mean, pretty deep humanity I bring to these thousands of call-in shows that have really, really helped people. Or, you know, all the peaceful parenting stuff I've talked about, the ACE stuff that I've talked about, you know, all of the IQ stuff that I, like all the, you know, the really, you know, pretty wild and controversial stuff. It's not that courage and directness and so on. I had to be convinced of the value. Ah, you see, now, that's a very interesting question. And I don't have an answer to this. Yeah call in at free domain dot com yes if you want to set up a call in call in at free domain dot com so you had to be convinced of the value now that's interesting right if you didn't get back to us regarding showing up on other content creators platforms uh okay i will um.

[53:07] So I would say, I would say that I had to be convinced of the value. The value is the consumption, right? The value is the consumption. So if you're listening to me and I'm giving you stimulating thoughts and I don't have to be perfect, I don't have to be right all the time or every time, but the value is that you're consuming. Because the cost for me, whether I'm right or wrong, is the same. In other words, you downloading and watching isn't free for me if I'm wrong, but it only costs me money if I happen to be right. So as you consume, you're costing money. There's no neutral consumption here, right?

[53:55] When you consume what I do, you're costing the show money, right?

[54:03] The Battle Within

[54:03] And I'm not putting ads in and so on, right? And this is not an ad for donating. I'm just sort of telling you the reality, right? So if you say, well, I've listened to 50 hours of Steph, but I have to be convinced to the value, I think that is not quite accurate. I think the fact that you've listened for 50 hours or a hundred hours or whatever, that is the value, whether I'm right or wrong, because certainly that's the cost, right? If that makes sense. And the fact is that you've kept listening. And the fact that you've kept listening means that there's value in that innately, right?

[54:40] To get my subscription, you had to provide value. It didn't take long. Ah, you know, I'm sorry to be such a nag, and I could be totally wrong about this, but my gut sense, which doesn't mean it's accurate, but my gut sense is, you are putting whether I provide value on me. I remember 25 cents show in your argument of distribution of labor. You inspired me to donate to all content that I consume. Oh, that's good for you. I appreciate that. So you're saying that the value that I provide is based on me, not on you. That's not true that's not true that's not true the proof in the value that I provide are the shows that you consume.

[55:27] So you think that I have to pick the lock and get you to donate. Let's say you've listened to 100 hours of my content, which costs a fairly staggering amount of money to produce if you count all my education, all the books I've read, the deplatforming, the cost of reputational damage, the research costs. We've got employees, your studio, server, bandwidth costs, you name it, right? So, I mean, I can't even tell you, I probably have, gosh, let's do some rough calcs, right? So I worked, I guess, including the audio book, I probably worked about 50 hours. No, let's be fair, 40 hours a week. Sorry, 40 hours a month. No, more than that, because it was more, let's see, right okay so i have i have 560 hours and you know maybe 200 of jared's hours so 760 hours, in peaceful parenting right 760 hours in peaceful parenting and there's more to go um a guy is who did the cover for just poor has agreed to do the cover for peaceful parenting which is great because i'm one of these annoying guys like i know if it doesn't look quite right but i don't know how to make it right whereas this guy's really good with that so 760 hours right so.

[56:56] That money that i've sunk into that right, and i what i won't do is i won't say my hourly rate right but i'll just put it in my own mind right yeah so um it's it's a lot of money it's a lot of money, and since 14 months of my time 40 hours a month times an hourly rate and you know i was a chief executive in a software company entrepreneur and so on right so hourly rate is not tiny i mean It's not the same exactly, but you know what I mean. You're saying that the value, if you consume 50 or 100 hours or more of my content, then you're saying that the value is something I have to prove because, One-eighth of a year on that book. Oh, you mean like 24 hours? Yeah, that's not a very... I mean, nobody works 24 hours, so that's not a very helpful thing.

[58:06] It would be the equivalent of three and a half or four months straight full-time. I would imagine that you probably had to directly pay for some access to data, so yeah, it's a pricey book. It's a pricey book. It's a good book. I'm glad to have done it and so on. But you see, if you offload, whether I'm providing value onto me that I have to do some dance or make some connection or do something, then you are outsourcing your conscience. And this is not about donations, right? I appreciate them, of course. But what you're doing is you're taking a very aristocratic thing, right? And you're saying, well, I've cost a certain amount of money by consuming his shows, but he's still going to jump through hoops in order for me to donate. And what that's not doing is it's not saying to you, yeah, Jared did have to pay. Well, we all had to pay for some of the research. And I'm not, I'm not, this is not critical. I'm not being critical. I'm not being negative at all. Like this is just really fascinating to me and I'm sort of mulling through it in my head. So I mean this with all positivity and enthusiasm for these questions because they're really interesting.

[59:22] What that means is that you had highly conditional love, right? Highly conditional love, right? So you had parents who were like, well, you have to do X, Y, and Z, or we're just not going to like you. We're not going to give you positive feedback. We're not going to enjoy spending time with you. We're not going to love you and all that, right? You have to do X, Y, or zed right whereas if you're consuming what i do it's your conscience not some hoop that i have to jump through where i make you be reciprocal i i you know what i mean reciprocity is something that's an internal integrity standard it's not something well well you know when he does x y and said, or if he proves this, or, you know, then I'll donate. It's like, no, no, but that's relying on the integrity for me to do something, whereas integrity is you do something. Do you see what I mean? Integrity is your standard. If you consume, you should reciprocate. That's integrity. Whereas you're waiting for me to stimulate your integrity. Does this make sense? I'm so sorry if this is completely retarded, and it might be. It might be. But it shouldn't be up to me to stimulate your conscience, your integrity. Well, when Steph makes me want to donate, then I'll donate, right?

[1:00:48] So, but it should be on your conscience. That's why I said to this guy, it's your conscience, not mine. Like, honestly, guys, there's not much else I can do to give to philosophy. I don't have any reputation left to sell. I don't, you know, my time, my energy, you know, next year it'll be 20 years. 20 years working nose to the grindstone for philosophy. You know, 6,000 shows, and three documentaries, and 12 books, and the History of Philosophers series, and the French Revolution series, the introduction to sadism. We've got close to 150 premium shows. Like, it's a staggering amount of stuff. It's a staggering amount of stuff. And you understand, it is to a large degree for the future, right? So to a large degree for the future. And that's the only safe place for philosophers to live is in the future. Because, you know, it's often too dangerous in the present.

[1:02:04] So if you're waiting for me to trigger your conscience, to trigger your integrity, you've outsourced your self-ownership. Again, I hope that this makes some kind of sense, and I don't mean this in any negative or mean way. Well, you don't pay your barber for messing up your haircut.

[1:02:26] I do. I do. I don't think, if I've had a barber, well, of course, I don't have much of a haircut to mess up, but you probably wouldn't go back. But I don't know that you wouldn't pay your barber for messing up your haircut. You just wouldn't go back. Which would be like somebody who comes and listens to a couple of shows of mine, thinks I'm an idiot or whatever and doesn't come back. Well, I wouldn't expect a donation for that. Don't send me 75 cents because you listen to three shows or three hours of material and think I'm an idiot. Right? That's no good. So that would be not the same thing. That would not be the same thing. It's a close analogy, but not quite right.

[1:03:17] Thanks for exploring this topic. If I found the communist version of free domain and I listened to 50 hours of arguments and found them unconvincing, should I still donate and support to that creator? Based on what you are saying, my initial take is that I probably should donate for the value of helping me explore those arguments, but then I would stop donating as I stop consuming. Yeah, I think that's fair. Because if you listen to 50 hours of arguments, there has to be value in them. Right? There has to be value in them, right?

[1:03:51] So it's like if there are 12 seasons of a show, right? A year. Sorry, 12 shows a season. And you listen, or you watch this show, like it's some show on TV. And you watch for four years, right? So 48 hours, it's 50 hours, right? So if you watch a show and you watch four years worth of that show, you watch 50 hours of that show, is it at all rational to say it has absolutely no value to you? Again, I'm open to the arguments. I really am. I'm wide open to the arguments, right? Yeah, everybody's been to a restaurant and you didn't particularly like your meal, right? I mean, for me, it's like Asian food. Like I roll the dice with Thai food. If I get a great green chicken curry, it's paradise.

[1:04:49] Reciprocity in Relationships

[1:04:50] But a lot of people don't make it very well. I don't just sit there and don't pay. I mean, I probably won't go back, unless my daughter likes it there, which just happened the other night. But I don't like not pay.

[1:05:08] So, if you watch, I mean, can you imagine, somebody says to you, what did you do this weekend, right? Oh, I watched all four seasons of whatever show, right? I watched all four seasons of whatever show. Oh, what did you think? I found no value in it whatsoever. Wouldn't that be kind of incomprehensible? If it was particularly bad i.e literal bugs or fecal matter yes okay fine fine but that's not i mean let's not stretch the analogy too far right because that's not the case with this right it's just a podcast it's not something that can give you um salmonella right so can you imagine It would be like you go out with a woman two hours a week, like Friday night, Saturday night, you hang out with her for an hour each time. So that's six months of time. And someone says, how's it going with this girl that you've been seeing for six months twice a week? I'm completely indifferent to her. She has to prove her value to me. Right? I've watched four seasons of this show and it has to prove its value to me. It already has because you've watched four seasons.

[1:06:36] This is praxeological. Right? By definition, if you've invested 50 hours into a show, it has value to you because that's 50 hours you could have been doing something else but you chose to do this. So clearly it has more value than anything else you could be doing with that time because that's what you did with your time. No, it's fine, Simph. It's a good argument but it's a little too far from the analogy.

[1:07:10] So, imagine, let me sort of, I try not to beat the dead horse, but it's really, really important to understand this, because it's about you and me, right? I have to remember this too. It's about you and me in conscience, right? Right. So if you're dating a girl and she keeps going out with you, right. And she dates you for three months, right. Regular dating, you go out, you neck a little, you go watch movies, you go for walks, we, you go to the art museum and you, you go see plays and you have dinner and right. You two going out. Right.

[1:07:48] And she's oh hey man i'd love to let's go out let's go out friday love to go out friday let's go out friday and and she she doesn't go out with other guys she goes out with you right, and you're going out like i don't know four hours a week right dates friday and saturday right and then after a couple of months she says, I'm still waiting for you to provide value when you because you say well can we get some kind of commitment here no I'm not dating really other people and we've true been going out for a couple of months a couple of times a week but, I'm still waiting for you to provide value, you could just be completely the wrong guy for me, Wouldn't that be kind of strange?

[1:08:44] I think it would be. And wouldn't you feel a little like, well, but you keep going out with me. How can you keep going out with me and then say, I don't provide any value?

[1:09:01] That would be, that would be odd. And so if you're waiting for me to provide value, it would be, I think it would be a little cruel. And look, nobody's being mean to me tonight. I fully accept that. Nobody's being mean to me. And I love this topic. I think it's very interesting and very positive and very important and very helpful, very useful. But to me, it's a form of withholding, right? It's a form of withholding. Hey, man, I'll decide when you've provided enough value. I'm not surrendering to any external standard of reciprocity. I'm not allowing the empiricism of my actions to bully, control, and dictate my behavior. The fact that I've listened for 50 or 100 hours doesn't obligate me. That's on me. I'm going to choose that. I'm going to decide that. And if it's not happening, it's your fault.

[1:09:56] Value and Reciprocity

[1:09:56] Because a little bit, that's what's happening, right? And I'm not saying it's that mean, but I think in its essence, it's like, Steph, I've listened to 50 or 100 hours of what you do, and if I haven't donated, it's because you haven't made me donate. It's like you probably have women who are like, well, we just don't have any chemistry.

[1:10:22] Right? Well, we just don't have any chemistry. I can't make a decision about who to date. It just has to be chemistry right i can't choose the guy based on his virtues i can't choose a guy based on his integrity or his honesty or his morale i can't choose anything based on that, it just has to be magic alchemy stuff he's got to bring out that chemistry in me like you know this thing where women would say you know well this guy if the guys are too nice to me it just gives me the ick. Like, why are you so nice to me? It's because you're desperate, right?

[1:11:05] Somebody says, I want to try every dish at your restaurant, and then I'll decide if I want to pay. Um, not quite that, because this is a long-term thing. I want to come back to your restaurant for three months straight, right? Let's say two months, right? Let's say you've listened to 60 hours. No, that's 90 hours, right? So that's going to a restaurant for dinner for an hour for three months, right? So I'm going to come to your restaurant for three months, eat your food every night, and then I'm going to decide if I'm going to pay. Now, of course, if I've come to your restaurant for three months straight every night and I've eaten your food, at the end of it, do I get to say, you know, you haven't shown me any value? It's like, why have you been coming back and eating the food? Isn't that showing value? Somebody says, are you not kind of setting that standard by providing a three-month trial? Not that it had an impact on me because I went in without doing that. What do you mean by providing a three-month trial? I don't quite understand that. I don't quite understand that.

[1:12:29] That's showing a kind of value that you can get. because, listen, some people are going to donate because they've listened to a bunch of content and they know that reciprocity is what adults do, right? And because it's a conscience thing and it's an integrity thing and it's a self-respect thing, right? Because if you're taking without returning value, it's kind of exploitive and that's not particularly great for your conscience, right? Again, I'm not expecting you to do as much as I do for philosophy, but, you know, the reciprocity is a mark of maturity and adulthood, right?

[1:13:02] Whereas some people, they want to donate, they haven't listened for much, but they really, really want to get the History of Philosophy series, or they really, really want to get History of the French Revolution, which is like nine or 10 hours. They really want to get the Introduction to Sadism. There's some premium podcasts. They want to be part of the live streams that occur on the voice chats. They want to be part of the live streams that are donor only. So they haven't listened for much, but they really want the best. So for them, yeah, a free month, you can try and see if that's enough benefit for you, right? So but here's the thing right so this is god thief so what you're saying is though is you're saying, steph you are responsible for whether i donate no no no i'm not responsible for whether you donate i can remind you and all of that but i'm not responsible for whether you donate and none of this is harsh none of this is mean i'm not trying to finger wag at anyone i think it's a fascinating topic and i really do appreciate you guys bringing this up but it's not up to me whether you donate. It's up to you and your actions, and you and your actions alone. If you consume a significant amount of value, you should reciprocate. But then what you do is you say, well, Steph, you know, you have these free trials, and, you know, you haven't proven your case yet, and, like, all of that is an excuse for you not to be reciprocal.

[1:14:24] Responsibility for Reciprocity

[1:14:25] And I'm, you know, as I'm a big one for no excuses. excuses and again you know if you're broke if you're just starting out enjoy consume i'm totally fine with me totally fine with me but the other thing too is that donation is not just about you right donation is for the people who can't afford right it's a lot of people who are broke students and they can't afford to support and subscribe so those of you who have some reasonable levels of income you're it's a little bit nice isn't it to help for the people who can't afford right so it's not just about you and of course it also creates all of this stuff that goes into the future with a huge wide ripple effect down the road and all this kind of stuff, right?

[1:15:04] So what you're doing is you're saying my integrity is dependent upon Steph's actions. He has to do this, jump through these hoops, prove this, show that, and then I'll donate. No, I don't think that's self ownership.

[1:15:18] Self Ownership and Guilt

[1:15:19] I don't think that's self ownership. And again, I'm not trying to guilt anyone at all. I just think, I think it's a really interesting topic. And I think it's really interesting to, to talk about this stuff. Thank you for the tip over there on Rumble. I appreciate that. Thank you. But that's interesting, right? And, you know, I have this thing where through this month, people who donate get a copy of Peaceful Parenting, the book, right? The e-book and the audio book. And a bunch of people have done that, and I appreciate that. I really do. But it's interesting that these are long-term listeners, because, you know, I assume, right? And not all of them, right? But some of them are long-term listeners. And it's like, okay, so you're long-term listeners. And maybe they've donated before, so I have cross-referenced, but I'm sure some of them are like, oh, a free book. Okay, well, I'll donate a book. Oh, I'll donate for that. And again, I'm glad that they're doing it. I'm glad to get the book out there. But I'm just saying that as a whole, you don't want to outsource your conscience to the actions of others because that gives you excuse for a lack of integrity. And I have to remind myself of this all the time, too. So I'm not preaching from any holy place. But when people say, well, you know, you've got to prove your point or you shouldn't have an introduction because you shouldn't have a month free because that sets the stage for people not donating and so on, it's like, no, it doesn't. No, it doesn't. And it's funny, of course, because.

[1:16:48] Do you, I mean, just for those of you who work in a tipping business or a tipping industry, it's really interesting to me because it's everywhere now. It's ubiquitous. And the reason it's ubiquitous is when you get one of these POS systems, these point of sale systems, it's default set up for donations, for tips, right? It's default set up for tips, right? In fact, somebody on X was showing there was a self checkout, which had a tip request at the end of it. Like literally you scanned and bagged your own items, paid yourself, self no human intervention and then apparently the machine wants a tip right and it's but it's just set up that way right i think it's a fairly good rule as a whole that if i'm ordering while standing up uh i mean i'll still tip usually i'll still tip because i was a waiter and it's just a soft spot that i have but when i was a waiter just about everyone tipped for me carrying food over, and you know 15 right it's pretty good pretty good money this is all back when people did cash and coins so when i was a waiter at pizza i had this green apron and i would get all the tips off the table right or you take the money you get the change from the cashier that would be your tip right 100 bucks they give you 115 and you get the 15 bucks and sometimes it would be coins if it was a smaller amount and so by the end of the night i'm like i'm like this i sound like this knight in full chain mail armature, like the T-60 or whatever, right? Because I'm just rolling around with like these giant balls of change.

[1:18:18] On my thighs, right? But, so what's interesting to me is that when all I did was carry people food, just about everybody donated. But then when I'm actually working to save the world through the most powerful philosophy I think that's ever been around, very few people donate. So bring food, donations. Bring truth reason and virtue maybe after you jump through some hoops anyway so enough of that i just thought it was a very interesting topic and again i'm not trying to guilt anyone i'm just saying this is i think the philosophical approach of these kinds of things that i think i think is important and helpful and useful so i'm happy to move on to whatever topics you like, unless there are any kind of criticisms in which case i'll cry and rail and rage against you, Carl Fuentes oh Nick Fuentes this is part of the agenda thing I was talking about before I'm off politics not a thing, he's back on X isn't he is he back on X I think he is.

[1:19:31] So let me ask you this question. Let me ask you this deep philosophical question. And with a father is out on the boat, riding the water, riding the wave on the sea. That's a great song, Mercy Street by Peter Gabriel. Really hypnotic symbols in the back, or bells. Anyway, and there's a lovely bit where they do it. He does it with his band acapella at the beginning. Beautiful. All of the buildings and all of the cars were once just a dream in somebody's head. It's kind of a trite observation, but it is important. Everywhere you look, everything that's around you is frozen thought. This microphone is frozen thought. My glasses are frozen thought. I also be designed and conceived of and executed. It's all frozen thought. Everywhere you live is in the mind and imagination of other people made flesh. Made real, made tangible, made material. It's all thought to things. You live in the frozen thoughts of other people.

[1:20:34] So, if you're out there on the water and you have a suitcase, why must I be a man in a suitcase? You're out there in the water, you're in a rowboat, and you have a suitcase. And you throw the suitcase overboard. board, does the water level go up or down or stay the same? You're in a rowboat, you've got a suitcase and you throw your suitcase into the water. Does the water go up or down or stay the same?

[1:21:15] I'm not going to trick you. I'm not going to trick you. Well, little did you know a penguin grabbed it before it hit the water and flew off. It goes into the water. Does it go up or down or I'll stay the same. You say it stays the same? That was my first impulse. It could be the right impulse, but that wasn't my second impulse.

[1:21:38] Does the suitcase sink? I'm not sure that matters, fundamentally. Mentally i'll tell you the way i reasoned it out in my mind right so the suitcase in the boat the boat is displacing the water which raises the level right right like you push a bucket into you push an empty bucket or a full bucket i guess for that matter into a bath the bath level rises right so when you take the bucket out of a bath i always i forget the water forget the lake like like the big body of water, because it's too big for my little brain to handle. So what I do is I think it's a little bathtub, right?

[1:22:16] So if you take the bucket out of the bathtub, then the water level of the bathtub goes down, because it's got to fill in the hole left by the bucket. So when the suitcase is in the boat, the boat is pressing down on the water, which raises the level of water. When you take the suitcase and throw it out, the boat level goes up, which lowers the water, but then the suitcase goes into the water, which raises it again. But I think there's a difference. happy to hear otherwise so it doesn't really matter how heavy the suitcase is because in the when the suitcase is in the boat it's only displacing based upon weight but when the suitcase goes into the water it's displacing based upon weight and shape in other words when the, suitcase is in the boat the shape of the suitcase is not displacing the water only its weight but But when the suitcase goes into the water, it's the weight of the suitcase that displaces and the shape.

[1:23:19] So, I think it does raise the water a tiny bit. And it really doesn't, like, if it's very heavy, it raises it more. But if it's, let's say it's full of feathers, right, well, then it's displacing the boat very little. And when it goes out, then the boat goes up a little. But, and let's say it only sinks a little, then it's still got the weight, but it's also got the shape. If that makes sense. And I think, like, you can say, of course, when the boat goes down a little bit more, the hull is displacing the water. But I think with the four squares and so on, I think. Now, if the suitcase floats, it displaces the same volume as it did in the boat. I don't think it does. I could be wrong. I'm not an engineer or a physicist, but I don't think it does. Is the suitcase waterproof? Again, I don't think that matters. I don't think that matters. Because the suitcase is going to be displacing the water based upon volume and weight, whereas in the boat it's mostly just weight.

[1:24:13] The level goes down if the suitcase sinks. No, I don't think that's true because then you have all four sides plus the weight displacing the water. Now, of course, if you think that the suitcase is super heavy, then it's going to displace more of the boat. So the boat volume displaces because more of the boat is pressing into the water. It raises the water level. Anyway, so I just, I think it's, I don't know what the actual answer is, but I just thought it was a very interesting question. Somebody, was it you, Jared? Somebody put a chat GPT-4 thing. Can you, uh...

[1:24:50] Can you give me that? Because I can't remember where that went.

[1:24:57] But if you could give me that chat GPT-4 answer, maybe that's right, maybe that's wrong. I think it's pretty reliable. But yeah, I think in general it stays the same, but I think there could be some slight variations based upon because of the volume. Because you're adding the volume of the suitcase, but when the suitcase is on the boat, then there's more volume of the boat pressing down in the water. So I don't know how that plays out. It's mostly the same, I think. But I think there's a little bit more displacement with the suitcase in the water, which I thought was interesting.

[1:25:32] Deep Philosophical Questions

[1:25:33] All right. So we'll wait for that. And let me ask you this. Do you deal with... Do another couple of minutes here. I want to make sure I have to save my voice for something tomorrow. But, oh, wait, wait. We've got something coming in here in the Turbo free domain chat. The turbo, sideways, free domain chat.

[1:25:55] Oh, was it in locals? Okay, well, let me see if I can dig that up, because I think then Jared did answer that. I think, I think he did. I think he did. All right, let me see. And I also do want to thank everyone who's given me the feedback on the peaceful parenting, And, of course, for a lot of people, the peaceful parenting is painful because it brings up memories and also it brings up criticisms of their own parents, so it's a really searing book. It's a really searing book to get through.

[1:26:34] Oh, did I not... I thought I posted this on... Oh, I think I posted it on I Need an Answer. I need to know. I need to know. Oh yes, I need an answer. Now, I can't believe everybody fell into this trap, right? So there were more people who gave me feedback on this suitcase question than originally gave me feedback for many months on peaceful parenting, which was going to provoke a lecture, but then I decided to be more humane. All right, so let's see here.

[1:27:15] Oh no i don't see it there so somebody says it stays the same mass displaces an equal volume of water regardless of whether the mass is in or out of the boat more pragmatic answer is noting that you asked in general is that in the lake or river or see the volume of the suitcase would be immeasurably small so you could never detect an impact even if there was one no i get that but it's a theoretical right, this is easy versus why don't you give me feedback yeah quite right Right. Quite right. All right. Oh, man. Is it just me, or is this hot? Is it hot in here, or is it just me? A video exploring the sinking case. Oh, that's interesting. Oh, was it in the telegram after your chat? Okay, let's see here.

[1:28:10] My daughter is singing. I can hear it through the vents. Oh, beautiful. She actually sings very nicely. Freedom in chat okay let's see here yeah that was quite a heading it was quite a heading RFK Jr. Says worm ate part of his brain and then died inside his head to which my daughter said of starvation but let's see here, somebody did a big suitcase thing.

[1:28:52] The suitcase floats versus sinks. Oh, somebody deleted that message. Maybe it's gone. Oh, oh, oh, here's the chat GPT, is this the one? Ah, yes, chat with GPT, all right. When you toss a suitcase overboard from a boat, the water level will actually lower. Here's why. One, while in the boat, when the suitcase is in the boat, it adds to the total weight of the boat. According to Archimedes' principle, the boat, including the suitcase, must displace a volume of water equal to the total weight of the boat and its contents, including the suitcase, in order to float. After throwing the suitcase overboard, when you throw the suitcase into the water, it displaces water equal to its own volume. Since the density of the suitcase is likely greater than water, considering it sinks, it displaces less water by volume compared to when it was in the boat, contributing to the boat's overall weight. Is that right? Comparison of water displacement. When the suitcase was in the boat, the boat needed to displace an additional amount of water equivalent to the weight of the suitcase. Very true. However, when the suitcase is thrown overboard, it only displaces water equivalent to its volume.

[1:30:02] Ah, interesting. Okay. No, but it also displaces it relative to its weight, because if it's full of feathers, it displaces less water than if it's full of bricks. So I don't think that's accurate. Since the weight of the suitcase in water is typically more than the volume of water it would displace if submerged, the overall displacement of water is less than when the suitcase is in the water than when it's in the boat. Therefore, the net effect is that throwing the suitcase overboard reduces the total displacement of water. No, I don't think that's accurate. Again, I'm no physicist and could be totally right. But since the weight of the suitcase in water is typically more than the volume of water it would displace if submerged, but it is submerged to some degree. It's not floating above the water, right? So in order for it to impact the water, the suitcase has weight and has to be submerged. So you can't remove that from the equation. It's not floating above and also impacted the water. That's a contradiction. So, all right.

[1:30:56] Engagement test. um we are going to work on a peaceful parenting ai that is going to be available to everyone, yeah the um we're going to work on that, all right um will you post your peaceful parenting summary somewhere public so it can be shared outside of locals yeah the whole thing's going public at some point yeah for sure relatively soon uh so if you go to um if you go to uh let me just double check that i really should know this sorry james uh if you go to.

[1:31:49] If you go to, you can see, yes, you can see all the cool stuff. All the cool stuff that's going on. And one of the things you get is StephBot AI, which has been trained on all of my books that are nonfiction. It's been trained on all of my articles, and it's been trained on a fairly significant number of podcast transcriptions. So it's really, really close to me. And and if english doesn't happen to be your first language and i really really do appreciate those who are listening to me when it's not their first language but the steph bot ai has like 70 different languages you can ask it in whatever language you want it will reply in that language, so it's really really cool as far as that goes so and you can ask it all the questions you want about peaceful parenting but we are going to create this is sort of one of the projects we have ongoing, we are going to create an AI specifically for peaceful parenting.

[1:32:57] And then you can ask just about any questions to prove what's the scientific data behind, ACEs, and you can get those kinds of answers without having to borrow through all the 800 pages or whatever it is of the book. So we are definitely working on that and that's I think a pretty big project and that's going to be open that's going to be I mean we'll have a bit of a testing period to make sure you can't tell it to you know sell newborns into, slavery but we are definitely going to be working on that so.

[1:33:35] Uh, this video just reminded me of how the physics girl... Hey, is there still Prax girl? I mean, like once every year or two, I think of Prax girl. Is she still around? Let me have a look. I did a show with her many, many years ago. All right. Prax girl. She was a very pretty girl who was talking about Austrian economics. Is she still around? Oh, looks like she is. But I don't know. When did she last post? Two years ago. Yes.

[1:34:15] Oh, yeah. 318 views, 396 views, and 9.1k views. But good. I'll put the link here so you can check her out. She was fun. she was fun and they certainly did what 12 years ago 13 years ago, it doesn't look like there's me 12 years ago I wonder whatever happened to her she was very smart and a lot of fun but it looks like she has, gone the way of the dodo although she had 10 years your abusive relationship with daddy state yeah 373 views anyway I don't think I'm on here, no Now, they may have scrubbed me for various reasons. So anyway, here's the link. It was a good show. All right, let's see here.

[1:35:15] All right, some questions, comments. Yeah, do you deal with any chronic pain? I was just reading like up to half of Americans deal with chronic pain, and a quarter of them have been dealing with it for 13 years or more. Steph, I think you're now doing even better work than in your heyday on YouTube. That is very telling. Well, thank you. I appreciate it. I'm constantly astonished at what I'm coming up with. I just did this whole argument about how atheists are more superstitious than Christians. We will be adding the other donut perks to Yeah, go check out You can see all the cool stuff that you get. I mean, five bucks a month. Seriously. I already use your Steph bot when I'm having difficulty understanding something, and it's pretty accurate. Yeah, I think it is. I think it is.

[1:36:06] I think it is. Any other tips tonight, just out of curiosity? Maybe mildly related to the long talk about conscience and integrity. I mean, you know, I had to get a haircut today, man.

[1:36:24] It's funny, you know, you ever have. So I got a haircut today, and I was chatting with my hairdresser.

[1:36:30] Conversations on Bill Gates and Mark Zuckerberg

[1:36:30] And I don't obviously have any kind of regular thing, but wherever I happen to be, it's not like i've got a like just number two buzz it's pretty easy and please do the ears right can't do the forehead it's nothing to do on the forehead but because i'm over 50 please weed whack the ears a little that'd be excellent like the flattest ears known to man you know yeah because these people it's like they can get interstellar fm with their ears there was a guy on um sherlock about that anyway um so you ever have this thing where you're kind of feeling each other out for original thought right so i've you know we were chatting at this that and the other and i sort of I won't get into the details of the conversation, but it ended up being quite a lot about Bill Gates buying up the farmland and them wanting to not be farmers and hating cows and all this kind of stuff, right? And Mark Zuckerberg, who apparently is quite concerned about climate change and has a $300 million mega yacht that can land a plane and has four giant diesel engines. It's hilarious, right? I mean, it's so in your face, right? Right. And, um, so, uh, you know, you have this thing where you're just kind of feeling someone out, like, okay, how far can we go here?

[1:37:36] Right. How, how can we, uh, how far can we go? Yeah. The angel bot, I think, I think we still want to call it peaceful parenting bot because we want to brand that. But I think that the prompt can say angel bot or something like that. Yeah. Cause they're like the angels from the present, but I think that's too, um, it's intro to philosophy So you put in a StaffBot AI? Yes. Yes, it is. We'll donate a large chunk soon myself. I appreciate that. And of course, if you're holding some crypto, it's very gratefully accepted as well. There as well. So that's very nice.

[1:38:05] Uh agreed your best work is consistently what is being posted tomorrow try to buy coins locals website purchase button grayed out where else can we give tips yeah free slash donate very much appreciated and i you know i'll tell you this i i'll give you guys a gift that will take your soul i will give you guys a gift that will take your soul i think i'll do that tomorrow I had a call-in with a guy whose girlfriend, he was with this woman for a long time, and she cheated on him within a couple of months of getting married. Man, it was rough. And you can sort of get a sense of what that's like when I release the show. But we did a role play that was 27 minutes long that was by far the most brutal role play I have ever experienced in the show.

[1:39:13] Because he was role-playing his wife and oh my god like I I don't think I've ever gone through that many flashes of emotions and colors i'm glad i didn't have the video on me it looked like a disco light uh thank you uh kev kevin kev kev i appreciate that but yeah i mean it was unbelievable and i'll put this out for donors tomorrow but and i'll put a warning like if you've ever been around dysfunctional people and in particular a really dysfunctional girlfriend, i mean it's funny there was a guy i can't remember if it's the same guy.

[1:39:52] But I was talking to a caller recently whose relationship's on the line and, And I sort of asked him about was he attracted to his girlfriend in particular because of her looks. And he's like, no, we're both kind of sixes, sevens kind of thing, right? Anyway, so he played all of the insights that I had to his girlfriend. And she ended up storming out because he referred to her as a six or a seven. That was it, as far as she could get. I'm like, oh, man, talk about missing the forest for the trees, right? Rough. Like the dog sat when it, what did the dog say when it sat on sandpaper? All right any other last comments or questions or issues um uh getting into your books and i enjoy sci-fi and fantasy so i started listening to the future it's funny because you started listening to the future in the present but you will listen to the present in the future all right, uh do you remember that emergency call in with the bride who cheated on her fiance on her bachelorette party and he flew home what happened to him curious yeah yeah i'm i'm curious too i am curious but yellow Hello. Um.

[1:41:04] But I'm happy. Yes. I mean, at some point we'll organize a, um, reunion like for listeners. We'll just do a whole, I'll do like a half day and anybody who's had call in before I can call them, give us an update. Uh, but I'm sorry, Evan, thank you for the tip. I forgot to mention it. Thank you for the tip. I appreciate that. I do. I do. I do. I do. And remember if you tip, right, uh, if you tip, uh, this month, man, totally free buka buka buka, kombucha kombucha it's my new drug kombucha and let me just post this here.

[1:41:43] What about the column of the guy who was an illegal in dating the American woman? Always wondering. LOL. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you can go to slash testimonial for a lot of people's like and how it's impacted their, uh, it's a slash donate you. There's a testimonials thing, which we're going to move more to the main page. Do we ever get that done? I can't remember if we did or not, but we're going to move that to the main page so people can get a sense of just how much the show I've sort of given up collecting them. but I have, for a year or two, I was collecting the testimonials I was getting. And it's just amazing. So, I mean, that just gives you the fuel to overcome almost every obstacle. That just gives you the fuel to overcome almost every obstacle. And that's beautiful. It's just beautiful. It's all too beautiful. All right. Any other last comments, questions?

[1:42:35] Emotional Roleplay and Relationship Dynamics

[1:42:35] It's all good. I tip hundreds. It's all for good. you deserve it Evan that is heroic and massively appreciated thank you thank you so much tanky tanky tanky I appreciate it, more than words really look forward to that oh yeah that would be a fun show we'll have to sort of arrange it it would be kind of fun you know it would be sort of in my dreams it would be like fun to rent out a whole convention center and have a reunion of callers and we give them tags with their actual show numbers on them and come back hey how's things going going.

[1:43:07] That would be really cool. Did a guy get arrested and called him back in the day? I have a vague memory. Yes, there was a call where the guy was talking about all of the challenges in his life and there was a ding dong and bro got arrested during the course of the show and his girlfriend took over.

[1:43:33] That was something. And I still get some pretty jaw-dropping conversations. A lot of them go into the donor section because they're just a little too wild and too easy to misinterpret for the general population. So the spiciest call-ins, without a doubt, and really, honestly, I don't mean to oversell, but some of the best call-ins, they are in the premium section. Arrested for what? What? Well, do you ever have dreams about call-ins? I'm sure I have, but I can't remember any at the moment. Surprised they rang the doorbell. Well, I think in general they do ring the doorbell. Um, I think in general they still do. Rough dad joke? Yes, I'm afraid it was. I'm absolutely afraid it totally was a dad joke. Not gonna lie, I'm not gonna hide it. Uh, let's see here.

[1:44:30] Yeah, there's this new flex going on on social media, which is people complaining about babies crying. People complaining about babies crying. That's so sad. I saw this thread too. If you sleep less than seven hours, you're making a gigantic mistake. So total testosterone and total sleep time is dose dependent, right? So people who sleep like four and a half hours are getting 250 testosterone.

[1:44:56] The Unfortunate Private Investigator Incident

[1:44:56] People who are eight are like 600 and it goes, you know, goes up, goes up in the line. So get your sleep, get your sleep, friends.

[1:45:12] Yeah, this woman says all the girls who are being 20 right now, being absolute whores in the club in 10 years, they're going to be 30 trying to settle down and realize that all the good guys are taken. They had a complaint that they were run through their whole life. But while they were partying for the past 10 years, all the good girls got cuffed by the good guys. And so now when they look at all the men that are options, they're going to be competing with the now 20-year-old good girls and be stuck. Why? Because all the good guys are gone. You missed your chance being an effing whore witch. I thought that was kind of funny. Yeah, AstraZeneca vaccine has been withdrawn worldwide. That's really something. That's really something. That's really something. You know, philosophy always means being sorry that you're right.

[1:46:07] Philosophy always means being sorry that you're right. this i don't know if this is true or not so if somebody says because i i grew up somebody says my parents told me eating carrots was good for my eyes in the 1960s i only lately discovered, that was 1940 british disinformation to cover up why the raf was winning the battle of britain raf pilots ate carrots to improve their eyesight actually it was a secret called radar did you know all that. I knew about the spinach thing, that the benefits of spinach was because of a typo. It took forever to get fixed. But, yeah. I love this. A friend of mine is an avid bicyclist and I sent him this meme. Pedestrians, I have to be careful not to get hit by a car. Drivers, I have to be careful not to hit anyone with my car. Cyclists, and then there's just a picture of the Japanese kamikaze pilots from World War II and it's like, oh my god. That's wild. That's wild. You can literally spend the rest of your life and never finish watching women complain about prices in Canada. Isn't that something? Isn't that something?

[1:47:29] So, a girlfriend hired a private investigator on her boyfriend because she thinks he's cheating just to find out that he's getting food and watching a movie by himself. So he's just in a restaurant watching a movie on his phone because that's how little peace and quiet he has at home. Man, you have to, have to, have to.

[1:47:52] Be peaceful, positive and fun and engaging and enjoyable with the people you live with. Oh my gosh. You have to, have to, have to have that man. If you can't bring peace and joy to the people around you, your relationships will not last. Um, there's also, is it a TikTok filter that says it shows you what you look like as a liberal. It's absolutely hilarious. I think the red-headed libertarian went and did it too. And it shows you how you look as a liberal.

[1:48:20] Humor and Social Media Filters

[1:48:20] It's truly staggering just how much it makes people look somewhat different. Somewhat different. Oh, this is nasty. This is from Pearly Things, H. Pearl Davis. One-seventh of the world population has been aborted in the last 50 years. Owen Benjamin was really ragging on boomers saying about how they aborted the third of they aborted a third of Gen X aborted a third of Gen X, um oh yeah the Lawrence Southern article uh there's another another meme that I thought was funny sorry I just describe it for the audio me kills a huge mouse with a baseball bat everyone else at Disneyland ah.

[1:49:11] Very funny. This is from Carnival Aurelius. In 1917, the USDA recommended men eat bread, butter, meat, sugar, fruits, greens, poultry, fish, eggs, cheese, and milk, and almost nobody was obese. Today, we're told to avoid bread, butter, meat, sugar, cheese, and milk, and 40% of people are obese. It's time to wake up. I have no answers about nutrition. I just thought that was very interesting. I have no answers about nutrition. Have you ever seen the movie Ordinary People? It's a movie I haven't seen in forever and ever, amen, but I do remember it being quite powerful. And Mary Tyler Moore was great, really playing against time.

[1:49:56] All right, so let me just go back and check your comments, psych cultists. All right, so let's see here. Show must go on. I'm looking for a man in finance. I'm looking for a man who's six foot four. I'm looking for a man with blue eyes. I'm looking for a man in finance. Oh my gosh, just horrendous. He got arrested for bail violation, didn't show up for court. Yeah, I think that was the guy. Antidatalism propaganda. It's, man, it's rough. Almost 40% of Chinese couples don't have kids and don't plan to. Dinks, right? Double income, no kids. Man, it's rough. I'm looking for a man in finance. Yeah.

[1:50:50] The show that you get for filling out the feedback form was great. Yeah, actually, Jared, if you could post the feedback for me, that'd be great. I saw a small section of a recent Fresh and Fit show, and one of the girls on the panel said this generation is out of control because parents aren't whooping their kids anymore. So tiring and predictable. Yeah. I remember a girl in high school that spent a solid year eating carrots trying to save her eyesight from needing glasses. It did not work, of course. Yeah, well, most of the girls eating carrots in my high school were trying to get boyfriends. But, you know, different time.

[1:51:22] High School Carrot-Eating Memories

[1:51:23] Different time. Leaves and all. Cyclists are like a cult of people that's only unifying tension. Tenant is to annoy people. They even have a cult uniform that they wear. That's pretty funny.

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